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Tier List Tiers - what next?

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u/angelkatomuah [132/75] 1d ago

we've got a lot of overlap. i read the sequel to Memory Called Empire, and although it was fine, I didn't think it was needed. Might want to try Luster by Raven Leilani, These Memories Do Not Belong To Us by Yiming Ma, Stoner by John Williams, and maybe a Toni Morrison

edit: I noticed you already have it and liked it. I dont think I have anything similar. but have you read any Stephen Grahan Jones?

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u/LouWong 1d ago

No but I’ll add to the list

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u/sbteve_ 1d ago

Keep pumping Cormac. Blood meridian, the road, no country etc. also, we seem to have similar taste. I adored foster by Claire Keegan.

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u/LouWong 1d ago

Read all of those McCarthys. Will check out Claire Keegan

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u/Alexblbl 2d ago

You might like some Indian fiction. A Fine Balance by Rohinton Mistry and A Suitable Boy by Vikram Seth are two of my favorites.

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u/LouWong 2d ago

Interesting! Thank you

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u/Bmarmich 3d ago

Similar tastes and you’re making me feel better about DNF’ing Gilead earlier this year.

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u/LouWong 3d ago

If it was any longer I wouldn’t have finished, so boring and didn’t feel interested in any of the characters

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u/Bmarmich 3d ago

You might try Donna Tart’s The Little Friend…. Probably the least accessible of her 3, the story builds much more slowly. But to me the payoff was incredible. It was my first read of the year and still probably my favorite

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u/LouWong 3d ago

Her two other books are fantastic so I think I’ll tackle this one eventually too

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u/L-J-Styrsacre 3d ago

I would recommend you read Norwegian Wood by Murakami and The Kite Runner by Khaled Hosseini

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u/LouWong 3d ago

I read the kite runner a few years ago, and then I read 1Q84 too but not Norwegian wood. Will add to the list

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u/IsaBella-trix 3d ago

I'm sorry but you can't tell me that the secret history is better than the goldfinch

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u/LouWong 3d ago

Different strokes! I connected more with the characters in SH

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u/fanazuma 3d ago

More thoughts on Beautyland, please?

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u/LouWong 3d ago

Very creative concept - just found the actual plot a little bland

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u/Valuable-Credit6167 4d ago

Great list, Stoner is one of my favourite books and I think from what your list looks like here you might love Butchers Crossing also by Williams.

Especially if you really liked Lonesome Dove.

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u/Nervous_Research_450 4d ago

Strongly agree in Lonesome Dove and ATPH being masterpieces, and in Babel being trash. Disagree with Cloud Atlas being bad though.

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u/Rare_Poetry_301 4d ago

I feel like we have the same taste! I just finished All The Pretty Horses and really enjoyed reading, well listening to it! lol The Sympathizer was an interesting read as well!

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u/DrGingeyy 4d ago

Maybe check out We The Drowned by Carsten Jensen?

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u/rosemarylavender 4d ago

Similar tastes, but I loved Beautyland!! Funny bc I also hated Gilead & it was the same friend who recommended both. Proof that even aligned taste can diverge at times.

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u/rosemarylavender 4d ago

As for your next read, I’m currently reading A Visit from the Goon Squad & enjoying it. Other past favorites include: This is Happiness by Niall Williams & The Things They Carried by Tim O’Brien.

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u/LouWong 4d ago

I thought Beautyland was really cool too! I was just a little bored by the end. And Gilead was a total snooze fest

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u/Brucewayne1818 4d ago

Have you read Into Thin Air by Krakauer? I think you'd really enjoy it seeing how high you rated Endurance.

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u/LouWong 4d ago

Yes! Also highly recommend buried in the sky if you liked into thin air. It was a 5 star for me

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u/Itsneverjustajoke 4d ago

Curious about One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This. I can't imagine you reading it if you didn't already, at least somewhat, agree with the premise, so was it the prose?

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u/LouWong 4d ago

I agree with the premise and think it’s an important and accessible book. I was just expecting a bit more from the book itself given all the awards it received.

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u/easygoingbarber 4d ago

Our tastes are so similar. In the distance and north woods were my top books last year.

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u/LouWong 4d ago

I loved how unorthodox they both were!

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u/TwoHungryBlackbirdss 4d ago

I love your tastes, we are very similar so I'm stealing a few of these for my own TBR!

