r/lovethissmug • • Aug 10 '26

😻 Meme Or Other Online Trope šŸ˜‚ when people randomly say philosophical stuff

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u/Ruler_of_Tempest Aug 10 '26

The answer is choice btw

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u/bananasaucecer Aug 10 '26

or Change

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u/DB_Valentine Aug 10 '26

Its also rough though, because people could change without saying they did, and people could claim for change without actually making it. I know this is somewhat a nonsequitor, but I would argue it's still an important discussion to be had, for what point is analyzing the nature as people, if not to communicate what applies to whom? But then also who are we to apply something like good or evil to someone when we can never truly be certain of quite what their intention is?

I shit my pants

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u/MagicJoshByGosh Aug 10 '26

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u/DB_Valentine Aug 10 '26

There's nothing fun about this fuck off it's awful

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u/LunarSDX Aug 10 '26

Bro threw in an awful fact

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u/DB_Valentine Aug 10 '26

If God were in his heaven, all would be alright with the world. Instead, he resides in the words of men and women who seek to use his names for their own selfish reasons.

If there is a God, I have no doubt our creation has resulted in nothing but disappointment.

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u/Falleneded Aug 10 '26

the choice to change if you will

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u/bananasaucecer Aug 10 '26

change happens even without our consent. how we choose to react and act is something else.

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u/Testicle_Tugger Aug 11 '26

I don’t know how a couple Pennies separates good and bad but ok buddy

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u/PressureNo7699 Aug 10 '26

Some people don't get to have the choice

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u/Haunting_Ask2364 Aug 10 '26

Then their badness depends on what they would do if they had oneĀ 

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u/Haunting_Ask2364 Aug 10 '26

tldr; Spamton is probably not evil

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u/Neat_Document_4608 Aug 10 '26

Spamtong is definitely evil 😭

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u/Angelfire_zeze Aug 10 '26

He's not evil but he's definitely not great either. He's a slimy sleazy selfish little freak but that's mostly out of self preservation and an Icarus like ambition. He has the capacity to change for the better ((don't ask about weird route))

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u/Neat_Document_4608 Aug 10 '26

Nonono we're absolutely gonna ask about weird route. He gave you the ring with the KNOWLEDGE that youw were going to kill people with it, specifically for his own selfish gain. The only reason he didn't give you the ring in the normal route is because he circumstances were different. He's still the same guy, he would've done the same thing.

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u/Angelfire_zeze Aug 10 '26

Really? He had plenty of opportunities to give us the ring in the normal route but he just didn't. Unless it was specifically for Noelle.

Wait do we even know why/how he had that thing?

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u/Neat_Document_4608 Aug 10 '26

He sees Kris and Noelle going out of their way to freeze everyone and says "hey, if I give them this ring then they can use it to kill the people guarding the basement so I can take over." He doesn't do it in the regular route because we're not strong enough. Also idk how he has it might just be one of those Spamton things.

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u/Angelfire_zeze Aug 10 '26

Thank you for taking the time to explain friend šŸ«‚šŸ«‚šŸ«‚ I appreciate it a lot

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u/International-Bar918 Aug 10 '26

That doesn’t negate what was said, if someone does something bad because they must, does that make them bad

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u/nekosissyboi Aug 10 '26

bernard williams ahhh response

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u/Samyazassock Aug 10 '26

Everyone who is bad has a choice. Doing something "bad" because you're forced to for example does not make you bad.

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u/Tom_F_0olery Aug 10 '26

What leads to that choice though? We make choices based on our personality, but in the end what determines that is either our upbringing, our genetics, or our previous choices (which eventually goes back to one of the first 2 options). If all that determines whether a person makes good or bad choices depends on factors out of their control, do good or bad people actually exist? In my opinion the answer is no

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u/WileyCoyokic Aug 10 '26

Building off what you stated, I recall a headline from a study claiming that 95% of choices are made subconsciously. Subconscious basically coming down to nature and nurture’s effect on your present emotional state. I find that humans having on average ~95% free will fascinating.

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u/Tom_F_0olery Aug 10 '26

I would argue there’s no choice that doesn’t come down to nature or nurture. When you think of choices as our brain processing information then making a decision, then it becomes clearer that how it processes information must be based on nature or nurture

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u/WileyCoyokic Aug 15 '26

Yeah you can argue how nature and nurture impact conscious decisions as well and you have a good argument. The whole topic of what ā€œfreedomā€ means can be a whole other debate which I won’t get into

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u/JoaquiGod Aug 10 '26

Funny that the translation to spanish is "The answer is option A or option B"

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u/Stergeary Aug 10 '26

Choice is the illusion from believing that the will is free.

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u/Caesarsalad1882 Aug 10 '26

nailed it! bravo!

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u/Blue_nose_2356 Aug 10 '26

Timshel, thou mayest :)

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u/oth_breaker Aug 10 '26

I'd say its people

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u/haveananus Aug 10 '26

Which is an illusion, so now we’re back at the start.