r/CFB • Florida State Seminoles • The Alliance • 24d ago

News [RossDellenger] Sen. Cory Booker, with Sen. Chris Murphy, has filed an amendment to the Protect College Sports Act to cap coaching salaries at $5 million a year, per a copy obtained by @YahooSports. It is one of 35+ amendments filed. Most of them have little chance of being accepted.

https://x.com/rossdellenger/status/2102776983956394073?s=46
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u/Okiegolfer Oklahoma Sooners • /r/CFB Donor 24d ago

Let’s be real ADs will just do the same thing with coaches that they do with players; pay the max allowed by the school and the coach gets an additional $10,000,000 from non-school NIL deals and endorsements.

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u/sokuyari99 Alabama Crimson Tide • Charlotte 49ers 24d ago

HC pays $5M, but also he’s going to be “president of football operations” which pays $8M a year

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u/AllTimeTy Missouri Tigers • /r/CFB Placer 24d ago

lol I didn’t even consider that they can give them a separate title that has no limit. I’m sure it’s unlikely, but a funny thought.

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u/sokuyari99 Alabama Crimson Tide • Charlotte 49ers 24d ago

I’d like to think a well written law doesn’t allow that. But I also know our current Congress…so coin flip chance?

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u/Hijakkr Virginia Tech Hokies • Techmo Bowl 24d ago

Suggesting it's a coin flip is generous of you.

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u/sokuyari99 Alabama Crimson Tide • Charlotte 49ers 24d ago

You’ve never seen how heavily weighted my coin is!

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u/Awesome_to_the_max Texas Longhorns • UTU Beaver Hunters 24d ago

That's already how it works. Most of the big money coaches salaries dont come from the University but from donors.

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u/forgotmyoldname90210 Florida State Seminoles 24d ago

This. Most of the money comes directly from Boosters, prearranged coaches' shows with local radio, TV and public appearance fees.

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u/reenactment Missouri Tigers 24d ago

Well you in head coaches defense. The head coach isn’t just a football coach and hasn’t been for the last 20 years. They are your primary academics recruiter and your biggest donor getter. It’s somewhat frustrating to be honest. I would love for the cap to be 5m. But if I’m the HC I am saying, that puts an end to all my responsibilities that are auxiliary to coaching football. The amount of crap they do is a bit over the top. But it’s legitimized by being the highest paid person on campus by a large margins.

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u/JayBuhnersHummer Paper Bag • Team Meteor 24d ago

Imagine if people got this excited over capping your profession. I get big money is a problem in college sports but stifling earning potential is stupid as fuck.

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u/BobbysSmile Alabama • Alabama A&M 24d ago

Exactly. Like a 30 second work around.

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u/9577_Sunset_blvd 24d ago

I really don’t understand the purpose of these headline rule change proposals when morons like me can see the workarounds and all the possible unintended consequences immediately after reading the rule.

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u/Ralphie_is_bae Colorado Buffaloes • Big 8 Renewal 24d ago

Ah yes. The Kawhi Leonard method

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u/Dangerous-Control-21 24d ago

Universities "we can't afford to pay players this much"

Congressman "let's cap coaches salaries then too and really help you out"

Universities "you'll pry massive coaches buyouts from my cold dead hands"

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u/SpiritFingersKitty Wake Forest • Georgia 24d ago

Golden Parachutes are the American way

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u/UCLA_FB_SUCKS UCLA Bruins • USC Trojans 24d ago

limit the things that organized labor can do, while letting organized big business do whatever's they want. That is as american as apple pie

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u/IceePirate1 Cincinnati Bearcats • Marching Band 24d ago

I'm surprised the universities are so against it. Where else would the coach go? Not like they could change careers and still be making the same amount

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u/No-Owl-6246 Arizona Wildcats 24d ago

The coach might actually have to go to the professional league to make professional money. The horror.

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u/srs_house Swaggerbilt 24d ago edited 24d ago

The crazy thing is that currently, a lot of coaches would take a pay cut to go to the pros.

"Current" top 15 - features Rhule at #8 and $11.79M, Deion comes in at #14 at $10.8M, Drink is #15 at $10.75M.

For the NFL list, at about the same price as those guys you have #13 Klint Kubiak getting $12M for coaching the Raiders.

These multi-billion dollar franchises are paying less than colleges are for guys who have never made the CFP. Rhule hasn't even beaten a ranked P4 team at any point in his career.

And that's with a fairly sizeable jump in NFL pay this year, last season there were guys with Super Bowl appearances making Day/Kiffin/Cignetti/Smart money.

Not just football, either. Tony Vitello basically took a pay cut to go from managing Tennessee baseball to the San Francisco Giants, not even accounting for the vastly different cost of living. That is a $4B franchise with 3 World Series rings this century vs a college team who has 1 CWS win ever.

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u/Mender0fRoads Missouri Tigers 24d ago

I agree it’s absurd, but it also makes sense.

The NFL has pretty strict rules on coach mobility. One team can’t steal another’s head coach if he’s under contract. Teams even need to give permission for assistants to interview for jobs a lot of the time.

If the Cowboys could steal Andy Reid from the Chiefs by paying him $40 million, you’d probably start seeing some drastic increases in NFL coach salaries, too.

