So over this series here are a few things I kept my eyes out for and ended up being right about.

Nol dad was a dick to him because of some weird protective nature in him that was complicated, which is true as he loves his son but had to keep distance from him so his wife wouldn’t kill him thinking he was a threat for her son.

Nol fear of tea coming down to some trauma he went through as a child.
His mother committed suicide and it’s all but confirmed that yui gave her tainted tea that messed with her mind maybe drugged it getting her addicted, then took the drugs away which caused her body to go into shock resulting in her suicide.

He was wrongfully put into a mental institution.

His half brother isn’t actually rand biological son.

So there’s this other thing I been keeping my eye out on and that is the fact nol has incredibly bad hand writing.
It was noted by yoo once when she noticed his hand writing was weirdly bad for someone of his age.
Now he had a proper education and he doesn’t have any mental disabilities at least not in learning way,
He is shown to be smart as it’s noted by yoo he pretends to be bad at match but can do complicated problems in his head and Joyce noted how quick he was to adapt to the job.

So it just strikes me as weird that he has bad writing and I do think there is reason behind it but I can’t think of what it could be

Everytime…Hell. NO!

I’m just going to share old fanart until I create new ones.
I hope you enjoy this piece from the movie theater scene!

We see yui is going after yoo dad and we know she has sinister intentions but what could it be ? I don’t think she’s going to try and get him to digest poison like she did with nol mother and I don’t think she’s going to get him to start drinking again cause he has such a strong support system. She’s definitely looking for intel she can use and I think she’s going to try and figure out who yoo mother is and use her connections and wealth to track her down, she will find her and pay off all the loans she owes to the sharks while also paying for her to have a nice life she always wanted, the catch is she has to come back into the yoo family life.

Her very presence will have a deep impact on all 3 members of the family, the father will likely resort back to drinking just to cope.
The sister will also likely panic knowing the mother who abused her will be back and close to her sister and yoo will be put into a situation she is not prepared for.

So I been reading the series and I’m kind of impressed with myself because i figured some things out before the reveals.

Things I got right,

Nolan mother committed suicide but the suicide was questionable.
Tea played a very key role, due to how nol randomly said he doesn’t like it.
And now the latest reveal,

Kousuke is not the biological son of rand and not half brother to nol.

So I believe yui plans are this she was trying to get yoo raped,
It’s safe to say gun Kim is the father of kousuke as he also tends to have a fascination with him and the end goal she is working towards is to have rand killed so kousuke will take over under her control.

hey!
so i’ve downloaded webtoon again after a long long break (3-4y) and i remember that i love yoo was one of my favorite serie at the time, and i wondered if the serie is over yet? at ep258? and also why would i have to wait 3 years to read a chapter??

Okay okay Ik I am gonna get criticised a lot for this post but HEAR ME OUT!!😭😭

I just wanna say that I still love I love yoo and that the psychological aspects absolutely intrigue ms IK it's not a romance and it's a drama first webtoon! And I remember webtoon falsely advertising I love yoo. This is not what this is about.

I think a lot of early I love yoo chapters felt much more....lighter? Yes there were heavy topics right from the start. Even the formal arc was actually quite terrifying and high stakes but I felt like there was definitely room to breath. Even though ILY is a drama first webtoon, it was still mixed with romantic elements. I think this is a solid fact(or else there wouldn't have been such intense ship wars lol😭)

Earlier ILY felt like comedy, drama and romance mixed all in and that's what the audience (atleast most) fell in love with

But recently the topics have been quite heavy and it's being presented repeatedly to the point where I am kind of desensitised. I wish the tone was set from the very beginning. It definitely feels very heavy to read and take in so much information at once. The dialogues are quite heavy and very long, do humans really talk that much at one go? Sometimes it feels kind of exhausting to read a lot of the dialogues (specially if your 1st language is not english😭) I admit I probably skipped a lot of the panels too (oops)😔

And this is not just my critique. I came across a reel that said that they didn't drop ILY bcs of hiatuses, they dropped it because of the genre switch

Now I won't say ILY had a "genre switch" but ILY definitely switched gears a lot and the audience who signed up for the initial story is not a fan of the current story.

It's such a shame bcs Quimchee writes romance in such a way no author can write it and honestly no other romance of other pieces of media have truly made my heart ache like how Shinae and Nol's had. And Quim is a master at comedic stuff too!

