[Underdog CFB] "Dante Moore was taken to LA General County Hospital and was moving his legs and fingers while being carted off, according to NBC's broadcast."

[u/AkfurAshkenzic]

https://x.com/UnderdogCFB/status/2104012697323061359?s=20

[u/ARayofLight]

We just locked a thread discussing the hit on Moore because of too many rule-breaking comments.

This is a reminder to not break said rules or we will lock this one as well.

[u/heleghir]

Absolutely great news. The scariest part to me wasnt the knockout fencing reflex, it was the seizure like spasms that followed. So if hes conscious and has intentional movement in his extremities that is a HUGE positive sign. Bad concussion still, but possible its just that and nothing worse.

[u/Miss_May_1600 → u/heleghir]

It was very jarring to see. Fortunately concussive convulsions (impact seizures) alone are not a prognostic factor for CTE or post-traumatic epilepsy. So it’s possible this will just be a bad concussion. I really hope so. Shame on Stephens.

[u/illrollwithyou1 → u/heleghir]

yeah the spasms actually made me queasy lol. I’m a lil bitch sorry

[u/alfooboboao → u/illrollwithyou1]

no you’re not. it’s terrifying

[u/magnetattraction → u/alfooboboao]

#8 and the entire USC defense thought it was funny and worth celebrating

[u/Real_Batu_Rem → u/magnetattraction]

What a classy bunch. I’m really excited to watch Ohio State blow them out by 30 in a couple weeks.

[u/-holocene → u/Real_Batu_Rem]

I can't wait to watch Smith go for 300 receiving yards against that defense

[u/Beautiful-Gold7564 → u/illrollwithyou1]

I think worst hit I may have watched live it is definitely not sitting right with me either

[u/nope-its → u/illrollwithyou1]

Being an empathetic human is always a good thing

[u/MommaLisss → u/illrollwithyou1]

Way bigger bitch here 👋. I cried.

[u/WoodpeckerGingivitis → u/MommaLisss]

Me too

[u/AntitheistArchangel → u/heleghir]

I heard he was unconscious.

[u/heleghir → u/AntitheistArchangel]

unconscious on the field yes. he very much was with the way his body hit such a hard fencing reflex. but regaining consciousness to move his extremities during transport is what im referring to

[u/Simmumah]

Seeing that USC player celebrate on the sideline actually pissed me off more than seeing us choke to Iowa

[u/kdestroyer1 → u/Simmumah]

Yeah. You could make excuses about /try to reason the actual hit but the celebration and pure glee about it after is rage inducing. Fuck this USC program and it's culture.

[u/TanTanMan → u/kdestroyer1]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone continue celebrating when it was obvious there was a major head injury. It was weird and gross.

[u/BrandynBlaze → u/TanTanMan]

With multiple teammates that were just as happy as him.

[u/hoyadestroyer → u/TanTanMan]

Azeez Al-Shaair did so when he cheapshotted Trevor Lawrence, and then he and his coach spent the next year defending it.

[u/ahausmaus → u/hoyadestroyer]

Al-Shaair is the biggest dirtbag in the NFL today, Vontaze Burfict level dirty

[u/lkn240 → u/kdestroyer1]

100% - the reaction was much worse than the actual hit. I wouldn't be killing the kid if he had shown remorse and concern when he realized Moore was hurt.

[u/Various-Net9757 → u/lkn240]

If it seemed in any way that he simply couldn't react fast enough I would be more sympathetic to the defenses of him. He CLEARLY meant to do what he did.

[u/RamblinWreckGT → u/kdestroyer1]

Exactly, at that point even if you had no ill intent you know what you actually ended up doing to him.

[u/RahvinDragand → u/RamblinWreckGT]

What the fuck was he even celebrating? The QB was already down when he hit him, and he had already gotten the first down. He literally didn't do anything except draw a flag.

[u/PriZ0nMike → u/RahvinDragand]

Seems he was celebrating injuring another human. Despicable

[u/Tooowaway → u/PriZ0nMike]

Probably coping know he was in the wrong. Unfortunately that seems to be the trend these days with these young entitled brats. Can’t take any accountability so they go with the “look at me” attention grabbing approach instead. I wish he’d get booted off the team but I’m guessing that won’t happen.

