r/IKEA • • 1d ago

General $200 inflation in only 5 years…

I have two bookshelves and was thinking about replacing one with a matching version of the ikea one I have. I remember it not being too expensive at the time, but looked a year ago and decided it was way too expensive for my liking and budget right now. Just happened to find the old 2021 receipt and I can’t believe it jumped from $150 to $350 essentially… wasn’t IKEA supposed to be budget friendly decent yet cheap furniture…? Where did the $200 increase come from?

Edit: looks like it’s generally risen a bit in other countries n the large increase is US tariffs, thx to everyone else for sharing the costs in their country! Also i hate trump, i didn’t vote for him, everything i hear n see abt him kills me a bit inside wondering how this is even happening. I am aware of how tariffs work and that the people are the ones taking on the financial burden not the businesses. I’m also aware they’re total bs too. I simply didn’t realize that tariffs would make the price jump that much bc costs for everything is just going up constantly. Thx for contributing, hope that clears anything up.

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u/Repulsive_Bit1455 12m ago

I remember buying mine in like 2014 for well under $100

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u/Suitable-Broccoli264 3h ago

Those are $211 USD in Canada. I’m sorry but I think it’s the tariffs for you down there.

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u/Substantial-Hat-2556 3h ago

Tariffs aren't high enough to account for it. More likely just attempting to soak US consumers.

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u/Pretty_Mongoose_8692 8h ago

Ever since the rise of ikea in general I feel like all the furniture now is just modern garbage and so samey it's hideous. I loved when department stores sold furniture sets and when places like Pier 1 Imports existed because they carried actually different looking styles. I could decorate a room for a tropical theme or get wicker or french countryside or whatever. Now it's all this blah farmhouse and modern crap. Ikea really helped lower the bar imo. What was supposed to be dorm room furniture suddenly became all there was available. It's hard to even find much difference in furniture in big furniture warehouses either. Ikea is now so expensive for what is arguably crappy entry level stuff that it's depressing to have to pay so much for something that will never be a treasure that you can hand down. 

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u/Fit-Sector-5684 8h ago

Was at IKEA Burlington Ontario today and saw more than a few US plates in the parking lot.

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u/Flaky_Pumpkin_1598 11h ago

Wow! I think I paid $299 or $349 for my Hemnes cabinets with glass doors 3 years ago.

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u/Buusey 13h ago

I was going to get this over the summer and because I waited, I can’t bring myself to pull the trigger on principle. Any recommendations for other bookcases around this price point?

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u/metooz 10h ago

I also can’t bring myself to get it at this price now, I’m just looking at various ones on Amazon now tbh 🤷

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u/FruitcakeRru 5h ago

I know you both are hoping to get the HEMNES, but I just wanted to add that I got three BILLY bookcases for my first IKEA purchase ($89 each). I am ecstatic about them!

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u/Rekttit 23h ago

Ikea Netherlands just LOWERED the price by 50 euro.

It's now 179 euro (includes tax) ($210).

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u/Lordofpineapples 1d ago

Trump tax

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u/Excellent_Rule_2778 1d ago

It currently sells for 200 USD in Canada.

It's almost like there's a 50% tariff tax on it in the US.

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u/jve909 16h ago

It cost $206 in Poland (converted to dollars)

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u/jve909 16h ago

And $190 in Germany:

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u/austrianbst_09 19h ago

€ 179 here in Austria according to the IKEA App

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u/millie_hillie 1d ago

Buy the solid wood stuff secondhand on facebook marketplace. That’s what I do. Tariffs suck.

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u/Phunkman 1d ago

There is no world where they actually need to charge that much for that item. Just profit

I went there last night for. Sectional as I saw some good looking ones online. Sat on everything in store and nothing was comfortable.

Quality has gone down while they introduced cheaper materials and the prices go up.