Also I am not criticising Quimchee. I love her and I will continue read all of her work. And she has the right to do whatever she wants with her craft. This is just a piece of my mind😭

Sorry if my post seems lackluster. English isn't my first language!

We seen in recent chapters that yoo sister is being paid by kousuke and took 2 grand for payment,
She then used that to pay all her father’s bills and the rest of it to post it to him directly so he could use it to pay for the ski trip.

Does he never question who’s paying all this and why ? Before he thought he paid for his rent while drunk and was blanking out but he’s not drunk anymore so who does he feel is paying for everything.

I’m just 8 chapters left till caught up so I’m just about to be up to date with everyone else.

Now that being said it’s clear there’s going to be 2 parts of this story and 2 major antagonists.

Yui and the Kim’s are this seasons enemy I believe it will end with the full story being revealed and yui will be arrested along with gun and at least 2 of his sons, his youngest son I don’t know if he will be arrested or not and don’t know what the daughter involvement is.
But I imagine when the story is made public yui will be revealed as someone who drugged her son and pushed false reports on nol to the public.
Her involvement with the Kim sex industry as well as all their victims being cleared will become known.

Season 2 I imagine will focus more on yoo mother and the people she owes money to. It’s shown through the sister backstory that she’s involved with the mafia or something and whoever she owes money to will eventually track down yoo and company.

But how long do you think it is till we get to that ? I binged read this series and now that I’m just about caught up I can’t imagine what it’s like for day 1 readers who spent 10 years reading the series just to get to this point.

Now that I am caught up also what should I expect ? Long breaks ? Again I just been bing watching it and about to hit 300 chapters with everyone else but the fact this series is 10 years old I kind of find concerning

I can’t stand watching him acting all confused and harmless all the time as if he isn’t the one in charge
Like ?? Bitch aren’t you the chairman ???? Mf is responsible for everything going on in this company and lets his wife terrorize the shit out of his son and drug the other while women are getting abused right under his nose ??
If that’s for then publishing a statement when a rapist in your corp gets arrested and say « that does not reflect the company’s moral » BITCH STFU you saw it all happen and did nothing

Even right now ppl might argue that he’s playing long term but from what i can see Yu Jing is doing all the work for his ass
And he even has the nerve to ask help to a teenager ??

Ykw ? The chessgame allegory could not be more realistic bc if his wife is a white queen who has all the best moves his bitch ass is the BEST representation of a King : most vulnerable and at the end of the day weakest piece and has everyone doing all the work for him while he’s somehow supposed to be the most important one

Omg I feel like im cooking something with this but I might just be sleep deprived im in France it’s 2:35 am as im writting this, really hope it can make sense for those who read me
Yall can develop or argue with me im very passionate about my point rn

I was expecting to read a couple of theories that were posted here yesterday or before yesterday but now they are gone. What happened? It was about Nana's past and it was very interesting but I hadn't time to read it. Were they deleted? Why?

Sang-Chul Diss edit lol

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Quim is in LA at the Webtoon office from the 14th - 25th so there won’t be episodes for the next two weeks. She said she might be able to get at least one episode out, but if not she will post sketches and illustrations on Patreon. Just thought people might be wondering!

There’s a scene in the story when nol is talking to his nana who tells him she will break his legs to keep him in place if she has to. He also tells him that she broke a leg while in prison.
It was such a brief comment and they moved on but it says she went to jail at some point in her life.
I didn’t know if she was joking or not.

Then we learned she came from Ireland. I just made a post about the situation of Ireland during that time period.

Now I caught something interesting.
Nora directs yoo to her wall of pictures and we see one picture stand out.
It’s Nora with a gun.

Now during the time period she lived ( 1960s/70s ) in and the area she lived in ( Northern Ireland )

It is more than likely she was part of the armed militia group known as the Irish Republican Army.
Likely her husband wasn’t a peaceful protestor but an Ira solider who was killed by British soldiers.

I knew she had a complicated story but damn.

Now war criminal is an exaggeration but it’s good for views.

She likely went to jail in her 20s for attacking someone and breaking their legs.
She got out and continued her life.

So I am at the part where Nora ( granny ) gives yoo her backstory.

TLDR AT END

The story does a fine job but I feel out of context some might not get it. As I am from Ireland the same country Nora and Yeong gi are from I can provide deeper context.
I wont go over everything cause I’m not going to write an essay so feel free to do your own research but this is just a brief summary.