[u/wuhter → u/Tooowaway]

No he was celebrating thinking he just had a big hit and that they should be celebrating him his teammates literally were near the end zone). This is nothing new to football. Despicable nonetheless

[u/mac_y111 → u/kdestroyer1]

I mean these guys absolutely want to take out the other teams qb. It’s just most guys are smart enough to be happy in their head and not outwardly show it.

[u/buffinator2 → u/kdestroyer1]

That's where I was on it. Late slide, bad timing, incidental, I mean maybe the hit can be reasoned out, but guy's gotta show SOME remorse for it. He should be punished for not being able to even act decent.

[u/grason → u/kdestroyer1]

It’s been this way for a longgg time for USC.

[u/OGConsuela → u/Simmumah]

It’s been a long time since I’ve been this heated over something that has nothing to do with my team. Pathetic all around from USC.

[u/anonymous50th → u/OGConsuela]

I can guarantee you that if it was your team, you’d be even more heated. Cohen better clean ship immediately!

[u/OneLastAuk → u/OGConsuela]

Right now I hate USC more than I hate Georgia.

[u/BumbleLapse → u/OGConsuela]

Fuck USC.

Wish that dude got laid out. Inexcusable play and even worse behavior afterwards

[u/svhelloworld → u/Simmumah]

Fuck that piece of shit. He clearly knew Moore was hurt and danced off the field doing his shitty ass celebration. And fuck that entire sideline celebrating with the guy. Jesus, USC. What the fuck is going on in your program?

[u/ctinker6171 → u/svhelloworld]

Moore was having what looked like a seizure and he's just dancing around

[u/SirKadath → u/ctinker6171]

Yeah I noticed that on the replay that shit looked scary he’ll definitely be out for a while. #8 should be absolutely ashamed of himself, in no world is that a “flex” or something to be proud of.

[u/TheNewGuy13 → u/ctinker6171]

Reminds me of I think the Giants dancing on Foles when he got hurt too. Like damn dude read the damn room

[u/madeapizza → u/TheNewGuy13]

Thibedeaux. I’m a Colts fan that was actually at that game and this was 50x worse than that. I’m willing to give Thibs the benefit of the doubt because, ironically, he was lying down next to Foles and likely didn’t see that he was hurt. With this play, everyone in the stadium knew he was hurt and he kept celebrating while moving to the sidelines. Completely diabolical and borderline evil.

[u/_LyleLanley_ → u/ctinker6171]

Fencing reaction. Very common with serious head trauma (concussion).

[u/SoutieNaaier → u/svhelloworld]

I dont blame the OL for checking on Dante instead of going after #8, but im surprised they allowed that after he continued to shit talk

[u/BuryMeInTheH → u/SoutieNaaier]

Dudes limbs were shaking while he was on his back. Jeezus.

[u/DanforthWhitcomb_ → u/SoutieNaaier]

That's the only time I've ever seen a trainer shove a player out of the way to get to an injured player.

The bigger issue here is how long it took the USC coaching staff to come on to the field and retrieve their players. I'm also shocked that there wasn't a taunting penalty levied against Stephens on top of the targeting call.

[u/OITLinebacker → u/svhelloworld]

Interesting seeing the rest of CFB realizing why some of us hate Southern Cal so much.

[u/thisthreadisbear → u/svhelloworld]

You seen their coach? Culture starts from the top.

[u/schistkicker → u/thisthreadisbear]

Riley's team culture is worse than his brisket.

[u/MtHood_OR → u/svhelloworld]

It’s always been a classless program. I hate them more than I dislike you all, and always have.

[u/IR1SHfighter → u/svhelloworld]

I hope every single opponent dog walks USC for this.

[u/nd_miller → u/Simmumah]

Fuck USC.

All my homies hate USC.

[u/theixrs → u/nd_miller]

May the rest of college football discover what UCLA fans have known for a long time lol

[u/TwoAmps → u/Simmumah]

What got me was him doing little angel wings in the end zone while Dante Moore was having an actual seizure on the field. In my universe, that alone would get him banned from football for life.

[u/theexile14 → u/TwoAmps]

He 100% should. Good people don’t do that shit.

[u/General_Sweet_5745 → u/TwoAmps]

100% FACT!@

[u/TickleMyIvory → u/Simmumah]

Man same. Fuck USC

[u/Johnny__QCB → u/TickleMyIvory]

Today, I'm agreeing with a Michigan fan in my hatred of USC. Fuck USC.

