r/Android • u/Antonis_32 • 7d ago
Video Best Chipset: Snapdragon Elite Gen 6 vs. Dimensity 9600 Pro, A20 Pro, Exynos, Tensor!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rNJUaWeSFU&feature=youtu.be79
u/Shoddy_Meaning_7654 7d ago
Tensor is probably the funniest thing Google's ever done
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u/nepnep1111 7d ago
I'll give Google a pass on G1 and G2 given that QC at the time wasn't great either, and it was Google's first and second soc, but G3 onwards is an embarrassment and makes the pixel phones barely worth more than a midrange soc that doesn't include a prime core at all.
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u/memtiger Google Pixel 8 Pro 6d ago
What's insane is they aren't catching up AT ALL! They were more competitive in the 1st couple generations than they are now.
They are below mediocre. It's honestly impressive that heads haven't rolled over there because of the debacle that is their chip division.
I was really wanting to upgrade to the 10 but decided to just hold on until the 11. But it's essentially worse. If OnePlus still existed here, I'd be migrating, but alas it looks like Samsung is the ONLY option.
It's so sad the state of affairs the Android ecosystem is in right now.
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u/Schl1ngel 6d ago
Exactly. The gap between Tensor and its competition has been widening more and more year by year. Although there are some fanboys defending Google and repeating their marketing statements, like "Tensor is not for benchmarks," at some point heads will roll at Google. Current SoCs are twice, three times, or even more faster than Tensor. At some point, they won't be able to offer that package at the prices they are charging; that's clear. What's also clear is that Google does not design Tensor to deliberately be slow and inefficient as some are suggesting; no one does that. They are just not able to deliver something better. So, it's going to be interesting to see what happens in the future.
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u/rzoro7 6d ago
Oneplus is such a beast.
I recently moved from a Oneplus 15R (yes, the R. Not the flagship 15) to a new S26 ultra. And I can say without a doubt the 15R destroys the S26 both in the screen department and in general UI smoothness. 15R's screen looks stunning despite the lower resolution, thanks to high frequency PWM dimming. And S26 ultra's display feels like a step down from the S25 ultra thanks to the new privacy display tech.
And don't get me started on the battery and charging speeds.
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u/Then-Pay-8400 7d ago edited 7d ago
Exynos 2600 had stellar results considering it's a generation older
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u/DDz1818 7d ago
Google should just use Exynos. What's the point of having all those new features if the core performances actually really sucks. Like half the speed. lol
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u/I-24 7d ago
They should give Mediatek a try.
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u/epi2020 7d ago
Why not snapdragon?
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u/Careless_Rope_6511 Pixel 11 Pro XL 7d ago
Eats into Google's profit margins, and they'll have to hope Qualcomm fixes their shit in a timely manner security-wise. More often than not, QC will just overcharge you and then tell you to touch grass, why would they ever give a shit.
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u/National_Shine5986 7d ago
Tensor is a scam
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u/donnysaysvacuum I just want a small phone 6d ago
I hate how scam now means something you don't like or a bad deal.
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u/-protonsandneutrons- 5d ago
Scam is purely a deceptive act and using it for a product that fails to meet widely-marketed claims...sounds perfectly right. Not hard to see why some folks can feel deceived.
Google advertising the Tensor G6: "incredible power and speed" with "next-generation performance"
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u/donnysaysvacuum I just want a small phone 4d ago
There's a pretty big line between overhyped and advertising language and a purely deceptive act.
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u/Istartedthewar 7d ago edited 7d ago
Unless you're seriously gaming or running local LLMs it really feels like the SoC model hardly matters these days, outside of budget phones.
Edit- for everytone talking about longevity, etc. Here's a video of my 5 year old Pixel 6. Performance is absolutely fine for day to day phone activities. https://streamable.com/h399qf
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u/NectarineSame7303 7d ago
True but you will notice it in battery life, the faster they get things done, the newer the node, the less power it will use for a similar task and that's where you will notice a large difference.
