From various chapters in Jerusalem.

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What are the Builders hiding!?

If you started on Oct1 and read one chapter per week you would be able to finish [[Go See Now This Cursed Woman]] on may26th (a Tuesday this year).

I am listening to the audiobook again and will make time to share my notes, fingers crossed on pulling all the way through.

... change his physical age, so he could go into the pub without being recognised? The need to recruit Tom Hall was right after he'd seen Phyllis and John appear as 20ish year olds, so the idea should be there for at least those three?

Welcome to the Week eighteen of my (our) re-read of Jerusalem!

This will be SPOILER HEAVY so tread with caution if this is your fist time. I shall try my best to keep the spoilers from future chapters below the line but I am a flawed human and will miss stuff.

I cannot promise to be more inciteful than the fine folks at "Annotations for Jerusalem" so check out their notes here

Chapter 18: Mental Fights

In this chapter two Angels have a bust up.

Some particular images that struck me:

The ghost suicide bomber, when Moore began writing the book the threat of theses bombers was high in the UK and Europe, it makes sense they would be on his mind.

The green, bird like stilt walker, this is a character from The Voice of the Fire.

I feel like I have less to say about these more surreal chapters, that is not because I am not enjoying them, but I find the more grounded chapters easier to discuss and also more emotional.

Annotations for Jerusalem also seems to have lost steam by now, most discussion relegated to the comments.

Next chapter takes us to Cromwell.

Welcome to the Week seventeen of my (our) re-read of Jerusalem!

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I cannot promise to be more inciteful than the fine folks at "Annotations for Jerusalem" so check out their notes here

Chapter 17: Flatland

In this chapter Reggie explains the afterlife to us.

As prophesied by the title this chapter gives us another chunk of flatland theory which is coupled with Reggie's explanation of the lower end of ghostly society and their optional ascension to the upper realms.

The other big part of this chapter is The Destructor and it's implicit influence on the people it interacts with. We have seen it's influence at a few points in book one, bringing down the mood of those that pass through it's space, and having worse effects on those, like Marla, who live there.

I think I have, a small issue with the book that I hadn't considered on previous reads, The Destructor is described as being incredibly dangerous to ghosts who get too close but this is a chekhov's gun that never goes off. This is similar to Asmodeus' caution around using his true name, to avoid being bound, something that never comes up again. I suppose dropped threads like this are inevitable in a book this size but Asmodeus and the Destructor are so central to the plot that I wonder why they aren't used in the way that they are hinted they might be.

That said, this was a good chapter Reggie is good fun.

Welcome to the Week sixteen of my (our) re-read of Jerusalem!

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I cannot promise to be more inciteful than the fine folks at "Annotations for Jerusalem" so check out their notes here

Chapter 16 The Scarlet Well

In this chapter the kids explore the Ghost Seam

Spoilers below:

Sorry for the delay, I was massively jetlagged.

This is a fun but of worldbuilding as Michael explores the Ghost Seam for the first time, Moore is establishing the rules for later, as well as traumatising little Michael with the idea of time passing.

Once again we are dancing around Audrey and the house on Scarlet well street with it's Jacob Flight.

A lot of the basic rules established in this chapter will be important in the end, especially regarding Freddy and the car crash. Things like the appearance of ghosts, who can see them and what they can pass through.

I read The Great When while I was away, mixed feelings though I'm still processing it. Many of the same themes appear as in Jerusalem including some repeated metaphors and similes. Devastating ending, hopefully a bluff.

Welcome to the Week fifteen of my (our) re-read of Jerusalem!

This will be SPOILER HEAVY so tread with caution if this is your fist time. I shall try my best to keep the spoilers from future chapters below the line but I am a flawed human and will miss stuff.

I cannot promise to be more inciteful than the fine folks at "Annotations for Jerusalem" so check out their notes here

Chapter 15 Rabbits

In this chapter we get some Phyllis backstory and meet the Dead Dead Gang

Spoilers below:

This might be a strange observation but the repeated use of the words "carpet remnant" reminded me of "Carpet Remnant World" a show by Steward Lee. Moore and Lee know each other and the show predates the publication of Jerusalem. Might not be a real connection.

