r/AskEurope • • 1d ago

Culture What is something that French people and Spaniards have in common?

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u/juanvvc 1d ago

Crème brûlée/catalana. Both countries believe they are the original inventors and the other copied it.

Also, allioli. Same situation

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u/CloudsAndSnow Switzerland 1d ago

also Madeleines, and gâteau des rois/tarta de reyes and probably many more!

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u/Four_beastlings in 1d ago

And mayonnaise

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u/JeanDusapin France 1d ago

Nobody in french believes spaniards copied crème brûlée because nobody in france has heard of a spanish version

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u/BellaFromSwitzerland Switzerland 17h ago

Crema catalana > crème brûlée

You heard it from me

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u/skyduster88 & 8h ago

Crema catalana > crème brûlée

They're different?

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u/BellaFromSwitzerland Switzerland 2h ago

Yes. Crème brûlée is kind of bland. Crema catalana has got spices

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u/JeanDusapin France 17h ago

Truly devastating considering how much the swiss are known for their culinary tastes lol

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u/SeptemberSoup 13h ago

Wow, really? As a Catalan that's surprising, I thought it'd be like mayonnaise with both sides fighting for it lol

It's called "Crema catalana" btw, not really a Spanish dish (as in, just like Paella valenciana is specific to València) unless you want to get into politics.

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u/JeanDusapin France 12h ago edited 9h ago

Im pretty sure basically every dish is originally specific to a region, you wouldn't say "uh akshually 🤓☝️ bolognese sauce isn't italian" because it's from bologna. Yeah sure, it's in italy. Same as valencia or catalonia. If you want me to say your crema catalana is not spanish then declare independence. Until then, catalonia is part of spain and the adjective spanish applies to catalan people

Anyway never heard of a fight over mayonnaise either. Idk what you guys are fighting over but leave us out of this lol

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u/schlaminator 8h ago

"Bolognese" is the French name for a type of Italian Ragout that usually goes with pasta, which is actually different from "Sauce Bolognese".

Sauce Mayonnaise is probably also picked up from Spaniards, back when the French occupied Menorca. When the French claim some food as their invention, it's really just a French name for a something they picked up somewhere else. The French aren't unique in stealing dishes and renaming them, pretty much every nation does that.

Crema Catalan is also a much more genuine dish, Creme Brulee always feels more like putting lipstick on a pig. It's a simple dessert, no need to over complicate it, it doesn't get better than Crema Catalan no matter how much you try. Because Crema Catalan doesn't have the need or claim to be anything special, it's just a simple, tasty dessert.

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u/Tielsie 19h ago

Yeah first time I am hearing about a Spanish version

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u/dekascorp Monaco 10h ago

Grew up on the Côte d’Azur, never heard of that either

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u/Alarmed_Scientist_15 Germany 56m ago

They aren’t even the same thing.

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u/Ur-Than France 1d ago

Mostly true where I am (south of France) but I think we share the general same outlook on life : we have to work for life but we don't want to live for work.

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u/DistinctScientist0 Spain 1d ago

Terrace culture. In both countries the preferred default at a café or bar is to sit outside when socialising.

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u/NuclearMaterial Ireland 1d ago

Helps when it isn't pissing down all year like in Ireland and lots of the UK. We prefer huddling indoors in pubs.

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u/laluLondon 1d ago

Belgium has a terrace culture and it rains a lot. From my experience, it feels like it rains more in Brussels than in London.

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u/NuclearMaterial Ireland 1d ago

I wasn't including the southeast of England in that "most of the UK." Scotland and parts of Wales would have as much rain as Ireland.

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u/laluLondon 1d ago

It rains more in Brussels than in Dublin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_average_precipitation

Cardiff and Belfast have more rain, but still, it rains enough to demonstrate it's not just the rain stopping terrace culture.

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u/polybotria1111 Spain 1d ago

In Northern Spain it rains more than in Dublin or London too

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u/reinadeluniverso Spain 16h ago

And we have people in terraces all day too.