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u/vandreulv 7d ago
True but you will notice it in battery life, the faster they get things done, the newer the node, the less power it will use for a similar task and that's where you will notice a large difference.
Also depends on the TDP design for the chipset. What you said might be the case if all the SOCs were limited to 15 watts but tend to throttle after getting there too quickly, but could change very dramatically if the cap were 5 watts instead and the chip could run continuously at that threshold. We see this all the time with binning on the PC side of things, especially with Apple's MacBooks with insufficient cooling. (All those videos about rendering on an i9 was slower than an i7, for example.)
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u/5YNT4X_ERR0R 7d ago
I’d say it depends on the task. Many tasks on mobile are transactional, where the CPU bursts up to ~15W for a fraction of a second to complete the task, then throttle back down (for example, reacting to user interactions, or loading a webpage).
Some tasks are long-running, such as graphics rendering for games, where sustained SoC power is limited by thermal dissipation power, which depends on many factors. For example, heat can only exit the phone from its surface, so surface area is a factor. Also, how fast can heat be conducted from the SoC to the surface (often addressed by conduction pads or vapour chambers). Also, the temperature delta between the phone’s surface and the surrounding. Overall, the SoC can only produce heat as fast as the device can get rid of that heat.
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u/5YNT4X_ERR0R 7d ago
That’s a very good point. What’s very important is energy efficiency—the amount of energy used to complete a task. I find often times people mistakenly associate energy efficiency with power draw, but they are only loosely related.
Power is energy per unit of time (J/s or W). One SoC can have higher power, but if it completes a task much faster, it can consume less energy doing so (hence better energy efficiency).
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u/EmptyVolition242 7d ago
The thing is higher performance chips get to low power quicker, so you also gain in battery.
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u/SamsungAppleOnePlus iPhone 18 Pro Max | OnePlus 13 7d ago edited 5d ago
I’m still impressed how much more performance I’ve been getting out of the A20 Pro in my 18PM vs the A19 Pro in my 17PM for stuff like Lightroom exports and gaming, but I’d be lying if I said I needed it. I could still use a flagship chip from 2020-2021 for basically everything I want to do, or most budget phones today could handle it well.
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u/RG_Kid Pocophone, Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite, Pixel 3a 5d ago
There's noticeable difference in gaming if your phone supports it. My Galaxy S23 loads my game as fast as the game loads on my gaming laptop. But nowadays most flagship phone cost more than my gaming laptop so the price tag doesn't justify it anymore 😂 especially since there's no real multitasking
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u/DingusTardo 7d ago edited 7d ago
It matters when you're paying $1000+ for a flagship handset. How can you guarantee 7 years of full system updates on silicon already several generations obsolete?
Tensor exists purely as a cost cutting measure, and I will die on that hill before I defend the $3T giant. Google made some additional changes to G6 to further optimize unit costs like cutting hardware MTE cache acceleration. They pay $65 per unit for Tensor G6. 8 Elite series runs other vendors over $200 per unit. Savings clearly weren't passed down.
And yet, it is worse on almost every measurable way. Core CPU/GPU stacks up to an Snapdragon 8 Gen 2... Which is now 4 generations old. The TPU (the main selling point of Tensor) isn't even in the same ballpark as Qualcomm's contemporary hexagon NPU or Apple's neural engine.
Edit/correction: Tensor G6 CPU measures up to SD 8 Elite Gen 2, but the PowerVR GPU is still quite a bit weaker.
So what am I paying $1300 for in a Pixel 11 Pro XL? It ships with the same Samsung M-series OLED as any other flagship, the same Sony sensors, the same average aluminum chassis, but a cheap SoC and less memory than last gens.
Seriously, I like my Pixel 10 Pro XL on Graphene. But the "but phones are fast enough as is" cop out doesn't work unless the Pixel line was significantly cheaper. Maybe I just don't value the stock firmware's AI feature set the way others do.
