r/videogames • • Sep 08 '26

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u/herrcollin Sep 08 '26

Fuck the haters this looks so good.

Hate on Nintendo as much as you like, they really don't miss with their big IP's.

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u/Psychological-Toe397 Sep 08 '26

Except with pokemon. Us pokémon fans can only dream of a mainline game with the same quality of a zelda or mario game

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u/Fogmoz Sep 08 '26

Game freak needs to admit their forte was with pixel graphics and fucking embrace HD2D. They would do so well in that space.

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u/Beneficial_Gene3064 Sep 08 '26

The amount of content they could fit in the game too if they went that route..

I really want a game where you can kinda choose your own adventure like Skyrim. A main quest line but multiple branches. Factions and shit yk

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u/bl00by Sep 09 '26

Woah buddy, that sounds like work!

We dont do that here

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u/ComradeJohnS Sep 08 '26

squareenix has to have that copywrite, right? its such a fantastic style.

people hated the diamond/pearl remakes that had chibi style, so idk if they want to do anything 2d again.

pokemon fans are never happy, while I have loved all the switch games and am happy we get them more frequently lol. legends games especially.

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u/jessej421 Sep 09 '26

I don't know but Unicorn Overlord, which is not SE, had a very 2D-HD style.

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u/metalmonstar Sep 09 '26

But people liked the style of Let's Go games. I think Ilca just got dealt a bad hand of having to rush out a port/remake

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u/Cephalopirate Sep 09 '26

They don’t have a copyright on high fidelity pixel art.

Their style is top notch though.

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u/Psychological-Toe397 Sep 09 '26

A single guy made an emmerald remake in that 2DHD style and the community loved it. Or at least i haven't seen any negative comments about it.

If you think the pokemon games released for the switch so far are good, I respect your opinion. I just wish we could discuss actually important sides of a videogame like the art style or the story, instead of having to deal with basic technical issues like bugs, poor performance, cut content and outdated visuals, which is what I criticize about these games. My position is that the biggest gaming franchise in the world should not be releasing games with those issues at all.

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u/ItzAmazed Sep 08 '26

Pokemon isn't made by Nintendo, it's made by gamefreak. They suck ass and can't keep up. I would bet that if Nintendo had full creative power (so basically what Gamefreak currently has) the Pokemon mainline games would look a lot different.

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u/Carmine_the_Sergal Sep 08 '26 edited Sep 08 '26

GF can’t keep up because until recently they were forced to release a new gen yearly

Edit: I meant a new game yearly

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u/Dendrodes Sep 08 '26

To clarify, no not a new gen yearly, a new game yearly. Legends ZA is still gen 9, like Arceus was still gen 8.

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u/Carmine_the_Sergal Sep 08 '26

Shit yeah that’s what I meant lmao I’m sorry for that

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u/Dendrodes Sep 08 '26

Lol nah you're good, makes sense.

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u/Beginning-Blood-6429 Sep 08 '26

I was under the impression that Nintendo are the reason the games don't have much time in the oven

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u/brainstrain91 Sep 08 '26

The Pokemon Company is owned equally by Nintendo, Creatures Inc, and Gamefreak.

So it could not just be Nintendo, as they do not have a majority stake (although the three companies are heavily intertwined, so I'm sure the reality is quite complicated).

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u/ItzAmazed Sep 08 '26

Gamefreak is autonomous from Nintendo, and has their own manangement. Only thing Nintedo does is publish the games they really don't have much if any say over the games.

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u/Beginning-Blood-6429 Sep 08 '26

Fair enough if that's the case. I knew Ninty were the publishers but my understanding was that publishers historically supply the money for development costs/staff etc. and stand to lose or gain money from the game's sales. Therefore they have a heavy hand in how long the game should be in the pot for, what kind of game it should be and such, while the dev team earn their salaries and try to pitch

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u/ItzAmazed Sep 08 '26

I mean ofcourse we aren't for certain how it actually works in the background, but we do know for a fact that gamefreak is in control of the games and how/when they are made.

