r/SipsTea • • Jul 06 '26

Feels good man Bryan Johnson got Autoimmune Disease

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u/Kuzcopolis Jul 06 '26

Belongs in r/sadposting

This may well have been one of his worst fears, and he hasn't done much harm, if any.

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u/TheFireNationAttakt Jul 06 '26

Googling it, since the screenshot annoyingly doesn’t mention it, it’s autoimmune gastritis - which is relatively common and quite manageable, and typically does not affect life expectancy. He, of all people, will be fine.

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u/maybenomaybe Jul 06 '26

I have autoimmune gastritis and it doesn't "eat you alive from the inside", what magnificent nonsense in that tweet, could not believe the misinformation. My stomach is fine, aside from not being able to absorb b12. The resulting deficiency causes primarily neurological and nerve symptoms. It's solved with regular b12 injections.

Of all the autoimmune conditions out there, it's one of the better ones to have.

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u/th3-rifles-spiral Jul 06 '26

I have it as well. Autoimmune presentations can vary wildly; mine can be very painful sometimes if I’m not careful with my diet, and I have precancerous tissue in my GI tract. However, to say that this condition is the stomach “eating itself” is so crazy. So much misinformation and fearmongering over what is not at all a terminal condition.

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u/IbidtheWriter Jul 08 '26

It's hyperbole, but also inaccurate in that "the stomach eating itself" is more apt description of a gastric ulcer. 

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u/th3-rifles-spiral Jul 08 '26

Yes, but the hyperbole is problematic because so many people are going to take it literally and misunderstand the condition. Sigh. I hope he’s more precise with his language about his condition in the future—he has a big platform and lots of people listening.

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u/IbidtheWriter Jul 08 '26

I get it, and if you want to be hyperbolic but more accurate you could say something like "My immune system is fire bombing my stomach acid factories" Or even "My stomach lining is disappearing"

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u/th3-rifles-spiral Jul 08 '26

Completely agree. If I hadn’t known better (having the same condition myself), I’d have assumed based on the headline that his condition would quickly destroy his stomach and take away his ability to eat entirely.

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u/idobepooping Jul 06 '26

By the headline I thought it was Crohn’s lol that’s basically what Crohn’s is. But nope!

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u/DoctorSpacecase Jul 06 '26

Yeah, I have IBS / gastritis. TBH, the reality is that certain "experimental" treatments like peptides are actually the only thing that substantially helps, beyond the obvious stuff of just avoiding trigger foods. I understand people making fun of Bryan Johnson sometimes as he does some weird stuff, but he also shares his data and experiences with the public. And this is all in an environment where we *expect* the medical establishment to rob us for every penny. We should not be celebrating this guy suffering.

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u/vespanewbie Jul 17 '26

Exactly I'm pissed people are critizing him. He didn't have to share anything about his health issue and could have just kept it to himself. I genuinely appreciate that he did share it, if he finds anything that works or cutting edge treatments, he will share it.

Also he has his own personal health team and this was missed for years. This shows how the medical system fails us, it should have been caught a long time ago. I had a iron deficiency for years and was told to take more iron by doctors. I met two people who were naturopaths and told me something was causing the low iron and that I need to find out the root cause. None of the doctor cared about the root cause. I eventually found out the root cause (turns out I have beta minor thalassemia), but it's crazy that doctors hear iron deficiency and do nothing to investigate which happened in Byans case too.

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u/Lou_C_Fer Jul 06 '26

I have ulcerative colitis and rheumatoid arthritis. I was taking ibuprofen for years because of body aches I assumed were from my job. Eventually, I got super sick and the only thing that helped my gut pain was ibuprofen. Turns out, it was masking the pain from the damage it was doing by triggering my ulcerative colitis. It had been eating my guts for years and hiding its own damage.

So, no more NSAIDs for me... and wouldn't you know it, those body aches came on like bats out of hell. I just toughed them out until a pain doc insisted that I use a topical nsaid for my back. All of my aches disappeared, but even though it was topical, it still triggered my ulcerative colitis. So, I stopped using it. The difference between how I felt with pain relief and without was enough to finally get me to look into it. Turns out, it's RA. I've probably been dealing with it since I was a teen and was diagnosed in my late 40s.