The Dead Dead gang are the archetypal gang of kids (explicitly in the text) the Famous Five etc.

I wonder how many readers give up at this point, now that it is clear that book 2 is more of a fantasy novel, so different from book 1.

Looking forward to entering the Ghost Seam.

I'm on holiday for a couple of weeks so wont be posting again till the week of the 24th

Welcome to the Week fourteen of my (our) re-read of Jerusalem!

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I cannot promise to be more inciteful than the fine folks at "Annotations for Jerusalem" so check out their notes here

Chapter 14: Upstairs

In this chapter little Michael Warren receives an education, and a quest.

Spoilers below:

I think it's interesting that, considering the extent to which Asmodeus avoids using real name (to avoid being bound) that this never comes up again. it seems like a setup for Mick or the Dead Dead Gang managed to bind Asmodeus later in the story, but this never happens.

This chapter sets up the core thread of Michael's journey, he had to kill a man to repay Asmodeus, that man is of course the villain who rapes Marla but Michael isn't to know that. Asmodeus is working towards good ends, saving Marla who will go on to become a saint but he is cast in the role of a villain so his methods and attitude are villainous.

Finally it is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE for Michael to remember his experience (then Asmodeus lists a few examples of people who did remember) so we (the audience) understand that older Mick's visions are special and significant.

Welcome to the Week thirteen of my (our) re-read of Jerusalem!

This will be SPOILER HEAVY so tread with caution if this is your fist time. I shall try my best to keep the spoilers from future chapters below the line but I am a flawed human and will miss stuff.

I cannot promise to be more inciteful than the fine folks at "Annotations for Jerusalem" so check out their notes here

Chapter 13: Upstairs

Book 2! In this chapter little Michael meets Phyllis and enters the Attics of the Breath

Spoilers below:

There's a lot to digest here

We get another dose of flatland, this time imagining higher dimensions rather than lower ones.

Michaels thoughts and senses seem to unfold in the same manner as Angle Language.

The loosey lips tense free language wis fun.

Phyllis and Michael don't know each other in life, she being several decade his senior but they do meet in passing at Alma's show, I bet they have a laugh about that in the future when Mick is dead again.

Asmodeus, aka Sam O Day, aka ash moses is presented as almost Santa like, the beard, the red and green and his general mirth. I wonder if he is another stand in for Moore?

Here's so many great sentences in this chapter, Moore is really going wild.

Welcome to the Week seven of my (our) re-read of Jerusalem!

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I cannot promise to be more inciteful than the fine folks at "Annotations for Jerusalem" so check out their notes here

Chapter 12: Choking on a Tune

In this chapter Mick has an accident and remembers dying

Spoilers below:

So here we are, the end of book one, Mick's childhood death, unlikely revival and the vision that inspired Alma's exhibition (which is essentially this book in another format).

This chapter brings us right up to date with the state of Northampton and the Warren clan today (2005) We get the narrative of both Micks 2005 accident and his childhood near death experience.

Adult Micks accident is due to the ghost kids stripping the warning sticker from the chemical barrel, they do this deliberately as it is the only way they can thing to interact with him and trigger the recovery of his memories of the afterlife.

Descriptions of the homes upstairs and garden by night as a spooky, haunted place obviously more true than he realises.

As young Mick loses consciousness we get a glimpse of Mansoul wordplay as he looks up at the clouds.

I thought this chapter was very funny, full of amusing one liners and absurd characters (mostly Alma) but in a grounded relatable way.

Destructor, Destructor, Destructor.

Welcome to the Week seven of my (our) re-read of Jerusalem!

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I cannot promise to be more inciteful than the fine folks at "Annotations for Jerusalem" so check out their notes here

Chapter 11: Hark! The Glad Sound!