This has been Google's strategy lately between the Pixel line and Googlebooks. Google wants their cake and to eat it too; heavy, significant margins on the hardware BoM + full vertical integration and top-down control of the stack for the purposes of advertising, data collection, telemetry. Where does the consumer win, here?
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u/chinomaster182 7d ago
I agree and I'm a pixel user.
For the most part, I don't even use the power these days. But Google could've easily passed us a decent discount.
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u/Final_Economist_9218 3d ago
I bought the Pixel because of its offline translation and voice recording capabilities, including instant offline transcription. However, the screen is absolutely terrible. It's definitely not worth the money.
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u/parental92 7d ago
Like any Android phone. You are just fooling yourself If you pay full price for it.
Get what you like, they are all fast enough.
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u/sloopeyyy #midrange_masterrace 7d ago
Smartphone purchase to me is like purchasing a car these days. Any car from a certain segment can get you from A-to-B, get average fuel economy, equipped with standard tech and is fast enough for majority of people's routes. Much like everyone should be fine spending less with midrange phones these days, everyone should be fine spending less with a Corolla instead of anything fancier. But people still choose to indulge in additional material value because they like the style/design, additional options, more powerful drivetrains etc
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u/donnysaysvacuum I just want a small phone 6d ago
Car is a decent analogy because lots of people get a car based on theoretical performance that they will never use. But if the car market were like the phone market, everyone would be driving a Wrangler or F350. Well maybe it's not so different.
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u/sloopeyyy #midrange_masterrace 6d ago
Well based on the amount of people boasting and then regretting financing fancy full optioned Mercedes, BMWs, large SUVs, huge ass trucks etc for their Walmart runs... I think the market situation is the same lol
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u/vandreulv 7d ago
Like how it took ages for the i7-4790K to start actually feeling slow even though benchmarks left it in the dust years before that. Compare any CPU to the i7-4790K that beats it but isn't the latest and greatest and people immediately call it eWaste.
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u/Fairuse 7d ago
Except for the Tensor G6 that runs like a complete dog even normal day use.
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u/Amazing_Alfalfa_5664 7d ago
My pixel 9 pro XL heats up like crazy just by opening a raw photo on lightroom. Paying that much for a phone which is already behind every other competitor is madness
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u/Teik-69i 7d ago
So I'm using a Pixel 10 Pro with the even older G5 chip and to preface this I got this phone for 300€ no monthly payment, no carrier, no trade in. And for that it's amazing. But more, I don't notice it being slow in anything but the most hardest to run games, switch emulation and pc emulation. The only thing that's bothering me is the battery but if I would have payed fullprice I'd want performance equal to the other phones just because. But I don't believe that it's dogshit for personal use. You might disagree tho
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u/markovianmind 7d ago
I think pixel fanboys here can't take a feedback. Google has been charging flagship prices for mediocre hardware. My pixel 10 pros battery degraded from 5-6 hours SOT when I bought it to barely 3-4 hours which is horrible for a year old device . And I dont game. There is a Chinese video on comparing efficiency of the chips (I was impressed by the method they tested) which shows how poor the tensor is even compared to previous gen mediatek let alone snapdragon. I still buy Google because here in Australia we get regular deals at 50% off and for that it is a good phone. but I would never buy it at or near full price. I bought p11pro for 960AUD down from 1850AUD and i am selling my 10pro for 800ish so an upgrade (or downgrade to 12gb) for 160ish. At least the battery will be better compared to 3-4 hours
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u/poopyheadthrowaway Galaxy Fold 7d ago edited 7d ago
I think the point they're making is that they (and presumably most people) don't do anything like that with their phones and only use them for social media, video streaming, messaging, etc. so it doesn't matter that it can't open large Excel files or play the latest games or whatever.
That said, a less capable phone should have a lower price tag to match. That used to be the case with Pixels, but that's going away.
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u/getmoneygetpaid Purple 6d ago
This is a very extreme use case. Good for you for trying to use all the features advertised!
