r/18650masterrace • • Jun 03 '23

PSA: for any comments/posts containing @liexpress links, please disguise the link so that it isn't caught by automod

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basically, automod automatically removes comments it detects as containing links from aliexpress, which i have to manually approve so they are visible to y'all. which I do, but it takes a while to show up.

to prevent that from hapening, if you do something like remove the aliex.....com bit, and just leave the end of the url then the comment doesn't get removed

thanks!


r/18650masterrace • • Nov 08 '21

Buying 18650 batteries? Start here.

1.1k Upvotes

Let's begin with some sound advice:

  • Do not buy 18650s from Amazon.
  • Do not buy 18650s from Ebay.
  • Do not buy 18650s from Aliexpress.
  • Do not buy any 18650 above 3600mAh.

With those guidelines you'll avoid 95% of the scams and unsafe batteries out there.

Where should you buy them?

USA: If you are in the US we've got plenty of trustworthy vendors with good prices. I've compiled (and update every few weeks) all of their inventories into a single searchable list here. It includes Illumn (CA), Mountain Electronics (UT), IMR Batteries (TX), Li-Ion Wholesale (PA), Orbtronic (FL), 18650 Battery Store (GA), Aloft Hobbies (CA). There is also a special list for bulk OEM cells if you plan to assemble a pack.

Europe: the 2 best places are Nkon (NL) and Akkuteile (DE).

UK: 18650.uk, EcoLux, Fogstar, Fogstar Wholesale, Torchy.

Australia: Ecocell, Tech Around You.

Canada: Illumn and 18650 Battery Store are known for good shipping rates across the border. There is also 18650Canada.ca. (No relation to the defunct 18650Canada dot com!) However their prices and shipping are so high that its often less expensive to import from the previously mentioned US vendors. Some community members have also had good experiences with ecigarettes.ca. Rotorgeeks has a small selection but is well liked by /r/Multicopter.

Elsewhere: start with your regional electronics vendors or local vaping stores. Some chinese vendors that several community members have had good experiences with: Battery Bro, Queen Battery, PK Cell. As a last resort consider Aliexpress. But you'll have to do a lot of research to find a trustworthy vendor. (Someone might say "XYZBAT" is good. But there are 4 different "XYZBAT" shops on Aliexpress.)

If a vendor has any 18650s over 3600mAh then none of their cells are trustworthy!

Sept 2023 update: Vapcell has released a 3800mAh and 4000mAh 18650 now. If you see people selling them (and people we trust do sell them) don't be alarmed. However I do not recommend them. They came from an unexpected place: a 2nd tier chinese manufacturer called FEB. Vapcell has previously released some cooked up chemistries with extremely high capacities but very poor secondary characteristics. (The high capacity Vapcell K64 would self discharge in a few weeks. They quickly discontinued it.) There are a lot of unsafe and unreliable ways to boost the capacity of a cell. I suspect that FEB has done that.

Its a bit like how nobody sells a 10GHz CPU. Yes its possible to make such a thing but nobody in their right mind would.


r/18650masterrace • • 1d ago

Oh no I'm running low on fish tape.

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I better order more batteries.


r/18650masterrace • • 23h ago

What do I need for diy powerbank?

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I have this 3x 18650 holder, and I want to know: what else do I need to build diy powerbank. What board should I use to ensure it doesn't burn out when charging? Will I be able to attach a wireless charging module?


r/18650masterrace • • 1d ago

18650-powered My project is progressing and I have only had 1 fire

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3 months ago I managed to acquire over 70 e-scooter battery packs and have been slowly dismantling, testing and store there cells for future use.

My current plan is to create 3, 48v packs - in a 40P configuration - and then tie them together in parallel.


r/18650masterrace • • 1d ago

Can leave my 18650 in mu car while its parked in sun(i am thinking of placing a 18650 powered diy tracker)

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r/18650masterrace • • 1d ago

Help fixing ebike battery

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Hi. I hope you don’t mind me asking this. Just delete if this is not the right place.

I am trying to fix a ‘dead’ ebike batery for my in-laws.

They are not flush with cash and have been quoted £375 for a replacement so I have offered to try and repair it or get as far as I can.

I have taken it apart and diagnosed that it is just one set of 3 batteries in the 10S3P pack that has died (they are showing 0.02v). All the other sets are reading about 3.4v

I now have two problems.

I don’t know how to safely take the battery holders apart and I don’t know how to spot weld batteries.


r/18650masterrace • • 1d ago

Hello, is there a radio that has a removable 21700?

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r/18650masterrace • • 1d ago

B43 battery case and insides

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r/18650masterrace • • 3d ago

DEATH TO THIS! Sanyo moment.

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In a Laptop battery from 2006.

These Sanyo cells always do that for some reason.


r/18650masterrace • • 2d ago

Lowes battery repair instructions.

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I thought some of you might enjoy this article that Lowe’s shares in their app. I don’t think it’s bad information, I just think a lot of their customers aren’t ready for this


r/18650masterrace • • 3d ago

18650-powered Panasonic 18650B

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I have thousands of these Panasonic NCR1860B cells brand new never used taken from hamilton medical battery packs and I have hundreds of packs not even open yet. If anybody’s interested, give me a shout. I’m just north of Winnipeg Canada and I will ship anywhere in the country.


r/18650masterrace • • 3d ago

I am truly sorry. 🙏🏼😢

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I shared my thoughts on assembling a lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4) battery in a 4S1P configuration. Since I have only just joined this community two days ago, I was not aware of the group's regulations beforehand, and I sincerely apologize for that. 🙏🏼 Given this situation, I think the best option is to request to leave the group. Additionally, I would like to apologize to all members of the Reddit18650 community for posting content that is not related to 18650 batteries. My intention was simply to share the ideas I have studied, but now I realize that those posts were not beneficial at all. I apologize once again.😞😓😢🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼


r/18650masterrace • • 4d ago

18650-powered Cells for dewalt batteries

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Im trying to find cells for my dewalt batteries. There all about 7ish years old. All the cells I’m ringing are $6+. Idk if that’s just what they are now or if I can find some good ones for a better price. I’m not trying to cheap out as I want them to last I just don’t want to spend a small fortune either. Thanks


r/18650masterrace • • 5d ago

I assembled a 4S1P LiFePO4 battery pack with a 6Ah capacity (12.8V/14.6V).

