r/BlackPeopleTwitter • ☑️ 🧚🏿 Reclaiming my peace 🧘🏿 • 1d ago

Boo-effin-hoo for them

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u/SierraStar7 1d ago

I don’t know who they were who did it, but after my employer has been pushing us to use AI for everything, they got hit with being over budget $200,000 due to token use in one month. 

Thank you whoever you are, because now the company has halted using AI unless it’s Copilot or a free version of another product. 

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u/unholyswordsman 1d ago

Malicious compliance.

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u/Belyal 1d ago

This! Employers all pushing everyone to use AI. So use it all the time! Crank those bills!

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u/MisterProfGuy 1d ago

It doesn't even need to be malicious. Amazon has a project where agents just kept deciding to restart the entire framework they were using over and over again instead of fixing the errors and accidentally spent nearly 2 million dollars. That's the thing people miss when they talk about error rates.

Sure, humans might make errors, but they make them at a human pace. AI can make a lower error rate, but make them at a super human pace continuously, which is a fuckton more errors.

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u/LIONLDN 1d ago

Yeah, the tokens are a factor that many businesses (both big & small) don't seem to realise nor properly account for 😅💸

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u/theREALbombedrumbum 1d ago

If you're a software dev using AI to solve your code, you can use tokens like gambling. Oh, you've spent N tokens so far and it still doesn't work? How about spending N+1 and seeing if that will finally solve it?

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u/poorperspective 1d ago

The world’s just one big casino. At least that’s what tech bros want it to be. They think they’ll be the dealer.

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u/teddy_tesla ☑️ 22h ago

I honestly think that's a big draw of AI. It feels so good when you finally one shot one of your problems like all of the stories you hear about that you forget about the bad stuff

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u/joemoffett12 1d ago

Ai finally becomes useful and now it’s more expensive than humans for the same results on a lot of things. Now in roles where it’s useful the best employees are the ones who will spend less. And management’s dumb ass sure ain’t gonna do that.

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u/blakezilla 1d ago edited 16h ago

I’m able to use it pretty heavily in my workflow and I (well, my company) pretty much never spend more than $100 a month. GPT6 Luna for implementation is borderline free.

I’m not even an AI apologist or token maxxer and getting all downvotes just for using the technology is crazy.

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u/Theduckisback 1d ago

...for now. I wouldnt get too dependent on it.

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u/blakezilla 16h ago

Inference costs on the small models have been profitable for a long time now, and their cost to run has continued to drop with better caching and other harness features.

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u/spiegro ☑️ 1d ago

Sol 6.1 is super efficient too. Still needs human intervention for a lot of stuff and session degradation is real.

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u/rpkarma 1d ago

Both Luna 6 and Sol 6.1 make the weirdest mistakes though for development. Astra 6 doesn’t, but is more expensive obviously 

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u/righthandofdog 1d ago

Similar happened at my wife's company. Worse, AI token prices are being held WAY below cost because of the investment money pouring in. The only way AI usage can possibly work is if token prices drop a couple orders of magnitude, which COULD happen with more billions poured into model optimization research and a couple more generations of hardware investment. But THAT means all the billions already poured into data centers is all wasted and that hardware will never pay off.

AI is a pyramid scheme and the collapse will be ugly

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u/Grouchy_Coconut_5463 1d ago

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u/righthandofdog 1d ago

No oceans were boiled in the making of this meme

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u/Material_Taste_2510 1d ago

if they resorted to copilot, then it’s worse than they’re letting on

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u/SierraStar7 1d ago

That’s what I said too! Things are definitely pretty bad. Already looking for a new job in this shitty economy. 

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u/its_JustColin 1d ago

Copilot lets you select model usually lol unless they turned that off then run

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u/misdreavus79 1d ago

They tell me to use lower models to save on costs. No sir, I'm using Opus 5.5 on max effort for anything and everything, and the only reason I'm not using Fable is because I'm locked out.

