I made this post about a month and a half ago about suffering a concussion at work from a violent student. I wish I had more positive news, alas I do not.

The plan was to just stick it out until the end of the year and leave after that. Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to, since this incident has caused lasting effects and my admin continues to be horrendous.

Believe it or not, admin never followed up with me about what happened. They never asked if I was okay or even acknowledged what happened to me. In fact, after it happened, I got harassed over my classroom doorbell (which was forcibly removed by them) and then reprimanded for emailing in for a sick day a few minutes later than I was supposed to (we’re required to give an hour notice, and I gave maybe 52 minutes notice) I have now used all of my sick days. I struggle with migraines since the attack, as well as emotional/mental distress from the incident. The school continues to be full of violent students having breakdowns and causing fights, police involvement and soft lockdowns.

One of the students involved in the main incident remains in my classroom, who no surprise, continues to be involved in violent/major behavioral issues in the school. Just this week that same student hit another student in my class in the face. I went for help from security (who surprise wasn’t there again) wrote a referral, only for the student to still be there the following day. I wish I was making this up.

I can’t take it anymore. I’ve given my life to this field for almost 10 years. Blood, sweat and tears for these kids. They don’t care. Some are even outright mean and treat me like shit, despite “professionalism” calling for always being kind, calm and respectful back to them because they’re “traumatized” and “this is a title 1 school.” I’m tired of being treated like that. What I would give to just once treat them the same way back. Well, I officially have nothing left to give to these “poor, disadvantaged kids who need a caring and loving positive role model in their lives.”

I’m so over it. I’m officially on FMLA starting Monday. After a particularly bad day yesterday, I spent the afternoon tearing down my classroom. Come Monday, I hope those few horrible kids I have see my now empty room and know that they’re one of the main reasons I won’t be back. They probably don’t care tho lol so yay they finally got what they wanted I guess. Even my great kids don’t make it worth it anymore.

If I can help it, I won’t be back after FMLA. Looking forward to healing from this wild ride, I feel immediate relief (Even though admin never even responded to my email about my leave 🤪) I feel so sorry for whoever has to take over those classes. I’ll let it be admins problem though. Wishing the rest of you a good year. Hang in there if you can. Unfortunately I couldn’t, so I’m out ✌️

Teaching middle school. No "coach", just the principal. I am the second teacher in grades 5 to 8 to be fired by the same principal (roughly 500 kids total). Was I perfect? No. But I believe there was bad communication and issues that could have been cleared up with a conversation.

I have never been fired before. I was told I was intimidated and not well liked amongst students. Although, many parents got together and complained I was fired randomly.

This school has a high turnover. People have acted worse than me and are still there. It all depends on who admin likes.

The money was not worth the mental health suffering this has caused me. I put so much into this job and was doing everything possible to make the kids happy. I brought in gifts every week. Gave out cookies and candy. Always a smile on my face.

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I teach middle school, and we just had Back To School Night last week. Basically, I had groups of parents come into my room for ten minute sessions where I pretty much just talked about the class and what the kids are learning and how to support them at home.

Two mothers in the room acted exactly like their daughters. Both were easily over thirty, maybe pushing forty. Right when they came in, they turned two desks to face each other just like friends do when they enter a classroom. They spoke over me and giggled the entire time and showed each other TikTok videos. Clearly didn’t listen to a word I said or care in the slightest. You might have guessed, but both of their daughters are failing.

Strangest part, one of the students came up to me the following morning and said: “My mom says she really likes you.”

As title says. Linked as humor bc laughter is good medicine

I’m a second year ELA teacher and I’m learning I have to REALLY lower my standards so that I don’t get burnt out. These kids…. genuinely will do anything but the work. In fact, they’d rather twiddle their thumbs than do any work

The other day, I had a student who is at an F. He’s a kid who refuses to do work unless he is interested in the topic, which unfortunately is never. It doesn’t matter who talks to him: me or co-teacher. He won’t do it. The other day we listening to an audiobook of Macbeth and were answering some questions while reading and he had his head down the entire time. Talked to him after class and he said, verbatim, “if I don’t want to do the work, I’m not going to do it. Simple as that. You can’t make me” to which I respond, “while that is true, you need this class to graduate and you won’t pass if you don’t do the work.” Walked away right after.