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u/Historical_Pea_9194 1d ago

ART OF THE DEAL LOL

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u/Superb-Classroom6218 1d ago edited 20h ago

American discovers tariffs and blames everything else but

You guys absolutely deserve your government

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u/whitestar11 1d ago

I know exactly how you feel. I think this bookshelf is worth $150 but nowhere close to $350. I would happily buy 10 at $150. Mix and match some colors. I have one and wish I bought more when the price was good but just took it for granted

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u/metooz 1d ago

Lmao same, i didn’t really have the need to replace my other one before, but now i wish i would’ve gotten another sooner 💀

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u/ThemHollowPines 1d ago

The Trump tax. The costs have not gone up like that outside the US

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u/metooz 22h ago

Yeah that’s pretty much what I’ve found thanks to everyone sharing the price from their country

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u/catssandwhatnot 1d ago

The cost of ikea now is negating its demand with being the alternative choice to bigger ticket items. The quality just isn’t there to justify going with them. I’m buying all new furniture for my living room and I am really shocked to see how much their sofas cost. A small sectional at Interior Define costs as much as as a sofa I saw at IKEA.

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u/Pretty_Mongoose_8692 8h ago

Same. I bought my sectional from them in 2023 and it was like 1500 and I still had to source some proper legs for it or the damn thing would be so uncomfortably low to the ground that I wouldn't be able to have some people sit on it (like my grandma) because it would be too hard for them to get up. 

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u/Cdylanr 1d ago

More wining by Pedolf Shitler.

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u/grouchypant 1d ago

Buy Canadian hehehe

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u/AnnualMembership 1d ago

Seriously. I just moved to Canada from the states and the cost of one sideboard in the US was the same as furnishing the entire room up north. Americans don’t realize how deeply F’d the tariffs have sent prices on everything. 

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u/alicia98981 14h ago

We do, it’s trying to be MAGA to realize it since they keep voting for him and his followers

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u/Cassb256 1d ago

299 CAD is about 211.20 USD

Just adding the conversion as the price difference is crazy!

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u/Logical_Front5648 1d ago

In Germany It is regular priced at 199 Euro or about 223 USD. Currently on sale for 169 Euro or about or about $190. These prices include VAT (or sales tax in the US).

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u/grouchypant 1d ago

Thanks! No joke, USD buys a lot in Canada...

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u/New-Friend7758 1d ago

Welcome to the world of tax and tariffs

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u/makmillion 1d ago

That’s a wild five years.

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u/CuriousBee789 1d ago

How did you do that

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u/alphajuliet8 1d ago

It’s only £165 in the UK. Seems like a US problem.

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u/Wikkalay 1d ago

It’s €180 here but apparently they lowered the price permanently from €229

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u/alphajuliet8 1d ago

Good point, the UK price also appears to have been permanently lowered from £199.

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u/Sp4mmer 1d ago

Also keep in mind that while they have been increasing the prices, the quality has also dropped by making design choices to cut their costs (replacing metal parts with plastic ones, cheaper boards and so on)

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u/kanzaki1234 1d ago

I got mine for 89.99 or 99.99 5 years before you. It was made in Italy

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u/Icy_Refrigerator_503 1d ago

Also worth remembering all the quoted European prices include tax 😅

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u/ziggystardust8282 1d ago

Trump economy

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u/cinnabarslither 1d ago

I'm wondering if the Hemnes is a poor example.

I pulled my purchases from Feb 2021 when I bought a gorgeous blue Billy with glass doors for $179 USD (which I stalked for months because it was COVID era and everything was scarce) and what it costs today, which is $199 USD.

The Hemnes are solid wood (mostly) and the cost of lumber and wood has increased steadily since the pandemic, at least in the US.

The issue with the current Billy is thst the quality of the finish has declined, even if the price hasn't increased much.

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u/metooz 1d ago

It might be, i can’t say much on it, i don’t have a lot of ikea furniture really. Most of the stuff my family has is second hand and stuff we’ve had for as long as i can remember. Plus a few amazon replacements for small stuff over the years. I already have that bookcase and love it so i was just looking to get a matching one and was shocked how much it went up even with tariffs and inflation. I knew wood costs went up, but i didn’t know they were still up and increasing, but I’m not even surprised.