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u/Fantastic_Plenty_665 1d ago

This makes me so happy to be a hydraulic technician. I abore this regression of society that we have welcomed with AI.

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u/MJsHoopEarring 1d ago

Abhor 😉

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u/non_newtonian_gender 1d ago

An LLM is going to tell someone at your work to find a leak with their hand. 

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u/illlojik ☑️ 1d ago

Google “How burn through tokens as fast as possible.” Quite helpful. Copy and save the result before they take it down.

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u/dannyboy731 1d ago

Yep, one of the senior architects at my company reportedly burned between $10K-$100K on a project and now the execs are cracking down on everyone.

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u/McNemo 1d ago

Stories that give me slightly more hope jn the current hellscape

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u/skynetempire 1d ago

Don’t worry, AI reverse engineering is going to ruin everything. There’s a theory that this is why Rockstar is releasing the game early and on PC too.

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u/GodChangedMyChromies 10h ago

Me when I lock Claude in the AI torture chamber on the company dime

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u/heatherjasper 1d ago

It's so lame that, instead of implementing better wages and benefits, companies would rather yeet several millions of dollars into a clunky, stupid system that everyone else knew would ultimately fail. And then they go back to human workers anyway.

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u/outsidehere 1d ago

If there's any possibility that an employer can replace you without losing your performance and keeping costs down, they will pull that trigger every single time

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u/alwayssunnyinskyrim 1d ago

We’ve learned that they will pull that trigger regardless of performance. They will happily take a non-functioning AI over a hardworking employee right up until the AI costs more money.

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u/outsidehere 1d ago

Exactly. You're right. If there's a chance to get you off the books, they will do it. It may backfire and cost them way more than it'd cost to employ you but they don't care

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u/rmslashusr 1d ago

I don’t know why that’d be surprising or even controversial. I don’t see any households shunning digital photos because they feel bad about the people they used to pay to develop their film rolls. No one is going to pay another person for results they can achieve without labor through technology, whether that’s companies or individuals

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u/MrSnippets 1d ago

If a Company could choose between raising their workers‘ wages for 1 Million Dollars or invest 1 Million Dollars into Union-busting, they‘ll choose the latter everytime.

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u/ShikaMoru 1d ago

Its always "business" when it comes to them sacrificing you but they're "family" when its you not prioritizing them

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u/Noblesseux 1d ago

I think part of it is that the c suites (and frankly big parts of middle management) don't actually know what their employees do and what the complexities of their jobs are because they never talk to them.

When you look down on people like that, it's very easy to convince yourself that you can super easily replace them because "they're just making updates to the website" or whatever because you don't know all the complexities involved in that job. But when you try to swap them for AI, suddenly all of that institutional knowledge an experience that was baked into that worker is now something that you have to figure out.

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u/TheMagicalMatt 1d ago

And it's only because of expensive bills and insufficient living conditions that people went back to those jobs. These companies would crumble if we weren't bullied into accepting the bare minimum.

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u/RedditGreenit 1d ago

The AI grift was capital trying to seize back the gains labor made during the "essential worker" and "work from home" era COVID provided. Nothing shocks the "bootstrap" mentality than realizing you're not a generous "Job creator", and that your success as a owner relies on the labor of your employees.

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u/AncientCrust 1d ago

One can only believe the bootstrap mentality if they know nothing about labor history. The lengths employers will go to to avoid fair wages is insane. Soldiers, machine guns and a couple times, even bombing from planes.

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u/unicornfairyprincess 22h ago

I believe this 100%. Labor gained the upper hand and here comes capital smacking us back down with surpluses, RTO, and now AI

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u/Ok_Season_1993 1d ago

i ran out of fucks to give for these evil parasites

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u/MuffinPuff ☑️ 1d ago

This is damn near verbatim the experience I had with the AT8T AI chat system last week.

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u/GeniusOfLove74 Dominic Monaghan stalker 👀 1d ago

Oh, we're suddenly 'essential' again. I think I've heard this somewhere before, maybe in 2020?