Ugh

I’ve recently been working as an hourly teacher’s assistant at a small Montessori school run out of someone’s home.
On one morning, the owner specifically asked me to arrive 30 minutes before the school started 9am. On two other mornings, she asked me to arrive 20 minutes early, and on the remaining mornings, she asked me to arrive at 8:45 to help get the classroom ready.
Altogether, this adds up to approximately three hours of unpaid time.
When I brought this up to her, she told me that the 15 minutes before 9 a.m. were considered my time to prepare the classroom and that the earlier mornings were for her to train me.
I explained that I’ve always been paid for training at every job I’ve had and have never been expected to prepare for work off the clock.
Her response was that training me was actually work for HER, not for me, so she doesn’t believe she should have to pay me for that time.
For context, I never requested any additional training. She specifically asked me to come in early for it.
I’m genuinely curious what others think. Am I being unreasonable for expecting to be paid for those three hours? Is it normal for an hourly employee to be expected to set up a classroom and attend employer-requested training without pay?

No Timmy, Circe didn't tell Odysseus he had to visit "the gift shop" before returning to Ithaca.

I do have the dubious assumption not a single soul will say over the past 10 years, but when do you think peak instruction and learning occurred in the United States? (or whatever country you live in)

I'm the special ed resource teacher and was pushing into a 6th grade classroom. As I mentioned in my previous post, I work at a PK-6;school in NC. The regular ed teacher stepped out for a few minutes to make copies, so I was watching the class.

A brand-new 6th grader reached into his backpack, pulled out a pocketknife, and started showing another kid.

I saw it, immediately told him to put it down, got the other students away from him, and called administration.

My principal somehow turned that into ME being the problem.

She pulled me into her office and began screaming about how I was “responsible for that classroom” and how a student should never have been able to pull out a knife under my supervision.

I defended myself, and rightly so, saying, “What exactly do you mean ‘able to’? He reached into his own backpack and pulled it out. Am I supposed to have X-ray vision?”

She then accused me of sarcasm and making excuses.

I tried to explain again.

She interrupted me AGAIN like she usually does.

So I rightfully raised my voice right back at her.

I said, “NO. You are going to let me finish this time. I was covering that class for a few minutes while the teacher made copies. That child reached into his backpack and pulled something out with absolutely no warning. I saw it, I stopped it, and I called administration. Unless you expected me to search every backpack before she walked out of the room, tell me what the hell you expected me to do.”

She screamed, “DO NOT RAISE YOUR VOICE AT ME.”

I yelled back, “THEN STOP RAISING YOURS AT ME.”

Then I told her exactly what I’ve wanted to tell her for months.

“You talk to everybody in this building like we’re stupid. You interrupt people, embarrass people in meetings, and the second anybody pushes back, suddenly they’re ‘disrespectful.’ You were a teacher once. You have completely forgotten where you came from. And if this is how you think leadership works, you should not be a principal.”

She completely lost it.

She regarded me as was "insubordinate" and said, “I don’t give a damn about the SPED shortage. I will write you the fuck up and make sure you never get another teaching job.”

I said, “There it is. You’re threatening somebody’s entire career because they finally stood up to you. And you wonder why people don’t respect you?”

That REALLY set her off.

I finally stood up and told her, “I’m done. You will not scream at me, threaten me, and then call me disrespectful because I defend myself. I’m not meeting with you alone again.”

This is the SAME principal from my last post who lost her mind because another staff member said, “Can I finish speaking?”

Now I understand completely.

She doesn’t want people to respect her. She wants people to be afraid to challenge her.

And during dismissal she kept glaring at me. Like every single time I looked over, she was staring directly at me. She didn’t say anything, but after earlier today it felt very intentional.

I’m documenting everything now because I am completely done with this woman.

Here's the link to my last post giving you more context about the culture of fear and intimidation my principal has created: https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/s/76efXdVfHy

First of all, some important context:

1. I’m a third year teacher in a semi rural district.
2. I am the only teacher in this building without any real ties to the area, I don’t know a house, I don’t have any kids, I don’t have family there, etc.
3. I teach on a semester schedule, so 80 minute blocks daily and then at the end of January we get a second first day of school so to say where we get all new classes.
4. I’m aware this is probably just coincidence even if it doesn’t feel like it.

Now to the issue:

Every year so far, my first semester at the school has been miserable. The fall semester is full of behaviors, a draining workload, and no support. I find myself every year saying that this will be my last one and that I’ll find a new school next year. I’m drained. I’m exhausted. I’m shorter with my family and friends. It just doesn’t feel sustainable, and it makes me incredibly homesick (I’m originally from a slightly larger city a few hours away. I moved for the job and so at times when the job is challenging, there’s not much else for me to think about.) And then spring semester rolls around. Every year so far spring semester has been way easier. I have easier groups of students to manage, less preps, just a generally more positive outlook and I love this job again.
Part of me feels like they’re doing this on purpose😅 New jobs in the area are posted around March/April, so my conspiracy theory is that they make me suffer during the fall and make me love my job during the time when I would actually be interviewing and searching. I know that’s actually unlikely. But the fact that it’s been three years of the same pattern is exhausting. And I teach different classes at different times. It’s not like I’ve always taught one grade level in fall semester thatI don’t like. It’s been a mixed bag. But for some reason, I’ve only ever cried in the fall. I’ve only ever fallen significantly behind the grading in the fall. I’ve only ever dreaded my classes in the fall.