I spent years catching shit for how I adjusted to do things through my pain. At work, where others would kneel, I would sit. Installing carpet, anything that I could do seated rather than kneeling, I did. I got to be as fast as anybody doing it the conventional way, but because I was different, it was the wrong way.

Turns out, I was being super human pushing through pain they couldn't imagine.

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u/Quick-Hamster-3872 Jul 06 '26

How did tou find out you had it? What were the symptoms?

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u/maybenomaybe Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

I had extreme fatigue, serious memory loss, brain fog, confusion, difficulty concentrating, nominal aphasia (trying to say one word but another comes out), muscle cramps and spasm in my legs and feet, and spasms and tics in my hands. At one point I was scared I was developing early onset dementia due to the neuro symptoms. I went to my GP who did a blood test and found my b12 levels were extremely low, sub-148 while normal levels are 600-800. She looked at previous blood tests going back two years and saw a downward trend the whole time. Low b12 is most commonly due to diet (vegans are prone) but I had a very b12 rich diet. So she did a quite a few more tests to start ruling out possible causes. Long story short, referred my case over to a haematologist who made the diagnosis. Now I have a b12 injection every couple months for the rest of my life because I'm unable to absorb it through food or supplements.

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u/Quick-Hamster-3872 Jul 06 '26

Oh wow thats crazy. Hope you are doing much better with the b12 injections 

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u/maybenomaybe Jul 06 '26

I am a lot better now, thank you!

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u/Sophet_Drahas Jul 07 '26

How are your symptoms now? 

I’m curious as I’ve been suffering from severe neutropenia as a result of an autoimmune disorder that manifested after I had my gall bladder removed. I’ve always had vitiligo, but it was never actively growing until the last few years as my neutrophil counts have cratered. 

Working with an oncologist we found that a prednisone challenge caused them to return to normal but all other immunosuppressive therapies haven’t worked. 

I suspect it might be gastritis and my bodies reaction to inflammation, but that’s just a theory of mine. I’m trying to figure out next steps now, and am looking for a good gastrointerologist to see if I can get my GI system looked at. Kind of scary right now because I’ve been suffering from some of the neurological symptoms you mentioned. 

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u/maybenomaybe Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

I'd say I'm about 80% recovered. I don't think my memory and concentration are all the way back yet, but I'm no longer having episodes where I find myself in a room and don't know why I'm there. The confusion and aphasia are gone. The muscular symptoms are gone except funnily enough for a few weeks after I have an injections, I get an issue with my hands where they lock up, particularly when I'm making a fist or picking up something heavy. I've had to pry my fingers off the kettle handle more than once.

Interesting you mention your white blood cell issue, I have sort of the opposite with an elevated eosinophil level, but I also have asthma so that's not unusual.

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u/Emotional_Position62 Jul 07 '26

So are we just out here taking what “Clown World” says at face value? They didn’t even quote him. Those words are entirely their own and used as click bait.

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u/Buddybuddhy Jul 07 '26

As someone with that disease, how disgusting are these doctors who are blaming it on his pursuit of health and making random claims off the top of their head that he’s taking dangerous substances with 0 proof?

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u/Head-Gift2144 Jul 07 '26

I mean, it might decrease HIS life expectancy since HIS life expectancy is forever.

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u/KamaSutraOnMars Jul 08 '26

I wish this comment was higher up lol

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u/Great_Justice Jul 06 '26

I was legitimately interested in whether his extremes would enable him to reach an older age never achieved or not. To me he’s doing the life longevity version of building some crazy super car and driving it yourself to beat a record. This is like the car getting a flat tyre and it crashing out on the way.

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u/TemporaryElk5202 Jul 06 '26

He has had an autoimmune thyroid condition (hashimotos) since he was 20 or so. He always had middling health, that is part of why he got so obsessive about it.

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u/Typical-Amoeba-6726 Jul 06 '26

Once you have one autoimmune disease, they pile up.

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u/Immediate_Rabbit_604 Jul 06 '26

Isn't he kind of in incredible health for Hashimotos? That's the one that takes your energy and makes you swell up, right?

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u/ryukeio Jul 07 '26

Yeah.

