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Rewatch Pandora Hearts Rewatch - Episode 08

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Questions of the Day:

1) Is Oz twisted, like Break says?

2) How would you react if your mom was dead and dad hated you?

3) Thoughts on Break having less than a year left?

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ 13d ago

First Timer

ep 8

Question

  • drop
  • One Dollar!
  • White Rabbit? The Will of the Abyss was controlling a White Rabbit? That's what that was?
  • Shit, Emily is some sort of Voodoo Doll controlling Raven???

This is hilarious, how Oz keeps refusing to be a shounen protagonist.

  • Break clearly has the ability to move through confined spaces....
  • She looks like Rei Ayanami....
  • please do not make me rewind and ready that name...was it Bezarius?
  • weirdest exposition framing ever

So, what Oz and Alice have in common is an absence of parents.

Pandora is the Military-Industrial complex that wants to manufacture Chains.

This town looks like the Not-Florence from the opening scene.

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u/lC3 12d ago

White Rabbit? The Will of the Abyss was controlling a White Rabbit? That's what that was?

Yeah, that was the Intention of the Abyss being creepy.

Shit, Emily is some sort of Voodoo Doll controlling Raven???

This is hilarious, how Oz keeps refusing to be a shounen protagonist.

Break clearly has the ability to move through confined spaces....

She looks like Rei Ayanami....

That girl in blue?

please do not make me rewind and ready that name...was it Bezarius?

Who?

So, what Oz and Alice have in common is an absence of parents.

Pandora is the Military-Industrial complex that wants to manufacture Chains.

I think they just want the Abyss to calm the fuck down ... but you may be right.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ 12d ago

Break clearly has the ability to move through confined spaces....

Sharon mentioned shadows, perhaps it is shadow.

Bezarius

That's what my subs call Oz's family.

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u/lC3 12d ago

Sharon mentioned shadows, perhaps it is shadow.

Another good catch!

That's what my subs call Oz's family.

Yeah, that's the fansub spelling for Vessalius.

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u/StickPrevious9581 12d ago

Well, Break continues to remind me why I don't like him, which is the only nice thing he has done so far...

So some legal contractors don't physically age? I guess that means the Baskervilles must have a legal method like Pandora, if Zwei is still a child after a decade.

If Break is going to die in less than a year, I wonder how old he is? I can't imagine people would legally contract with Chains if it is going to cut your life span drastically, so I would guess at least mid-60's at minimum - I don't think we've seen any old people yet, or been told anything about life expectancy yet, so it is hard to make a proper guess at that. On the other hand, it could be that he is centuries old... I've forgotten, did they say how long ago that disaster in the first episode took place? Perhaps he is a survivor (or culprit) of it...

So, Pandora thinks the Abyss gives birth to weapons (chains), and the Will is the core. Presumably if they have the core, they can influence/control the Abyss - but why does Pandora need so many weapons? I guess I'm back to my theory of Pandora not being the good guys (because I still can't stand Break as a person, though I am getting a bit more used to him), and probably coming into conflict with Oz in the future. Break might claim they want the Will to fix the Abyss - I don't believe it in the slightest. Also, the backing music during that part was a really nice track :)

Break calling Oz creepy and a distorted mess is like the pot calling the kettle black and made of metal - I think even the Baskervilles have more right to say that than Break...

Why is Gil surprised that Break disappeared in the cupboard? Either he can travel via shadows (more likely based on him/Sharon watching them from Gil's shadow) or he can travel when unobserved, but surely if Gil has been with Pandora for 10 years he would know that by now?

First movement of the incuse - if it happens this fast, I guess Oz is going to be called back to the Abyss even before Break is expected to die. I guess that is one way to make sure the plot doesn't get dragged out :)

I do agree with Alice though, Oz is definitely a bit twisted and Gil is just as bad - but that just makes them interesting!

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u/lC3 12d ago

Well, Break continues to remind me why I don't like him, which is the only nice thing he has done so far...

Break is awesome!