My question: in a school like this, should I look for other opportunities? Or should I just be counting my blessings that half of my school year is wonderful?

So I just saw the news about the recent shooting in Bend, Oregon. A 16 year-old boy entered an elementary school with a gun, and committed a shooting there. 3 pre-teen children and a teacher lost their lives. 2 other people, one of them a student, are still critically injured. Thankfully a father who was a bystander there was carrying his gun, and he shot the shooter to stop him from doing further damage.

Seeing news about school shootings, specially where most victims are children, breaks my heart. I'm sure that teacher who died yesterday was thinking about how he could make their students learn better, grading his students, and fulfilling his duties as a teacher. I don't think it crossed into their mind that day that some crazy teenager was gonna break into the elementary school to shoot students and teachers.

Now 4 people are gone, and the only thing we can hope is for the recovery of those who are injured, and wish strength to the families of those lost because losing someone like this is something indescribable.

A thought about someone committing a shooting in the school I work in rarely crosses my mind. I'm most of the time worried about planning the learning material for my students, grading assignments, and making sure my students learn and behave in class. I never want to worry about someone doing a heinous act in the school I work in.

I once heard 2 students in my class ages 14 who were making jokes about committing school shootings using the "skills" they've learned in shooting video games, and I told these students that it isn't funny to joke about such things because it's something I never want any teacher, student, or parent to go through. They said they knew school shootings are wrong and would never do that, but that they found grace on making jokes about school shootings and recreating their games in real life. I shut any student up who dares to make edgy jokes about killings.

I pray nothing ever like this ever happens to me or any of my students or fellow teachers. I also hope no teacher ever suffers this, but unfortunately unexpected bad things happen because of evil people. I wish blessings on anyone who reads this.

Hi, I am starting my substitute teaching job this upcoming week and could really use some advice. I’m pretty nervous because I worked at a daycare back when I was 18 and I honestly never got taken seriously by the kids, but that was also my own fault because I started setting firm boundaries with them a week after starting instead of right away, so those boundaries were never taken seriously. I was 18 at the time and have grown since then but I put that there for context on why i’m so anxious. So how can I go into this job immediately with firm boundaries, and get taken seriously not being that much older than the kids? My goal is for the kids to respect me, and not attempt to walk all over me 24/7. If there’s anything that has specifically worked for you I’d love to hear it

I have a principal that talks a big game about being equitable and having people talk to each other when there's a conflict.

But they don't do what they preach. You asked for a meaning to talk about a hard issue and they say no. They're not going to meet you. Their decision is final and they don't care what you have to say basically.

Has anybody come across this, how do you handle it? Because it's starting to really incense me.

Hypocritical principals are the worst.

And their children are also the least likely to do the homework.

Almost all of the homework my coworkers and I assign is just leftover classwork. It's only leftover because the students wasted their class time. The well-behaved students never seem to have homework, because there's more than enough time to get everything done in class. It's the students who waste their time--usually by disrupting the students around them--who end up with the most homework. And it's those students' parents who complain about the homework.

And those same students usually don't do the homework anyway.

"Please excuse my child from last night's homework. He said he had two hours' worth of homework, but we didn't get home from travel football until 10pm, and he needed to sleep."

That "two hours' worth of homework" is the accumulated classwork of 20 wasted minutes per class, for six classes per day. His classmates who use their class time wisely had no homework. And today's classwork just builds off of yesterday's work. So now he can't do today's classwork. So it will just become more homework for him.

(I also posted this to the special education subreddit, but I know this subreddit has more reach, so I'm posting here, too).

Help!!

I'm a first year teacher that will have my own middle school ELA resource class very soon. I am very nervous about this, as I want to make sure that I'm providing the proper services/supports to students. I already have a resource math class, but there's 2x as many goals to keep track of in ELA (writing + reading).

