r/comics • MangaKaiki • Aug 07 '26

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire Aug 07 '26

Fair but based on knowing Naomi works retail I'll bet my bottom dollar that her manager won't let her refuse

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u/DarkLanternZBT Aug 07 '26

When I managed, I told my employees if any customer made them uncomfortable they could signal me over with a simple "I need to step out for a minute" and I would take over zero questions asked. And we backed that shit up.

The Dead Kennedys had it right.

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u/DazB1ane Aug 07 '26

You were a good manager then

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u/DarkLanternZBT Aug 07 '26

I was taught by some of the best.

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u/SaltMarshGoblin Aug 07 '26

That was sweet of you as a manager, but there's a difference between "I do not want to be the one to handle this transaction" and "I want this Nazi to leave the store and not spend his bigoted money here..."

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u/DarkLanternZBT Aug 07 '26

A big difference, and one entirely out of the control of a front line retail worker or even a store manager in many, many cases.

By giving my employees a clear, integrity-driven promise to have their backs without making a scene or requiring them to explain themselves, as well as simple instructions on how to do so discretely, it gives them some of that agency and control back. It's also important in de-escalation: if that Nazi were a stalker or abuser, or someone looking for the fight / confrontation / scene, having an escape valve gives an employee with little to no training nor responsibility to deal with that - it's simply not fucking fair to ask that - the choice they need to avoid a fight-or-flight-or-freeze, trapped moment.

Besides if anyone gets to show that little shit where the door is, nicely, walk them nicely to it, and make damn sure they know how unwelcome they are, it'll be me.

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u/R_Little-Secret Aug 07 '26

I remember this one story about a bartender kicking out some SS guy before he even sat down even though he was being civil. When asked the bar tender said if you let one in and tolerate them, then he invites his friends. And then they invite their friends. And before you know it its a Nazi bar. You have to nip it in the bud right away.

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u/Lastoutcast123 Aug 07 '26

The paradox of tolerance in a nutshell

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u/Grave26 Aug 07 '26

You're damn right. Man I wish punk

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u/ours Aug 07 '26

And that night, the Punk Faery came to /u/Grave26 and told him: "Oi! Fuck these nazi punks!" and started shredding on its guitar.

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u/Geek_X Aug 07 '26

100%

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u/BodhingJay Aug 07 '26

some managers arent terrible

but Naomi seems like she needlessly tolerates working for terrible managers and feels oddly at home with it

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u/UnassumingSingleGuy Aug 07 '26

Few people have the luxury to be picky about their employer.

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u/BodhingJay Aug 07 '26

thats true.. and the fewer who can be, the worse the manager tends to be

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u/Saikotsu Aug 07 '26

I mean this in the nicest way possible, but that's probably learned behavior from her terrible mother.

Once you get used to people being terrible to you, it almost feels more natural when people treat you poorly.

I imagine that's one of many things she'll need to work through.

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u/BodhingJay Aug 07 '26

Naomi.. your manager better be kind and stick up for you especially when you deny nazis service. or else the internet will assemble

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u/Saikotsu Aug 07 '26

Seconding this

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u/oLord_heal-this-bike Aug 07 '26

Speaking from experience, when you come from a dysfunctional home environment you tend to have a much higher threshold for dysfunctional work environments. You may not see things for what they are because similar behavior was normalized throughout your life by your caregivers. Your baseline of what is considered acceptable treatment is skewed as a result. This is not to say that we are powerless in perpetuity, of course. It's just an explanation for why such things can occur.

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u/ThatInAHat Aug 07 '26

“Needlessly”

ffs… folks put up with what they have to. And for saying “feels oddly at home about it” well, isn’t a huge chunk of the comic about her emotionally abusive mother?

Baby steps, man. A little empathy ffs.

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u/BodhingJay Aug 08 '26

does making this observation mean I lack compassion for her? 🫤 i didnt actually mean it that way.. im familiar with the pattern myself.. so i can certainly empathize

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u/ThatInAHat Aug 08 '26

It was worded in a way that sounded very victim-blaming.

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u/Gil-galed987 Aug 07 '26

Precisely. Most managers will literally let customers do ANYTHING if it keeps things moving.

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u/ritokun Aug 07 '26

no company would want to face the backlash of revealing that they won't let their employees not serve nazis, and if the higher ups aren't a company that cares about that and still make you, then they're nazis and you shouldn't work there.