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u/Ebashbulbash 7d ago
I got my iPhone completely free of charge—my wife gave it to me. The official starting price for the Pixel 10 Pro was $999; that’s what matters.
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u/Teik-69i 7d ago
Tbh I got it as a new deal, from Mediamarkt so you can find vendors that sell it at that price point, tho it was a pre order deal. It's still not comparable to family business and I fully agree that 999$ (in Europe it's slightly more and you have less features so it should cost less) is too overpriced for msrp
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u/SuperYuuRo 7d ago
thats a good way of getting a Pixel, from the discount bin
says more about how overpriced they are tbh
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u/Tiny-Sandwich 7d ago
Does it? I've used Tensor G1-5 and for every day usage the were perfectly performant, it was battery consumption that wasn't acceptable.
I find it hard to believe the G6 is worse than any of its predecessors at day-to-day tasks.
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u/Careless_Rope_6511 Pixel 11 Pro XL 7d ago
That's because so much of the negativity is coming from folks who are fully invested in seeing something/where/one fail, kind of like how some communities refer to these rabble rousers as "tourists". Go into any city/town subreddit and it's more often than not chock full of "OMG SO MUCH CRIME!!!!!!!1" from users/bots who don't even live in those citys/towns and are there specifically to push a certain narrative, that kind of thing.
In r/Android specifically, easiest way to gain lots of karma real fast is, among them, circlejerk against Google/Pixels. Because losing 10+ karma per comment going against the circlejerk is a bridge too fucking far for users with 100K+ total karma roflmao.
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u/Ryrynz 7d ago
with normal tasks generally not true, in benchmarks tho 100%
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u/SmileyBMM 7d ago
I think normal just depends on what you do and how optimized the apps you use are. For example someone working with PDFs will want to defenestrate themselves while using a Tensor chip, whereas someone just reading emails will have no issues.
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u/slavikthedancer 6d ago
You don't understand that ineffecient CPU means: higher temperatures / heavier cooling system, heavier battery / less battery life? And that your videos
of "day to day activities"of scrolling up, down, left, right means nothing?12
u/pr000blemkind 7d ago
It will matter in 6 years from now.
I am still daily driving a 7 year old iPhone with the newest OS and it’s still snappy feeling.
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u/Istartedthewar 7d ago edited 7d ago
I still use my old Pixel 6 occasionally and it is still smooth and snappy. Phones have been 'fast enough' for a long time, assuming you're using them for standard smartphone things and not treating them as a full mobile workstation.
edit - to the downvoters, here's a video showcasing it. https://streamable.com/h399qf
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u/MrBadBadly S24 Ultra 7d ago
It's smooth and snappy until you push it. Do a video chat with it and see that it won't overheat. I had an interview years ago and the phone shut off the cameras and locked up in a teams call. It was embarrassing. Using the cameras would make the phone noticeably hot. And for whatever reason on my Pixel 7Pro the double tap to zoom was always laggy on Firefox but smooth on my S21U and S24U... And all the heat and trying to perform meant battery life was always shit. I mean, an hour of youtube and periodic checking of work email on Outlook shouldn't leave you nearly empty by the end of work.
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u/vivek7006 6d ago
I am also on Pixel 6. The overheating while using video is a real issue. The work-around is to use h264 codec instead of h265
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u/Istartedthewar 7d ago
I used the phone every day for about 3.5 years and never had an issue with thermals, and when using it heavily I got ~5 hrs SoT from a charge which is pretty average. I never do video calls from my phone so can't speak on that.
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u/thefootster 6d ago
I'm still daily driving a pixel 6, I game on it, video call etc. it works perfectly and the battery still lasts all day.
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u/gtrash81 6d ago
Not really.
Have now a Mediatek device for first time with a Dimensity chip.
All benchmarks and specs tell, it is faster than the older device.
But something in that chip is so badly designed, that performing the same
tasks, it performs worse compared to my old Qualcomm device.