Nora is 73 in the story and I love yoo came out 10 years ago, so while the inverse story the years are always 20xx or 20xy etc it’s likely this series takes place in 2016 logically.
So she would be 83 now, this would mean she was in her 20s in Ireland in the 1960s

Now she mentions moving up north, for context Ireland is split into 2 parts there’s the Republic of Ireland formed officially in 1949 before that it was the constitution of Ireland 1937- 1949 before that it was the free state of Ireland 1922- 1937.
Before that we were just Ireland under British rule.

When Ireland became a free state all countries of Ireland joined except 6 in the north of Ireland which became Northern Ireland.

Between its creation Northern Ireland was split into 2 fractions.
There were the Green catholic republicans who rejected the state of Northern Ireland and saw themselves as Irish against British rule.
And the orange Protestant unionists who saw themselves as British.

During that time period being catholic was heavily discriminated against which goes along with what Nora said on how she found it difficult to find a work due to religious reasons.
Now she said when she was born she was given to the church which was a common thing.

Back then mothers who had children out of wedlock were heavily discriminated against and shunned by society and families, a lot of newborns were given to the church.
There is a lot of controversies around this that affect a lot of people, nearly every Irish family today will have some story about the church. My mother for instance who is 70 was raised by her grandmother and there were instances where members of the church showed up to try and take my mother but my great nan didn’t allow them and chased them off as she knew the dark stories of what life is like there.

While Ireland is a catholic country today we still have a strained relationship with the Catholic Church and has since moved to a more separation between church and state.
So that is why Nora was raised by the church as she was likely born from wedlock.

Now Northern Ireland 1960s was a tricky situation as that is the official start of “ the troubles”. The troubles is a time period where tension between the catholic republicans and British Protestants were at the highest.
Though it was long before the 60s when this started.

Civil rights movements started up for catholics seeking equal rights.
Terrorist groups like the IRA rose up fighting British soldiers and the British version called the Ulster volunteer force leading to deaths on both sides.

In 1969 peaceful protests turned to riots leading to British soldiers opening fires.
The worst being Bloody Sunday 1972 when British soldiers opened fire on a protest killing 13 people.

The troubles ended with the Good Friday agreement 1998.

So tldr.

Nora would have been born around 1943 give or take.
Been in her 20s in the 1960s and 30s in the 1970s ( the time period she said her friends moved away )
Nora was raised by the church after her parents gave her up.
This was common in Ireland for out of wedlock children during that period.
She moved to the north in 1960s met her to be husband, they became activist during a time period known as the troubles.
Her husband was killed in one of the protests likely killed by unionist terrorist. The uvf or British soldiers.

So that is a brief summary of what is more than likely what Nora lived through when she was young.

The story provides a brief glimpse and credit to the author as a Korean who knew enough of Irish history to know how Nora likely didn’t have an easy life back then.

The story Nora described to yoo is sadly a very relatable story someone from her generation would know.
So there you are for those of you who would be interested in knowing more about Nora.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles

Bonjour,

Je viens tout juste d'apprendre le retour de ma série préférée en anglais. Mais comme je la lisais en français savez-vous si Webtoon prévoit de reprendre la traduction FR ?

What if in her own messed up way, Yui has decided to take revenge AGAINST the Hirahara legacy and that's exactly why she’s in league with the Kims?

Yui is a Hirahara by blood, but as a woman, she was told she could never hold the power. The Chairman just handed the reins to Rand purely because of the patriarchy (It was finally revealed that he was former CFO before his promotion). If Kousuke is a Kim (half Korean/Japanese), it further confirms why Yui and Rand’s marriage is so transactional. Rand is basically just a placeholder. A useful puppet for her dad's sexism. While Yui is quietly and desperately plotting a real bloodline takeover right under all their noses.

We know she was abused/neglected by her dad, SA’d, forced into an arranged marriage of convenience, and had a child shortly thereafter. What if she decided that instead of just accepting her fate, she’d take revenge against her father by putting Kousuke on the “throne” specifically as a KIM? That makes her "alliance" with them make SO much sense. Her connection to them has always been shady and overly familiar. If they share a secret (Kousuke is actually one of them) it totally explains the leverage and the unspoken power dynamics happening in the background of all those high-society dinners/parties.