[u/Bayarea0 → u/Simmumah]

Yup no class at all. Their coaches did nothing to address it to and that's on Lincoln Riley.

[u/Formal_Potential2198 → u/Bayarea0]

Lincoln Riley is a chode. 

[u/Americanboi824 → u/Simmumah]

Yeah I hope that one of our receivers blocks him extra hard in this game.

[u/titusnick270 → u/Simmumah]

Yep. Absolutely classless.

[u/Richard_AIGuy → u/Simmumah]

It was seriously gross. Just no justification in that at all. No reason, and no defending it in any way that isn't skeevy.

[u/jbvann05 → u/Simmumah]

Guy should never play football again, dirty hit and showed no remorse for it

[u/jerametuman → u/Simmumah]

It’s the University of Sounds and Colors. Can’t blame him for not understanding what was going on.

[u/dendo888]

What happened to when both of the teams used to take a knee in a serious and lengthy stoppage injury? No empathy.

[u/Swarm140 → u/dendo888]

Go watch MAC games. Everyone in the stadium stfu when a player is hurt. Sometimes, if it’s really bad, you can literally hear the player yell in pain cause everyone goes silent when there’s an injury. Both teams still do it, just not the ones that operate like a mercenary team

[u/InsuranceOEHL → u/Swarm140]

I love watching MAC football, it almost feels like a throwback with the play style, sportsman ship and actual geographic alignment. It's such a fun conference to watch.

[u/FangornLeghorn → u/dendo888]

USC is trash top to bottom. Never expect any class from them in any circumstance.

[u/TheSquirrellyOne → u/FangornLeghorn]

No one is surprised to see USC act that way. But at the same time, it speaks to a much larger societal problem of lack of empathy. Empathy is “weak.” That said, I’d like to think Lanning would kick him and anyone else celebrating the other player seizing off the team.

[u/carguymt → u/TheSquirrellyOne]

it speaks to a much larger societal problem of lack of empathy

The National Review has been pushing the notion that empathy is somehow bad for decades now. It's no wonder lacking it is common these days. America's worship of individualism is toxic and we are seeing it come to its logical conclusion with everything that we've seen the last decade or so.

[u/GradeNo893 → u/TheSquirrellyOne]

I said this elsewhere. I played D1 ball. Sunday we’d have been made to meet with the strength coach who’d have PTed us until our eyes bled.

[u/TheSquirrellyOne → u/GradeNo893]

Gives me a little more hope for humanity. And to be clear, I'm not necessarily against the hit. Was it highly questionable? Sure. But the reaction of him and [some of] his teammates tells me all I need to know, which is that the intention was to injure/maim. No place for that in any sport, at any level.

[u/Orion14159 → u/FangornLeghorn]

Not at the University of Spoiled Children. How could they?

[u/TannerLyfe → u/dendo888]

We were by the USC sideline and had to scream at the players to take a knee before they finally did about 5 minutes in.

[u/Bayarea0 → u/TannerLyfe]

Thank you for trying to help improve a bad situation.

[u/WhyNotAthiest → u/dendo888]

The last two weeks had major head injuries in which a player was taken off the field on a stretcher and put in an ambulance. Both of the opposing teams took a knee out of respect for the downed player. 

This is strictly a USC thing and doesn't at all reflect the rest of college football.

[u/Rhymes_with_ike]

Just so unnecessary. Then celebrating and continuing to be all giddy on the sideline after the penalty, fucking pathetic. Players that act like they did something amazing after knowing they clearly injured someone is just peak scumbag. And the pertinent USC coaching staff classless as well with their lack response to the player. Trash.

[u/Jay_Dubbbs → u/Rhymes_with_ike]

I agreed with JP's analysis at halftime. Moore slid a little late, and it is hard to stop your body from moving; it's completely plausible that the hit wasn't intentional and it's just a football incident.

But his behavior afterward was jaw-dropping, distasteful, disgusting, upsetting, ridiculous, tone-deaf, idiotic, disrespectful, and unacceptable.

[u/shinypond → u/Jay_Dubbbs]

Without the reaction, sure. But the celebration is what makes it obvious that it was intentional, imo. Imagine the QB wasn't injured, what would there be to celebrate? The other team just picked up a first down in the red zone

[u/VegasWinsDa26Cup → u/shinypond]

This right here. If you watch the replay, the guy doesn't even start celebrating until he realizes that Moore is badly injured.