So some legal contractors don't physically age? I guess that means the Baskervilles must have a legal method like Pandora, if Zwei is still a child after a decade.

Yeah, I don't know for sure but this seems legit.

If Break is going to die in less than a year, I wonder how old he is?

I can't imagine people would legally contract with Chains if it is going to cut your life span drastically, so I would guess at least mid-60's at minimum

It's hard to tell, given how he doesn't age.

I've forgotten, did they say how long ago that disaster in the first episode took place? Perhaps he is a survivor (or culprit) of it...

The Tragedy of Sablier? No they haven't said (yet) how long ago it took place.

So, Pandora thinks the Abyss gives birth to weapons (chains), and the Will is the core. Presumably if they have the core, they can influence/control the Abyss

pretty much?

I guess I'm back to my theory of Pandora not being the good guys

That would be an interesting twist

Break might claim they want the Will to fix the Abyss - I don't believe it in the slightest

Also, the backing music during that part was a really nice track :)

I love this soundtrack!

Break calling Oz creepy and a distorted mess is like the pot calling the kettle black and made of metal - I think even the Baskervilles have more right to say that than Break...

Why is Gil surprised that Break disappeared in the cupboard? Either he can travel via shadows (more likely based on him/Sharon watching them from Gil's shadow) or he can travel when unobserved, but surely if Gil has been with Pandora for 10 years he would know that by now?

Yeah, I think Gil would know this by now, unless he hasn't worked with Sharon and Break as much until recently.

First movement of the incuse - if it happens this fast, I guess Oz is going to be called back to the Abyss even before Break is expected to die. I guess that is one way to make sure the plot doesn't get dragged out :)

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I do agree with Alice though, Oz is definitely a bit twisted and Gil is just as bad - but that just makes them interesting!

Wait until you meet Vincent ...

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 13d ago

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u/lC3 12d ago

Someone said that same stuff to Oz in the past…? Was it his dad? He was pretty absent prior to all this shit going down.

Seems like the most likely culprit

Hahaha…

I like the comedy in this show!

Bedhead Alice, cute.

I, too, would react like that if someone slid out from underneath my bed. (Doubly so since it’s not physically possible for someone to fit under my bed…)

Do you remember Lavi pulling that in Romania during the Krory arc? He just waltzed out of a cabinet or something

Huh…

So Sharon is forever 13? That sucks. If I were to stop aging I'd want to reach adulthood first. Can she even legally drink alcohol?

Oh, dang…

Koemushi curse?

Well, that’s why he’s the main character.

Yes

Wait, is Break actually blind or is this just metaphorical?

I'd have to look and see how my subs translated it. But no, he's not blind ... [PH anime later]but he is missing his left eye.

Damn he can really be creepy when he wants to.

He reminds me a little of Kakashi.

Looks like Oz and Gilbert are both keeping secrets from each other, then. Also lol @ Alice trying to eat the flowers in the background.

YUP

Ah, Oz does have parental issues.

Man I love Alice.

Damn, Oz.

That's one way to get expelled?

There Gilbert was trying to stop Alice from talking about parents in front of Oz and this kid talks about how much he loves his own dad.

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u/ShadowGuyinRealLife 13d ago

Looks like Alice really doesn't like Break monitoring her. "Grrr"

Hey even if it doesn't make her live longer, at least Shanon gets to stay cute for the runtime of her life.

I love Alice trying to eat the rose.

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u/lC3 12d ago

Hey even if it doesn't make her live longer, at least Shanon gets to stay cute for the runtime of her life.

I wouldn't want to be forever 13! At least get a little older before becoming unable to age ... like maybe 18-25?

I love Alice trying to eat the rose.

Me too!

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u/ShadowGuyinRealLife 5d ago

I know how Sharon looks at 13 since I can see her in this episode so I stand by that. I don't know how you looked at that age. So maybe you'd want to be a bit older and that would make sense.

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u/lC3 4d ago

Yeah, I was short and scrawny at 13; I don't think I had a growth spurt yet.