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u/srs_house Swaggerbilt 24d ago

CFB teams could have stronger limits on poaching, too, but they choose not to because they're all scared that it'll impact their ability to hire what they think is a top coach. Bama will have to pay DeBoer his full $87M contract if they fire him, but he only has to pay them $10M to leave - and that drops to $8M at the end of this season and disappears entirely after like 3 years.

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u/tu-vens-tu-vens Alabama Crimson Tide 24d ago

It’s also that NFL players are more important for team success compared to coaches because they’re older/more developed/more consistent and they can stay for longer.

If you want a successful NFL team, your biggest ROI will come from signing Patrick Mahomes. In college, your biggest ROI comes from hiring Kirby Smart or Curt Cignetti – there’s no player who can have that kind of long lasting impact on a program.

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u/Fickle-Newspaper-445 Ohio State Buckeyes 24d ago

I don't think comparing salaries between college and the NFL is good without the context. When you look at it just strictly from the years tenured at the universities, the reason the top coaches are being paid the most is largely due to them having sustained success for multiple years. The only exception being Curt Cignetti at Indiana, and I'm sure if the Browns won the Super Bowl this year Todd Monken would be the highest paid coach of all time regardless of sport.

Just look at Minter and Kubiak on the NFL side. They're literally in their first year of being the head coach of anything. There's no one on the college side with one year of head coach experience that's in the top 15 that you showed. Bill Belichick is in his 2nd year and makes $10million/year and he's not even the top 15 of college coaches.

There's plenty of arguments to be had on if a college head coach should be making as much as they should, but comparing them to the NFL salaries isn't really a gotcha without context. Plus, as an Ohio State fan, what Ryan Day has had to go through, I'm perfectly fine with OSU paying him $12.5million.

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u/ClaudeLemieux Michigan Wolverines • NC State Wolfpack 24d ago

They do that now lol sad dusty may noises

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u/EmuMan10 Arizona State Sun Devils 24d ago

He got you a title before leaving. It’s fine lol

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u/Brenner- Utah Utes • Wyoming Cowboys 24d ago

It’d be more encouraging for coaches to jump to the NFL, but really it seems like nothing but good

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u/GoldenDom3r Notre Dame Fighting Irish 24d ago

Pretty limited spots there so it would only impact a handful of schools. 

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u/load_of_chode Ohio State Buckeyes 24d ago

Also NFL players are unionized so the power dynamic between coaches and players is different compared to college.

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u/Alt4816 24d ago

Also the NFL is already full of coaches. The NFL would have to fire some current coaches to make room and those fired coaches would then be available to be hired by colleges.

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u/andreasmiles23 Nebraska • Iowa State 24d ago

University boards overwhelmingly want a successful athletic program because it provides additional funding streams. Sure, the "athletic departments" are "separate" from the University, but think about the licensing for branding, the TV exposure, etc...

We've really fudged up this whole thing. And tbh, idk if the cat can go back into the bag. IMO the real "fix" would be creating a separate semi-pro league that licensed the brands from schools directly. No more of this, are they students or not, are the coaches state employees, etc etc. Fully seperate it and if we need to keep the aura of collegiate tradition to keep eyes on this developmental league, then so be it.

Then schools that don't get licensed out to the D-League can go back to fielding, you know, actual student-athletes.

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u/gerblnutz 24d ago

In almost every state a basketball or football coach is the highest paid public employee. Our society has no compass beyond greed and exploitation. The Grand Nagus would be proud.

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u/VirginiaMcCaskey Miami Hurricanes • Drexel Dragons 24d ago

Because there exists a market for coaching staff whose success determines millions in additional revenue. A good coach brings in a lot more money to a state school than a bad one.

There are other public employees that oversee large revenue operations and they're arguably underpaid, but there isn't a market for them in the same way there is for basketball/football coaches and it's not like DMV revenues go up or down drastically with changes in high level bureaucrats.

I don't think that's "greed" or "exploitation." There is greed and exploitation in college sports and it's the theft of player's labor by the schools.

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u/HookedOnBoNix Virginia Tech Hokies 24d ago

Yea the same people who will complain about this will also stop watching their team, stop going to games, and stop buying merch when they suck and call for people to get fired etc. This is the behavior that leads to this stuff. We have collectively made it in the best interest of these schools to go out and compete for the best coaches to come to them, because theres a shit ton on the line.

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u/FullySemiGhostGun Miami Hurricanes • Clemson Tigers 24d ago

The top down greedy mustache twirling villain is Reddit’s scapegoat with zero self awareness that entertainment is pretty much a bottom up fed system working as designed and everyone bitching it feeding into that machine.

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u/LazyOort Missouri Tigers • Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns 24d ago

The only state exceptions are pretty much the northeast and AK/HI, which coincidentally are all the states where the highest paid employee isn’t even close to $1M, let alone above that. HI’s university staff surgeon, the top public employee, makes $650k, and I can’t believe that their skill set is less valuable in any way compared to Jimbo.

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u/joka2696 UConn Huskies 24d ago

CT here, Uconn men's basketball coach Dan Hurley is tops in our state. Second is women's basketball coach Geno Auriemma.