Honestly, he’s in fantastic shape. I’m a former competitive powerlifter and it’s refreshing to see a public persona push fitness as a tool, not as a personality requirement or something you beed to be obsessive or elite in to benefit from.

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u/commanderquill Jul 07 '26

Uh, he sounds pretty damn obsessive...

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u/DongayKong Jul 07 '26

idk much about the guy but he kinda seems like an autistic gamer who just games irl with his body..

I do that too in summers with cardio as its fun to watch all metrics like resting hr, VO2max and time improve. But he obviously has more free time and money to game even harder than I can

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u/TemporaryElk5202 Jul 07 '26

he used to be Mormon. i think he is genuinely unhealthily obsessed with living forever​

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u/TemporaryElk5202 Jul 07 '26

I mean people can And do treat hashimotos. he does appear to be in ok health for having it

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u/gamertrub Jul 06 '26

He seems like a okay dude, from his appearance on MSSP

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u/heddyneddy Jul 06 '26

As far as tech billionaires go he’s one of the better ones. At least his weird and freaky experiments and ideas he’s only applying to himself and his family and not the rest of us.

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u/CrescentCrisp Jul 06 '26

Pedantic, but he is nowhere near billionaire. Still filthy rich tho but sold his tech company years ago and got a few hundred mill

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u/JayKayRQ Jul 06 '26

A few hundred mil could very well be a bil if invested years ago

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u/llammacookie Jul 06 '26

Eh, if you watch interviews of his son it comes off in a way that makes the son seem very used. It's kind of sad like, "I didnt know my dad while I was growing up so now I'm giving him my blood for a sliver of his attention."

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u/heddyneddy Jul 06 '26

Oh yeah don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a bad guy. Just compared to his peers in hell, he’s a lesser demon and not Satan.

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u/samrw00 Jul 07 '26

It may be controversial, but I think Bryan Johnson is a good guy. I think he's out of touch like a lot of middle aged rich men and his protocol is probably mostly for his own benefit but..

I think he genuinely wants to help people and has good intentions about using his own body as an experiment, knowing things could go wrong, to further health and longevity protocols for the average person.

He also doesn't advocate for people to do the expensive or wacky stuff he does, just that they optimise their sleep, nutrition and exercise.

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u/heddyneddy Jul 07 '26

I don’t think that’s what’s he motivated by, and if it is then he’s incredibly misguided and could be using his time and money in about a thousand different ways that would be far more productive to improving the health and lives of other people. In my opinion, he’s pretty obviously motivated by a narcissistic desire to not die and all the media/public attention that’s gotten him.

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u/samrw00 Jul 08 '26

To your final point, maybe in parts sure, I think he also plays the social media game a little bit and hopes that kind of attention will draw people towards his main message/messages, but I've watched a couple of his appearances on different podcasts and he does come across as quite genuine in his desire to help people and empathetic because of his background.

On your first point, also sure, I think it's fair to say he's a bit misguided, but I think he also makes some good points on how a few specific health optimisations can transform certain people's lives and happiness.

You mentioned better ways to use his money, were there ideas in mind you had? (Genuinely curious :) )

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u/Fun-Environment-4811 Jul 06 '26

I liked him on YMH too. A weird dude- for sure lol but but his passion for this does come off as kind. He recognizes himself as the experiment and doesn't really judge others for doing whatever.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '26 edited Aug 17 '26

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u/TheFireNationAttakt Jul 06 '26

I mean, extremely weird, but not really harmful to wider society.

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u/TravelNSee Jul 06 '26

Ahh so you don't have a problem with someone molesting a child because it only hurt one person?

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u/Beerandpotatosalad Jul 08 '26

It's quite disrespectful imo to compare this to actual sexual misconduct. It's weird for sure but it's just a known health indicator. A father involving their son in their passion (ie health tracking) isn't harmful in and of itself. It's like saying you were molested because your dad took you to the nude beach as a kid.

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u/madness0102 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

In what way? What has he done to indicate that? Or are you using a word you don’t know?

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u/heddyneddy Jul 06 '26

Posting about how you measured your sons nightly erections to millions of people would fit the bill in my opinion

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u/Pleasant-Target-1497 Jul 06 '26

His son is adult and consented. Weird, sure. Sociopath isn't the right word though, redditor.