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r/18650masterrace • • 4d ago

battery info 18650 batteries

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Im trying to find batteries that will work in a E70 mini the factory battery is a protected button top (15A according to goggle) usbc battery. I tried liion 18650 protected button top 10A cell Google says 10A should work but sometimes i have to spam turbo to get it to stay on other times it just wont go into turbo. Im having some hard time finding protected button top cells that are 15A. I read some reviews saying the batteries have issues at times. Im trying to find a cost effective alternative then buying straight from acebeam. They are really expensive.


r/18650masterrace • • 4d ago

How do you make internal resistance measurements comparable when sorting used 18650 cells?

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Hi everyone,

I work on lithium-ion cell qualification through cirBATT (cirbatt.com), a battery reuse project in France.

One issue I’m looking at is how to report internal resistance so another person can meaningfully interpret the result.

A resistance reading needs context: the measurement method, state of charge, temperature and contact arrangement. Results from an AC resistance meter and a DC pulse test should also be identified separately.

For those of you who sort recovered 18650 cells:

  • Do you measure resistance at a defined state of charge and temperature?
  • How do you check the repeatability of your fixture and contacts?
  • Do you use resistance mainly to compare cells of the same model, or also when evaluating mixed batches?

Which instrument and fixture have given you the most repeatable results?

I’m interested in the measurement process and its limitations, rather than a universal resistance threshold.


r/18650masterrace • • 5d ago

Need help with a bms

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I have 2 bms with balancers built in

Here is what I want

I have

First pack

3s2p bms with balancer built in

Second pack

3s2p bms with balancer built in

Now im wondering if i can wire the output to make a 24v output or if that would make any problems


r/18650masterrace • • 5d ago

INR18650M26 CID Popped?

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I was in another room when I heard a loud pop. I had this partially deconstructed battery pack on my desk, and looking at it, I noticed the outer wrapper was torn. Has the CID ruptured? If so, what would have caused that? That battery has been off a charger for a week, and the housing it sits in is non conductive.


r/18650masterrace • • 5d ago

Proscenic P11 ( vacum cleaner ) – BMS locks battery after cell replacement

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HI

I rebuilt the original Proscenic P11 battery (CJ-11, 25.9 V, 2000 mAh, 7S1P) using 7× LG MH1 cells instead of the original Sunpower cells.

- All cells: 4.172 V, approximately 59 mΩ.

- All 7 series-group voltages appear correct.

- BMS PCB: NL2208-C10C11-A-V3.2, marked KB6160.

- Battery output is 0 V without the charger.

- With the charger connected, the display turns on and shows 100%, but the motor won't start.

- Tried waking the BMS without success.

- CP2102 gave unreadable data; CP2112 SMBus attempts have not received a response.

Does anyone know how to reset/unlock this BMS, identify its communication protocol, or recover it after replacing the cells? I'd like to keep the original BMS.

Thanks!


r/18650masterrace • • 5d ago

Do you charge 18650 batteries during night?

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I started with stripping 18650 battery packs, and try to save the batteries.

I got a LiitoKala m4s charger. It runs all day.

Do you charge at night as well as day?


r/18650masterrace • • 6d ago

Just some testing graphs

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1.3 miles and 1.9ah. this was pushing it hard and I would have done more but the brakes are garbage and I was done with regen only stopping for the moment. Basically I should have no problem running 50a all-day long once I have the heat pipe heat sinks and fan controller installed so exactly what I was hoping for.


r/18650masterrace • • 6d ago

battery info Safe charging for 2S 18350 Vapcell M11 V2 cells

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I know 5-10W is ideal for these cells, but, how do I limit that on this board? I also want to output 45W, but while charging, only 10W. Is if possible? The IC is the IP2369. It’s supposed to be a bidirectional board.


r/18650masterrace • • 6d ago

How to connect end to end for high current

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I'm trying to build a 6s2p pack. I'm using TENPOWER 60XG's and need to pull ~50A. I plan to follow this from Tyeboi using 0.2 copper and 0.1 stainless steel sandwich for the connections to the terminals, however I need to make the pack a 3x2x2 due to space constraints. How to I make the connection between the ends? I found this thread from 6 years ago that suggests building them us a 3x2x1 and then folding over. Is this still considered the best method given the currents I need to draw?


r/18650masterrace • • 6d ago

9 cell 18650 battery pack.. Beginner..I need help.

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I have 9 Murcipel 18650. 3 3 cells wired in parallel.

3s 12 volt 25 amp bms board. 12.6 , 2 amp cc/cv charger.

Wired and assembled. Charged batteries separately at first. Back and forth with tests but last run thru:

B- B+. 12.57

P- P+. 12.17

First charge with charger, each 3 cell got a little high with charge , Concerning ? . After an hour, they all settled under 4.20.

Bad BMS? I tried a quick charge to wake the board but no go.