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u/DanforthWhitcomb_ Georgia Bulldogs 24d ago

There are a lot of states that are exceptions, as the vast majority have the school chip in 12-15% of the bottom line salary and the private athletic association provides the rest of it.

Georgia for example has 6-7 people who are paid more by the state than Kirby is, and that holds for the NATS HC as well.

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u/walkingbicycles Texas A&M Aggies 24d ago

Will this apply retroactively? Asking for a friend

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u/Revenge_of_the_Khaki Michigan Wolverines 24d ago

The buyouts are what they should really go after. Basically kill any buyout worth more than 10% of the contract when that is more than $1M or something like that.

Fucking insane that some of the richest people in this country are failed public school coaches.

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u/414wtk Oklahoma Sooners 24d ago

I remember the outrage when Bob Stoops was making 5 million per year a while ago. A local writer pointed out “hey sounds like we could pay 100 players 40k each, and Stoops could take just 1 million per year”

40k for a broke kid from a broke family would do a whole lot!!!!

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u/fcukou Texas Longhorns • UMass Minutemen 24d ago

Nick Saban to Congress: "These are student athletes, not employees"

Congress to Nick Saba: "OK, well in that case, coaches should get paid like teachers"

Nick Saban: "Now hold on damn minute!"

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u/purplenyellowrose909 Minnesota • Little Brown Jug 24d ago

Sorry champ. We're only out here restricting what the kids can get paid

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u/pennant_fever Wisconsin Badgers • Big Ten 24d ago

This is likely exactly the point they’re trying to make with this proposed amendment.

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u/Jimbobsama Western Michigan Broncos • Team Chaos 24d ago

Helluva poison pill to make your point with

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u/pennant_fever Wisconsin Badgers • Big Ten 24d ago

It has no chance of passing. It’s purely for show, and point-making.

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u/Jimbobsama Western Michigan Broncos • Team Chaos 24d ago

I mean, the House is out of session anyway so the bill ain't going anywhere until Lame Duck session at the earliest. But amendments like these will get it sent back to committee

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u/puffadda Oklahoma Sooners • Ohio State Buckeyes 24d ago

I mean, good. The only way it should be taken seriously is if it also includes restrictions on coaching (and probably administrator) salaries.

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u/RayKitsune313 BYU Cougars 24d ago

Feels like any sort of federal law capping state worker’s salaries will have all sorts of problems from a legal perspective anyway

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u/JordanMiller406 Montana State Bobcats 24d ago edited 24d ago

Ding ding ding: laws capping Labor compensation isn't Constitutional.

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u/AlfredtheGreatBitch Baylor Bears 24d ago

Yep. And they’d have to be amended or updated constantly to keep up with cost-of-living increases and inflation.

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u/hybridsole Florida State Seminoles 24d ago

What if it was something like compensation cannot exceed 100x what the average state salaried employee is of that state?

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u/BitterYak 24d ago

Wouldn’t the athletes also be state workers though?

I’m definitely not a lawyer, but this whole thing feels like a weird culture war hill to die on for politicians.

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u/SpursUpSoundsGudToMe South Carolina • Presbyterian 24d ago

They aren’t “employees”, categorically speaking. But to your point, it doesn’t really matter for this particular topic: you can’t arbitrarily restrict potential income unless it’s mutually agreed on by both parties.

Relevant Tangent: Even if you could just set a number, it wouldn’t be feasible without robust (and mutually agreed upon) cap-circumvention rules. Conveniently this has been in the news recently! See: NBA, Clippers, Ballmer, etc…

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u/Nomahs_Bettah Michigan Wolverines • Alabama Crimson Tide 24d ago

Exactly. You can’t say that the kids are amateurs or semi-pros, but the top coaches get to make $13M a year and the TV deals are worth billions, more than many actual pro leagues in North America.

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u/enjoytheshow Illinois Fighting Illini 24d ago

Admin should be criticized like sports. Our highest paid employees in the state are football basketball and then the fucking university chancellor.

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u/raised_by_toonami Iowa Hawkeyes 24d ago

Even for show a $5m cap considering what most people, staff, players, etc own is still ridiculously toothless.

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u/elgenie Iowa Hawkeyes • Brown Bears 24d ago

It’d be a poison pill if it were included in a passed bill that otherwise would be what the poison-targeted group wanted.

As a proposed amendment it’s just (attempted) messaging.

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u/MartinezForever Nebraska • Nebraska Wesleyan 24d ago

Good, the bill shouldn't pass without similar restrictions on coaching salaries.

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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 24d ago

A real poison pill would be that any head coach of a public institution can't be higher than #5 highest paid person on the list on public school employees. No coach should make more than a college president

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u/the-other_one UConn Huskies • Michigan Wolverines 24d ago

Labor always gets the short end of the stick 

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u/sgtshenanigans Notre Dame Fighting Irish 24d ago

But it's weird the coaches are labor too and considering how much buyouts cost schools you'd think politicians would be all for making sure their favorite school doesn't get fleeced.

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u/ShotFirst57 Michigan State Spartans 24d ago

Players only have to deal with it for 4-5 years and a vast majority of Players it wont impact. Coaches would have to deal with it permanently. You can at least sell well the kids will make more in the nfl. For college coaches they would be permanently restricting their income.

