Yeah, a lot like ds2, you have infinite healing, bosses aren't much of a threat, and most stuff is balanced around you having half your max health and at a lower level than you can fairly easily teach. It's genuinely kneecapping its own difficulty a fair bit.
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But seriously DeS gameplay really isnāt challenging after playing Fromās newer games. It would have kicked my ass had I played it in 2009 but I didnāt have a PS3
god screw this dam system i was aiming for the plat and i had to do multiple ng+ just for the world and character tendency events beacuse i didn't know pvp affect character tendency so i had to do multiple ng+ just to get my both character and world tendency to shift to white
despite the game being the shortest compared to other souls games the new game plus difficulty can be really fcked up and unforgiving compared to other souls game and this when i realized how terrible some boss runs can be in this game
this vid is mostly just meme like the average ds2 boss runs but pretty sure some people can still realate to it
Lol. On ng++ the lunge attack those wimpy zombies on the swamp level do will one shot you even if your shieldās up. Basically every 90 seconds you have to reapply the damage reducing spell or youāll get dropped by an out of sight butt fucker in the shanty town
i hated how random those stupid lung attack are seriously in term of difficulty this game feels the hardest when it comes to the plat or just ng+ difficultly and yes i know it's probably skill issue
It means that with controls becoming better, the game turned out to actually be quite easy. DS2 would be the easiest game FS ever made (yes, even easier than Sekiro) if they let us have DS3 controls. The difficulty was completely artificial in that the most base part of the game, character movement, was shit.
Itās a banger out of context, in my opinion the remake has consistently better produced songs but it does feel as though they were trying to capitalise on Kitamuraās work in DS3. The OST doesnāt have its own identity in DeS 2020 and I think Maiden Astraeaās new theme doesnāt use the motif enough or convey the correct feelings in the fight.
However, each to their own and I do like it as a piece of music.
Why would you complain about tower of latria of all levels. that might be the best part of the game. You really played through the swamp and thought āat least it isnt tower of latriaā???
The swamp was unironically leagues better than the tower with squid men who can stunlock one shot me where every corridor looks the exact same. Shit was annoying as fuck, especially on higher ng cycles
Had an argument with my brother in law about this. I said ādemon souls is alright, just way too many fights in areas you can fall.ā Dude proceeded to do the whole get gud thing like jesus christ bro
Almost as if the game didn't care nearly as much about the combat system as just putting you in uncomfortable, tense situations mostly given by the level design? I find it far more interesting to negotiate the unwieldy bridges and roofs of 5-1 (or Blighttown/Tomb of the Giants, for that matter), or the descent in 4-2, or the labyrinthian structure of 3-1, or whatever the fuck 2-2 is, or the tense crawl through the bridge in 1-2, and so on, than it is to grind any traditional boss fight. While there are certainly memorable levels in the other games, particularly DS1, DS2 and even Elden Ring, this kind of scenario is not the core focus of those games (tragically so in the case of Elden Ring, which is, for me, just SO CLOSE to having that same kind of charm in its legacy Dungeons, my favorites being Haligtree and the Subterranean Shunning Grounds).
More charitably, they like when the areas provide a threat via hazards and shaky designs, rather than being carpeted runways to a boss fight.
I think the best souls feeling is a balanced difficulty between areas and bosses, so I get where they're coming from, but gravity isn't a fun enemy when the platforming is souls jank. I think most of ds1, vanilla DS2, and a certain game mods won't let me mention do this pretty well, whereas Demon's souls goes a little too unfun on areas and easy on bosses, and DS3, Sekiro, and Elden Ring go a little too easy on routes.
Game's bosses are more of a "what would you do to survive" scenario that Miyazaki was more or less aiming for here in Demon's Souls. That's why it's so much fun š¤Also the pvp was fun
But I get why people dislike it. Weird world tendency shit, bosses are mid and pvp is basically dead across all platforms
I too like mashing the swing button against a specific spot on a boss's body without doing any damage 100 times so I caj get 3 attacks that do barely anything to his health.
demon dong fans when you can only damage the boss by the big obvious gushing wound while pressing b to dodge it's singular attack which takes 20 business days to land: š¤Æš¤Æš¤Æš¤Æ
miyazaki peaked at adjudicator, why even try anymore
Its an interesting idea but i dont think it worked well. If youre good at the game it gets even easier which makes it boring, and if youre bad at the game it gets harder rather than helping you learn
Knowing the game gets harder when u die does help with the dark oppressive atmosphere that demons souls was really good at creating. but World Tendency was so obscure on release that i bet most players didnt even realize that was happening
Wym arent objectively bad, they absofuckinglutely are
Maybe you can excuse them with "it was the first souls game", sure, but that doesnt mean its just shit design
are you stupid? do you really think that just because you don't like them it makes them objectively bad? The fact that there are loads of people who'd disagree already proves you wrong
Thats not how this works lil bro
People can have many reasons to like an objectively bad thing, liling it doesnt make it subjective, its still dogshit game design and theyve moved on from that for a good reason
LMAO brother what the hell. That boss can't even kill you if you walk somewhat to the side sometimes, worst you stalemate because you didn't figure out the obvious weak spots.