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u/__JDQ__ 1d ago

This feels like how self-checkout has cost many businesses more than they projected they would save.

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u/Tasty-Mulberry8073 1d ago

They brought self checkout to costco recently. It started off like a normal self check out for small orders. It must have gotten backed up or people were shoplifting because now they have people walking around with scanners who scan all the stuff in your basket and then tell you to go to the self checker and scan your card and your order pops up and you pay. So I guess do it your self didn't work out for them.

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u/Capital-Self-3969 1d ago

A lot of these people went full Captain Planet villain the moment they had a chance to dump people for AI.

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u/877-HASH-NOW 1d ago

AI is backfiring on these corporations and somehow their greed made them the only ones blind to it. We all saw this shit coming.

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u/WhompBiscuits 1d ago

That's always been the whole point of technology, for 200 years. Not to help workers, make them more efficient, etc. But to replace them entirely. Capitalists have always loathed workers, but need them because, well, they do the actual work. Whereas capitalists largely never.

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u/JPMoney81 1d ago

Anyone who lost their job to AI and has the employer come crawling back should say 'sure, I'll come back as soon as you let me unionize' and watch the employers turn various shades of angry.

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u/Mammoth-Glove3273 1d ago

And when the bubble bursts they’ll turn to us with their hands out for our tax dollars to save them.

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u/FiestyHackmin 1d ago

That part 👆🏿

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u/KaJaHa 14h ago

And our politicians will look down on them and whisper,

"Of course, here's another trillion"

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u/Haywoodjablowme1029 1d ago

I'm a paramedic, so far, I can't think of any job duties that AI can take from us, but I am sure the finance people are trying to find them.

I would be cool with self driving ambulances however, then my partner and I could both be doing patient care, and I like having help with that.

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u/MycologistSubject689 1d ago

I'm getting let go from a job I started in June because "they're leveraging AI to better fit business need" and 60% of the jobs I've looked at are all AI training. What the fuck are we DOING.

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u/rubber_moon 1d ago

I'm so glad I found a strong union job in the dev field. I'd be very anxious right now if I hadn't. F all these companies and governments, they're not your friend and you should hold them to account at every turn. Case in point, our pension pot is doing very well, it's in surplus, but they just had to investigate whether they should increase our contributions for the fun of it. Their independent report recommended just leaving things as they were but they still have this as an open thing that needs fixing.

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u/Hollywood_Co 1d ago

I WILL NEVER FORGET!

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u/TheAlmightyShadowDJ 1d ago

I for one am loving Sony getting fucked by AI

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u/stanley_leverlock 1d ago

Coworker: Hey could you read through this and tell me-

Me: NO, I'm not your AI proofreader.

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u/Elect2Toss ☑️ 1d ago

“If we could all rewind … we would have introduced [this] in a more thoughtful, slow way.”

The actual article was basically about higher ups admitting that maybe they'd moved too fast and that AI isn't the great replacement they thought it was. You know, things we could have told them if they ever cared to listen to employees.

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u/nefaeriest 1d ago

ruling class wants AI we demand UBIs - its our $$$$$

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u/Wasteofskin50 1d ago

True, but it is not like this is a new thing with employers.

They just thought that they finally had the magic bean... a worker who has no needs other than to work.

TB-SS!!

https://giphy.com/gifs/UltXc6UGJDWyPN5KKb

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u/Sorry-Secret-2347 1d ago

Smh those job postings…. Hey i know we fucked up but…… we need humans again

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u/Rude-Asparagus9726 1d ago

AI is great, but people are in WAY too much of a rush to implement it...

We need, at the minimum, basic checks on all AI output to ensure quality. I don't know why quality assurance went out the window for us the second robots got involved, but it's still just as important as it always was...

AI is a tool, it will not do the exact work you want for you.

It can HELP by doing a lot of the common, tedious, but ultimately easy work, but YOU still need to add the finishing touches and guidance, and also review the most complex things...

That's something Pros AND Antis seem to have trouble accepting...