In this chapter Alma (Alan Moore) is born

Spoilers below:

This chapter is a bit of a broader snapshot of post war poverty, overcrowded houses, kids in wardrobe drawers.

Tommy was instructed in mathematics by Snowy, do we ever get any references to Tommy passing on anything like this to Alma or Mick? Obviously he raised them but I'm not sure if we get direct references to Alma and Mick receiving the diluted wisdom of Ginger.

Tommy's thoughts about his uncle Johnny are ominous, though he is thinking about how he likes him he muses that he is "keen to get on with a new life" which of course evokes the yet to be built New Life towers that are so hated by the next generation and also, perhaps thins is a stretch but "keen to get on with a new life" could be seen as an unintentional euphemism for how he abuses his child.

I need to go out so will add more thoughts in the comments later!

Welcome to the Week seven of my (our) re-read of Jerusalem!

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I cannot promise to be more inciteful than the fine folks at "Annotations for Jerusalem" so check out their notes here

Chapter 10: The Breeze That Plucks Her Apron

In this chapter May Vernall has a lovely baby girl...

Spoilers below:

Ok so, Deathmongers, part midwife, part mortician, and 100% a witch.

The Deathmonger is based solidly in real, recent history women like this were a fact of life not too long ago and even within my grandparents generation it was more common for this kind of work to be done casually by neighbors. My own grandmother used to get involved with "laying out the body" when someone died. Much less common today but not unheard of.

The name Deathmonger is, I think an invention by Moore. He does a good job of making it seem like a real term and I think I saw an interview once where he implied it wasn't his invention but I can find no reference to the word online that doesn't link back to a Moore quote. Perhaps it was a real hyper local term but I would expect it to turn up somewhere else if so.

I think it is interesting that we don't see much of May again after this, she is so important and central to the lineage. I suppose she does not appear in book two because Mick is specifically not greeted by any relatives. Instead we get Mrs. Gibbs as a friendly face in the afterlife.

This is true of many of the character in the Vernal/Warren clan, I'd love to know more about Thursa, she has no dialogue in the whole book as far as I recall but is clearly up to something, Snowy and Little May get to have an adventure in the afterlife but where is Ginger, Thursa et al?

We get some foreshadowing of Johnny, now entering his dirty "phase".

As previously noted, May's self doubts and fears are a reflection of Marla's a few decades later. II also believe that some of May's sense of ill ease is due to the spectral presence of the soon to be Destructor.

May becomes one of the last generation of Deathmongers, it would have been nice to see her perspective on this change as she ages but I guess nobody wants this book to be longer haha.

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Chapter 9: Do as You Darn Well Pleasey

In this chapter Louisa Vernall gives birth to May, meanwhile Snowy watches from the rooftop and waxes pholosophical.

Spoilers below:

Not sure I have as much to say about this one, though I think Moore did some beautiful writing here.

Snowy is the connective tissue between the various generations, he will not be super significant himself but the people around him are at the center of everything (he is at the center of the torus?) His daughter, sister and father are all touched by the "corneryness" that afflicts the family.

As pointed out in the comments on "readers of Jerusalem" the theatrical woman who helps with the birth could be Charlie Chaplains mother, being as she is in the right place, time and state of pregnancy.

As well as showing us the birth of May, making the following chapter more painful, this chapter serves to foreshadow and explain the Destructor.

“Nomen est omen” – Literally “The name is the omen.” - I feel like this may be more important later...

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Chapter 8: Atlantis

In this chapter Benedict Perrit (53) a drunken unemployed poet who hasn't written anything for since his 30's battles for his soul.

Spoilers below:

I loved this chapter

Ben is grieving for his sister, his father, his marriage, his culture and his art.

Taking us on an amusing walking tour of several of Northamptons pubs, Ben is poised to either slip into a final depression from which he will never emerge or to find his creative spark once more and be saved.