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u/synalgo_12 Belgium 1d ago

I do feel like terrace culture really amped up due to covid in Belgium. I know that in Antwerp they loosened the rules for getting an outdoor seating license during lockdown and even though those have been dialed back there are still so many more (winter) terraces than there used to be. 

I remember living in Barcelona for a while in 2011/2012 and coming back and having reverse culture shock about the lack of outdoor seating. Now the gap is a lot smaller. 

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u/Many-Gas-9376 Finland 1d ago

The Finnish tradition of kalsarikänni removes the whole hassle of going out in the first place.

Pantsdrunk (stylized as Päntsdrunk; Finnish: kalsarikännit, ˈkɑls̠ɑriˌkænːitⓘ) is a form of drinking culture, originating in Finland, in which the drinker consumes alcoholic drinks at home dressed in very little clothing, usually underwear, with no intention of going out. 

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u/NuclearMaterial Ireland 1d ago

Sounds like my average Friday night in the summer when it was too hot.

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u/Sky-is-here Andalusia (Spain) 1d ago

Bro someone help the fines they are struggling 😭

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u/theErasmusStudent 1d ago

It rains a lot in France too

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u/xander012 United Kingdom 19h ago

Also both of our countries have a strong affinity to the black stuff.

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u/stepp_back_a_bit 18h ago

if the rain stopped in ireland for more than a day we wouldn't know what to do with ourselves out there

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u/Any-Republic-4269 1d ago

Sitting outside has definitely become more French in the UK in the last, well, forty years

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u/IndianSummer201 18h ago

I think a lot of countries in Europe have terrace culture. Definitely big here in the Netherlands.

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u/Cultural-Debt11 1d ago

This is just normal

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u/GiantKingCamel 1d ago

Portugal too

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u/Viva_il_Panificio 1d ago

Not serious answer:

They're both western democracies based on the rule of law and basic principle of equality of all human beings. They share a very long history, from the ancient Romans to Christianity, Enlightenment and more. They also, happy or not, share a great deal of the future.

Actual answer:

Absolutely nothing! The French eat frogs! And the Spaniards throw goats off buildings!

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u/davidptm56 Spain 1d ago

You made me remember I haven't thrown my goat from the bell tower today. Thank you, kind stranger!

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u/Viva_il_Panificio 1d ago

¡De nada! 

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u/ElKaoss Spain 1d ago

Hurry up or you will be late to killing a bull.

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u/Visible_Ad_416 1d ago

tf i genuinely had no idea we did

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u/GabrielaM11 1d ago

A serious commitment to long meals, good food, and treating eating as a social event rather than a chore

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u/GN_10 England 1d ago

A good work life balance, and shops closing briefly for lunch time. Rest after lunch time is highly valued in both countries.

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u/Electronic_West_View Spain 20h ago

Sorry, you fell for a cliché

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u/Longjumping_Test_760 1d ago

Both countries supported Ireland both militarily and politically against England during the English occupation of Ireland.

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u/GN_10 England 1d ago

It was a British occupation, not an English one.

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u/These-Ad-7155 1d ago

Good thing a million people can eat semantics 

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u/Longjumping_Test_760 1d ago

The Anglo Norman invasion of Ireland was mid 1100’s and the formation of Great Britain was early 1700’s approx so I suppose one could divide the occupation into 2 phases.

The Normans who originally occupied originally were French or from French ancestry. The settled, intermarried and generally sided with the Irish against the English.

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u/GN_10 England 1d ago

Again.. who's the "English"? Aristocrats?

Or Westminster which, at time consisted of English, Welsh, Scottish, and Irish politicians?

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u/Different_Dog5827 21h ago

Especially southern French are very similar to Spaniards! Love for food and sobremesa, caring for friends and family and they don’t have such individualist attitude which central and Northern Europeans have. Also they “holiday” in similar way