Seeing my all-time favorite (Cloud Atlas) so low is heartbreaking, though. Ever delve into Russian classics? I think you'd like the Master & Margarita

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u/LouWong 4d ago

CA is definitely one I could reconsider on reflection. It was 10/10 from a concept perspective, from a reading experience POV I just struggled with some of the narrators.

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u/atipton72 4d ago

I would love to see your opinion on some of the popular books on social media like Dungeon Crawler Carl and Red Rising.

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u/LouWong 4d ago

I read red rising and generally liked it but didn’t feel like I needed to read the series. DCC I actually tried and DNF. I just couldn’t get into the litRPG format…maybe should have done it as an audio book but that’s just not the type of thing I want to be reading

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u/atipton72 4d ago

I'm not into LitRPG at all but the audio version of the book is what sucked me in.

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u/LouWong 4d ago

Yeah maybe I’ll give that a shot. I’m team podcast > audio book cause for whatever reason I have a hard time processing audio books but I think DCC would be a good one.

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u/KnowledgeAncient3167 2d ago

hey! any podcasts that you can recommend?

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u/LouWong 2d ago

Ha - my interests are varied. Politics, culture and tech are mostly in the NPR/NYT universe. Then I have some comedy (las cultiristas, comedy bang bang, this is important), and some tennis/baseball podcasts too

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u/rolandofgilead41089 4d ago

Finish The Border Trilogy; The Crossing and Cities of the Plain from McCarthy.

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u/LouWong 4d ago

Currently reading COTP! Will be done soon

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u/CapriciousSon [83/52] 4d ago

I see The Crossing on there under Elite. Agreed on the need to finish the trilogy though. That ending, oof...

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u/LouWong 4d ago

I’m currently reading cotp, psyched for it and really cool seeing both characters together.

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u/AffectionateArm896 3d ago

Impressed you sought out Suttree.

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u/LouWong 3d ago

I heard it was his funniest book and I agree. Really loved the drunken shenanigan parts

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u/kimtenisqueen 4d ago

Dumb q: how do you make these tier pictures?

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u/LouWong 4d ago

Bookadaro! Took me a while but very cool.

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u/LiliumMoon 4d ago

I loved North Woods! But I also loved Babel. This list is so conflicting.

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u/Curtis_Geist 4d ago

Hard agree with most of these, minus As I Lay Dying. Vuong also belongs at the bottom of the barrel with Kuang.

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u/LouWong 4d ago

It may just not have been the right time for me to read as I lay dying. The character switching was just too much for me.

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u/Itsneverjustajoke 4d ago

I love As I lay dying, but I read it for high school English class, so I wonder if the daily discussion on things like character switching, etc. helped it flow.

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u/Curtis_Geist 4d ago

That’s more than fair. You’re under no obligation to love the classics, and just because I disagree, it doesn’t make you wrong.

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u/Cambradley201 4d ago

Surprised you weren't a fan of As I Lay Dying as someone who seems to like Cormac McCarthy.

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u/squatland_yard 4d ago

Wellness is on my TBR. Have you read the nix by Nathan Hill? I loved it

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u/Klistellacca 4d ago

I liked Wellness a lot

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u/LouWong 4d ago

I haven’t will add to the list

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u/LuhYall 4d ago

Ditto for The Nix. Great book.

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u/SokkaHaikuBot 4d ago

Sokka-Haiku by squatland_yard:

Wellness is on my

TBR. Have you read the nix by

Nathan Hill? I loved it


Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.

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u/RandomRavenclaw87 4d ago

Land by O’Farrel

The Amazing Adventures of Cavalier and Klay

Real Americans by Kong

Free Food for Millionaires

The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravetz

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u/coppersocks 4d ago

We have really similar taste so I've added a few of yours to my TBR.

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u/ciaranroberts2506 4d ago

All the pretty horses rated higher than stoner? Based

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u/Lopsided_Pain4744 4d ago

Love to see All The Pretty Horses getting some love. Curious as to why you didn’t do so well with Kafka on the Shore?

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u/LouWong 4d ago

I didn’t dislike it, it was just a bit too surreal, I thought it would come together a little more. I did read 1Q84 and liked it just wish the ending was as good as the first part. Maybe that’s just how Marukami is though.

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u/Sloth_Flower [3690/5000] 4d ago

We are like book opposites. 

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u/LouWong 4d ago

Haha say more, what are your faves?

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u/Sloth_Flower [3690/5000] 4d ago edited 4d ago

As I lay dying is one of my all time favorite books. Same with Cloud Atlas and the Unbearable Lightness of Being. 

