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Matchthread NTMR vs Disguised | Overwatch Champions Series 2026 - NA Stage 3 - Regular Season | Post-Match Discussion Spoiler

Overwatch Champions Series 2026 - NA Stage 3 - Regular Season


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NTMR 3-0 Disguised
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u/BrinksTrucc 1d ago

DSG USED 5 ULTS IN ONE FIGHT...AND LOST THAT FIGHT

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u/The_Big_Fart_ Team Liquid — 1d ago

Didn't know they rehired Capitology

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u/Sio_V_Reddit 1d ago

Ult order was fucked, no idea why Kiwii used emp first instead of using it to counter Doc ult.

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u/chrrybmb64 1d ago

PK and Smurf were having a feed-off on map 3 and Smurf won

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u/Sio_V_Reddit 1d ago

Legit PGE and Ryan were doing the lords work every fight cause Smurf was dead first EVERY TIME

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u/Ok_String_8070 1d ago

ping is so hard to time engages.

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u/Birdfallen 1d ago

From the post map interview this might be a coach/org gap. Also DSG not managing to fly out Smurf till after their season is over while NTMR got a whole bootcamp is hilarious

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u/Dependent-Two7571 1d ago

Ntmr notoriously great org to be apart of

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u/Birdfallen 1d ago

Ntmr is also the org that has consistently produced crazy results for their resources?

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u/Dependent-Two7571 1d ago

Irrelevant to my statement

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Lukensz Alarm — 1d ago

Let's see if they get paid properly this time

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Dependent-Two7571 1d ago

No they deserved to be partnered because they actually paid their players

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u/zVPR 1d ago

quite unfathomable that every stage dsg somehow lose a series with a heartbreaking Runasapi choke

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u/strikingtwelve 1d ago

How do they lose to the worst team in NA bro... Like how

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u/Birdfallen 1d ago

Because NTMR is (now) actually a well managed org that can get their players in a bootcamp BEFORE theyre out of playoff contention

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u/Alternative-Film-231 1d ago

Because DSG high key is the worst team in NA right now

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u/TenZBestPlayer 1d ago

dsg should never play runasapi bro

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u/mousa4348 1d ago

They're trolling yo 5 ults and a lead and you lose????

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u/NegativesPositives 1d ago

I don’t even fuck with DSG that much but this is just sad.

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u/Nerf_-_- 1d ago

i would say they have next but man i have no words for this team

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u/EmilyOoi 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think people need to realise how bad Scyle is playing in all the games and matches so far.
If u compare his doc ults to enemy doc ults in ANY match, he gets little to no dmg value, only overhealth, whereas most enemy doc ults chunks down half of DSG to half.
Not only that, specifically on the runasapi game, there was an engage where the cam was on his POV and he was healing kiwi walking to a health pack instead of smurf that was engaging (causing smurf to get demech'd) - terrible healing priority
There were moments on paraiso as well where he simply could have flew up to survive a dive (cam is on his pov and he did have infuse charge) but he just did a normal dash and died... like seriously what is he doing?
And before people say "PGE has X amount of deaths", have u ever considered that this is because he is not being properly supported by scyle? If u watch closely, everytime PGE survives a dive, it is because of kiwi either dragging him out on cat, or using cyberspace on him. Basically never has he gotten like a double infuse shot for example to be saved. I think this is proven even more on runasapi where PGE was actually getting kills, opening picks even, but was there a single doc ult that won a fight? He literally ulted AFTER smurf got demeched? His first ult was almost FIVE minutes into the game...
I think I've said enough, I really don't get why and how he is still on the team, this is just sad.

Edit: Just went back to rewatch. Scyle didn't even get his ult on lighthouse?? Scyle's ult on ilios well at 70%, what was that? Literally 0 dmg, fight was already won, imagine if they had it the fight after.
Also I see a lot of people blaming smurf. This goes back to my point on supporting PGE, maybe... just maybe smurf wasn't being properly cared for by scyle? Like first 2 maps kiwi was on cat and could help smurf more, and smurf played better (in comparison to the third map). On the third map, kiwi was on sombra, and helping dps a lot more (Ryan and PGE played A LOT better on third map) and smurf played worse because he only had scyle. Maybe... just maybe scyle is lacking...

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u/SaintFrito Defiant / Go Blue! — 1d ago

Never let DSG pick Runisapi again, that’s the 2nd major lead blown on that map by them. Nice win for NTMR though, that makes their match vs Kafe tomorrow have more stakes than I expected it to have

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u/topatoman_lite cattle enjoyer — 1d ago

Smurf threw map 3 OT so hard

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u/dokdodokdo 1d ago

Ngl painkiller walked all over dsg it was kinda embarrassing

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u/Doctor_Dad_Enraged 1d ago

Did scyle ever had a single good ult in the entire series?

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u/DaftConfusednScared 1d ago

3-0 as we all predicted.

Why did my Smurf look so bad ;;;;; lost map one for DSG and was a huge problem on map 3, map 2 was also kinda yikes. Strange match from him.