In all honesty, with how moronic this bum on USC tackles, he will probably end up paralyzing himself on a bad tackle attempt before he graduates...

[u/ryrobs10 → u/Jay_Dubbbs]

Based on the analysis people have given in the thread, there wasn’t even enough time for the player to realize he was sliding so the hit I can forgive. I can’t forgive the celebration when you know you hurt a player

[u/Various-Net9757 → u/ryrobs10]

It's clear he didn't care about the slide though, even after the play, or he wouldn't have reacted like he did.

[u/Hoverboy911 → u/Rhymes_with_ike]

FWIW, and these days it often ain't worth much, but the NFL reviews "all the tape" on players, and if this dude ends up mediocre going into his draft, this will now be one of the tapes that they'll have to review.

[u/unfunnysexface → u/Hoverboy911]

"Oh no" said the nfl gm "a talented player just made himself a lower value pick"

[u/SpursUpSoundsGudToMe → u/Rhymes_with_ike]

It was crazy, I’ve never seen anything like that. Moore was 80% of the way down already, he literally didn’t accomplish anything beside injure him. What the fuck did they have to be excited about? Either the DC or DBs coach should be suspended, because that’s a culture issue.

[u/Swaayyzee → u/SpursUpSoundsGudToMe]

It’s very clear he was celebrating injuring him. It’s one thing to get up and celebrate a big hit, this kid took a damn victory lap around the stadium, one clip I had seen went on for 30 seconds of celebrating before the video cut off, and he was still cheering when it cut off.

[u/SpursUpSoundsGudToMe → u/Swaayyzee]

Yeah exactly (that’s what I was trying to get at and didn’t really say) there isn’t even plausible deniability that it was something else, hell Moore got the first down too! Dude shot a fish in barrel and acted like he landed moby dick with a fly rod.

[u/ZeroEchoVX]

Hope he can make a full recovery, prayers up to him. Absolutely disgusting response from USC after the hit

[u/Numerous-Ad6460]

Im surprised none of the Oregon players jumped his ass for that hit

[u/Flaky_Rhubarb_8208 → u/Numerous-Ad6460]

They tried and got held back

[u/ReplaceSelect → u/Flaky_Rhubarb_8208]

Every once in awhile, I wish football operated with hockey rules.

[u/YesOkWhoCares → u/ReplaceSelect]

All sports should play with hockey rules

[u/SpreaditOnnn33 → u/YesOkWhoCares]

with the same limitations

Mainly the no sucker punching/break it up when someone is on the ground or at a terrible disadvantage then yes.

There are alot of unwritten rules with regard to that and a lot of those are broken constantly

[u/Pizzaplan3tman → u/Flaky_Rhubarb_8208]

Yeah you can see a couple guys go forward. I think it was a tough spot to be for Oregon guys. Because you’re so concerned and feel your heart drop seeing how messed up Moore is. A couple guys tried to fight but I feel like the concern for you guy out weighs the rage to beat the shit out of the opposing player.

[u/theexile14 → u/Flaky_Rhubarb_8208]

Shame

[u/Sks44 → u/Numerous-Ad6460]

It’s moments like that you need a Dick Butkus type that will refuse to be held back and roll into the other team like an angry, drunk William Munny.

[u/jticks]

I just want to make sure there wasn’t a shortage of people saying fuck Desman Stephens for that hit

[u/EvaporatingOlaf → u/jticks]

It’s been a while since I’ve actually been certain that I hate both the person and the player

[u/P_Star7 → u/jticks]

It’s not just the hit (which was bad), but the celebrating and smiles on the sideline when it was clear Moore was seriously hurt.

I get football is a vicious sport, but it’s disgusting to be happy about delivering a dirty, potentially life altering injury.

[u/MediumStrange]

If they gotta tell you that he's moving his fingers that's a bad sign.

USC and Lincoln Riley should be ashamed

[u/Chitown780 → u/MediumStrange]

If I’m a Oregon player and Oregon wins, I can’t think of a better place to do the “player simulating using the restroom” celebration than the USC logo after the game

[u/MediumStrange → u/Chitown780]

Maybe this is the hockey player in me, but it's not even my team and I want to fight the guy.