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u/tunisianpanther 1d ago

I sold a used 6 years old couch and made money from it 😂 Go in a real furniture store, it will be cheaper and better quality

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u/Upper-Principle6063 1d ago

Come to France; it's cheaper.😊

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u/joeywrnr 1d ago

Come to Germany, it‘s 169€

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u/110mat110 1d ago

Lol, in Czechia it is 5490CZK ~ 225€. Poorer country that has more expensive goods

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u/Sephvion 1d ago

Yup. I bought one a while back and when I thought about getting a second on, years later, I laughed at the price. It's worth nowhere near $350, with its quality lol.

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u/GreeffR 1d ago

At least this cabinet is made of wood, not sawdust and paper.

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u/Sephvion 1d ago

While I agree, I've had to disassemble and reassemble it several times, from moves, and the wood isn't the best. I don't expect oak, obviously, but you have to be careful.

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u/cubed_echoes 1d ago

It's not very good wood. If you ever try to move it you'll see it's not very solid

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u/lending_ear 1d ago

In Sweden it’s 3000kr which is $300usd

And honestly the quality has progressively gotten worse. We stopped shopping there in Sweden for anything furniture. They’ve gotten greedy.

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u/johsj 23h ago

It's 2495 now

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u/lending_ear 22h ago

I see that it’s still more expensive than everywhere else

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u/Philuppus 1d ago

The quality is the same or better lol. Rose colored glasses are really.

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u/TiroBat 1d ago

This is mostly tariff work

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u/Philuppus 1d ago

Tarrifs don’t explain a 100+% increase. This is inflation+corporate greed.

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u/lending_ear 1d ago

Really because it’s 3000kr in SWEDEN so $300usd

IKEA is from Sweden. It’s not radically cheaper here.

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u/Wikkalay 1d ago

You are getting scammed. It’s a lot cheaper I the rest of Europe

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u/incognito-jo 1d ago

this just made me realize im never getting my radmanso dresser that ive been waiting to restock since January 😭

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u/235ale27 1d ago

It’s 199€ in Italy

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u/lending_ear 1d ago

It’s 3000kr (€270) in Sweden, the home of IKEA lol

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u/iBringMyselfTrouble 1d ago

The idasen desk used to be like $250 for the static, and ~350 for the electric.. $450 and $800 dollars now. 😬.
Really solid desk still but damn

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u/FuturamaRama7 1d ago

My IKEA in Bolingbrook, IL is closing. It was a ghost town during Covid and was finally looking back to normal in recent months.

They are building one 1/6 of the size in the next town over. It’s going to suck.

There is no doubt tariffs killed it. 90%+
of the items in there are imported.

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u/ToastSpangler 1d ago

You should see the Ikea in Philly, it's a ghost town, genuinely weird place to be. An empty Ikea just looks wrong. And it's serving millions of people

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u/skidmore101 1d ago

NO THAT SUCKS SO MUCH. I actually live in VA but have family in Naperville so the Bolingbrook IKEA is the one I get to go to the most.

The Schaumburg one SUCKS I hate how the marketplace is mixed with the showroom.

This is terrible news :(

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u/Kbean227 1d ago

The article I saw said that the Bolingbrook location was closing but that they were relocating to a location in Naperville at the Block 59 shopping center!

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u/Polluxadice 1d ago

Do you understand its tariffs?

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u/Polluxadice 1d ago

Price increases like that are normal. Nuance is important here.

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u/Dodomando 1d ago

It's on offer here in the UK from £199 ($265) down to £165 ($220)

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u/HabANahDa Unverified Co-Worker 1d ago

It’s the tariffs. Not inflation.

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u/lending_ear 1d ago

How do you explain it being $300usd in Sweden for us? We don’t have the tariffs and Sweden is the home of IKEA

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u/HabANahDa Unverified Co-Worker 1d ago

Cause not everything is made in Sweden. You are still importing things. Some from the USA as well.

