r/BeAmazed • • 6h ago

Skill / Talent How was this all calculated?

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u/Below-Average-528 4h ago

I used to know a guy who worked for a transportation company that specialized on large transports. Such a transport takes years of planning, coordinating with police, field trips to check the current state because a lot of maps are wrong and so on. Bridges may not be as strong as offically declared. You have to balance the cost of dismantling obstacles against the cost of taking another route or not doing the transport at all.

It's a crazy detailed process with almost no tolerance for mistakes. You really don't want to get stuck with some industrial vessel weighing hundreds of tons.

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u/TerponadeTea 4h ago

Yeah I would imagine the actual Space Shuttle being kind of a pain to have to detour around on the way to work if it got left there for a while

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u/Below-Average-528 4h ago

You could put it on some jacks and let people drive under it while you are figuring out what to do next. Or maybe build a museum around it.

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u/TerponadeTea 4h ago

"Take a left after the Shuttle underpass, then you can't miss it"

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u/chef_in_va 2h ago

Everyone gets a free hardhat!

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u/jaxxxtraw 1h ago

Absolutely, but the locals have definitely known about this movement well in advance.

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u/TerponadeTea 1h ago

Did you not read the comment I was replying to? I'm talking about "if it got stuck"

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u/jaxxxtraw 1h ago

I did. And I'm just saying everyone in the vicinity knew about the movement and were advised that there might be delays, as happens when moving large loads. Of course, there might be non-locals who get caught out.

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u/TerponadeTea 1h ago

Uh huh. And my comment is talking about IF IT GOT STUCK

So like, not the movement and delays that were advised ahead of time. But rather, a space shuttle just living in the middle of Maple Street indefinitely.

See how that's a different type of inconvenience from the one the locals were prepared for?

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u/DramaticPinkumni 3h ago edited 1h ago

Watched a doc about the SR71 the other day and it mentioned how they cleared space along the roadways before transporting from Skunk Works in Burbank to Area 51 for testing

Funny enough, they got into an accident along the way and paid a bunch of hush money to keep the person that hit them from reporting it

Edit: here's a link to post about it

https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/s/V9XOEsSYRl

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u/Healthy-Change-9060 2h ago

I always wonder about that. Do thet sign a contract? I am curious in terms of politics. What's to stop a politician from taking bribes from a lobbyist, donating the money to charity, and then outing the lobbyist to the public?

What's to stop a politician from going back on their word? How do these companies and governments ensure compliance with a pay off?

What's to stop that person from reporting it to the news as soon as they got paid?

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u/quietobserver1 2h ago

I imagine politicians are motivated by the prospect of continued future money from a happy donor.

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u/DigitalUnlimited 2h ago

lawsuits. that's really the only recourse in my understanding is they can sue to get the money back

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u/Healthy-Change-9060 1h ago

"Sorry I eated it"

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u/DigitalUnlimited 1h ago

Taste like money

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u/6a6566663437 13m ago

Do thet sign a contract?

Yes. They sign a non-disclosure agreement with the government. That agreement also involves waiving their first amendment rights when it comes to the secret subject.

What's to stop a politician from taking bribes from a lobbyist, donating the money to charity, and then outing the lobbyist to the public?

Bribery laws. They don't require the politician to actually do what the lobbyist is paying for. Just the solicitation and receipt of the money is enough.

What's to stop a politician from going back on their word?

The desire to receive more bribe money.

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u/GoldDragon149 52m ago

In this case, the person who was paid signed an NDA that presumably had pretty hefty financial penalties for breaking it. Sure they could speak out, but they would be out of luck in court trying to avoid the penalty. You can write an NDA about most topics and it would be enforceable by the law if signed.

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u/Below-Average-528 3h ago

Keeping this secret makes it extra tricky. The SR71 is not exactly small

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u/st1tchy 2h ago

If it's like most other planes, you can relatively easily remove the wings, verts and other things and ship it in pieces.

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u/FabianN 1h ago

Look at the pictures of the boxes they were transported in. 

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u/NachoManAndyCabage 4m ago

However much it was, they didnt get enough.

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u/Educational_Remove58 1h ago

I do exactly that for a living and you are correct. Years of planning, permits beyond permits beyond permits. Tons of people to coordinate. Street intersections to rebuild. Bridges to analyze. Wires to lift/bury underground.

Starts with a phonecall about moving something ludicrously unpractical to move and a bunch of madlads already finding solutions to move it.

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u/L4rgo117 55m ago

"So, uhh, first I need to verify you are, A: sitting, and B: not drinking anything. Good? Good. So anyway I got a fantastic deal on govdeals but there's one small catch..."

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u/RegorHK 49m ago

How do you coordinate the permits? As in request status and approval status. Do you have a database?

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u/SubjectC 1m ago

Years though? That seems just infeasible. How are they supposed to know they need to move a space shuttle 3 years from now?

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 3h ago

Yeah I had to move drilling equipment over a bridge to a barrier island. The bridge wasn’t strong enough for the drill rig, not even close. So we flew them over with helicopters lol.

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u/BannedAgain-573 1h ago

Crazy a bridge couldn't handle what a helicopter could lol

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u/Victor_Korchnoi 3h ago

My roommate used to do the planning for transporting the SpaceX rockets from LA to Cape Canaveral.

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u/Below-Average-528 2h ago

Is that by ship?

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u/Doccyaard 2h ago

I work with that and you explained it very well. Once I was driving a bridge that we had to transport and someone was panicking because they noticed they had missed a piece of metal poking up from the road we had to go down, as a part of an old gate. Was fairly easy to avoid it with the wheel lines as I could look underneath it. But it was clear he was embarrassed and feared he had delayed the whole project, if just for a little bit. With the amount of planning going into these things it’s very rare big mistakes are made.

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u/all_fair 2h ago

So basically it's as hard as it seems

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u/DingbatMcgeee 2h ago

And then the damn trees kept growing just to make it easier

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u/AltruisticPicture971 1h ago

All that work and some dude parks a big ass boat in his driveway or puts an addition on his house.  

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u/def-not-bot 1h ago

I wonder how big you'd need to make a dirigible to lift one of those 300m turbine blades.  Transporting them is a nightmare because they're so long, but they're probably pretty light.  You'd probably need to clad it in something to make it catch less wind though.

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u/shlerm 1h ago

Great day out for all the family. Worth the effort. 

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u/amburroni 48m ago

>Bridges may not be as strong as officially declared.

I find that really really concerning

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u/Below-Average-528 34m ago

Trust but verify.

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u/mortarchofgrief 47m ago

So a simple thing compared to getting the craft safely into space

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u/craneguy 43m ago

I do this for a living. Sometimes the planning process is months, but usually it's all complete in a couple of weeks and the rest is waiting on permits. With super-heavy loads, every bridge and structure on the route has to be analyzed by an engineer and that can take a very long time. It's a back and forth with every state on the way until everyone is satisfied the haul will be safe.

1,000,000 lb move