We brush against a few other characters on this walk, including:

-Marla (another lapsed creative, down on their luck)

-Alma (childhood friend and now a successful mirror to himself)

-James Cockie (in a dream but also in one of the pubs Ben forgets visiting)

-Freddy Allen (not mentioned on the page but we see Ben on this night later from another perspective)

-The man Asmodeus wants dead (is the person in the car wreck)

Much like the previous chapter, we end on a cliffhanger regarding the salvation of the POV. Henry had his faith in organised religion shaken, Ben had had his faith in himself shaken. Will he write again or will he have "a dimension shaved off his soul"?

There was a moment when Ben (drunk) noticed a small and strange flower growing in a crack. Has he glimpsed a pucks hat?

We don't see much more of Ben, though his father does turn up in the Ghost Seam. We will meet him again with Freddy, Cockie and the kids, then once more at Alma's exhibition, where it appears he HAS written something and therefore, I hope, secured himself a more cheerful afterlife than he would otherwise have had.

Welcome to the Week seven of my (our) re-read of Jerusalem!

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I cannot promise to be more inciteful than the fine folks at "Annotations for Jerusalem" so check out their notes here

Chapter 7: Blind, but Now I See

In this chapter Henry George goes for a bike ride collecting scrap and discovers an uncomfortable truth.

Spoilers below:

I suppose the theme of this chapter is how people aren't always what they present themselves as being. The main comparison being between Buffalo Bill and John Newton.

Something that had previously been confusing me about this book, given that it is a love letter to Northampton was the significant page space spent on London and specifically Lambeth. I realised however during this chapter that the Warrens origins outside of Northampton serve to make them immigrants to the town (just like Henry George) rather than having somehow always having been there.

My point is that characters are not split into the recent and ancient occupants of Northampton, they all come from families who moved there. Perhaps this is obvious but I think Moore is deliberately side stepping the ideal of a "mythic local folk" from which Henry might be excluded. All the characters are equally Northamptonites.

The phrase "gossip of the trees" reminded me of the song "whispering grass" and the line "the trees don't need to know, relevant later. Some connection about hidden truths?

Henry's story and his revelation about Newton is devastating, especially given that we leave him at the end of this chapter with his happy ending in jeopardy. I wonder if his many appearances within the Ghost Seam show that he has gained an enduring suspicion of religious authorities that persists after death and stops him from going upstairs? I would like to think he eventually makes it to Mansoul and beyond.

Hope everyone had a happy christmas!

Annotated Notes for this week's chapter

This chapter's POV character is Oatsie Chaplin, a stage performer who we find smoking outside The Palace of Varieties on the corner of Gold st. and Horseshoe st. He muses about life, the cycle of poverty, fate, and the new century while he waits out the clock before his next show. He bumps into May & little May, and Henry George who we will follow next week.

Welcome to the Week five of my (our) re-read of Jerusalem!

This will be SPOILER HEAVY so tread with caution if this is your fist time. I shall try my best to keep the spoilers from future chapters below the line but I am a flawed human and will miss stuff.

I cannot promise to be more inciteful than the fine folks at "Annotations for Jerusalem" so check out their notes here

Chapter 5: X Marks the Spot

In this chapter Peter walks to Northampton and dies.

Spoilers below:

Peter aka Aegburth aka Le Canal is a monk returning home from Jerusalem, but first he must deliver a cross to the centre of Northampton.

Much of Peter's walk felt like an excuse for Moore to discuss local archeology, I presume the earthworks, various ditches and walls he mentions are pulled directly from local history.

Before crossing the threshold of the town Peter has a dream encounter with a strange old woman, I have seen it suggested that this woman is the sacrifice buried under the foundations of the bridge in "Hobs Hog" in "Voice of the Fire", this may be the case but she is certainly the Nene Hag (with her snail eyes), who we shall meet again in book 2.

Peter's musings on the silent croft house make me wonder if he is passing the future location of the Destructor, he dwells on his own death and somehow has notions of the nature of the Ghost Seam.

I really enjoyed Peters revelation at the Scarlet Well, first believing it is full of blood, then realising the truth, then perceiving some symbolic meaning while also comically referring to himself as a "prickhead" (dickhead).