If there is outside pressure from Nintendo we don't know but they technically speaking shouldn't have any say (but they probably do).

But I doubt they would personally, seeing as that all of the first party Nintendo games have tons of polish and take time. I don't see how they wouldn't want the same for their most profitable franchise.

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u/FrostyPotpourri Sep 09 '26

Check out this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfSKAvbAUUk

It's a lot more complicated than it seems.

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u/CammyDiveKick Sep 08 '26

This would require Gamefreak giving up development of the franchise which they never will.

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u/Dhiox Sep 08 '26

It's literally the only thing they have going for them after all. Everything else they've made has been mid at best.

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u/EngineerEthan Sep 09 '26

cough Beast of Reincarnation cough

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u/dinklebot2000 Sep 08 '26

Vote with your wallet then. Game Freak really has no reason to improve their games when they can release a potato and it sells better than any Zelda game.

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u/LFC9_41 Sep 08 '26

At the end of the day, a lot of people flat out disagree with you. The series would not survive on nostalgia and marketing alone. To most people playing them, they’re fun. Every time.

If you’re still buying these games and thinking they’re a big whiff, that’s a you problem.

Stop buying them.

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u/FuQReddiit666 Sep 08 '26

I would die happy if they made a mainline game as good as those

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u/Training-Purple-5220 Sep 09 '26

My genie wish is Monolith Soft making the environment while GF does the character designs and music.

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u/KoalaTHerb Sep 09 '26

Someone already made the pokemon game Nintendo wouldn't. And it's called palworld. Overwhelmingly positive reviews in steam, constant updates, and it just released it's final 1.0 version of the game

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u/Odd_Common_452 Sep 08 '26

Pokemon slop games feel so cheaply made. It’s had hardly any innovation in how they play.

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u/-CowNipples- Sep 08 '26

Except for Pokemon 😭

I’m praying Winds/Waves looks this good

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u/h2oskid3 Sep 08 '26

Footage so far is not promising. I've given up on Pokemon being at the level of other IPs.

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u/lattjeful Sep 08 '26

Really? I think it looks fine. Nothing mindblowing, but fine. Pokemon has never been the best looking game on any system. Look at how the GBA games look VS stuff like Golden Sun, the DS games VS Okamiden and Metroid Prime Hunters, etc. Obviously their Switch output was subpar visually, but Winds/Waves looks fairly competent.

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u/h2oskid3 Sep 08 '26

It just looks like Scarlett and Violet with slightly better graphics. Which looked like Sword and Shield with a slightly better graphics. Plus what we've seen wasn't even gameplay footage yet. I guess I should hold judgement until it actually releases, but so far not optimistic as far as visuals. And honestly I think I'm fine with that. Maybe it's the open world that isn't working for me? It just feels like something is missing. I'll still play it I'm sure, just feels like it could be so much more.

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u/woojewjake Sep 08 '26

They’ve shown like 30 seconds of the Pokemon game and the game comes out next year

This is the first gameplay we’ve seen of OOT and it comes out in 2 months

Patience

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u/h2oskid3 Sep 08 '26

From my experience actual gameplay footage is usually worse than the teaser footage, not better. We'll see though.

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u/woojewjake Sep 08 '26

Play on Switch 2 never had any gameplay issues or thought anything looked bad since I started playing the pokemon games this year on them

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u/cochese25 Sep 09 '26

W&W looks good to me. Certainly a huge step up from whatever they pushed with S&V.
Though, S&V does have it's moments where it looks really good for its time. Like when you're in a city. As soon as you leave the city though, it's just bland.

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u/bohenian12 Sep 08 '26

With Pokemon, it's rare they get a hit. Pokopia is by far the best on recent memory, and it's not a mainline game.