Also, for the record, I dont like what they are doing with players either. Im mainly just saying the blow back to doing it to coaches would be a lot higher.

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u/cubs_2023 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 24d ago

Could you not also sell that the coaches could make more in the NFL? Nothing is stopping them from leaving college and taking an NFL job

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u/ShotFirst57 Michigan State Spartans 24d ago

You could but college coaching is sold as a more permanent job. College athlete is not.

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u/SomaliRection Auburn Tigers • Wisconsin Badgers 24d ago

Right now, most college coaches are making more than most NFL coaches. And it’s generally considered a more stable gig. There’s little incentive to leave the college game for coaches unless you are about to get hit with a show cause, hate recruiting, or absolutely need to coach at the NFL level to prove to yourself you can do it or something like that. Shout out Jim.

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u/habdragon08 Virginia Tech Hokies 24d ago

NFL coaching is a much more higher level/competitive in terms of game play, which appeals to a lot of folks.

The players are more professional and better. The rosters are more stable. since there is less variance in terms of roster quality, Xs and Os coaching matters a lot more.

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u/wibble17 Hawai'i • Nebraska 24d ago

No recruiting, dealing with parents or schools, making sure your kids are going to classe, checking curfew etc A lot more opportunity to just coach.

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u/SpursUpSoundsGudToMe South Carolina • Presbyterian 24d ago

Yes, the quality of life for NFL coaches is radically different. Being a college head coach, right now in particular, is mildly insane. Obviously there’s a whole staff of people working on the day to day stuff, but it’s still like 4 jobs in one, and between games, practices, recruiting periods, and portal periods, it has like 6 weeks total where there isn’t something mission-critical actively going on and you need most of that time to map out the next cycle.

NFL coaches can actually see their families outside of the facilities during the season lol

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u/Silver-Kestrel 24d ago

It would really only affect a few long tenured head coaches as the majority of coaches don't last longer than 4-5 years anyway and assistant coaches generally would be paid less than the limit anyway.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/from-top-to-bottom-college-football-has-never-seen-more-coaching-changes-study-shows-unprecedented-turnover/

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u/AliceisStoned Georgia Bulldogs 24d ago

I’d feel so bad for those coaches, I mean what are you even supposed to do with 5 mil? Buy a stick of gum? that’s basically pocket change

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u/srs_house Swaggerbilt 24d ago

Players only have to deal with it for 4-5 years

You guys literally had Mel Tucker on staff for 3 years and Jonathan Smith for 2. Since 1973, MSU has had exactly 2 HCs who lasted more than 5 years.

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u/hookem98 24d ago

No way this passes, but if it does, prepare for 30 year contracts to coaches. Schools will just eat it on the back end with buyouts

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u/AttiBus Michigan Wolverines 24d ago

These coaches invented college football and should be rewarded for their innovation. Without them, there would be no NIL money to trickle down.

/s

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u/klingma Nebraska Cornhuskers 24d ago

That's not true in this instance though, coaches are absolutely labor and skirting by the cap. 

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u/AnEmptyKarst Houston Cougars • Utah Utes 24d ago

Coaches are also labor, so this would be just more labor getting the shorted lol

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u/Rorako 24d ago

Yup. The money that colleges, universities, and media companies make (through TV deals) is disgusting. This bill is an attempt to make sure that the people that make sure all this money lines the pockets of these moguls don’t actually get a fair cut. I get people want to cry “they are just students”, but we’re past that. These “students” allow a lot of non-students to earn billions of dollars. They’re professional athletes, and it’s time to accept that so much money is involved now that the old days of college sports being for students are gone.

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u/Hougie Washington State Cougars • WashU Bears 24d ago

If you really want to work the “student” angle raise the minimum GPA for eligibility above 2.5 and create an independent academic enforcement arm.

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u/bus_wanker_friends Arizona Wildcats • India National Team 24d ago

Can we also put a limit on the ad breaks? 1 per quarter or something?

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u/freaky__frank Penn State Nittany Lions 24d ago

It’s so much worse than NFL

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u/K31KT3 Arizona Wildcats • BYU Cougars 24d ago

15 years ago I thought Goodell was a real villain. I still think that but dang it that dude fights what’s for the interest of league he represents. 

CFB would be in a much better place overall with him being the dictator imho 

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u/tjkoala Penn State • Appalachian State 24d ago

Imagine the late night texts Roger gets from drunk owners at the end of each gameday.

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u/NA_Faker Texas Longhorns • Wisconsin Badgers 24d ago

People hating Goodell means he’s doing his job

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u/magikatdazoo South Carolina Gamecocks 24d ago

Congrats, now football games are pay per view add ons to your ESPN Unlimited subscription

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u/Wolfhound_Papa Michigan Wolverines • Army Black Knights 24d ago

I would absolutely pay a fee to have commercial free games.

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u/Odd_Refuse3334 BYU Cougars 24d ago

Take my cable bill up to $100 a month if I can get 2.5 hour CFB

More likely it goes that high anyway and we get 4 hour CFB unfortunately

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u/Wolfhound_Papa Michigan Wolverines • Army Black Knights 24d ago

Agreed. I used to watch CFB from gameday until pac after dark but gave up years ago when games turned into 4.5 hour commercials with breaks for football. I’d pay at least that much to have football back.