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u/johncitizen1138 Jul 06 '26

That is messed up. I thought he only looked like a sociopath, but if this is true, you brought the evidence.

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u/ThatCrippledBastard Jul 06 '26

Didn’t this guy like reveal his son’s penis length on the internet or something fucked up like that?

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u/lommer00 Jul 06 '26

I dunno, but he posted his wife's vaginal microbiome after eating her out. That was weird enough for me...

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u/CheeseDonutCat Jul 06 '26

Don't forget his son's nighttime erection data.

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u/lommer00 Jul 06 '26

Ewwwww. I didn't know about that. I regret having internet access.

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u/CheeseDonutCat Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

No, he used a device like a smart watch but you put it on your penis and wear it while you sleep. It gives you numbers.

He posted his sons numbers. Not penis length, but erection time and erection quality.

Still pretty fucking weird.

Also, you can buy one here (don't, but you can see it's the same one): https://www.talktoadam.com/products/adam-sensor

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u/NooStringsAttached Jul 06 '26

Excuse me, he measured and then posted about the timing of his son’s erections?!
My gosh.

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u/Frankerporo Jul 06 '26

Clutches pearls oh my goodness

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u/ThatCrippledBastard Jul 13 '26

People acting like this isn't weird as fuck for some reason.

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u/Frankerporo Jul 13 '26

Who said it wasn’t weird?

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u/CheeseDonutCat Jul 06 '26

Yes. He also compared his own erection quality and time to his sons... and shared the data publically.

Edit: I posted it below, but for anyone who can't see that, here's the link: https://x.com/bryan_johnson/status/1882190186723082318

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u/NooStringsAttached Jul 06 '26

Wow. I saw a
Documentary on this guy and luckily there was no mention in f this. Insane.

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u/KID_THUNDAH Jul 06 '26

Yeah, he’s been privately funding the research into aging and sharing his findings publicly, might end up being useful

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u/YoureVulnerableNow Jul 06 '26

you know I'd be harming people if I had them build me an ark and pretended they would have a spot on it, right

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u/Whats_A_Rage_Quit Jul 06 '26

Wat? He didn’t cause any harm to himself? This had nothing to do with his protocol. Learn to resd

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u/Rip_ManaPot Jul 06 '26

Also, who gives a fuck...

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u/regula_falsi Jul 08 '26

omg you are so corny

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u/FlyConfident1622 Jul 06 '26

He took 1/5 of his 17-year-old son’s total blood volume, and injected it to look younger…

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u/Raidin_ Jul 06 '26

He did this over a period of 6 months, to see what effects it has on aging. It was voluntarily given by his son. He too, voluntarily gave the same amount to his own father during this period. No significant benefits were found, so he ended that trial. If you’re going to say something, say it all.

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u/FlyConfident1622 Jul 06 '26

Do you think a minor child should have to be responsible for defending their own health like that, standing up to their billionaire dad and shutting down the whole idea? Do you think that’s a truly voluntary situation, being pressured into donating dangerous amounts of blood at dangerous frequencies?

And no, I’m not obligated to list every insane part of this guy’s “experiments,” lol. You’re welcome to add whatever you want

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u/Raidin_ Jul 06 '26

Buddy, he was 17. Not a toddler. The son is an active part in the trials because he cares about his dad. I gave blood all the time at even younger ages. It’s perfectly normal. Just because you have some internalized daddy issues, doesn’t mean nobody else cares about their father’s health enough to not do something so small as donate blood.

When you choose to cherry pick information to help frame a situation the way you want everyone to perceive it, it makes you look like an ass. You wanna cry about what someone else chooses to do to help their father be healthy, be my guest. But don’t try and manipulate information to spread your own insecurities to others. Just provide information, and keep the self loathing to yourself.

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u/dumpybrodie Jul 06 '26

There is no difference in donating blood to the Red Cross and giving my father blood for his lich experiments.

There are certainly no different levels of coercion that a child can feel for its parent that they wouldn’t for another person.