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u/Framed-Photo 7d ago
Thanks for posting an actual video. I'm also on a Pixel 6 and have felt essentially no need to upgrade. People on this sub can be INSANE sometimes when it comes to what specs they think they need, versus what most people could actually run.
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u/AffectionateLeek904 Pixel 8 7d ago
Pixels last a lot longer due to the lightweight OS. I bought a refurbished s23 to replace my broken pixel 7 pro, but ended up selling it for a loss because it was so slow and stuttery, even after a fresh reset. Same problem with my friend's s23 ultra, so it wasn't just that unit. The s23 should have smashed the 7 pro in performance, but it was bogged down by crappy software
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u/Tiny-Sandwich 7d ago edited 7d ago
I've never really cared about flagship SoCs. I've used and been perfectly happy with Tensor, Snapdragon and Dimensity. Exynos is a mixed bag.
I've never "gamed" on my phones before other than a few bits of Gameboy/PS1 emulation over the years.
Recently though, I've been playing some PC games on my SD8EG5 and it's blown my mind. Suddenly power matters to me in a way that it hasn't in about a decade.
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u/Impossible_Loan7551 7d ago
Had a Pixel 10 Pro from day one, I was coming from an iPhone 14 Pro, it felt like a downgrade.
Bought an iPhone 18 Pro, it’s truly a whole other level. Even in day to day tasks.
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u/MrBadBadly S24 Ultra 7d ago
Meanwhile my Pixel 7Pro was insufferable after less than 2 years. Overheating, shit reception. Getting messages on drive with wireless android auto that my phone was over heating got tiring quickly.
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u/Polar_Banny 7d ago
Now I was thinking to post the same video with the following remarks, if you’ve watched this maybe you asked yourself why all Android smartphones didn’t make use of Hardware Acceleration for media tasks?
I checked before why this is the case and now I did the same and it turns out that only a handful of Android apps/programs can make use of HW Acceleration for encoding/decoding:
- CapCut (ByteDance) explicitly exposes and uses hardware paths
- Multiple independent technical guides document CapCut’s own settings for hardware acceleration:
- Settings → Playback → “Enable Hardware Decoding” (ON)
- Settings → Export → “HEVC Encoding” (ON)
- KineMaster (major Android video editor)
- KineMaster has a documented “Hardware Acceleration” switch under Settings → Advanced → Performance, plus an explicit HEVC Encoder option in Export Settings. When enabled, it uses the hardware encoder. Avoiding “Auto” mode is recommended precisely because Auto often defaults to software for broader compatibility.
Other than that I couldn’t find anything else, if you are more knowledgeable correct me so others could take the right answer.
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u/siazdghw 6d ago
This is another part to the story of why I think Android is unfortunately a mess, and that synthetic benchmarks never tell the true story.
If you're an iOS developer, you know your target devices intricately, they're iPhones. You also likely prioritize iOS development due to consumers buying more apps and paying more.
Then on the Android side... There's thousands of modern phones, and even if you wanted to target the most well known brands, Samsung, Google, Xiaomi. That's 4 different GPU architectures that need their own optimization. Synthetic benchmarks are useless as every manufacturer will optimize for them, meanwhile the millions of games on the app store will go neglected and can have serious issues (like remember when Samsung initially rolled out Xclipse (Exynos) based on AMD and even that had major issues in AAA games).
Android gives a ton of freedom to manufacturers, and unfortunately that comes at a price. Same story is happening in the PC side, where legacy philosophies have become baggage holding back the PC industry and allowed Macs to go from a joke to the best non-gaming computer you can buy.
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u/Polar_Banny 6d ago
I looked further into Android profiling and in somehow couldn’t understand why developers of these paid Professional Video Editing Tools couldn’t target these specific features for HW Acceleration! (Unless Apple restrictions its developers to share specific functionality out of App Store which they do according to their standards practices, I’ve seen these restrictions when I read EU’s regulations)
Also according to Google these developers have to target the following features when compiling their apps/programs:
Media Pipeline: Media3 ExoPlayer / MediaCodec, On-SoC Hardware VPU / Media Engine, Zero CPU overhead; battery-efficient 4K/8K hardware decode.