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u/AllTimeTy Missouri Tigers • /r/CFB Placer 24d ago

Ahoy there matey, that works great sign me up 🏴‍☠️

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u/VirginiaMcCaskey Miami Hurricanes • Drexel Dragons 24d ago

Cap ad revenues for the networks.

Like if everything that's wrong is due to too much money in the sport then go after the source of it. TV ads.

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u/mbleslie Boise State Broncos 24d ago

I know it’s slightly inconvenient, but start watching the game about an hour after kickoff. You’ll be able to skip most of the ad breaks and halftime

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u/Schmenza Harvard Crimson • Tulane Green Wave 24d ago

Dr Pepper pays good money for those ads that you ignore. How do you sleep at night?

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u/Experiment626b /r/CFB 24d ago

That only works if you only want to watch 1 game. Even if I mostly just want to watch 1, I still want to switch if something interesting develops in another game. Or at half time.

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u/HookedOnBoNix Virginia Tech Hokies 24d ago

The main way I keep in touch with one of my old college buddies is we both text eachother stream of consciousness stuff about the game while watching it. Watching a game not live removes the social aspect, same thing for me on sundays blowing up the group chat about big fantasy plays

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u/BigAcanthocephala637 24d ago

Teams and conferences are now getting direct sponsorships. If the ad is on the jersey or a brand comes before the name of the division, then the entire thing is an ad break, game included.

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u/84UTK07 Tennessee Volunteers • Princeton Tigers 24d ago

Now we will go back to boosters making under the table payments, except this time it will be to coaches.

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u/ImpossibleStill8643 24d ago

Great idea. If you cap how much the players make, why wouldn’t you cap how much coaches can make? Always thought one of the more ridiculous aspects of pre NIL cfb was pretending a sport was in anyway “amateur” when coaches were getting paid 15 million a year.

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u/SirMellencamp Alabama Crimson Tide • SEC 24d ago edited 24d ago

Does the bill have a cap on how much players can make? I honestly dont know and am just asking

EDIT: I got two people telling me the exact opposite

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u/hnglmkrnglbrry Notre Dame Fighting Irish 24d ago

Your edit perfectly describes how fucking stupid all of this is.

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u/Agattu Central Michigan • Michigan 24d ago

Welcome to Reddit, where everyone is suddenly a legislative expert.

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u/Sad_Independence_703 Michigan • Western Michigan 24d ago

Kill me

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u/PSU02 Penn State Nittany Lions 24d ago edited 24d ago

No, only a general cap on revenue sharing money and roster retention fund money. Roughly $21.58 million for revenue sharing, and a $27.5 million roster retention fund. Schools are free to distribute it to players however they want, there is no individual max "salary".

3rd party NIL is also unlimited but deals would have to go through a clearinghouse to make sure they are legit NIL and not pay for play.

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u/Irishfafnir Virginia Tech • Emory & Henry 24d ago

3rd party NIL is also unlimited but deals would have to go through a clearinghouse to make sure they are legit NIL and not pay for play.

I'm pretty skeptical this piece will actually be meaningfully enforced, but time will tell.

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u/Buckduster Oklahoma Sooners • Iowa Hawkeyes 24d ago

Isn’t this already a thing? I believe an accounting firm like Deloitte runs the clearing house

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u/Irishfafnir Virginia Tech • Emory & Henry 24d ago

Yes, on paper, it doesn't seem super effective. With the new bill, the NIL deals aimed at a certain school count towards the REV cap.

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u/anonymously--- 24d ago

All NIL deals are currently going through the clearinghouse. The PCSA will categorize third-party payers that are associated with the school as being part of the revenue sharing amount and will be capped. Non-associated third-party payments won't be capped.

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u/JonnyActsImmature 24d ago

Yes

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u/tittysprinkles112 Iowa Hawkeyes • South Dakota Coyotes 24d ago

And will it be updated for inflation in the future? Lol

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u/bromjunaar Nebraska Cornhuskers • Sickos 24d ago

Of course not. That would require them to acknowledge that aid and taxes also need to float with inflation, and they will never do that.

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u/owchippy 24d ago

Also minimum wage. Still set at $7.25/hr

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u/tu-vens-tu-vens Alabama Crimson Tide 24d ago

The literal text of the bill is as follows:

(b) Adjustment Of Revenue Share Cap.—Upon expiration of the Injunctive Relief Settlement Agreement approved by the court in “In Re College Athlete NIL Litigation”, No. 20–cv–03919 (N.D. Cal. June 6, 2025), the annual revenue share cap shall be adjusted annually for inflation by the percent increase, if any, in the Consumer Price Index for All-Urban Consumers published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics of the Department of Labor for the most recent 12-month period for which applicable data is available.

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u/nate517 Texas Longhorns 24d ago

There is a hard cap that would be put in place.

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u/BadDadJokes LSU Tigers • Chattanooga Mocs 24d ago

Is it a hard cap on direct payments from universities, or is it a hard cap on all possible NIL earnings?