Disliked/Overrated Goldfinch, Secret History, Pretty Horses, True Grit, and Thousand Suns, All the Light we cannot see. Never Let me go is by far my least favorite Ishiguro. 

I would downgrade Kafka by the shore, Unbroken, Station eleven and a little life to just so bad. 

I liked Lonesome Dove and Stoner but they failed their objectives in the cultural consciousness. 

I liked Endurance but wouldn't consider it a masterpiece. I went on a explorer/mountaineer kick for awhile. Like self help, I feel like these either hit you personally or sound like every other one. Denalis Howl was not as well written but hit me much harder. 

I agree on East of Eden, Demon Copperfield, Gentleman in Moscow, Name of the Wind, On Earth, and Dark Matter

We have different tastes on the types of books we choose. I don't particularly care for war books, westerns, or melodramas. I prefer scifi, horror, or gothic lit. I like my books sarcastic and funny over serious and sappy. Dreamlike and understated rather than straight forward and descriptive.   

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u/BubblyVision 4d ago

The Sympathizer was such a ride. I wasn’t sure how I felt until it started to tie up in the end, then I was just astonished. Doesn’t hurt that I was in Vietnam at the time and encountering pictures of Uncle Ho at every turn.

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u/LouWong 4d ago

I agree. Great balance of awesome narrative mixed with commentary. The committee was also great. Agree it has some similarities with the sellout and also the unbearable lightness of being in that sense.

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u/LuhYall 4d ago

It reminded me of The Sellout in the way that the narration was so captivating that I occasionally lost track of the plot, just sort of stewing in the beauty of the language.

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u/LouWong 4d ago

Agree and the unbearable lightness of being is similar in this way.

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u/Exact-Two204 4d ago

I’m planning to buy Endurance. What’s your review?

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u/LouWong 4d ago

Masterpiece. Absolutely gripped by the story and it’s also an amazing portrait of leadership.

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u/Exact-Two204 4d ago

I’m thinking if I should go for Endurance first or Lonesome dove.

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u/LouWong 4d ago

Endurance is shorter and a page turner. LD is long and takes about 100 pages to get going

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u/ProfaneWords 4d ago

What didn't you like about One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This? I was a bit apprehensive going into the book, concerned that it could easily end up reading like a scolding with no actual teeth, but I was presently surprised.

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u/LouWong 4d ago

Tbf it’s not that I didn’t like it - and I think calling it overhyped isn’t the right way to describe it. I think I was just expecting it to be a bit better given all the awards. I found the personal anecdotes and commentary very interesting, but I was expecting to be “wowed” and it just didn’t land for me. Still think it’s a very important and accessible book.

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u/HellMuttz [31/20+20] 4d ago

Ugh I have North Woods checked out and was just deciding not to read it so I can get to other things 😭 is it that good?

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u/DeadSquirrel272 4d ago

As with all books it depends on what you have a taste for at the time. Personally, I read Northwoods last year and it became one of my favorites. It’s a little bit of darkness, a little sadness, and a bit of hopefulness. Personally it felt like it filled me with a sense of heredity and a feeling that all things contain a soul of those who came there before.

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u/LouWong 4d ago

You may like “in the distance”

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u/--typing-- 4d ago

Oh hey, I didn't realize Interior, Chinatown was a book. I watched the show a while ago and thought it was pretty good, though I think I remember being disappointed with the ending. Why didn't you like the book?

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u/LouWong 4d ago

Similar to others, I was expecting to be wowed given the awards, but just didn’t find it to be that moving, and the format was a bit weird (although unique).

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u/rastab1023 4d ago

I recommend Cold Mountain by Charles Frazier.

It takes place during the US Civil War and follows a man who deserts from the Confederate Army to journey back home (almost entirely on foot) to a love interest he met shortly before going off to war. It's a very layered story about survival, the relationship between people and the land, and the human cost of war. It's one that really stuck with me.

Train Dreams by Denis Johnson might also interest you.

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u/Equivalent-State-721 4d ago

There's more Milan Kundera. The Joke is excellent.