PGE maintains his trend this season of not being able to play hybrid, map 3 he looked really good.

Map 3 was maybe a macro issue and like idk what happened there they kept rushing overtime fights like they were the ones who were desperate and then when they actually were desperate it was too late.

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u/primarymuscle2354 1d ago

They had 5 ults not being able to get many kills off the emp was crazy no excuse to lose that.

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u/DaftConfusednScared 1d ago

I mean no excuse, but what I’m saying is that HAD to be an issue of rushing the fight or something. They had 50 meters to work with to get value and they acted like the already turned corner with Smurf behind and 90% purple for some reason was the time to use everything

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u/primarymuscle2354 1d ago

They probably thought they could overwhelm them with ult advantage, and emp by itself is usually a fight win, but they didn’t get much follow up on the emp despite committing everything so it was worst case scenario.

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u/DaftConfusednScared 1d ago

Ya, they took the fight at just the worst place I think. They were fighting up to the bot, if they just let them reach checkpoint they get a better emp, a better doc ult that NTMR has to match and you can hold EMP to cancel, and a better OC angle for PGE, and if they lose that fight I think just boil them idk

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u/ChriseFTW 1d ago

He’s definitely expecting value to happen and it just… Doesn’t. Still getting used to having a team with no hands lol

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u/Bobi_27 heesang glazer — 1d ago

generational crumple at the end

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u/primarymuscle2354 1d ago

It happened again… another insane push choke by DSG they had 5 ults only got 1 kill didn’t capitalize off a good emp from Kiwii just an unbelievable fumble. Really disappointing result from a team who looked genuinely good last week beating a top 4 team in NA historically they looked reinvegerated with additions of Smurf, Ryan, and now they lose to players they drop like Rokit, Lep who got insane hate on their team in previous stages, now this seems like a stage ending loss bc idk how they bounce back from a loss like that they needed to win this game to avoid relegation.

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u/Sio_V_Reddit 1d ago

Ok so jokes aside, yeah DSG still sucks and are probably not making finals. I just want them to stay in the esport, its better to have teams like this for storylines and comebacks and stuff.

That said people aren't ready to hear this, but a lot of that was Smurfs fault. Ridiculous pushes on Illios second and third, a really bad Runisapi and that ending....like I hate to say it but he was not good.

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u/BrinksTrucc 1d ago

Map 3 was definitely on him. Him taking that remech damage pretty much sealed the deal. The panic Mauga wasn't a good idea either

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u/Sio_V_Reddit 1d ago

PGE and Ryan had to go crazy every fight cause Smurf was dead first so often, even in fights they won. Like what happened, he looked good last week.

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u/jowelost 1d ago

That last jab on de-mech’d painkiller on Runasapi high-key lost them the map. PK just re-upped in his face and NTMR cleaned him up and got a free 50m out of it in OT

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u/thatboijash 1d ago

How has it happened twice...

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u/DaynosTV 1d ago

just blow it up bro. could get all the zeta players and somehow this team would still be ass

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u/hoennevan 1d ago

This is the funniest outcome

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u/yeeymyknees 1d ago

lowk this was smurfs fault

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u/DaftConfusednScared 1d ago

I don’t even think lowk, I have been Smurf’s strongest soldier for 6 years at this point, but he threw map one and threw map three

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u/Sio_V_Reddit 1d ago

"lowk" two maps were definitively his fault lets be real

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u/RenlyThornt 1d ago

Yo why is Smurf inting

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u/idrkbrotbh 1d ago

So much for dsg making playoffs

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u/zetbotz 1d ago

The Ship of Feeseus

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u/Botronic_Reddit GOATs is Peak Overwatch — 1d ago

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u/jowelost 1d ago

Smurf needs a better Dmon, PK just walked all over him all 3 games

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u/quequen 1d ago

Dreams dead and everyone's fired. Very sad.

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u/thepandaemos 1d ago

Everybody’s doubting, but I still think they can come back

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u/MedicinePractical738 1d ago

DSG feels like watching the ultimates. They have a good roster, but there's a huge disconnect between players.

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u/Delmagor 1d ago

They have a terrible backline, a very irregular hitscan dps, a tank who still needs time to get back to form after two years without playing (and on high ping + has to play officials late at night) and a decent flex dps. The roster is not terrible on paper, but it's not good either. They really need a big upgrade on supports because Scyle had two decent series in the entire year and Kiwii is really meh.

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u/squishykkura 1d ago

Isn’t it worse than late night, it’s like 3-4 in the morning? Which is like the worst possible time

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u/Equivalent_Pitch9271 1d ago

Toast just gotta leave esports man. DSGs brand is built on losing every league hilariously.

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u/BeardedsChurch 1d ago

he said that Overwatch was one of the only games in the Disguised org where they were turning a profit

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u/Sio_V_Reddit 1d ago

Skin sales going crazy, good to hear that cause that means they probably staying.