I see how the federal government could have a say with direct payments from universities. I'm not a fan of government interference in general since they've made things objectively worse for the last 30 years.

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u/captainpoppy South Alabama Jaguars • Auburn Tigers 24d ago

And most of them were technically state employees.

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u/DocJ_makesthings Tulane Green Wave • Rice Owls 24d ago

And coaches are often public employees, who in a lot of other roles, usually have salary schedules that have a cap. I know that’s the case for a lot of faculty at public universities.

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u/mlorusso4 Ohio State • Baltimore 24d ago

Coaches are paid directly from the school on a salary schedule. The millions of dollars on top of that are paid through boosters. It’s like the state only funding a certain amount for a new library on campus and then a booster comes in and says he’ll donate an extra million dollars on top of that to make it much nicer and he gets his name on it

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u/Dialectic_Emptiness Pittsburgh Panthers 24d ago

Yeah but have you considered rules are for rubes and being filthy rich is cool as hell

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u/CornIssues Clemson Tigers 24d ago

Probably because you’ll no longer have college only coaches like Kirby because they’ll get paid twice the amount to coach in the NFL.

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u/ShaggsMagoo Missouri Tigers 24d ago

And every coach now also has a title of Senior Athletics Department Vice President, which is suddenly one of the highest paid public jobs in the state.

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u/jtezus Georgia • Florida State 24d ago

Man this really could’ve helped FSU a couple years ago.

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u/jchall3 Alabama Crimson Tide • /r/CFB Poll Veteran 24d ago

That’s like 7% of a Jimbo. Never gonna pass

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u/CountBleckwantedlove Missouri Tigers • Boise State Broncos 24d ago

A $5 million cap on coaching salaries would be an interesting way to create parity across the sport as a ton of schools would be able to pay that amount. Then coaches could coach where they want instead of moving for a bigger paycheck.

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u/Appropriate-Cap3325 Ohio State Buckeyes 24d ago

They’d move to the NFL and make 2-4x as much.

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u/Danny886 Michigan Wolverines 24d ago

That sound is the clatter of SEC and B1G coaches using chatgpt to polish their nfl resumes.

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u/Lumpy-Daikon-4584 Nebraska Cornhuskers 24d ago

That sound is this amendment going to the trash.

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u/tvcneverdie Georgia Bulldogs 24d ago

Yeah people are being delusional

It's little more than grandstanding because even if it makes the final bill and passes, it'd hastily be struck down in federal court

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u/BearsAreBack18 BYU Cougars • Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 24d ago

I’m not familiar with this part of the law. Why would it get struck down? Because the Feds are trying to dictate State policy?

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u/Powerful-Web4937 Ohio State Buckeyes 24d ago

While they're at it, let's cap lobbying and congressional stock trading.

Edited to add, cap it at 0

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u/TheComebackKidd Texas Longhorns 24d ago

What are you trying to do, make all of our representatives one of us? So they could understand and empathize with the problems we face daily and create reasonable legislation to improve our daily lives!? Crazy talk.

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u/NotThatOleGregg Florida State • Florida State 24d ago

pass it quick so we owe Mike less money lmao

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u/MrWhipple Tennessee Volunteers • Sewanee Tigers 24d ago

Coaching salaries absolutely need to be de-Sexton'd.

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u/enadiz_reccos LSU Tigers • Golden Boot 24d ago

bahahahahaha

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u/ColaBottleBaby USC Trojans 24d ago

Let’s cap how much stock they can own and how much in “donations” they can accept next

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u/preddevils6 Tennessee • Austin Peay 24d ago

Corey Booker sponsored a bill to ban trading of stocks where members have a conflict of interest. He’s also an advocate of congress and judges not trading individual stocks at all.

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u/Samwise777 Georgia Bulldogs 24d ago

Yeah man fuck the kids but can’t possibly stop paying these “leaders of men” like Lane Kiffin 30 million dollars. 

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u/SirMellencamp Alabama Crimson Tide • SEC 24d ago

Its not just that. Little known thing that happens. Coaches often get included in business deals where they dont have to put any or little money in and get rewarded when the deal happens. So say you are trying to get a business group together to buy a piece of real estate and flip it. You offer Mike Elko 10% of the property for little or no money and then you can tell the other investors that Elko is in the deal

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u/GolfingGator Florida Gators 24d ago

Performative nonsense. They know this won’t happen.

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u/Rage_Like_Nic_Cage Penn State • Virginia Tech 24d ago

That’s the Cory Booker special

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u/jmac11281 Penn State Nittany Lions • Rowan Profs 24d ago

People on here praising the guy. I am from NJ. I know better.

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u/generic_username-12 Ole Miss Rebels 24d ago

Let’s lump daylight savings time into this while we’re adding things that’ll never pass.

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u/NEW_GNGR_9601 Wisconsin Badgers 24d ago

These senators should watch out. The Mafia (AKA Jimmy Sexton) will be coming for them if they cap coaching salaries.

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u/Stuff-nThings LSU Tigers • Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 24d ago

It would just change to the HS model where the booster club pays the real salaries.