Native C++ Buffers, NDK -march=armv9.3-a+sve2+sme2 -O3, ARMv9.3 CPU Core Engine
Accelerates color conversions, software fallbacks, and rendering algorithms.#include <media/NdkMediaCodec.h>
#include <media/NdkMediaFormat.h>
#include <android/native_window.h>// 1. Create and configure your hardware-accelerated encoder
AMediaCodec* encoder = AMediaCodec_createEncoderByName("c2.android.av1.encoder"); // Or use createEncoderByType
AMediaFormat* format = AMediaFormat_new();AMediaFormat_setString(format, AMEDIAFORMAT_KEY_MIME, "video/av1");
AMediaFormat_setInt32(format, AMEDIAFORMAT_KEY_WIDTH, 1920);
AMediaFormat_setInt32(format, AMEDIAFORMAT_KEY_HEIGHT, 1080);
AMediaFormat_setInt32(format, AMEDIAFORMAT_KEY_BIT_RATE, 5000000);
AMediaFormat_setInt32(format, AMEDIAFORMAT_KEY_FRAME_RATE, 30);
AMediaFormat_setInt32(format, AMEDIAFORMAT_KEY_I_FRAME_INTERVAL, 1);// Configure the codec
AMediaCodec_configure(encoder, format, nullptr, nullptr, AMEDIACODEC_CONFIGURE_FLAG_ENCODE);// 2. Extract the native input window from the codec BEFORE starting it
ANativeWindow* inputWindow = nullptr;
media_status_t status = AMediaCodec_createInputSurface(encoder, &inputWindow);// 3. Start the codec pipeline
AMediaCodec_start(encoder);
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u/Nergalis 7d ago
Hot take: Xring should replace Tensor in these tests
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u/Papa_Bear55 7d ago
It's only in a foldable and tablet, so can't really compare against regular phones
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u/Posraman 6d ago
Hot take: whatever hardware my microwave runs on should replace Tensor in the pixel.
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u/alabasterskim 6d ago
Especially with new Xring O3 benchmarks putting it's multi core even above the A20 Pro (though it still is way behind on ST).
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u/ArtKun 7d ago
The performance race is getting old. Give me the best performance per watt and I'm sold.
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u/Sabotstruck 7d ago
I agree with you, but performance per watt ties directly into peak performance in reality.
The highest performing processors also tend to manage the best performance per watt
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u/NectarineSame7303 7d ago
Apple > rest
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u/Remarkable_Swing_612 7d ago
I'd rather pick a Snapdragon and Chinese phones with a huge 8000+mAH battery and super fast charging.
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u/raydialseeker 13<9R<Poco F1‹OP3‹SGnote 3‹SGS2‹SGace‹HTCwildfire 7d ago
Yeah but then you're left with a Chinese OS. They've figured out hardware. Software, not quite yet.
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u/Careless_Rope_6511 Pixel 11 Pro XL 7d ago
The ad popups situation on Chinese OSes reminds me a lot of when adblockers weren't yet a thing on PC web browsers, and closing a webpage often meant fighting with popup and popunder ads spamming the display. Can't imagine trying to fight off that level of adspam on a phone on a daily basis.
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u/Remarkable_Swing_612 7d ago
I disagree. I've had a ColorOS phone and it was perfect.
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u/Remarkable_Swing_612 7d ago
not at all. you haven't used a Color OS phone so you wouldn't know.
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u/raydialseeker 13<9R<Poco F1‹OP3‹SGnote 3‹SGS2‹SGace‹HTCwildfire 7d ago
I have oxygenOS. Some of y'all think your purchase should define you as a person just because you spent money on it. Reminds me of the Xbox 360 vs PS3 days
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u/Etna- 7d ago
Software is completely fine on Honor and Vivo devices imo. Dont notice a difference compared to Samsungs OS. Xiaomis OS was shit everytime i tried it tho.