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u/Sio_V_Reddit 1d ago

^ DO NOT listen to this guy. We need teams that lose to stay. Imagine SHD or Dallas left the league cause they sucked shit and we never got their redemption arcs? How much worse off would we be?

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u/Equivalent_Pitch9271 1d ago

Ive been waiting on DSG to have a redemption arc for years

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u/Sio_V_Reddit 1d ago

They haven't been in OW for even a year

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u/Equivalent_Pitch9271 1d ago

DSG has been in esports for many years. My original comment was about DSG as a whole

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u/Fenixmaian7 Mexico — 1d ago

Wow comparing SHD/Dallas to DSG. wow just wow.

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u/Sio_V_Reddit 1d ago

You’re right, DSG has actually won games unlike early SHD.

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u/Birdfallen 1d ago

Both of these teams were well managed tho. DSG, well...

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u/Sio_V_Reddit 1d ago

Calling DALLAS FUEL well managed when they had people on the bench openly not playing the game and training for their Valorant careers...

Their management was arguably worse than DSG.

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u/Splaram #DSGWin — 1d ago

Wait which players were these?

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u/Sio_V_Reddit 1d ago

Unkoe, AKM, Trill, and Zacharee.

Most notably Unkoe literally posted on Twitter that he played overwatch for the first time in months to say Hog wasn’t meta.

During the infamous season 3 Hog meta.

At the very least Zach asked to leave the team.

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u/TangerineBroad4604 1d ago

I played a little bit of ow recently for "FUN" :) I come back and the meta in ranked is Roadhog / Zarya. You guys still don't understand the game or what. Fcking Roadhog could fly, it wouldn't be the meta, use your brain, you can counter this sht with 10 different compositions.

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u/Sio_V_Reddit 1d ago

Fucking insane that he just…admitted to not understanding the meta or playing the game. And still had a job.

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u/TangerineBroad4604 1d ago

Dallas vs Fuel was a meme for like 3 seasons because of how badly managed they were, esp S1/2

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u/chrrybmb64 1d ago

This whole season I thought Rokit was washed, but now I realize he was just playing for DSG.

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u/Far_Display7308 1d ago

They put his ass on sym LMAO

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u/Crackborn POGGERS — 1d ago

Money talks. 

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u/Uffffffffffff8372738 1d ago

He’s not making money let’s be so for real

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u/FloorRound7136 23h ago

DSG is leaving the fuck outta overwatch once the season is over

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u/LampyV2 1d ago

Should have signed Infekted 😠

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u/Birdfallen 1d ago

Nah Smurf is korean and he won with Proper and Stalker during double fdps meta so he must be better

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u/aPiCase Stalk3r — 1d ago

This makes me sad, I was really hopeful for them with Smurf but I guess my hope was misplaced.

They are essentially screwed with this loss unless SSG toss another game which seems unlikely now that Sombra is out of the meta.

I just wanted Smurf to win bro 😓

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u/Far_Display7308 1d ago

DSG lucky af they could Sombra cheese one series win.

Now that’s it’s bad they look dogshit

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u/Flow09 1d ago

Lol. Lmfao, even

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u/Swimming-Drag-6492 Pge/SugarBron YAOI Shipper :) — 1d ago

Somebody shoot me, scyle, the first two pge maps, smurf on dmon, and their ultimate roster in the head 17 times

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u/r3vocrash22 1d ago

I hate to say it but I wouldn't be surprised if pge is either dropped or leaves, I feel so bad for him, not because of his team or anything else, I can just see it happening

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u/whatsssssssss 1d ago

idk why pge would get dropped

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u/crowdthepoet 1d ago

#retirepge

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u/jowelost 1d ago edited 1d ago

He played well enough on Ilios to where after R1 the strat became “drop Dmon on his head every time they walk up”. Game 2 was just bad, his bastion has no hands. Game 3 him and Ryan were genuinely the only DSG players trying to win, support ults were just terrible and Smurf was hard gapped on Dmon every game.

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u/Far_Display7308 1d ago

Bro rokit on ntmr

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u/jowelost 1d ago

Whooooops I meant Ryan, these damn Fdps and their R names

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u/Fenixmaian7 Mexico — 1d ago

He thinks its stage 2 still.

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u/Birdfallen 1d ago edited 1d ago

Saying that when he and Ryan were their lifeline is kinda crazy

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u/NegativesPositives 1d ago

#retirepgeoncass

Won the widow duel and was playing his ass off on Soj. Literally that one hero has been a throw with him all the time.

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u/meowdymix 1d ago

get smurf a real team

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u/Swimming-Drag-6492 Pge/SugarBron YAOI Shipper :) — 1d ago

he was the problem on map 3 and dmon in general

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u/meowdymix 1d ago

yall the same bots who thought knife was the problem on liquid and now knife is winning on zeta. smurf went from having s tier teammates to bottom of barrel NA

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u/ohvalez 1d ago

They are just pge stans, imagine smurf hitting tap almosr every game and seeing his hitscan negative all the time. I too would be boomed