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u/Happyranger265 Sep 08 '26

Pokemon is will never reach this level because their fanbase obnoxiously defend the shittiest games they put out and flock to buy it even if its a hot pile of garbage like flies. The games barely evolve , the gameplay is slow and graphic even if it's like 10 year behind the curve , the fanbase act like it's the best thing ever and buy it regardless , so why would the company try to make something good when they can sell half baked games with low effort and work .

The best Pokemon game i have played is a romhack

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u/ConfessedOak205 Sep 09 '26

Nintendo doesnt make Pokémon

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u/Chedder_456 Sep 09 '26

I mean why even say “fuck the haters”? I didn’t even know folks had issues until I logged on to this godforsaken website.

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u/onex7805 Sep 09 '26

Nintendo fans cannot handle criticism.

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u/MasterDraccus Sep 08 '26

Except for, you know, their biggest one.

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u/MightyBooshX Sep 08 '26

Metroid prime 4 was a bit of a miss, but broadly yeah

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u/cumonherbackithink Sep 08 '26

Like… literally they never do.

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u/3dforlife Sep 08 '26

Generally it looks good, but the characters skin looks too much shiny, and I don't know why they chose that artistic path...

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u/kelpyb1 Sep 08 '26

Missing on their big IPs with any regularity would sink Nintendo

You don’t buy a Nintendo console because of all the great third party exclusives

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u/Calm_Age_ Sep 09 '26

Idk if I can't get a great fairy with pyramid boobs it just won't be the same.

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u/frostycanuck89 Sep 09 '26

Just watched the direct and I'm still erect. So God damn excited for a remake of my favourite game.

Coming to Reddit now.... Why am I not surprised there are haters. Pretty tired of how goddamn nitpicky the internet can be the last like decade

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u/tjtillmancoag Sep 09 '26

When they announced a remake of OoT, I was initially unimpressed. They did a 3D remake on the 3DS, they just keep going back to the well.

But this looks impressive enough to really do real justice to it. I’m converted

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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace Sep 09 '26

I'm a hater but mostly cause I'm not buying a console for one game that I own 3 times already. I'm happy a new generation gets to enjoy the game and the story, to me the old shitty graphics are part of the beauty of the game. In 25+ years someone will look at this game with the same nostalgia that I look at the old one though and that I truly love.

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u/EldenBoredAF Sep 08 '26

Nintendo fans have such low standards smh

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u/Isekaimerican Sep 08 '26

As a curmudgeon who hates joy, and I want to said that this semi realistic art style is trash, they should bring back CEL-da.

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u/Lunar_IX Sep 08 '26

The art style that everyone railed this exact complaint about when it first came around? That's the one you want back?

Maybe just give this style time to grow the way that one did?

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u/Mediocre-Housing-131 Sep 08 '26

Everything will be Unreal or have the appearance of Unreal. There will be no whimsy or color. There will only be greens and browns.

But go off I guess

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u/SaIemKing Sep 08 '26

They definitely miss with their big IPs sometimes, but they haven't missed with Zelda since the second one.

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u/Sufficient-Patient46 Sep 08 '26

Mind articulating what you find bad about II?

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u/SaIemKing Sep 08 '26

huge genre shift, very frustrating

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u/shadowstar36 Sep 08 '26

Eh that depends on your point of view. Zelda 2 was still loved back in the day when it released, it was just different and it became to be expected. Castlevania 2, and super Mario bros 2 also were different. I was there for the launch of all of them. If thinking about a Zelda that missed I think Skyward sword fit the bill at the time of release.

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u/SaIemKing Sep 08 '26

At the time of release rather than in retrospect, then yeah, I'd agree. I think Skyward Sword got its redemption tho

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u/karaknorn Sep 08 '26

Bring to pc plz otherwise I stick to my n64 ha 

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u/dosha906 Sep 08 '26

Yea exclusives for any console kinda sucks

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u/Teqnique_757 Sep 08 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/WGDpVeN02GB19l0cGU

What you are doing right now to Nintendos nether regions