I'm trying to come up with a routine/structure for the class, but I'm not sure where to begin. The current ELA teacher (who will take the other half of the class once we divide up the students) has been using centers to work with each student. They primarily read a short article from Readworks/CommonLit or a leveled book from Fountas & Pinnell for reading, and then work off of a choice board for writing. I want to switch more to novel studies, as I feel that I can get a lot of activities/opportunities to target their IEP goals out of them. However, I don't have any idea how to start it. My lowest reader is at a 2nd grade level, while the rest range between 3rd-4th grade. I will probably split the students in 2 groups, but beyond that I'm lost.

If there are any teachers out there with experience teaching ELA as a resource, I would love any advice/insight as to how you structured your class. I will have the support of one paraprofessional, who is happy to lead a center if I go that route.

I have one of those red-yellow-green light-up things. Voice level 0, voice level 1, all the way up to voice level 4 for presentations. I have used it maybe four times this year before giving up.

The kids do not care. They see the red light and keep talking. They see me switch it to yellow and keep talking. I say "we're at voice level 0" and they look at me, nod, and keep talking. I have tried making it a game, tried consequences, tried the whole "this is for you to self monitor" speech. Nothing.

I walked into a colleague's room during their prep and saw they had the same chart, same brand, still in the packaging. They said they unboxed it, looked at their roster, and put it in a drawer. We both laughed but it was that tired laugh.

I think the chart works in classrooms where kids already know how to regulate. I do not have one of those classrooms this year. The chart is now just a colorful thing on the wall that admin can point to and say I have established routines.

Today was the second day of Fall Break, and I got a call from my AP. Right off the bat, I knew this wasn’t good. We’ve been working on a project together to help another teacher who has been having mental health issues, so I figured that was what the call would be about.

But she told me a student I taught last year died by suicide last night. He was in 9th grade this year, and I loved having him in my class last year. He was a bright kid with a great sense of humor and an even better taste in music. He was one of those kids who made your day better just by being in class. Out of all the students I taught last year, he was the last I would expect to be struggling.

This is the first student I’ve had who has died, and it’s tearing me up. I’m trying to keep my mind off it, relax over break, and enjoy the time with family that we’re visiting, but that student is all I can think of. I wish I had the opportunity to tell him how much he brightened up my day each day when I was going through a difficult time.

I know the statistics surrounding suicide and the age group I teach, so I know this won’t be the last time I’ll have to attend the funeral of a student who died by suicide. I don’t know how I’m supposed to go back to class Wednesday after the grief counselors address it with my classes (I have a sub the first day back from break, so admin is having a counselor come read the school’s statement to my class). Do I talk about it when I’m back or just move on? I want the kids who are struggling and hurting to know that their lives are precious and worth living, even if they are hard. I want them to know if they feel uncared for or unloved that I care about them and love them and that if they are having similar feelings, they can come to me, I will ensure they get the help they need with the correct people. I just… don’t want any more of my students to die this way. This isn’t the first suicide my school has had, but it’s the first one of my students. I don’t know how to best proceed forward. Does anyone have any advice?

I work for a very large district.

"We have to do the best with what we have" is how my literacy coach explains it.

In past districts, we had access to Pearson item banks. They weren't perfect and this was pre-AI so maybe they've changed, but I'm gobsmacked that my district has no ELA item bank. It's all just AI. Allegedly there is a protocol they run the generated items through, but I've run into several items egregious enough over the last two assessments to reach out to the assessment department and submit a complaint about item alignment.

Then they make us sit in PLCs twice a week to review the data we've gathered. AKA, how students performed on these generated items. What does this data actually tell us? What are we measuring?

The distractors are terrible, often just factually wrong, and don't require the actual skill the standard is supposed to address. A kid can read the passage and just process of elimination their way to a correct answer. The questions all follow a similar pattern. I wish I could provide examples but I don't want to identify myself too clearly.

Our assessment department, our ELA program specialist... Certainly, these are our brightest and best? We should trust that they will maintain assessment item integrity/alignment through their AI usage?

Today while monitoring student computer use I witnessed a student having a “conversation” with chatGPT in which it was giving him responses with strong positive reinforcement to drop out of high school. It was agreeing with him (while calling him Big Dawg) that truancy laws are unnecessary and that if he just goes to school and that the school ultimately just wants him to attend for funding purposes. It dove into strategies in which he could just show up and serve as a “warm body” (put his head down and refuse to engage with his classes) until he was of legal age to drop out. Needless to say we had a discussion on how chatGPT/ LLMs function and he was also referred to our family service liaison. Our town is the site of a future 400 acre data center that is supposed by the school board because we will get “monetary kickbacks” and the district in general seems to be all in on AI 🙃

Hi everyone

I have a teacher training interview soon, and im pretty prepared in terms of the actual questions but theyve asked me to do a microteach at the start. Im confident with the topic and explaining it but idk if i shld treat the panel like students and ask questions in that short micro teach (under 10 mins) or just aim to teach it really well with a basic approach so its understandable. can any trainee teachers/teachers who have experience with the interviews help me with this?