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u/Consistent_Turn_42 1d ago

Yep, we are pushed to use AI on everything. It spend more time directing AI on what to do while I could have just done it myself.

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u/Careless-Balance-893 ☑️ 1d ago

Didn't Kroger just lay off a bunch of people recently because of ai?

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u/Mayor-Citywits 1d ago

Literally not true at all lol 

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u/HTC864 ☑️ 19h ago

This shouldn't be a don't forget because of this particular instance. People should always understand that companies are not good or bad, they simply exist to make money. Your usefulness has always been and will always be to their bottom line. Their usefulness to you should always be to whatever your needs are.

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u/tehtris ☑️ 1d ago

Post that ends in 6 decides how I use my companies tokens allowance tomorrow.

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u/ElPrieto8 ☑️ 1d ago

Test run.

They'll not only do it again, they will use YOU to train it.

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u/ribbitman 1d ago

They're not pulling back though. This is made up. Most employers are embracing it. As they should.

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u/loki2002 1d ago

They really shouldn't be. It is a fad and just like every other tech fad the bubble will burst and people will move on.

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u/LoppyNachos 1d ago

Just like how people moved on from the internet right?

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u/loki2002 1d ago

Just like how people moved on from "Internet of Things" and 3D TVs. Not to mention the dot-com bubble burst.

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u/LoppyNachos 1d ago

And yet we still use the internet everyday, just like AI will continue to get used everyday. I dont know why so many people think that "tHe BuBbLe BuRsTiNg" means all the technology and infrastructure is just gonna disappear overnight and nobody will ever talk about AI again

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u/Pimpwerx ☑️ 1d ago

...for now.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but agents are getting better. This is still very early days for AI. Agents will take your desk jobs. And once robots are more dexterous and power efficient, then they'll come for all the low-end jobs.

People are getting tricked into complacency because the first jobs being lost to AI are in the tech sector. But that's because that sector understands how to use agents better, so are more capable of replacing humans. But just wait for that entry bar to continue being lowered, while performance and efficiency of agents increases. There are not many jobs an AI-powered robot can't do. People need to take that very seriously. It's not a threat, it's an inevitability.

So any retreat right now is just temporary. The crossover will come when the cost of a robot + AI brain costs less per year than a human salary. Humans will lose that matchup 10 times out of 10. I expect a future where fast food restaurants are all robots with maybe one tech on hand for support. But why would you hire a human that gets sick and only works a quarter of the available hours in a week? Robots don't eat, sleep, or pee. They will be on the job around the clock. We are fucked. We just don't realize it yet.

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u/dalledeverre 1d ago

There won't be fast food restaurants because there won't be any people with any money to buy cheap mass-produced goods, once they've all lost their jobs to robots. When the robots are good enough to not only provide daily personal service to the wealthiest, but to repair and maintain each other, every other human being becomes a novelty at best and vermin at worse. Including the techs.

But, once there aren't any techs left who understand how any of this shit works, there also won't be anyone left to do anything about it developing to the point that the robots are the ones viewing the remaining humans as either novelties or vermin.

Either way, nobody seems to be programming these things to do anything about climate change so chances are jobs will be the very least of our problems after awhile.

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u/loki2002 1d ago

 I expect a future where fast food restaurants are all robots with maybe one tech on hand for support. But why would you hire a human that gets sick and only works a quarter of the available hours in a week? Robots don't eat, sleep, or pee. They will be on the job around the clock. 

They have been making this same exact threat for over 40 years in regards to fast food.

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u/Forshea 1d ago

I love reading comments from people confidently asserting future progress in technologies that they don't remotely understand

there's a very real possibility that the long-term-sustainable version of these agentic models have a capability that sits somewhere between the distilled open weight models like qwen and frontier models available today e.g. less than what claude opus can do right now

moore's law has been dead for more than a decade and people seem to think we're guaranteed to keep getting geometrical hardware efficiency gains because they thought it was a fundamental truth and not a loose observation