Maybe they should add that in the Senate bill, Coaches can call a fight similar to a challenge. If they win the fight they keep the timeout, if they lose they lose it. One on one, no helmet.

[u/Sad_One_6647 → u/MediumStrange]

Im Canadian and played decent level Hockey for 15 years and HS Football, one of the things that irks me about CFB is the hesitation to defend your teammates especially the QB. I know punishments are more severe but at some point you as a team need to make it clear this shit is unacceptable and this was totally grounds for a brawl. Refs prove time and time again that they don't do enough to keep people safe and there needs to be a level of self-policing like in Hockey

[u/heyheyitsandre → u/Sad_One_6647]

I’m a lifelong hockey player also but not a meathead one by any means, I can count on zero fingers the number of stupid beer league fights I’ve been in or real fights when I was playing. But there’s is an objective truth to the concept of if your QB gets cheap shotted and someone immediately responds and rocks the other teams shit, it is absolutely less likely it ever happens again. I mean the enforcer role from the 80s and 90s was an actual thing, no one was going to throw something dirty at Yzerman with Bob Probert sitting on the bench. If you do your face is getting caved in 90 seconds later lol

Your QB gets decked and someone immediately takes the defenders head off in response? Bet he doesn’t get anything late next game lol. Coach can decide if the flag / suspension was worth it, but that QB is almost certainly safer next week after the next opponent sees the response this week

[u/Sad_One_6647 → u/heyheyitsandre]

I grew up in the Maritimes playing Football and Hockey here, both Sports here are considerably more rough than in other regions and especially in shit like Midget and Junior Hockey there would be stretches of 7-8 games straight per season where we would have full on brawls every game (And lets just say I didnt make my teams for being a skill guy lmao) due to the amount of hot-headed Country and Rez kids like myself and extremely poor officiating. Its like a kid playing with a stove, he's gonna keep trying until he gets burned instead in this case its a 6'3 180 defensemen or 300 Lb Lineman trying to break your nose. Its why I get kind of upset when people say fighting doesn't belong in sports. I agree toxic masculinity and the testosterone backed dick measuring is harmful but there have been way too many times in my life I have seen fighting keep the game safer and prevent teams from just throwing cheapshots all game and potentially giving people life-altering injuries

[u/heyheyitsandre → u/Sad_One_6647]

Yep I mean the threat of getting the shit kicked out of you is unironically great motivation to play clean if you can’t bring yourself to just play clean in the first place

[u/ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME → u/Chitown780]

No need for a simulation. And not just using the restroom.

[u/OITLinebacker → u/ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME]

Drop the deuce 

[u/throw69420awy → u/Chitown780]

Nah actually whip it out and piss

[u/lilmiller7 → u/Chitown780]

Dare the B1G to punish you there

[u/binkyping → u/Chitown780]

The NBC studio crew would be much more outraged by that than the hit and celebration, I bet

[u/techman710 → u/binkyping]

Chris Simms was blaming Dante Moore, no really, what a POS.

[u/OnMyNerves23 → u/Chitown780]

I know a guy.

[u/Genetics → u/MediumStrange]

Lincoln Riley has no shame to begin with.

[u/imsoupercereal → u/Genetics]

And his brisket is terrible

[u/avboden → u/MediumStrange]

that's a bad sign.

not really, it's pretty standard

[u/MediumStrange → u/avboden]

I know it is medically but you never want to see a injury where the guy immediately gets taken to the hospital.

[u/lilob724]

Looked really bad. Hoping he's gonna be alright.

[u/Springtucky]

USC fans behind me here at the stadium cheered on the dirty hit

[u/lkn240 → u/Springtucky]

I mean cheering the hit is natural in the moment... but if you don't stop when you realize the guy who got hit is badly hurt then you are a pretty fucked up person

[u/BillfredL → u/Springtucky]

Sounds on brand for Southern Cal.

[u/Residentcarthrowaway → u/BillfredL]

Thanks, real USC

[u/OITLinebacker → u/BillfredL]

Most of the shitty fans are former shitty Raiders fans who needed something else to make worse.

[u/elementalbee → u/Springtucky]

Absolutely disgusting and unsurprising

[u/QuakingSky061]

Prayers up for Moore and fuck #8 that disgusting piece of human trash and the teammates celebrating with him

[u/NippleSqueezer421-]

Fuck Desman Stephen, celebrating while someone is getting put in a ambulance.

