r/2007scape • Yarrrrr! • 2h ago

Discussion Rondache, Ascension Crossbows & Zorya's Tome - Concept vs Final

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I just wanted to make a picture putting the concepts and the finalized models side-by-side to compare and contrast. Added my thoughts about them as well, did I miss anything?

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u/BioMasterZap 2h ago

Worth remembering that lightning settings can be a factor too. Some of the colors might be better, or worse, when you see them ingame. Ingame items can't always perfectly match the concept (it also is just a concept to base on, not exactly how the final item ought to look), but the colors are really close so it might already match the concept exactly depending on brightness.

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u/Tenno_Scoom Yarrrrr! 2h ago

Oh yeah of course, this is just assuming that the new renders are in neutral lighting.

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u/BioMasterZap 2h ago

In the past, that has been an issue for images in update posts and such. Though other times the "default" was the dark setting so anyone playing on higher brightness had the items less dark than the concept.

So it could be this is on a higher brightness and it is fine or this is on a darker setting and they'd be way to bright of colors on higher settings. Either way, seems like they got it pretty close so if it does feel off, probably won't be too hard to nudge it a bit closer.

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u/pat_k0 2h ago

I really like the tome, the shield is nice, but the crossbows are really not good looking.

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u/KalrexOW 2h ago

sometimes this community is insufferable. “Saturation down by 25%”? Really? They look the exact same to me

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u/Tenno_Scoom Yarrrrr! 2h ago edited 2h ago

It's a very subtle change, but it stops the bright green crystal part from popping out as much and blends better with the rest of the weapon.

If you still can't see a difference (R/G colorblindness affects 8% of men worldwide), here's the change in color with the hex code as well. Taken from the same spot; left is from the render, right is from my adjustment.

It doesn't perfectly match the jade-green of the original concept art, but it's closer than the current weapon which is more of a medium green.

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u/iRengar show daddy where the ironman touched you 1h ago

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u/xBorari stop looking at my flair 2h ago

I 100% agree with you for what its worth, your edit blends the model together more nicely while the original is a lot more "poppy/neon".

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u/Rich-Badger-7601 1h ago

He's guides other to grass color IDs he can't touch himself

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u/SoraODxoKlink ‘hands off’ ceo btw 1h ago

Jagex has a very rough history with color in concepts compared to how it looks ingame (see black graceful) so theres a chance its fine

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u/Banjomussi 1h ago

You’re right about this imo. It’s trendy to be against feedback right now after the Pete Kayer disaster just ignore the low effort criticism

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u/KalrexOW 1h ago

It’s not trendy, I think complaining that a color is off by one nanopixel on a saturation slider is asinine

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u/Tenno_Scoom Yarrrrr! 1h ago

It's not really one nanopixel, it's desaturated by around 25% (which means it's 25% less vibrant as before)

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u/alynnidalar 2h ago

I feel like these are pretty nitpicky remarks! There's always going to be tweaks between concept art and the final model, some things look impressive in 2D but don't translate well to 3D and so on. I would not read very much into changes between them.

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u/Tenno_Scoom Yarrrrr! 44m ago edited 31m ago

Yeah they’re pretty nitpicky, the only things I personally don’t like about the designs are the messed-up Guthix logo on the tome (actually needs fixing) and the medium-to-bright green on the crossbows.

Guthix's logo normally has three bends and then the tip, not two, so it looks really off to me. It's also shown with the normal three bends in the concept art as well. I made this concept in a minute or two to explain what I mean since it's so specific.

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u/Outrageous_Kiwi942 45m ago

I like your slight color change better, tho tbh, I wish they'd redesign what these crossbows look like entirely.

I don't even know what these are supposed to resemble besides colors in the vague shape of a crossbow. Is this like a crystal fused with roots or something? It is a slab of rock and crystal? Where does the bolt even go?

Something like Karil's crossbow or the Hunter's crossbow or the Armadyl crossbow I could easily imagine what they are irl, but this thing just looks so vague

I get they're trying to use the same design as RS3 since they originated there, but it really doesn't fit this game imo

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u/orcishdamage 2h ago

Ascension crossbows still look better than the mega we are getting, I feel like the crossbows should be a little more straight and bigger tho

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u/MickandNo 2h ago

The stock just seems a tad shorter than the concept.

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u/dragondildo123 2h ago

The book looks way too low detail too. The pages look like one block

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u/Combat_Orca 2h ago

Nitpicking imo

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u/UnluckyNate 2h ago edited 1h ago

I wish the tome was like 1.5x bigger still. It’s an ancient time of knowledge from a large toad creature. It isn’t a book made with humans in mind

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u/Banjomussi 1h ago

I was expecting a large book floating infront of the player this is kinda meh

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u/kajarann 2h ago

dual crossbows is just dumb as hell by default, voted no on em cause they are always gonna look dumb

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u/Krelle12343 2h ago

Where is the final version from?
Did I miss a blog?

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u/MYSHITTYREDDITNAME 2h ago

I still think the book would be cooler if you were just flinging burning green pages from it, you could almost reuse the animation from those Yu-Gi-Oh cards you can get from diango

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u/Fabulous_Web_7130 2h ago

I think  the ascencion xbows are mostly fine. I do think one thing that coukd be changed about them is the handle at the bottom should have a big round part as a reference to guthix. Then when you look at the rest of it your mind will be taken away from bananas. Aschlongcion bows if you will 

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u/Metalona 2h ago

The crossbows do seem a bit.. off. Less like the gun(bolt) slinging weapons i figured they would be and more.. limp? Are the colors locked in, or what if something less taken from the rs3 version is used? Guthix is wild and unpredictable, so what if they were some different shades or colors all together?

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u/Banetaay 1h ago

Is everyone okay with toxic blowpipe design? because I have always thought it looks pretty shitty which is similar to the new xbows

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u/GraeyLV 1h ago

I feel like the tome would’ve looked cooler if it simply levitated in front of you when you specced and sort of took over your character with power in appearance.

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u/coomgod666 2h ago

Honestly, they all look terrible imo

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u/rosewood_plank 2h ago

Only the crossbows look off

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u/Tenno_Scoom Yarrrrr! 2h ago

What makes them look terrible though? It's easy to see with the Ascension Cbows but I don't really see it with the Rondache or the Tome.

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u/boldcancel 2h ago

Can we change crossbow color? It doesn't fit in with anything in this game

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u/kajarann 2h ago

take a look at blowpipe

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u/boldcancel 2h ago

There a things that go with it. Both blue and red one. This one is on it's own.

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u/WaterInTheDark 200m 2h ago

Meh. Crossbows are ugly, and so is rondache. Zorya's is just boring.

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u/Schepadoo 1h ago

I love the large vocal part of this community that won’t/can’t engage with this content but pick it apart.

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u/Tenno_Scoom Yarrrrr! 1h ago

I don't think you can use that strawman about Raids 4 of all updates lol

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u/reditiswrong67676969 34m ago

Sad that book will be dead content immediately 

Just loses in every way to ayaak which also gets confliction gauntlets. Lvl 3 delve to unlock vs the hardest raid ever 

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u/JessieMulay 2h ago

I hope you guys realize they will look even more different when they are actually in the game. They look great. Also, these are the most 1:1 concept art to render we have gotten ever.

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u/1dgtlkey 1h ago

I don’t understand all the hate for the crossbows, I like the look, they fit the game well.

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u/rsn_alchemistry I like to help new players 2h ago

Damn lotta haters in here.

Comparing the cbows to holding a banana makes me love them