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u/Stinky-swarly 1d ago

its 220usd in norway, so idk why sweden is more expensive in this case. DK prices are also lower than sweden

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u/lending_ear 1d ago

Yeah it’s crazy. I’m wondering now how much more we pay for all the stuff in ikea and why. It’s actually pretty infuriating.

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u/ItsmeKT 1d ago

Before the tarrifs my coffee table that I paid $99 for in 2021 doubled in price just a couple years later. Well before the tariffs, most of the items we bought, beds, bookshelves, desk, dresser all increased significantly.

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u/HabANahDa Unverified Co-Worker 1d ago

COVID raised prices too. The lack of shipments coming ashore cause a supply issue.

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u/ItsmeKT 1d ago

That's True. We had a hard time getting everything we wanted in 2021 but we live close to an Ikea so we were able to get every eventually. Then not too long after that prices skyrocketed

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u/Repulsive_Guy_1234 1d ago

Tarrifs lead to inflation.

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u/masssy 1d ago

Even if it wasn't tariffs it wouldn't mean it's inflation. A single type of product increasing in price is not inflation. Could be shortage, high demand or whatever...

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u/sammiantha [DE 🇩🇪] 1d ago

It’s 169€ here in Germany, so roughly $189. Sorry :(

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u/nemesissi 1d ago

Don't be sorry, America knows who's fault it is.
https://giphy.com/gifs/DAZujFQvFZxh1kdtCb

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u/lending_ear 1d ago

Man we are getting shafted in Sweden - which is the home of ikea. It’s 3000kr which is €270

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u/FamiliarMGP 1d ago

Yeah, wtf? But it shows:
Tidigare lägsta pris: 2 995:- 1 996:- exkl. moms. Does it mean you have 50% tax on this?!

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u/lending_ear 1d ago

I think it’s because it’s on sale right now for 2500kr and that would make sense for our 25% vat

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u/FamiliarMGP 1d ago

Oh, that makes sense. Thanks. Weird way to display it though.

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u/purple_mountain_cat 1d ago

It's not necessarily inflation but tariffs...

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u/MaidMirawyn 1d ago

Honestly it’s both! Lumber prices have risen sharply, plus tariffs.

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u/uski 1d ago

OMG I went to IKEA last week after not going there for like 2 years, I was shocked by the prices. I remembered IKEA to be very inexpensive, cheap LED light bulbs etc.

All the cost felt wildly inflated...

So glad I am not the only one noticing this. Agreed that maybe the tariffs are an issue although I don't know if it's the only issue

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u/DermisCronJob 1d ago

It is; all other countries have regular prices

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u/goleafsgo13 1d ago edited 1d ago

They kept saying that exporters would pay for the tariffs… who would have thought that a failed business person doesn’t under business.

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u/whatthedna 1d ago

You Americans are getting screwed over by your tariffs.

It’s $299 CAD, so whatever that conversion is, so probably $215 USD or so.

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u/MaidMirawyn 1d ago

Send vibes to fix our orange problem, please 😭

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u/whatthedna 1d ago

We can only hope that nature will do what nature does.

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u/Polluxadice 1d ago

A great deal of us, 93% of my ppl, didn’t vote for this.

The rest? Lol.

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u/virtual_adam 1d ago

Tariffs are charged on the cost of the item at the Chinese factory, not on MSRP

now guess how much one unit costs ikea to manufacture in china

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u/Psychological_Top148 1d ago

Tariffs are applied and paid exclusively at the port of entry by the domestic importer when goods cross the international border.

Guess how much transportation costs from the Chinese factory have risen along with the price of fuel since the Iran war shut down the Strait of Hormuz.

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u/virtual_adam 1d ago

Transportation costs are not part of tariffs

There is a waybill, the waybill has the cost they paid the factory, that’s what tariffs are applied on. Europe

You would expect increased transportation costs to hit Canada and Europe as much if not more than the US, so that doesn’t explain the difference

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u/Psychological_Top148 1d ago

Never said that they were a part of tariffs. It was a response to your snippy “now guess how much one unit costs ikea to manufacture in China”

Transportation costs plus tariffs contribute to the overall increase in the product cost.