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u/AccomplishedPain8595 Jul 06 '26

bro why are u just assuming u know their thoughts and feelings behind all this? its embarrassing

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u/Hugh_Schlongus Jul 06 '26

adding to that also the fact that donating blood and especially plasma is actually healthy for one self

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u/Fit_Employment_2944 Jul 06 '26

Buddy he has a father who spends 2 million a year for aging and he seems to not be being abused

That’s a pretty good life no matter how you cut it

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u/unsolvedfanatic Jul 06 '26

I donated blood in high school, they even used to set it up in our high school gym. 17 is more than old enough to decide to give blood.

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u/FlyConfident1622 Jul 06 '26

1/5 of your blood (way over the donation limit) every month? No, they wouldn’t allow an adult to donate that much, let alone a 17yo.

Registered blood donation has protocols and standards for consent. This situation clearly has none of those

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u/Caffeywasright Jul 06 '26

Donating blood has no adverse affects and some studies even suggest lower chance of cardiovascular disease

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u/Sudden_Juju Jul 06 '26

I think an important point of the blood donation is that it replenishes fully relatively quickly. 17-year-olds donate blood everyday at school without input from their parents. A kid donating to their dad's experiment when any risk is extremely low isn't that different than say helping your dad with a woodworking project and running the risk of getting injured. You hit your thumb with a hammer, it hurts but heals, and you move on.

And no, I’m not obligated to list every insane part of this guy’s “experiments,” lol

Your right, but you also chose a relatively benign example that didn't appear to influence anyone's opinion lol. If there's not a more "insane" example out there, it still doesn't really come off as hurting anyone.

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u/Necessary-Sir4600 Jul 06 '26

Nothing about the transfusions were dangerous your clearly uneducated and ignorant to medical standards and safety precautions, probably to more things than just that based on the kind of ideologies you ascribe to based on whatever social media figurehead or news article u are dedicated to listening to

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u/Moist_Preparation_31 Jul 06 '26

You know donating blood is healthy right? You are just a sad hater

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u/dexpid Jul 06 '26

Children cannot consent

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u/MrCatSquid Jul 06 '26

His son is 19, 18 when this happened

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u/dexpid Jul 06 '26

keep simping for oligarchy :)

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u/FlyConfident1622 Jul 06 '26

No, that’s incorrect. He was 17. It’s literally in the headline of many articles. Where’s your source?

Tech billionaire who spends $2 million a year to look young is now swapping blood with his 17-year-old son and 70-year-old father

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u/FlyConfident1622 Jul 06 '26

If we’re going by “if you’re going to say something, say it all,” here’s some more context:

Not only did he take 1/5 of his teenage son’s blood/plasma monthly for six months (way over the donation limit) he also tracked and compared their penis sizes and erections. “His duration is two minutes longer than mine,” he wrote alongside the chart. “Raise children to stand tall, be firm, and be upright.”

Wanted to make sure that was included so no context is missing! (Quote and info is from a reply I got to another comment on this thread, I had no idea about this either.)

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u/Mysterious-Common284 Jul 06 '26

At one time or like in a year because you can only donate 300ml in 3-4months.

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u/FlyConfident1622 Jul 06 '26

I’m sure it was probably over a period of time, but IMO that’s basically equally weird. Also the son was a minor? How was this even legal

Edit: it was 20% of the son’s blood volume all at once, AND done repeatedly. Jesus

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 Jul 06 '26

Your kid is yours until it’s 18. Even its blood.

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u/Fancy_Ad_4411 Jul 06 '26

abusive mindset

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 Jul 06 '26

Lemme guess, all mine if his car bumped ur car right?

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u/Fancy_Ad_4411 Jul 06 '26

I don't understand what you mean

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 Jul 06 '26

But you know an abusive mindset…Reddit should really verify age.

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u/Fancy_Ad_4411 Jul 06 '26

no, your reply was just incomprehensible.

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u/FlyingSquirelOi Jul 06 '26

No you’re just not making sense

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u/FlyConfident1622 Jul 06 '26

Everyone downvoting needs to chill lol. (I actually laughed out loud at this)

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u/NooStringsAttached Jul 06 '26

This is mental.

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u/MrCatSquid Jul 06 '26

clearly joking

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u/FlyConfident1622 Jul 06 '26

I thought it was funny 😂

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u/LiamMcPoylesGoodEye Jul 06 '26

And that makes him bad? Vain maybe depending on his intention but bad… idk

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u/GoblinLoblaw Jul 06 '26

People who receive blood donations are more likely to have autoimmune reactions, there’s a fair chance that he facilitated this disease by taking his son’s blood and injecting himself with it.