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u/TheDanubianCommunard 12d ago

First-time

Finally, we are in the capital city, a good change oof environment for once after the countryside most of the time. Even though it's just the outskirts. I thought it would be a good chill, peaceful SoL episode, looks like it isn't. We got more exposition on worldbuilding though.

Finally we got answers on how Break and Sharon still not aged a bit. The answer is because they are legal contractors, which not only they have no visible mark on body, but also able to stop any kind of physical aging. This is no true immortality, since they are aging inside and not prolong their lifespan at all. Even though it is a side effect that is not 100% guarantted to appear for everyone, but these two were quite lucky with that. I wonder how tis applies to Zwei as well. Break might be really old, but he still want to live the day when the Will of the Abyss is captured and researched by mankind.

Whatever the thing with this other white-haired girl, she must be connected to the other Alice, or maybe she is the other Rabbit Chain. I think it was the cause for how the clock on the contract of Oz has moved for the first time. Speaking of him, his family is a sensitive subject that he is not willing to talk about.

Whether Alice is a former human or a Chain, parents and family are a concept that seems foreign to her, but might connected to her past memories.

1) Is Oz twisted, like Break says?

He is.

2) How would you react if your mom was dead and dad hated you?

Can't say, since I didn't grow up in that way.

3) Thoughts on Break having less than a year left?

He must be really old, but doesn't behave like a typical old man.

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u/lC3 12d ago

Finally, we are in the capital city, a good change oof environment for once after the countryside most of the time.

Yup, Reveille.

Finally we got answers on how Break and Sharon still not aged a bit. The answer is because they are legal contractors, which not only they have no visible mark on body, but also able to stop any kind of physical aging. This is no true immortality, since they are aging inside and not prolong their lifespan at all. Even though it is a side effect that is not 100% guarantted to appear for everyone, but these two were quite lucky with that.

Yeah ... I wouldn't want to be forever 13 though! I wonder how old Sharon was when she Contracted.

I wonder how tis applies to Zwei as well

Hmm ... I wonder too!

Break might be really old, but he still want to live the day when the Will of the Abyss is captured and researched by mankind.

How can one capture the Intention of the Abyss if she's literally in the deepest depths of Abyss? I wonder what it means to "obtain" her ...

Whatever the thing with this other white-haired girl, she must be connected to the other Alice, or maybe she is the other Rabbit Chain

Whether Alice is a former human or a Chain, parents and family are a concept that seems foreign to her, but might connected to her past memories.

We'll see! Hopefully we get to see more of her memories soon.

He must be really old, but doesn't behave like a typical old man.

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u/lC3 13d ago

08: Question / Inquiry of the Recluse

  • Oz has been told that too, before? He just doesn't remember from who?
  • Gil has an apartment in Reveille?
  • Sharon and Break were watching the whole thing from Gil's shadow?
  • "Hurry up or I'll start tickling you"
  • ... Break was under Alice's bed?
  • Oh right, Break and Sharon haven't aged at all
  • Break probably won't last another year?
  • Abyss gives birth to Chains?
  • The Intention of the Abyss is malfunctioning? Like [DGM]the Earl?
  • Break doesn't understand Baskerville's actions?
  • control all the Abyss? Oz can?
  • Break calls Oz creepy and distorted?
  • Break entering and leaving like that reminds me of Lavi doing something similar in DGM?
  • Ominous cello music??
  • A girl in blue left flowers for Oz?
  • Vincent Nightray?
  • Alice was eating the flowers? LOL
  • Gil has some stuff he hasn't told Oz yet?
  • GIl tells Alice not to talk to Oz about "parents"?
  • Those bullies in the alley are vicious!
  • ... Oz has an axe?
  • ... the kiddo just had to ask Oz about his parents
  • Oz doesn't even remember his dad's face, and his mom is dead?
  • Did Oz's mom die in childbirth and that's why his dad hates him?
  • The girl in blue again? She must be plot-relevant. She knows "Vincent Nightray"?