Like were not in 2020 anymore
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u/raydialseeker 13<9R<Poco F1‹OP3‹SGnote 3‹SGS2‹SGace‹HTCwildfire 7d ago
I have a oneplus 12R, Fold 7 and iphone 17 pro max. I've been using Android devices since the HTC wildfire.
The level of polish even on the latest oxygen OS leaves a lot to be desired.
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u/nepnep1111 7d ago
I'd argue isn't a relevant comparison in practice since people will decide between apple or everything else via software or ecosystem first. MTK, QC, Xiaomi Xring, etc. are far more useful comparisons.
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u/alvenestthol 7d ago
Because the camera, build quality, software updates, lack of bloatware, and unlockable bootloader do matter to some people
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u/Rubber_Knee 7d ago edited 7d ago
I've used pixels since they were called Nexus. Never have I ever come across a faulty screen, faulty modem, camera bar detaching or swollen batteries. Not once.
the A57 has 6 years of software updates, your Pixel's hardware won't last as long
Pixels have had 7 years of updates, often more, for a while now. And the hardware of the oldest model I have in my drawer, a Pixel 4, still works as well as it did when I was still using it.
Stop lying.
My main point though is, that you should buy the phone you like. This weirdass loyalty to a company or a product that couldn't care less if you lived or died is stupid.
The second I find something I like more, I'll switch to that from the pixel. That's what I did when I switched from Sonys Xperia phones to Googles Pixels.If you like Samsung phones then buy those. But don't turn it into this whole sports team thing that you just did in your comment. That's just dumb.
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u/nepnep1111 7d ago
The problem is I despise oneUI, and would rather cope with tensor than deal with it. Upgrading to the Moto Signature 27 the moment I can.
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u/Disturbed2468 S26U 512GB 7d ago
OneUI has the advantage of being able to customize almost everything about it due to Good Lock/Theme Park. Like, to be able to change EVERYTHING about the UI to whatever I so please is crazy to get rid of.
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u/Careless_Rope_6511 Pixel 11 Pro XL 7d ago
Well you should see the build quality on the latest Pixels.
Fuck Samsung, even if they start discounting S26 Ultras down to A57 levels. They're part of the global RAM/NAND price-fixing conspiracy. The guys responsible for architecting the last price-fixing scandal? All they ever received was a slap in the wrist, and they're all back in the driver's seat.
And, for the high prices they charge for their flagships, they don't even bother matching Apple in product quality and service. If I ever have a problem with my phone and it's not an Apple iPhone, I'm fucked on every single vendor imaginable. Even Samsung with their Authorized Service Centers? They're all trash. That's before considering how Samsung thinks every other Android device doesn't fucking exist and makes their accessories require Samsung devices to work.
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u/Careless_Rope_6511 Pixel 11 Pro XL 6d ago
You do realize that Google is one of the largest AI company?
Samsung loves price-fixing RAM and NAND, asshole. It's not even their first rodeo.
And yet you're defending their phones.
Aww look at you, can't take anyone defending Google huh, while you actively defending Samsung is A-OKAY!
At least Samsung is charging less for more.
Shit Samsung fanboys say, everyone.
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u/Long-Librarian-997 6d ago
Lack of bloatware? Pixels have tons of bloatware. Can't remove any of Google products for example.
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u/alphaformayo It's Porcelain 6d ago
Don't forget the blatant advertising masquerading as "Theme Packs".
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u/Mexetudo S2\S3\Nexus5\Nexus6P\Note8\Note10+\S23U\S26U 7d ago
Because then you're also downgrading a bunch of other things.
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u/Istartedthewar 7d ago
My main right now is a Galaxy A36 and it's perfectly fine. Initially bought it as a temp after breaking my previous phone, but kept with it as it's good enough. Anyways, A57 is $400. For that price a used or refurb two year old flagship will almost always be a better all-rounder than a new midrange.
