r/BIFLNL • • 4d ago

Discussie Is a MacBook BIFL? Why and why not?

Are you overall happy with your purchase?

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u/wouterkaas 4d ago

If you plan on living for 5-10 years then it's definitely BIFL. Given that no computer is even close to BIFL because of the constant rapid developments, I'm convinced that a Macbook is as close as you can get. I have a 2020 M1 Macbook Pro that's still running more than fine. I don't do really heavy stuff (like extensive video editing or whatever) on it, so I guess that helps in prolonging its live in terms of workability as well.

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u/lafeber 4d ago

The problem is that at some point, they stop updating the OS. I've had a 2011 Macbook Air that still works, apart from the fact that there's no longer OS/Safari updates. NB: I had to replace the battery, which back then was still possible by hand (before they glued it).

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u/wouterkaas 4d ago

A 15 year old notebook that's still working fine sounds pretty good to me though.

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u/trxxruraxvr 4d ago

Without security updates it will get quite risky to use it for any personal stuff like online banking, so it depends on what you want to use it for.

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u/lafeber 4d ago

MacBook hardware quality is top notch 👌

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u/Finn_Storm 4d ago

This is why I use old enterprise laptops and then install Linux on them. I don't need anything fancy on my laptop beyond basic browsing and a terminal interface, while still getting security updates.

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u/Loezzel 4d ago

This is my problem. My MacBook from 2012 works fine, but cannot take the newest updates anymore.

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u/trxxruraxvr 4d ago

If you have some IT skills you can always install linux on it, there's enough guides on the internet.

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u/thomasmoors 4d ago

ElementaryOS has a nice mac look and feel to it out of the box

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u/runawaylemon 4d ago

Same here, posting this from my M1 Macbook Air which still works great. The battery life has gotten much worse (from up to 9 hours down to about 3) but is still more than passable and better than any Windows laptop I've ever had even when new.

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u/Krullenbos 4d ago

No computer is ever close to BIFL, but if you plan to buy a computer with usage for at least a decade, then yes, MacBooks, or Apple computers in general are as close as BIFL as you want.

I'm still using my 2015 Intel MacBook Pro as a server to my personal collection of movies and tv shows, while I bought a new M2 Macbook Air a while ago. Even though the yearly upgrades make computers increasingly faster each year, I don't see the need to upgrade this laptop for the forseeable future since most of what I do is browsing and some light photo editing on this computer.
Even my desktop Mac is something I won't upgrade anytime soon since it's fast enough and all my software works perfectly fine.

It can be (it is) a steep price to invest in one, but it's a great investment if you ask me. Depending on what you plan to do with it of course.

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u/TimotheusIV 4d ago

It’s in my opinion the most BIFL a laptop you can buy.

Build quality is absolutely above most other brands but what I think is the absolute best part of it is: it’s MacOS and it’s unbeatable integration between software and all apple hardware like airpods, macbooks and iPhones.

Windows truly enshittifies itself with every single release. Ads, bloatware, shitty AI features. Forced integration with other garbage and half-baked Microsoft products. It’s got to the point i’m never touching a Microsoft product ever again.

MacOS today is fast, sleek and unobtrusive and it is still just as fast, sleek and unobtrusive 5 years from now. I have a Macbook Pro from 2013. Works perfectly fine. Sure MacOS has it’s own issues but they pale in comparison to using the absolute dogshit that is modern Windows.

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u/In_win 4d ago

Reddit gave me the answer

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u/kytheon 4d ago

The universe gave you a sign.

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u/Ascension_84 4d ago

M'n Macbook Pro uit 2021 doet het nog steeds perfect, is snel, krijgt updates, top aankoop dus. De generatie Macbooks met Apple CPU's zijn echt heel goed. De kinderziektes zijn er wel uit (zoals die toetsenbord issues met eerdere versies).

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u/meukbox 4d ago

uit 2021

Iets van 5 jaar oud dat nog steeds werkt lijkt mij nog geen bewijs.

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u/Ascension_84 4d ago

Niet alleen nog werkt maar ook qua performance nog top is.

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u/QuintusDias 4d ago

No of course not. No computer, laptop, cell phone or anything like that has anything to do at all with BIFL.

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u/MoeX_ 4d ago

I've used all of mine at least 5 years, and used them intensively!

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u/VincentxH 4d ago

This month they'll stop main linux support for x32. So if you keep to linux, you might be able to stretch it. Apple hasn't shown that dedication yet.

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u/kytheon 4d ago

My outdated MacBook Air says no.

They do tend to last 5 years full power and another 5 years holding on.

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u/meukbox 4d ago

My 7 year old Lenovo Yoga is still going strong.

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u/mkost92 4d ago

Took my Asus to 11 or 12 years, only with some failing battery cells and no Win7 support. Current MSI is 10 years old, been getting hot lately.

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u/thomasmoors 4d ago

No laptop is bifl however a macbook can be really good quality for money indeed

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u/Professional-Math518 4d ago

Met Macs ben je veel afhankelijker van wat Apple in haar onmetelijke wijsheid besluit. De Samsung Ultrabook kon ik gewoon van Linux voorzien en die is na 11 jaar nog steeds mijn 'daily driver'. De MacBook Air uit 2024 gebruik ik nauwelijks dus die zal ook wel lang meegaan.

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u/trxxruraxvr 4d ago

Op macs kan je ook linux installeren

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u/Professional-Math518 4d ago

Niet op de nieuwere m serie.

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u/trxxruraxvr 3d ago

Alleen de allernieuwste nog niet, en dat gaat wel kunnen voordat apple stopt om daar updates voor te maken.

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u/Professional-Math518 3d ago

Wellicht, maar dat blijft minder zeker. En de vraag blijft waarom je dan specifiek een Mac zou willen. Upgrades en reparaties zijn bijvoorbeeld vaak veel lastiger.

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u/trxxruraxvr 3d ago

Eens hoor, ik zou zelf ook geen mac kopen maar liever iets waar ik gelijk linux op kan zetten. Mijn voorkeur zou dan echter ook weer niet uitgaan naar Samsung.

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u/Professional-Math518 2d ago

Van mij ook niet eerlijk gezegd. Maar hij werkt verder nog steeds prima met zelfs nog een redelijke accuduur