No, I don’t expect the increased transportation costs to hit the same if not more. That’s your view.

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u/Padgriffin 1d ago

The Hemnes is largely made in Poland, according to this 2021 document from IKEA. Quite a lot of IKEA's stuff is actually made in Europe.

It also doesn't matter if the tariff is on the Cost Of Goods Sold and not the MSRP, if the tariff increases COGS by 25% then you'll increase the MSRP by at least that much else you lose money

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u/virtual_adam 1d ago

If the cost of a $150 shoe is $15, and you put a 50% tariff raising it to $22.5, then no, that doesn’t explain why a corporation would then charge $75 (50% of MSRP) as a result

One explanation are record breaking profits (aka what is now known as “greedflation”

IKEA will report profits in a few weeks, and I “suspect” the profits will be higher than last year

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u/DermisCronJob 1d ago

Please look up how tariffs work and how the final price is determined, because you’re making a fool of yourself.

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u/virtual_adam 1d ago

Costco received ~$500M in tariff refunds on ~$300B of non-membership payment revenue

That should tell you how cheap things are on the waybills that tariffs are added on to

On the under hand at the same time they were paying tarriffs (and transferring them to consumers) their profits went up 14% year over year. Somehow those “tariff price increases” magically increased their profits. Really something huh

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u/Polluxadice 1d ago

So as someone that actually imports goods into the US, you have NO idea what you’re talking about.

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u/virtual_adam 1d ago

I mean it literally is my job, so happy to hear what you disagree with

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u/Polluxadice 1d ago

You’re just wildly assuming that the profits are related to tariffs. You should never assume that.

If it’s your job, then your profits are up bc you’re using tariffs to justify a price hike? Bc the price increase wouldn’t be profit then, right? You don’t know how they’re declaring shipments nor the values. So you can’t make a blanket statement like that.

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u/Silentslayer99 1d ago

You just explained it. Companies will gouge when they can. Tariffs allow that. Regardless of how much they are, the consumer pays their dues and then some.

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u/Muddlesthrough 1d ago

$211ish USD.

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u/Top-Albatross7765 1d ago

That's weird, the price just went down in Germany afaik.

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u/DermisCronJob 1d ago

No worries; this is in Freedom country and freedom units

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u/Animethemed 1d ago

All thanks to our current president's tariffs, unfortunately... Not to mention the gas prices due to this war he started. Importing has become a lot more expensive, and we are seeing that in pretty much everything we buy here. Fun times.

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u/GerWeistta 1d ago

That’s the orange man tax. It’s €179 in the Netherlands, around $200

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u/PumpkinMyPumpkin 1d ago

Gotta love the states puts in a president that taxes all imports - and then they wonder why everything is expensive 😂

They voted for the biggest tax increase in decades. Can’t help them.

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u/MaidMirawyn 1d ago

I most assuredly did not vote for him.

I voted against him, spoke against him, protested, everything.

A lot of us have, but unfortunately a lot of people simply would not vote for a woman. Plus racism 🤬

Please God let us loosen the Republican grip with the upcoming midterms!

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u/nightowl1592 1d ago

Many of us didn't vote for him (either time) and are sick of his shenanigans. We just wish that nature hurries up and takes care of the problem.

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u/lolzimcoolwow 1d ago

And that literally is how democracy works?

Majority of ppl voted for him,case closed

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u/DermisCronJob 1d ago

Issue is that most of the people that did vote have voted for him.

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u/metooz 1d ago

I still think the election was rigged n he didn’t actually win popular vote 🤷 too many ppl voted for him regardless tho

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u/Psychological_Top148 1d ago

Every person who didn’t vote for this needs to conduct teaching moments which emphasize that ‘tariffs = taxes’ for the unaware in their circle.

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u/Zestyclose-West-1904 1d ago

Wow, USA is really going down with the tariffs. So.Much.Winning 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/DermisCronJob 1d ago

Freedom 🦅🦅🦅

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u/boobiecontrol 1d ago

Equivalent of $275 usd in Australia!

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u/BudoB 1d ago

Just got a new price, down to the equivalent of $220 here in Serbia.