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u/Own_Huckleberry6591 Jul 06 '26

This was my first thought when I saw the news, injecting your sons blood is probably not a good idea lmao... Just be normal guys

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u/FlyConfident1622 Jul 06 '26

The son being a minor, and the quantity (and frequency!) of blood being taken being dangerous and unreasonable, and this guy being in charge of his son’s well-being….

Yeah, I think that pretty much qualifies for a bad person

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u/MrCatSquid Jul 06 '26

The son was 18

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u/FlyConfident1622 Jul 06 '26

No he wasn’t!

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u/doesnotmatter286 Jul 06 '26

Yes. Stealing the blood of someone you're supposed to be looking after and have power over makes you a bad person, how is that even a controversial statement? I'm pretty sure it would be illegal in my country.

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u/depp-fsrv Jul 06 '26

Wait what? Isn't this similar to what Elizabeth Báthory (1560–1614), the 17th-century Hungarian 'Blood Countess' did? Except it was bathing in young blood to de-age herself.

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u/Donte333 Jul 06 '26

Yes, but as fucked up as it is, he did it for science. This is invaluable experimentation moving forward, whike dystopian sounding at first glance

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u/dumpybrodie Jul 06 '26

Doing things for science isn’t always a noble excuse.

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u/Donte333 Jul 08 '26

In a case where the only person affected is you, it is nothing but noble. He is the test dummy, he isnt using others for his experiments other than taking blood from his son (a non harmful procedure) to do an experiment on himself with

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u/Kuzcopolis Jul 06 '26

Well i was ignorant of that/ had forgotten his name. But even so, his son did survive, so I'm willing to say that, despite the harm he did, he doesn't "deserve" this. And anyone feeling gleeful about it is a coward afraid to feel empathetic.

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u/Background-Bison6847 Jul 06 '26

You remind me of the annoying fat lady on the Bryan Johnson vs 20 Skeptics - have a watch and look at who shares your views, just a bunch of overweight septum pierced freaks.

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u/eaterofegg Jul 06 '26

Blood regenerates.

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u/olgabe Jul 06 '26

he's a 1%'er using his wealth for something that could benefit all

he should be getting more positive rep even if he's a bit weird

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u/TheDepep1 Jul 07 '26

Some people are happy because they just hate billionaires. I look at it as we lost a good "test subject" for studying the effects of anti aging.

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u/tryskating404 Jul 07 '26

There are no good venture capitalists

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u/Comfortable-Race-547 Jul 07 '26

He's draining the blood from his child

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u/hendrong Jul 08 '26

I'm actually happy that this thread isn't filled with assholes who point their finger and go "serves him right". Imgur can be classy sometimes. Well done, imgur.

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u/YurkTheBarbarian 23d ago

He has done MUCH harm. Half of the ingredients in his supplements stimulate the immune system. People with autoimmunity get flare ups or get their immune disease triggered. He KNEW that his supplements stimulate the immune system and ignored it.

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u/Spazza42 Jul 06 '26

It makes you wonder how much stress contributes to this though.

Sad news though.

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u/redtiger288 Jul 06 '26

He has enough money to be just fine. He's really not worth being sad over

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u/jhenryscott Jul 06 '26

Nah it’s not sad. People like him will always reap as they sow.

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u/Zelousional Jul 06 '26

Is it too crazy still value all the lives he did no good but sell lifestyles tied to his own product with the claims of these things being the best thing on earth and everyone should do it. Now he's sick where all these things we consume is processed. I mean how much harm he did even as some physicians thinks that is all related. Truth he was committed to build a awesome image regardless of real data bias.
It's a little out of touch people saying this kind of stuff with the amount of evidences confirm anti-nutrients content in vegetables, plus the necessary steps to be a vegan and trust your health in atleast a handfull of supplements without fully understanding the near alchemy levels of fully out body with powders and essences versus the real thing, like bioavailable multiple cases of essential nutrients contained in red meat.

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u/TravelNSee Jul 06 '26

He's done plenty of harm, including promoting steroid abuse olympics and using his own child as resource-cattle