To be fair, 3 inches over the line can be the amount it takes to prevent someone deploying a wheelchair ramp from the back of a van. Any infringement of a handicap accessible parking spot is disabling. No matter how rushed or pressed you are, it's a dick move and the fine should have stood.
Let's agree to disagree. I think common sense should be applied in life.
a 430$ ticket while no one is using the space and while multiple space are vacant during the middle of the night seem very unneeded and mostly a way for the government to racket money.
Dude when people are out here getting away with rape and murder, I think we got bigger fish to fry than tracking down every person who gets away with an honest mistake.
Fines are meant to serve as deterrents. This means society wants to prevent people from being hurt in the first place. Society does not want to wait until things have actually gone wrong before addressing an issue, preventative measures are proven to be far more effective than punitive punishment at preventing harm.
That’s definitely not true. A shitload of legislation is from actual past events. Banks used to fail regularly. People used to shit in the streets. Kids were allowed to work. Breaks weren’t mandatory. Slavery was legal. People used to block streets by parking their carriages and cars with no regard for anyone else. Personal vehicles for the masses is a relatively new concept for humanity and a lot of the regulation came about from how the first people handled them.
That’s the beauty of parking violations. You don’t need to track them down. They’re in plain view. Are you suggesting we allow anyone to park anywhere without consequence?
Is it a power trip? Someone violated a parking law and got a ticket for it. They didn’t get towed, arrested, or have their license suspended. Should it be $430? Maybe not, but look at what happened. The friend went to court and paid a fraction of the original ticket.
I feel like the main issue is that 430 is such an absurd amounth that if you are not someone wealthy, it can cripple you financially so you end up going to court for it.
I feel like it should have been 200 max or if 430, at least make it proportional to the extend of what they block. Like. If you block 3 inch out of a 10 feet parking, maybe get 25% of the ticket or something as a minimum? Like. 430 is absurd.
There is a reason even the judge felt like it was absurd.
I agree with you here. The key issue here is the excessive fine or reckless disregard of proportionality that makes the ticket ethically questionable. The fine amount arguably exceeded the level of deterrence by couple numerical factors (like 2 or 3).
The other folks arguing about justification of the ticket is a classic strawman fallacy focusing on the unrelated question of what constitute an event of violation of law and how history led up to their definition.
Disabled or elderly. Being elderly doesn’t give you automatic rights to use a disabled parking space, but there’s a high correlation between those who are elderly and qualify for a disabled parking permit (blue badge).
Anything that isnt able-ist is an insult to those that arnt. Regardless what word is used. I like saying the r word, but in real life not on reddit, or i risk a ban. I just call people here slow or handicapped, disabled, or w*men.
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u/ToothySeagull 5d ago
To be fair, 3 inches over the line can be the amount it takes to prevent someone deploying a wheelchair ramp from the back of a van. Any infringement of a handicap accessible parking spot is disabling. No matter how rushed or pressed you are, it's a dick move and the fine should have stood.