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u/yaddiyadda_ 1d ago

Wait. What. This is actually cheaper in CANADA?!? 😳😯

This never happens. Wow. It's $299 here.

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u/metooz 1d ago

I know shit is bad bad when Canada is cheaper for once 😵‍💫

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u/yaddiyadda_ 1d ago

It's not for everything 😆 Maybe it's just this specific Hennes bookshelf?

For fun I checked the price of my dining table (the round morbylanga). I paid $799 in '22 and now it's $999CAD (has been for a while I think), but it's still $799usd.

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u/Roosike 1d ago

299CAD which means 211USD! So it’s much much more cheaper here!

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u/Alessandro_hrn 1d ago

200 in France. Not Ikea's fault, 1000% your President.

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u/Witty_Username_28 1d ago

False. 1000000000% our dipshit president.

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u/universe_from_above 1d ago

On sale for 169€ instead of 199€ in Germany.

But I get OP's frustration. When we moved into our house, we got a cheap sofa for 279€ and decided we'd get a "proper" one when the kids are older and less messy. Now the next barely comparable one is ÄLVDALEN for 349€. 

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u/Teibban 1d ago

You voted for that. It is 299$ in Canada 😂

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u/NotChristina 1d ago

I didn’t. 😢

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u/DisciplineGreen6503 1d ago

Yeah but there are school shootings every other day in America.

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u/MaidMirawyn 1d ago

American here.

There was another one yesterday, in Oregon. Three kids (5,8,11) and one teacher are 💀 One student and one teacher injured.

A random person saw the sh00ter literally sh00t out a door to enter. Grabbed a 🔫, followed him in, sh0t him 💀

This is doubly stressful for me, because not only do I have school age nieces and nephews, but both my husband and bff teach elementary school. Teachers almost always 💀 at a much higher rate.

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u/Teibban 1d ago

Yeah still using GPD per capita? This is something Europe and most other countries do not use anymore as it ignores a lot of other factors like QoL, living standards etc... this is an outdated measurement used by MAGA people because in other metrics USA is lower than most civilized countries 😂

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u/rakne 1d ago

you are so far off base it's laughable.

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u/Teibban 1d ago

Tell me you never went out of your state without telling me

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u/DJ_Mullet 1d ago

299 Canadian rubbles, AKA ≈210USD

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u/Teibban 1d ago

Yeah so this is even worse for you. Continue with your idiot as President and it will just get worse 😂

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u/moocat90 1d ago

and some said 200€ in France that's 225 USD

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u/GarriganGate 1d ago

It’s not just the Trump tariffs. There has been massive inflation across the globe since 2020.

IKEA is not immune to rising costs of wood, plastic, shipping, freight, oil, labour and more.

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u/Teibban 1d ago

It is 299$ in Canada so yes there was an inflation which should put it around 220 USD with the exchange rate but most of it is due to USA tariffs... stop protecting this idiot.

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u/bright-avocado90 1d ago

Came to say this !

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u/silverbatwing 1d ago

Not just tariffs, it’s also stupid trumps not war on Iran because of gas/diesel

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u/bbackbone [GB 🇬🇧] 1d ago

Thats trump for you not IKEAs fault

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u/Existing-Frosting-71 1d ago

It’s the same in France

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u/MsJenX 1d ago

Wow . Has the quality improved?

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u/Hot-Pop217 1d ago

wtf, as a European, the first pic shocked me a lot more than the 200$ price hike. I had heard that paying tax was messed up and difficult in the USA, but I didn’t realize that products have wild un-round prices like 163.53$ :O. That’s so funny. Looks like IKEA tried to price it a round number (149.00$) at a wrong step 😂😂😂

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u/BrianTheUserName 1d ago

That's just how everyone prices things in the US, it's not a mistake by IKEA. It's also not that difficult to pay the taxes, it happens automatically at the register.

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u/DermisCronJob 1d ago

I find that so stupid; just put the price including tax at the shelf. Zero reason for not doing that except to deceive people.