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u/aawagner011 Georgia Bulldogs 24d ago

Yeah good luck with that

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u/Muffinnnnnnn Florida State • New Mexico 24d ago

W amendment tbh

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u/kmokell15 Florida State Seminoles 24d ago

Jimmy Sexton is foaming at the mouth just reading this

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u/ronmexico314 Southeast Missouri • Alabama 24d ago

Wealthy programs will still raise and spend the same massive sums of money even if you cap coach salaries. Anyone with half of a brain can see that cap will easily be circumvented to reach whatever point the schools are willing to pay for a coach... Instead of paying the coach $8 mil per year, schools would just pay the coach $5 mil and hire his wife as a consultant (or any other made up role) for $3 mil.

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u/quiznos_08 24d ago

Can we cap politicians salaries as well? Some of the coaches do more for the players and institutions than any politicians will ever do.

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u/hoosierwhodat Indiana Hoosiers • Texas Longhorns 24d ago

This is the least productive congress since the Civil War Era. They have time.

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u/Chance-Foot-327 Texas A&M Aggies • UNSW Raiders 24d ago

Makes sense. The mid 1800s is when a lot of them first started their political careers. 

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u/livefreeordont James Madison Dukes 24d ago

No they don’t they’re always on vacation and when they’re on the job they’re campaigning

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u/tehnomad Michigan Wolverines • UC San Diego Tritons 24d ago

This is the only issue that has some bipartisan support.

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u/amayain Alabama • Marquette 24d ago

There are a ton of issues that have bipartisan support among voters, like restricting AI and data centers. Unfortunately, politicians don't want to take on either because their campaigns will lose funding.

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u/usctrojan18 USC Trojans • Grossmont Griffins 24d ago

Hey I like it, and all current coaches contracts must immediately be taken down to $5M, no grandfather deals!

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u/DullCartographer7609 Virginia Tech Hokies • Pop-Tarts Bowl 24d ago

I'd love to see legislation, but there's so much else they need to worry about. 🤦🏾‍♂️

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u/Mr_MacGrubber LSU Tigers • Army Black Knights 24d ago

Why not deal with insider trading in Congress first?

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u/RNGezzus Texas Longhorns 24d ago

Hypocrisy?

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u/ILikeTuwtles1991 Montana State Bobcats • Oregon Ducks 24d ago

Downvote me all you want.

The federal government setting a cap on people's salaries is bad.

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u/Training-Expert5598 Ohio State Buckeyes • Ohio Bobcats 24d ago

They will cap private citizens salaries and benefits, but God forbid we try to cap their salaries and benefits.

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u/selfiecritic Texas Longhorns • Missouri Tigers 24d ago

We shouldn’t be ever capping salaries

It’s like the one capitalist principle that is directly good for the citizen and government exploits tf out of it

Unless you are an owner of a proprietorship/company which employs people, salary caps are always directly bad for you.

But your sports viewership will feel better because you won’t be as jealous of the coaching salaries.

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u/mrtasty3 Oregon Ducks 24d ago

Just end this fucking charade.

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u/arstin Notre Dame Fighting Irish 24d ago

Just have to cap ticket prices, ESPN subscription prices, and the amount of advertising and we're all set.

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u/Old_Bat1681 Baylor Bears 24d ago

"Welcome to Oregon, sure your salary is the NCAA league maximum... But our Nike stock options bring our compensation to 12 million."

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u/fordtrucklover1 Michigan Wolverines • Virginia Cavaliers 24d ago

I am sure the universities would support this amendment, no one really wants to spend that much on coaches.

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u/251Cane Miami Hurricanes • Troy Trojans 24d ago

While you’re on the subject of things that will never happen, go ahead and slip in an amendment to restrict stock trading by Congressmen. Just for the laughs.

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u/Impressive_Law_1098 Tennessee Volunteers • UCF Knights 24d ago

Whatever version of this gets passed is going to be eviscerated by the courts.

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u/Mr-R--California 24d ago

As being unconstitutional? Which part? Because once its law the only way the courts can strike it down is if it’s unconstitutional

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u/Impressive_Law_1098 Tennessee Volunteers • UCF Knights 24d ago

I don’t think the largely-conservative federal bench is going to love the federal government regulating state public universities and instituting industry salary caps but I’m no lawyer.

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u/sweetpooptatos Colorado State Rams • UCLA Bruins 24d ago

Well, if this passes, it will probably result in a 9-0 reversal by the Supreme Court, at least as far as it relates to private universities. Congress does not have the authority to set an upper limit on an employees salary, just a lower limit.

As for public universities, it is dubious at best. The government likely does not have a legitimate interest in regulating college football coach salaries. Player pay? Absolutely. Whether or not they are employees is crucial to determining whether denying them salaries is in violation of the 13th Amendment. Coach salaries? Congress generally does not get to determine whether an individual is overpaid.

The saving grace for this bill as I’ve read the proposal, is that it caps the salary paid from non-sports and booster revenue. So the university can pay out of revenue generated by the football program or, in aTm’s case, by begging on its knees for a booster to pay the $100M buyout.

As this is written, Notre Dame, Stanford, SMU, etc. would be in an extremely advantageous position because they would likely not be limited in how much they spend. However, all the public universities would be completely limited based on revenue generated. It might seem like this is fine, but consider the fact that these universities are required by the ERA to maintain equal men’s and women’s athletic programs. As such, they have to spend money on sports that lose money. Private universities will always be able to guarantee a coach’s salary, while public universities will always have the cloud of revenue generation hanging over their heads. Just a thought.