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u/TwoToedSloths 7d ago
Your argument would be better if you suggested people buy flagship devices with a worse SoC. People buy those (Pixels) -- so there you go.
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u/someNameThisIs 7d ago
Yeah I have an A56 and performance wise it's totally fine, everything runs smooth. I don't game really on it so I doubt a more powerful SoC would be that noticeable.
They only thing I don't really like abut it is the camera and slower software updates compared to Samsungs flagship.
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u/5YNT4X_ERR0R 7d ago
SoC matters a lot. When it’s not pushed to the max, it’s consuming less power. Also helps with future-proofing since new apps being developed may be more processor intensive.
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u/SuperYuuRo 7d ago
because muuuh AI, muh Pixel has such a good AI bro it couldnt even set the timers but its the future!!!
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u/Careless_Rope_6511 Pixel 11 Pro XL 7d ago
Samsung A57 is good enough and it's like 300$.
Cameras are shit. Real shit. If I have to bust my Sony RX100 III out of storage just to have good image quality, the phone is not worth using even when it's cheaper than an R18+ eroge dakimakura.
"clean Android"
A decade ago I'd have cared about stock Android. These days I really don't, stock Android means "Some Assembly Required". We're not at the point where a vendor's OS skin pegs all SoC cores to 100% just doing animations.
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u/of3d 3d ago
It keeps amaze me, how a leviathan like Google manages time and time again to fuck-up so badly
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u/DuckHunt83 3d ago
It's what they do. They could be the best, but their left hand and right hand are being run on two different brains.
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u/QuietApplication5734 2d ago
It's because they don't want to spend the money. There was a leaked document a while ago about the Tensor G6 and how they wanted to go with an old GPU for cost-cutting measures.
They are focused on their ad revenue and services. I feel like even though the amount of money Google has put into their Pixel lineup, they could walk away at any time if they feel like it's not making them enough money.
This is why sometimes we see Google put more effort into iOS apps instead of Android.
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u/ttman05 S8+ 7d ago
Tensor is one thing that needs to go to the Google Graveyard. If Google wants to charge flagship prices, they need to have a flagship SoC.
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u/oli_ramsay 6d ago
But they won't. They'll spend that extra money on marketing trying to make it look like a premium device instead.
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u/QuietApplication5734 2d ago
I love my Pixel 10 Pro XL device mainly for the camera. I also have a Samsung S26 Ultra that I use as a daily. I really only use the Pixel when I'm going on vacation for its camera, but mainly keep it as a backup in case my main device breaks.
When I'm using my Pixel device, it really feels like an upper mid-range device compared to my S26 Ultra. There's nothing wrong with that, it's a solid device, but it's a shame what they're charging the device for.
There are just little things that add up with the Pixel experience that's frustrating compared to Samsung, like the lack of customization. If you go with the default Pixel launcher, you're stuck with that stupid search bar on the home screen and you can't get rid of it. The grid properties too is lacking and there's no double tap to lock the screen.
Then it's missing routines and modes that I love with Samsung. And yeah, you can download third-party apps to get around this, but it's not nearly as good as having something baked into the OS.
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u/MakkHergelo67 5d ago
For me what matters is not to overheat. Because these shits overheat all the time.
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u/MysteriousBeef6395 Poco F7 Pro, HOS3 7d ago
unless you have a tensor chip it seems that none of these would slow down down over the years
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u/Dislike24 7d ago
This are all 2026 chips though? We are still in 2026
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u/Abba_Fiskbullar 7d ago
The Elite Gen 6 will show up on Chinese flagships soon, and then in mainstream phones starting next year.
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u/Final_Economist_9218 3d ago
I currently use a Pixel 11 Pro (previously an OP 15). My friends and I, who currently use Apple 18 Pro, don't notice any difference.
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u/I-24 7d ago edited 7d ago
Overall results of the tests.