Peter intercedes on an apparent child abduction, violence against women is a core theme of the book and between Peter and Freddy we have two very different perspectives.

Meeting Freddy Allen, in mirror to their meeting last chapter, I wonder why Peter can see Freddy. He is certainly sane and not intoxicated, perhaps his encounter with an Angel in Jerusalem has made him more perceptive or perhaps it is because he is soon to die himself.

"He knew that he had once, or many times before, arrived here to find nothing. He was ever in the action of arriving and finding nothing" Is this his worry, or perhaps a glimpse of his existence in the afterlife?

The beating in Peter's ears both Heart attack and Angelic wingbeats was quite a powerful image

I suppose this angelic storm is the same as the one Ginger experiences centuries later, "for lightnings mark our transit"

Peter glimpses the little people upstairs, presumably his relatives.

OMG he said the title!

Welcome to the Week 4 of my (our) re-read of Jerusalem!

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Chapter 4: Rough Sleepers

In this chapter Freddie Allen visits old friends.

Spoilers below:

I would love to how how quickly most readers realise that Freddie is dead. Somewhere in the first third or later perhaps?

Freddie's conversation with Mary Jane is full of is full of arch references to the fact that they are both dead, by the end of the chapter all the pretense is gone and it is clear to the reader that we are reading a ghost story.

I enjoyed the wordplay about him saying goodbye to the barmaid and exiting through the door out of habit. Phrased to imply he is saying goodbye out of habit but it is actually his use of the door.

This chapter is setting us up with a basic overview of the first layer of the afterlife, souls who for various reasons trap themselves in the Ghost Seam, live greyscale lives either re-living their lived experiences or interacting with other souls. We also hear a lot of names that will come up later, Phillis Painter and Fiery Phil for example.

The Chapter also sets up Freddie as one of the key moving pieces in the plot, Freddie will, eventually save Marla and kill her assailant, fulfilling Michael's debt with Asmodeus.

Freddie is trapped by his guilt, for the rape he once considered committing, unable to allow himself to move on and up to the higher levels of the afterlife.

Freddie meets the late medieval/early renaissance Monk from next chapter, giving him coincidentally correct directions to "the centre".

He also sees the Salamander sisters.

Freddie's visits to Georgie Bumble and Patsy Clarke are a source of lots of ghost lore, how they interact with time and each other.

Freddie's unnamed friend is Audrey Vernal, presumably the photo she shows him is from her time in the asylum and the man who visits her begging her forgiveness is (the ghost of) her father who sexually abused her and had her incarcerated.

I'd like to have a conversation about Pucks Hats, they are a fun detail and reoccur a lot throughout the book but I wonder if I am missing some context or a clever reference. Are they just a fun fantasy element? Plants native to the Ghost Seam they are in a sense like to Angels and Demons, lifeforms that exist natively outside the "first borough"

I believe next week we will have our first Voice of the Fire reference, but if I have missed one please let me know!

Welcome to the Week 3 of my (our) re-read of Jerusalem!

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I cannot promise to be more inciteful than the fine folks at "Annotations for Jerusalem" so check out their notes here

Chapter 3: ASBOs of Desire.

In this chapter Marla Roberta Stiles reminisces on better and worse times, looks for drugs, misplaces some books then goes out on the game, setting the board for much of the later plot.

Spoilers below:

Once again I am going to begin my chapter run through by comparing Marla to Benedict (who she will meet later in the chapter) They both consider themselves to be creatives and have both neglected this aspect of their lives, they have more in common than they realise in their brief meeting. There are also parallels with Alma, noted by Marla herself.

I found this chapter to be harder going than the others so far, having grown up myself not too far from Northampton during these years I feel like I know Marla. We could have gone to school together.

Moore's use of provocative language (often racist) in this chapter achieves it's desired effect of making Marla's life a difficult, spikey read, Marla is unlikable yet sympathetic, she clearly needs help but I feel bad for her neighbors.