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u/MaidMirawyn 1d ago

It’s not deceit—it’s the way the law is written.

There are some circumstances where purchases are tax exempt, so in those cases, it’s shelf price. (For IKEA, it would mainly be purchases going into schools or government agencies.)

And yes, it’s sometimes annoying.

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u/Padgriffin 1d ago

The annoying part is figuring out what the actual cost is while shopping. It's much easier to process the price when it's simple addition rather than sticker price * (1+tax rate) plus sticker price + (1+tax rate)...

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u/Modern_Doshin 1d ago

Paying sales tax is pretty straight foreward. Each state has their own set percentage and some municipalities add a small percentage on top of it. Some areas have no taxes on some items (food, water, clothing, ect). It's just added on to the final price.

The people that complain about taxes have no clue where their money goes (roads, schools, public services, mental health, ect). If a state gave up sales and property taxes, they would have to solely rely on levies, very expensive levies (which normally get factored into sales or property taxes).

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u/CheeseWheels38 1d ago

That's not at all straightforward though.

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u/altfillischryan 1d ago

Sales tax laws here are far from straightforward though. The two biggest examples of the weirdness are in car sales and online shopping. For vehicle sales, the sales tax is based on where you register the car, not where you bought it. So for instance, I grew up on the border of Illinois and Wisconsin. If we showed the sales tax included, the same vehicle (ignoring discounts & all other fees) would have a lower sticker price at a Wisconsin dealership than in Illinois, but an Illinois resident driving across the border thinking they got a deal would see a higher price at the final deal, which would definitely cause issues.

For online shopping, a delivery order is taxed based on the shipping address, so online retailers would require people to put in their shipping address before they start to shop to see the correct final price. However, pickup orders would be taxed based on the location of where you pick up the item. If we bring this back to IKEA, the one near me is in a higher tax county, so if someone living 10+ miles from the store is shopping online, they'll see one price if they are browsing while under a shipping label, but if they then decide to drive to the store or do a click & collect, they'll see a higher price with sales tax included, and that will cause customer complaints and issues with any price matching guarantees stores may have.

There are other weird scenarios as well, but just on much smaller scales than the above. I agree that it is an annoying practice, but what's even more annoying is non-Americans with limited to no knowledge of our laws acting like they know better.

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u/CheeseWheels38 1d ago

It would be trivial for Ikea to update prices based on shipping location, and even easier to do it on labels on store.

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u/Cuntonesian [SE 🇸🇪] 1d ago

But it’s fucked up it’s not included in the price

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u/Modern_Doshin 1d ago

How? In my area it's 6.5%. I just do basic math to find the total. We're kinda glad it's not what the price on the shelf is the final price because I can go shopping in a lower taxed area.

It's honestly not a big deal just the internet acts like it is.

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u/Sleepy_in_Brooklyn 1d ago

Not just the state, short period in the south at the supermarket you would pay 4-5% state’s sales tax and then 1% extra for the city but in another area it was the state tax plus 1% for one city/county + 2% more for the nearby county. That’s just making up numbers as you go, not simple math.

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u/WhatEver069 1d ago

I just do basic math to find the total

That's the point, you shouldn't have to do any math when you're out shopping. The final price should already be on display, no taxes added on in the end

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u/WHY-TH01 1d ago

There was a small European grocery store with two locations that included it and it was interesting to see something be $10.83 in the city limits and $10.55 outside it.

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u/Kangoo-Kangaroo 1d ago

It's so funny to see people like you try to justify an archaïc practice just because you grew up not knowing anything else, meanwhile the entire rest of the world is just going "wtf".

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u/Hobbyoo 1d ago

It’s not the internet, my friend. You needed three sentences to explain it while other people from other countries just see the price they pay.

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u/MsJenX 1d ago

What they are saying is that the displayed price should be the total price (which includes the tax in that city). I know when i was little going to McDonald’s and thinking I had enough money only to be surprised with a higher amount I didn’t have. Later as an adult I witnessed a little boy go through the same at Starbucks. I stepped in to help with the difference.