Thanks

I’m kind of in a bad space right now and really just need to rant. I have had a year. This is my second year at this school. Last year was lovely and I felt like I was making a difference. The violent kids I had last year were really manageable besides one but he kind of just stopped showing up when his “girlfriend” dumped him (they’re like 11 mind you). Now to preface our school does serve a lot of behaviourally challenged children as we literally have behavioural specialists and a classroom just for specifically violent students to try an integrate them back into a normal classroom while also teaching them the proper skills to succeed around others and still learn… I don’t feel it’s that beneficial personally. I had multiple students last year that were part of the program and I don’t feel they were any better humans from it, they just lied their way into making them believe they could return to the gen ed classroom.

This year I was given quite a few students who clearly are very aggressive and need more support than I can provide. Including one that never had aggressive tendencies until his year suddenly. Clearly something has happened outside of school we don’t know about but he’s become extremely violent towards his peers. It’s basically been an everyday thing, if it’s not him it’s “Jeff” or “Steven” or “Mark” or so on. It never ends. Literally Tuesday a parent just didn’t pick up her fucking child because she didn’t want to. Her kid sat outside/inside the school for FIVE HOURS before she showed up only because the police called her and made her pick up her son. wtf is wrong with people!!!

Then today we were having what is say was a pretty tame period playing a computer game as a class. Gimkit. I’ve used this before as a reward and study tool. They have a math test Monday, we were reviewing while also playing, and then tomorrow they’ll complete the actual review. But suddenly “Mark” gets upset that “Steven” is “taunting him” in the game and he gets up and starts choking Steven out. So the EA goes to get help. I get Mark to stop. Before I can even handle anything else, Steven just starts destroying the entire room. Like grabbing chairs and textbooks and laptops and smashing everything as hard as possible, swinging it around, screaming at the top of his lungs (which, sort of impressive after you were literally just chocked out gasping for breath). I can’t even try to stop him as I have to evacuate the other students for their safety. Admin arrives and I guess must eventually get him to stop but even when I returned he was punching tables and pillows and breathing like a maniac. And what’s the solution to this? Let’s take him outside and get him some fresh air.

Are you fucking serious?

My room is destroyed. An entire cart of Chromebooks is probably destroyed. While nothing of mine that I bought from my own money is destroyed the room needs to be put back together. Nope, you’re still expected to be at staff meeting. Absolutely fucking not. I made my students clean it best they could including the glass like I’m not staying until midnight I did not deserve this! So I left the second our staff meeting was done even though I knew admin wanted to speak to me about what happened but I said fuck that and went home and immediately once I got home texted I think I have a head cold and will be booking a sub for tomorrow. Their response? “You still need to reach out to parents about what occurred today.” Like are you serious? No apology, no “this won’t happen again” bullshit line or anything! The kids were terrified! Not like their parents will care, they’ll blame me too!

OK, I'm at a loss here. Usually, I can deal with my student's random numbskullery with grace, but this one just seems...odd. I have a student, senior girl, who meows at me when she comes into class. Kind of quietly, but it's always there. Being a responsible 50+ teacher I Googled it. Nothing. Does anyone know if there's any meaning behind it, or is my student just an oddball?

Edit: Ok, to be clear, she isn't neurodivergent (any more than your average high schooler) and doesn't have Tourette's. She is also not a furry or identifying as a cat. She's just a kid with friends and her own thing going on. I thought about meowing back, but I wasn't sure if meant anything so I'm not going to do that. I think the majority of you are right, that I have a goofy kid on my hands. I can deal with that.

I'm a first year teacher. My son is in 1st grade on the other side of the school. I can't sleep.

At dismissal I got the notification about the Oregon murders that happened today. While putting my profoundly disabled students on the bus my watch told me 3 kids were gunned down.

And now I go back to school tomorrow and... Teach math?

How do we do this without worrying ourselves sick? How do I protect my students AND make sure my son isn't taken out of the school in a body bag? How do we stay sane in this awful disaster we've created?

Sold A Story Season 2

“In Sold a Story's second season, Emily Hanford investigates what happened to Direct Instruction — and why deeply held beliefs about education often triumph over evidence.”

So what we have been screaming about FOR YEARS.

I predict that the pendulum is going to swing too hard in the opposite direction as it always does, but for now I am going to enjoy the high that comes from finally fucking feeling seen.