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u/Sad___Snail 5d ago

The Goldfinch, 🤢

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u/ultrafunner 4d ago

I saw it on there - so I'll recommend my favorite Donna Tartt book, The LIttle Friend

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u/delidave7 5d ago

I actually agree with most of this list

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u/sour_heart8 5d ago

In the Distance IS such a masterpiece

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u/Motor-Gas-5708 5d ago

Ishiguro’s Remains of the Day and Klara and the Sun are also very good

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u/LouWong 5d ago

I debated reading remains of the day next but decided to finish the border trilogy and read cities of the plain next. Remains of the day will be next as a pallet cleanser

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u/Thop207375 5d ago

Here’s some random recommendations you might try looking at

Man Hunt by Swanson, We Die Alone by Howarth, Surely you’re joking My Feynman, Ubik by Dick, the Talented Mr Ripley by Highsmith, Killers of the Flower Moon by Grann, City of Thieves by Benioff, Shadow Divers by Kurson, In cold blood by Capote, and A short stay in hell by Beck.

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u/LouWong 5d ago

Read a few of those but not all, thanks for the recs!

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u/Harry-Stonkz 5d ago

Just finished The Bee Sting and I was so captivated by it. It continued to impress me from start to finish.

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u/LouWong 5d ago

Yeah the way it all came together was top notch. Let the great world spin and north woods have similar structures

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u/j_palazzolo 5d ago

If you liked The River of Doubt, then you need to read Destiny of the Republic. Millard is masterful at presenting these unique moments in American history.

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u/Jay-El 5d ago

"don't get the hype" for One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This is a bad sign, in large part because it's not really the kind of book that gets "hype"

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u/LouWong 5d ago

I’ll concede that “hype” isn’t the right word. More that I expected a bit more from it given the acclaim/awards.

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u/OhioLion 5d ago

Have my upvote for your ranking of Babel.

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u/Alexblbl 2d ago

SAME! I hated it.

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u/No-Fee4904 [37/52] 5d ago

We have similar taste (I also count TSH and The Bee Sting as masterpieces, and find R.F. Kuang to be mid at best) so I'm using your tierlist to find my next read 😂

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u/LouWong 5d ago

You may like “let the great world spin” or “in the distance”

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u/Public_Instance6741 5d ago

Loved both of those books. Great to In The Distance where you have it.

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u/AltonIllinois 5d ago

Very nice selection of books in this list.

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u/JB_Wallbridge 5d ago

Have you read any Ursala Le Guin or Octavia Butler? Looks like our tastes overlap quite and a bit and they're two of my favorites.

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u/LouWong 5d ago

I haven’t - but left hand of darkness is in my libby queue. What do you like about them / what books would you recommend?

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u/Odd_Schedule2672 5d ago

All the Pretty Horses is an absolute 5-star masterpiece. McCarthy’s best in my opinion.

Might as well rock the remaining 2 books in The Border Trilogy if you liked that one

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u/LouWong 5d ago

I’ve read the crossing (loved it, it was just below masterpiece for me), been taking a little time between them but starting cities of the plain now.

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u/grigoritheoctopus 5d ago

Have you read "Blood Meridian"? It's a lot but the writing is incredible.

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u/LouWong 5d ago

I did, I read it in college like 15 years ago and loved it but yeah it was a lotttt. Really enjoyed the border trilogy and suttree recently.

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u/grigoritheoctopus 5d ago

Yeah, those are great books, too. Suttree is something else and there is just this elegiac somberness about the Border Books that speaks to your soul. Love Mac's depictions of the natural world.

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u/LouWong 5d ago

Check out “in the distance” by Hernan Diaz. I just finished it and it was excellent. Kinda like a blend of McCarthy and north woods (also a great book).

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u/grigoritheoctopus 5d ago

Oh, that's another favorite of mine, for sure. "North Woods" was great, too. You've got a lot of books on this list that I really like, too, and some (like the Tartt books) that I am more inclined to read after seeing them grouped highly with many of my favorites.

A few other books I've really enjoyed from the past few years that you might like: "You Dreamed of Empires" by Enrigue, "Dispatches" by Herr, "Mason & Dixon" by Pynchon, "Libra" by Delillo, and "When We Cease to Understand the World" by Labatut.

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u/wlubake 4d ago

I liked Maniac even better than When We Cease to Understand the World. Both great, though.

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u/grigoritheoctopus 4d ago

Got that on my TBR! Excited for it!

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u/LouWong 5d ago

Thank you for the recs! I liked white noise by delillo back in the day

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u/Mysterious-Emotion44 5d ago

In the Name of the Wind is literally up my alley. It has everything I love about fantasy in it and yet I disliked it so much.

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u/LouWong 5d ago

Agree. Idk maybe because everyone hyped it so much, but then I read it and didn’t get why everyone loved it so much.