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u/UpperLeftOriginal 1d ago

The same should be true at restaurants. Especially post-covid now that more restaurants are adding weird service fees (that aren’t the tip) on the bill. The price you see should be the price you pay. Whatever program stores use to maintain their price list can add 3 more fields - location, tax %. and final price. Labels can be printed with either just the total, or show item price, tax, and total. It’s a minor project.

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u/pppancakes123 1d ago

Including taxes RM899/USD220 here in Malaysia

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u/_cl0uds 1d ago

Maybe wait until you have the next President for any New purchases...

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u/MezzoSoaprano 1d ago

Trump's tariffs.

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u/orlybird2345 1d ago

Yeah this. It’s even cheaper in Canada. Tariffs are making America great again, right?

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u/Ok_Bit8836 1d ago

+ $200 is not the problem; +233% is the REAL problem...

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u/ne999 1d ago

$211 USD / $299 CAD for me in Canada.

It’s your stupid politicians and their tariffs.

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u/cheapmondaay 1d ago

$299 in Canada ($211 USD) 🙈

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u/dirtybo0ts 1d ago

$200 in Canada. And like stuff is never cheaper up here compared to the US.
https://giphy.com/gifs/I3WAJgc0J61Xxkff5o

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u/ScienceTom1 1d ago

In Germany prices were going down recently.
Ordered a new Besta for ~1400 Euros and one year ago I would have paid ~1800 Euros.

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u/znobrizzo 1d ago

Looks like US tariffs might have something to do with it. In Romania it costs 999 RON (210 USD)

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u/minadequate 1d ago edited 1d ago

Do you live in the US?… that’s tariffs for you.

My friend works for Ravensburger (puzzles) and said the tariffs mean their products are now twice as expensive to get into the US (they kept trying to move production but then Trump would impose a new tariff. They have had a lot of international redundancies because before the new tariffs half their income was from Target and Walmart).

It will also be the increase in fuel to transport due to ongoing wars, and the cost of no longer trading with Russia for wood products etc due to Ukraine.

But when you look at the price changes outside of the US the main increase can only be due to tariffs and/or a falling value of the dollar against other currencies (the dollar was worth €1.03 in Sept 2022, and €0.87 4 years later) or higher transport costs because building in the EU and selling in the EU has low transport costs comparatively.

Billy bookcases are made in Sweden, Germany, Slovakia and China… if you’re paying 10-30% tariffs on imports, and maybe a 15% loss in currency valuation, a 25% increase in the cost of oil (which will have a much bigger effect on large countries far from production, the distance to a port of most places in say Ireland is very small) then sure the cost is going to increase significantly more than other countries.

(Apologies in advance for any slight mistakes in numbers it’s hard to do this on my phone in bed…) But yeah this was a certain someone’s plan, make global products cost more to incentivise local businesses who can’t produce at the same costs to make jobs. I don’t agree with it (especially because US citizens pay the price of closing off the marketplace), but this is the impact of global politics.

(EDIT:
I didn’t actually look at what bookcase it was, Hemnes is likely built in Poland & Lithuania, but it still follows. )

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u/metooz 1d ago

Damn what a thorough explanation, thank you for all that it was very insightful 🙏

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u/minadequate 1d ago

I think it’s really easy to say ‘tariffs’ and that not really have any impact on people’s thinking. But this increase is clearly very different from the experience of those outside the US.

This is the direct effect of global politics: Trumps tariffs, a war in Iran started by Trump, and the Ukrainian war started by Putin.

Tariffs can have the ability to create American jobs but they primarily increase the profits of American large business owners, while increasing the cost of living for the average working American. They are a means of moving money from the poor to the rich, and they are a means to destabilise markets so that hedge funds can profit off that instability.

If anyone thinks that right wing politics is fighting for the little guy, not for the million/billionaires then they really haven’t been paying attention.

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u/No_Kiwi6054 1d ago

Say thanks to your president ...

The price increase is due to the new tarifs Trump did. Now you are suposed to buy from an american company, if you want to buy from a non american company ... pay the tax...