I think we are supposed to roll our eyes at her overblown opinion of her own "art", a simple child's collage that she clings to as a kind of salvation, funny thing is I think if she actually did take it to Alma's show I think she would have been well received by Alma.

Marla's fixation on Princess Dianna and Jack the ripper are quite on the nose of course. It is worth noting here that there was no "break in" she simply forgot where she put her books.

Marla has a broken connection to Mansoul (presumably due to the drug use) she is no longer able to dream, and no longer creates art, two of the more usual ways humans interact with the higher dimensions. Instead she is haunted, literally, by ghosts and daemons. By my reckoning she encounters Asmodeus, Henry George, The Dead Dead Gang, Freddie Allen and Patsy Clarke. She also recalls an eerie moment in the Pool Hall where we will later see Angels playing games with her life.

Ash Moses (Asmodeus) confirming that Hell for Marla would be precisely her trapped in her own life forever is grim and accurate to our understanding of the Ghost Seam.

On her walk we see the creation of reoccurring character "the dog turd" laid out ready to be noted by Mick and stepped in much later. As she leaves her home street (and exits the direct influence of the destructor) her head clears and she feels a little better, this mirrors Micks experience in chapter one.

This chapter serves to lay out the "England is shit" themes (to quote a meme on this subreddit) this is the world that Alma seeks to save.

Finally Marla notices that house on Scarlet well street where she will later receive assistance. The house appears in many chapters, being where Audrey Vernall now lives. We close on the grim image of Marla getting into the car of an unknown "customer" having finally been driven to what she considers the most dangerous way of soliciting.

First time readers will get no closure for Marla for quite some time but on a re-read we can at least console ourself with the fact she is, eventually, safe again.

Welcome to the Week 2 of my (our) re-read of Jerusalem!

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Chapter 2: A Host of Angles.

In this chapter Ernest "Ginger" Vernal goes to work, meets an angel, and goes mad.

Spoilers Below

The title quote from Ludwig Wittgenstein reminding us that a new perspective on the world can reveal truth.

My first thought upon starting to re-read this chapter was that there are multiple (at least two) chapters in this book that begin with older sons waking up and having to negotiate money troubles with their mother. In this chapter Ginger is short rent money and later in the book Benedict will be accepting an allowance.

I thought the phrase "Bracing to receive the boulder of the world" as he awakes was point as he will soon be burdened with knowledge of creation.

We get our first hints of Henry George in Ginger's musings on the news from America.

Easily missed on a first read, his dream is a premonition of his later encounter with the Angel, their perspectives reversed.

Moore does lots of foreshadowing of later themes in his metaphors and side references. "The Ghosts of meals past" "Fairy painters" and an "antic spirit bread in bedlam sending people mad" which seems to literally be the case in Northampton with the state of Mansoul near the end of book 2, the collapsed areas near the asylum and of course the destructor.

Inside St Paul's the building metaphorically unfolds around him, this will become familiar language.

On Ginger's way up St Paul's we get our introduction to Flatland, again a change of perspective I recall in the second chapter of The Voice of the Fire (The Cremation Fields) we receive a similar primer on Flatland, a map described as "crow lines" (aerial view) among other references to the perspective of crows.

This might be silly but all the talk of the mechanical construction that carries recalled Northampton and the Porthimoth di Norhan to my mind, but that may simply be the talk of strength at the centre, as well as the religious connotations.

Angle in the Wall. Was this Mighty Mike or the Third Borough? I only suggest the second option because Ginger looks away from the painting towards four painted Archangels. The purpose of this encounter seems to serve primarily as a warning of the Destructor. Does anyone have any thoughts as to what Ginger was expected to do with this information? His illumination does not appear directly connected to Mick's.

I find it interesting that we don't see much more of Ginger after this, his role in the narrative supplanted by Snowy, having both characters feels slightly narratively redundant when they could have been merged. I suppose they must be pulled directly from Moore's family tree.