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u/Kirdei 11h ago

What do you mean we're at a point? The concept of an Hourglass Figure being desirable has been around since the 1830s.

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u/Sailfin_CritterMaker 9h ago

That silhouette was achieved with padding. If you cannot see the difference of using padding to achieve a silhouette vs expecting women to change their real bodies to meet that silhouette, damn

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u/nykirnsu 8h ago

The lengths to which people will go to achieve a certain body type is a separate topic from when that particularly body type became popular. That difference was never brought up

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u/ToriiLink 8h ago

Does it matter how it was achieved? I think the end result is the same preference presented.

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u/[deleted] 9h ago

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u/Sailfin_CritterMaker 8h ago

Yeah, corsets are for support. Tight lacing was practiced by some very few women and not a widespread thing or how corsets are actually used. The costume pieces you see at hot topic are nothing like those corsets.

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u/whatevernamedontcare 8h ago

You clearly don't know how they work.

Padding goes inside and outside of corset to create the silhouette. Corset is mostly for support because you can't cinch in that much. It's not magic. Organs and bones still exist when you're wearing a corset.

It's the extra padding that tricks the eye into believing waist is tiny because we only notice difference between waist and hips/chest.

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u/Kirdei 8h ago

Look up Wasp Waist. They would cinch their corsets extremely tight to achieve an extremely narrow waist. It caused all kinds of health problems like deformed ribs, displaced organs, and respiratory issues.

You talk like I'm advocating for this. I'm not. But women throughout history have taken extreme steps in the name of beauty even if it was detrimental to their health.

Lead based makeup, foot binding, toxic eye drops, and arsenic wafers are all examples. You claim it was padding, but Victorian women were very much causing themselves bodily harm through the use of tight cinch corsets.

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u/Sailfin_CritterMaker 8h ago

You parrot scandalized "fun facts" as real history and think yourself superior to people pointing you to the real history. How sad.

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u/whatevernamedontcare 1h ago

I don't know what is more funny your mansplaining or how you believe to be right.

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u/BilingSmob444 8h ago

Have you ever seen a woman?

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u/sadguywithhugedick 8h ago

Before the 1830s, men only liked women with really narrow hips, a fat belly, and extremely broad shoulders

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u/Kirdei 8h ago

And? What does that have to do with this conversation?

OP said it's weird we are at a point where the expectation for body shape is large boobs and butt with a small waist, but that beauty standard cropped up nearly 200 years ago. It's not a sudden change that appeared in the 2020s.

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u/MicheleSanna98 8h ago

I think he (sorry if I assume your gender sadguywithhugedick) is being ironic

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u/Kirdei 7h ago

Yeah, noticed that after I responded. Figured it was just best to move on 😆

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u/sadguywithhugedick 7h ago

I was being a bit sarcastic. The idea that wide hips were invented to be attractive in the 1830s is probably wrong.

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u/Kirdei 7h ago

Invented? Probably not. Was the hourglass figure popularized in the 1830s, yeah.

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u/sadguywithhugedick 6h ago

Oh I think I misunderstood the reason for your response. I thought you were saying that liking wide hips was some relatively recent social construct. I guess the point was that this over stylized version of it was popularized at a certain time period, so this drawing style is nothing new.

My bad brotha. Sorry for being a dick

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u/Kirdei 6h ago

No worries my guy!