Fromsoft adding checkpoints and bonfires so close to the bosses in their later games feels like an apology for all of the horrendous run backs of Demon Souls.
Going from Sekiro, Elden Ring and Dark Souls 3 to Demon Souls was one hell of an adjustment period for me, thank christ the bosses were easy and gimmicky, imagine having to deal with a run back as bad as World 4-2, but with a boss equal in diffuclty to Malenia and Midir, I'd go hollow after the first death.
Honestly thank god demon souls is comprised of gimmick bosses and bosses that are about as complex as an ER mini boss if not easier, because I would kill myself if I ever had to do a boss run back in demon souls
Which makes it all the more hilarious that the three hardest bosses in the entire game also have some of, if not THE worst runbacks (Flamelurker's broken-ass "platforming" section or the alternative 5+ minutes of tunnel crawling, Maneaters' staircase with the red Mindflayer of death and... Allant with the claustrophobic-ass tower, two- or three- shotting enemies, insta-kill dragon that takes some 10 minutes to kill by shooting arrows and 30 second elevator ride, which they had to make a shortcut for in the remaster).
Not like there aren't some other terrible ones too (Old Hero, Leechmonger, Tower Knight and Fool's Idol all come to mind).
towernight is god-awful. you have to time your run to the stupid dragon and go through that tunnel with the dogs. Then get back in the boss arena and kill the 6 archers and then you can fight the boss. like come on, who design that crap
I've literally never died to the adjudicator so i wouldnt know how bad that runback is
I would however say, old fromsoft fans are way too soft on their games. In ds1 or des, if theres a bad runback, the fans are like "this is good, we love this" but in ds2, or some of the later games have a bad runback, its hell and needs to be gotten rid of
the Laurence runback is not bad at all, its just like 4 full sprints and you don't have to kill anything. Allant is completely different, thats the worst runeback in the series by far
Laurence's runback is cancer. Its just like allants runback, unnecesarily annoying. You have to wait 20 seconds for the door to open every time, while being attacked by other enemies, and even go through like a fucking jigsaw movie of traps and chainsaw dogs and dudes with guns.
All that for a boss whos just as cancer, its not even worth doing
At least i've never died to allant, and his runback is devoid of enemies besides an easy to avoid dragon. Its just a patience game
also anyone who has played all the games would know blue smleter demon and the twin tigers have BY FAR the worst runbacks and its not even a competition. Twin tigers runback can take 5+ minutes in a zone where you can't see, and the blue smelter demon runback has three rooms full of traps and enemies, that are timed so they close off if you don't make it in time and get stuck, AND mages who make you fat roll and move slower
Fun fact: if you decide to ignore the enemies in the area, each of these runs cost you exactly 2-3 pieces of full moon grass, or 4-5 of late moon grass, or 8-10 of half moon grass or an obscene amount of crescent moon grass.
You will never use new and dark moon grass except with bosses or the swamp of 5-2.
This game is horrible for inventory management
Adjudicator is only difficult because its not apparent how to reach the bird as a melee build. I purposefully died to him because I thought you were meant to find a ranged weapon to hit him.
Never played Demon's Souls, but since Estus flasks recharge every time you die, they clearly accounted for this in the runback. Sounds like a skill issue
its the punishment for dying bro restarting the boss battle isnt enough bro death has more meaning bro its part of the difficulty bro its just one minute bro you can use it to plan and adapt bro
Honestly the worst runback in DeS is Tower Knight or Allant, the combination of the dragons mixed with constant attacks from the enemies makes it annoying as hell
I love souls games and all but damn man I why make me run through a battlefield just to fight a boss thatās even more harder then die and run through it all againš
My closest first souls like game was Code Vein. Any recommendations for the next soul game? I'm looking for one with a good weapon upgrade system and enough monsters to grind xp before taking on the boss. Thanks in advance.
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u/2Trashed2Delirious Dec 11 '23
You're supposed to just beat the bosses first try.