r/PoursTea • 🫖 Mod ☕️ • Sep 14 '26

European Renaissance 🍾 🧀 🍻 🇬🇧The Future?

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u/Stinky_Pete699 Sep 15 '26

You seem so certain on something you know very little about.

If Scotland voted to leave the UK in a lawful, agreed independence referendum, the terms would almost certainly be negotiated as a major constitutional settlementbetween the Scottish and UK governments, followed by legislation in both Parliaments. There is no pre-existing UK law that says,for example, “Scotland gets 8% of theassets and assumes 8% of the debt.”

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u/inminm02 Sep 15 '26

A negotiation in which Scotland has barely any power, a “no deal” situation would be devastating for Scotland and negligible for England, and Westminster can simply say no to anything they disagree with. If you think Scotland are leaving without taking their fair share of debt you’re delusional.

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u/Stinky_Pete699 Sep 15 '26

Again, how do you actually know that Scotland will have ‘no power’ another trust me bro argument then…

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u/inminm02 Sep 15 '26

Because it’s common sense? The political pressure will be on the Scottish government to get an independence agreement, there is no pressure on the British government, Scottish business relies on access to the English market, the reverse isn’t true, Scotland relies on England for defence, the reverse isn’t true.

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u/Stinky_Pete699 Sep 15 '26

No it’s not ‘common sense’ it’s trust me bro sense. Scotland and Wales, like Ireland don’t want your ‘defence’. I’m sure you can defend yourselves and worry about yourselves.

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u/Chemical_Scholar_753 Sep 16 '26

Same way that everyone knew the UK would have very limited power in negotiations post-Brexit. A small economy very dependent on a large economy doesn’t have as much power as a large economy negotiating with a smaller one. Sometimes the smaller one can influence the larger one (Canada seems to be doing ok against the US right now) but ultimately England can strangle the Scottish economy without a huge cost to England if a negotiating Scottish government refused to give into demands to split the national debt or concede on other points England cares about.

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u/DasGutYa Sep 15 '26

Because England can repeal the use of the £ from Scottish business.

This single and very legal action, by itself, would cripple Scotland for decades.

By the way, since you seem to think that England is 'failing', what exactly do you think will happen when the largest country by far in all metrics is forced to subsidise its neighbours post dissolution?

Peace and happy time?...

The 60 million + will over run the newly independent states with militia within a year.

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u/Stinky_Pete699 Sep 15 '26

No England can do no such thing. Honestly the amount of trust me bro comments from desperate unionists is hilarious.

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u/Frosty_Shame8876 Sep 16 '26

I mean you're not making any good arguments against their points. Just hostile and insults so I'm not surprised they aren't taking you seriously.