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u/NYPD-BLUE Florida Gators • Verified Media 24d ago

Cory Booker try not to be performative challenge [IMPOSSIBLE] (HE CAN’T DO IT)

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u/Powerful-Web4937 Ohio State Buckeyes 24d ago

This is his Spartacus moment... Again

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u/frenchtoastking17 Alabama Crimson Tide 24d ago

In this economy?

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u/Mrjonesezn Louisville Cardinals 24d ago

At this time of year?

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u/TheodoraRoosevelt21 Boise State Broncos 24d ago

can we do announcers/commentators too?

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u/Impossible_Command95 LSU Tigers 24d ago

Hot take but also cap player NIL to $25,000 + scholarship, fees, housing, food, and official team workout clothes.

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u/pzagrbge 24d ago

“Protect the NCAA’s Money Act”

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u/ChosenBrad22 Nebraska • Wayne State (NE) 24d ago

I've always wondered why, even in the NFL, there is a salary cap for players but no cap on the staff. If you really want competitive balance it should be even across the board.

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u/pumpkinspruce Wisconsin Badgers 24d ago

NFL players have negotiated a salary cap as part of the collective bargaining agreement. This is the only way to legally cap salaries.

The coaches are not in any kind of union and have no such collective bargaining agreement so it would be against labor laws to cap their salaries.

Even if this ridiculous law passed, it would be quickly struck down by the courts. I’m not sure why Booker and Murphy are wasting their time with this.

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u/Dry-Membership3867 Jacksonville State • Arkansas 24d ago

That’s never gonna happen lmao.

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u/UPMichigan83 Michigan • Michigan Tech 24d ago

As long as we cap politician’s annual earnings..

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u/DontGetTheShow Pittsburgh Panthers 24d ago

And even with the $5M cap, how many coaches would still be making like 2-5x more than the university president?

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u/NYCHoo Virginia • Georgia Tech 24d ago

Over/under 2 months for the Supreme Court to declare this unconstitutional if it passes?

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u/bruiserbear22 Baylor Bears 24d ago

You’re right in that I didn’t think of it that way. But this cap is obviously arbitrarily low compared to current norms. I would bet 75% of current P4 head coaches make more than this.

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u/Negativefalsehoods Tennessee Volunteers • Duke Blue Devils 24d ago

More fiddling while Rome burns...negotiate with the players and stop all this foolishness.

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u/AngleParticular2914 Penn State Nittany Lions • Sickos 24d ago

Lmao

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u/orthros Ohio State • Carnegie Mellon 24d ago

Jimbo: Thank goodness i got in in time

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u/tenoclockrobot Penn State • Land Grant Trophy 24d ago

How would they legally be able to override previously negotiated contracts?

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u/Spartanlegion117 Alabama Crimson Tide • Iron Bowl 24d ago

I mean sure if that cap is only for the amount of public money going to the salarys. But if boosters want to ear mark their donations for coaches salarys then that should be fine too.

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u/Original_Benzito Alabama • Arizona State 24d ago

I wonder if such a cap, even if passed, would count for private schools like Stanford and Notre Dame? I sort of see the theory that "public money shouldn't be used beyond $5 million," but if there's no public money at all . . . does that mean private colleges have separate rules?

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u/Spartanlegion117 Alabama Crimson Tide • Iron Bowl 24d ago

That would stand to reason, so I'm sure that it wasn't considered at all.

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u/BlackSwampMage 24d ago

From the US Government Accountability office:

Many colleges spend millions on athletic programs. Division I college athletic programs, the highest competitive level, spent $20.8 billion in the 2023-2024 academic year. Division II programs spent $2.7 billion.
In this Q&A, we looked at how these programs were funded in the 2023-2024 academic year. We found:
DI programs generated significant revenue from ticket sales, broadcast rights, and other sources
Most DI and all DII programs spent more money than they generated in revenue
Colleges collectively contributed billions of dollars to cover their athletics costs, partly from tuition and fees paid by students

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u/Then-Ticket8896 Boston College Eagles 23d ago

Let’s cap Senator Booker’s donations!

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u/Beaux7 LSU Tigers 24d ago

Politicians grandstanding for stuff they know will never get passed is so tiresome

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u/Silver-Literature-29 24d ago

We should cap how much fired coaches get paid. The termination packages probably cost just as much as active coaching staffs and nil. Need less Jimbos in the sport.

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u/onemanlan Auburn Tigers • UAB Blazers 24d ago

This is either DOA or universities will go the ole miss route of paying coaches w secondary sources to get around legal caps

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u/definitelynotpatrick Ohio State Buckeyes • Big Ten 24d ago

Freeman to the NFL confirmed

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u/karmassacre Houston Cougars • Big 12 24d ago

Want college sports to stay amateur? Get it off TV. You can't make hundreds of millions of dollars and call it an amateur sport.

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u/NoYOUGrowUp Penn State Nittany Lions • Navy Midshipmen 24d ago

They should also make an amendment where coaches can change jobs freely once every five years. More than that, they have to sit out a season.