That would be the NASTIEST chess move. The former Chairman thinks he won by keeping the company out of a “mentally unstable” woman’s hands, and Yui basically says "Fine. You want a male heir? I'll give you a male heir to be proud of." (Mother Gothel iykyk) Because if Kousuke is technically a Kim from his biological father’s side (meaning he's the direct blood of Gun’s father aka making them half-brothers) it would be, ironically, the biggest "FU" to the Hirahara name. (sheesh I am getting Apothecary Diaries family tree flashbacks)

Making him CFO and eventually CEO would actually be the perfect way to keep his true identity hidden. The best way to conceal that is to make him the most visible Hirahara possible. Everyone sees him as the legitimate heir, so nobody has a reason to question the bloodline underneath the public identity.

BUT ALSO, I feel like this is a "two-birds-with-one-stone" level of malice. Where Yui isn't just targeting her side of the family but keeping the Kims on a tight leash. Perhaps letting them think they are the masterminds involved in taking over the company (hence Gun's grin after hearing about Koutaro's heart attack) when it's actually Yui who holds all the cards. ("Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.")

And that's what makes Kousuke such powerful leverage. Neither side can safely expose the secret. If/when the Kims find out (if they haven't already), they could also expose the circumstances of his conception. And in doing so, potentially make Yui's and Gun's past of SA (as well as those of other women who were forced to keep their mouths shut, like Alyssa's) impossible to dismiss. The same secret that could destroy Yui could implicate the Kims and the Hirahara family in something far uglier.

She’s weaponizing her own trauma to poison her father’s precious legacy (literally and figuratively). She gets to watch the men who oppressed her praise an heir that is actually a fraud. A mockery to her father that “I bested you and you can do nothing about it.”

What if it later occurred to her that it needed to be a decades-long revenge plot to destroy the Hirahara purity from the inside out (AND have everyone suffer the reality she experienced)?! With her AND ONLY HER truly on top? Thoughts??

I get her manipulating her family, I get her wanting to hurt yeong gi as he’s a constant reminder of her husband affair.

I don’t get why she is obsessed with yoo so much

Something I don’t get, when nol and kousuke are in the hospital after kousuke is out and we realise she’s been drugging him this whole time she gets a phone call saying nol isn’t going to jail for 3 days.

She says thanks “dad”. And when she hangs up we see the name on the phone is the same name that this family has.

So was she talking to her dad or father in law ?

Did the dad take her name ?
Does she just call her father in law dad ?

At the Christmas party after nol is pushed off the balcony he goes to leave and yu jing gives him his shoes. He gets up and she tells him to watch it and slaps him as he apologises.

First how did she get his shoes, he climbed over the wall on the 2nd landing and was never downstairs.
Second what did he do ? It feels like there is a missing scene.

I imagine he accidentally looked up her dress given their positioning but it just looks like he was putting on shoes then she slaps him.

First things first, I love ILY. However, now I am waiting for the break. Quimchee said we are close to the season's final and at that time I made math. I was pretty sure that on Thursday 10 (yesterday) the webtoom was supposed to end with the last chapter. Nevertheless, I did not count the weeks where quimchee did not post chapters so that is when I got confused about the dates. Now, I know we are too close, so does anyone know when we are going to get the last chapter? When is the break? When is the time skip? How long is going to be this break? It will be months? Years? (I said this because once it was about 2 years of breaking more or less). That's all. Thank you 🫶

...But now I'm pretty sure I'm onto something, I had been noticing for a while that despite there has been several episodes focused on Kousuke, that the top comments in webtoon were either all about other characters ( cough Nol cough), or just general reactions, and I noticed even more that comment that tend to talk about Kousuke in a sympathetic light, have way too many downvotes, and this always happens when the episodes become free to the public, not even the ones you can read with ads, but the ones who are fully free, I had a couple comments all talking about Kousuke that were like nothing in terms of likes, only 3 or 4 at most, and then tonight that the episode was made free, suddenly all these comments have like ten or a dozen of downvotes,

Lol, this is super funny to me 🤣🤣🤣

These people have spent so much time hating on Kousuke, convinced that he was Yui's henchman, and now that all of us truthers who always noticed their fucked-up relationship have been proved right, now they are just being petty and dumb 😂😂

EDIT: since I have blocked every annoying person in the comments, I honestly have zero idea what the hell is happening, and I prefer to keep it that way, the fact that some of them deleted their original comments it's kind of telling of the type of people they are, and if anything at least I got to trim the people I have to interact with in this sub, so cheers to that 🍻

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