[u/BlackwaterPark10 → u/NippleSqueezer421-]

Exactly. Makes you wonder what kind of mental imbalance these people have

[u/SPCsooprlolz]

Celebrating injuries is just gross

[u/captainfishpants → u/SPCsooprlolz]

Same guy who had the cheap shot on our QB as well, 100% a culture issue at this point

[u/Character-Active2208]

His head slammed on the turf at a very high rate of speed, that is at minimum a really bad concussion

[u/shaggy2perpwr]

That hit made me sick to my sick to my stomach, he postured a bit and his legs were shaking ugh I hope he’s okay.

[u/AkfurAshkenzic]

For extra context, he was put into a c spine collar

[u/lil_layne → u/AkfurAshkenzic]

As an EMT that is standard for pretty much all trauma injuries involving the head/neck as a precautionary measure to not cause further damage during transport. That doesn’t necessarily dictate the severity or seriousness of the injury.

[u/PeteAndPlop → u/lil_layne]

Yupp, standard of care for any head/neck injury in football (really any sport) where cervical injury can’t be ruled out. If a player is unconscious/too confused it’s assumed since they can’t respond to commands. Risk for harm is basically zero compared to benefit, so it’s one of those “if you have to ask yourself should we stabilize the c spine?” the default answer is always yes.

[u/giggitybuck → u/AkfurAshkenzic]

Mainly out of abundance of caution. That’s standard

[u/Phenix621]

Thank god Dante has full movements. Was holding my breath hoping to hear this.

Godspeed Dante. See you on the field again real soon.

And fuck Lincoln Riley.

[u/Cornwallis400]

Does anyone here know what the rules are on what happens next?

Is it just the flag? Or could that USC player get suspended for a few games? Crazy to celebrate damaging someone’s brain.

[u/TheSquirrellyOne → u/Cornwallis400]

I suppose the powers that be can have him suspended longer than one game, despite what the rule book says. But we’ll see. They seem to love riding USC’s dill so it seems unlikely

[u/TempAcct724 → u/Cornwallis400]

The rule was updated recently.

Used to be that the player was ejected for the rest of the game, and if the targeting happened in the second half, for the first half of the next game.

Now a first offense is just the remainder of the game with no additional penalty. A second targeting offense is an additional half game and a third is a full game suspension.

[u/tanktronic → u/TempAcct724]

So u can scramble 3 guys' brains before missing ONE game. Way to protect the kids.

[u/singabro]

The celebration put it over the top. Now from a strictly "you made your bed, and now you lie in it" type of morality, other teams and fans can cheer and taunt injured USC players. That's a red line you just don't cross.

[u/EugeneGrowGuy]

There needs to be some type of recourse by the university for the celebration and him being allowed to stay on the sideline. Unbelievably disrespectful on a human level and has no place in the sport.

[u/EugeneGrowGuy → u/[deleted]]

Morally bankrupt university continues to show why they’re hated nationally

[u/AntitheistArchangel]

Moore has movement in all of his extremities according to Dan Lanning.

[u/Zloggt]

Good to hear, at least…

[u/D_Antelmi]

Celebrating giving the opposing QB a serious head injury?  That jagoff makes Vontaze Burfict look like a perfect gentleman.  If I were Lincoln Riley he'd never play a down in a USC uniform again.

[u/Pandiosity_24601 → u/D_Antelmi]

That would require Lincoln to have even a shred of ethics and a sense of morality

[u/Crying_in_99Ranch]

This hit and the lack of discipline might be the last straw for Lincoln Riley if he doesn't make the playoffs

[u/HermitageHermit → u/Crying_in_99Ranch]

It might be the last straw for Lincoln Riley tonight if they get dog walked in the second half by Dylan fuckin Raiola

[u/persieri13 → u/HermitageHermit]

I, for one, am back on team Mini Mahomes.

[u/managerofassets → u/Crying_in_99Ranch]

Lincoln Riley isn’t making the playoffs 😂😂😂😂😂

[u/DottoreDavide]

The reaction by the Toejam sideline tells you all you need to know about that program. It’s been that way for years

[u/Noy_Telinu → u/DottoreDavide]

Lincoln Riley fucking sucks. His culture is one of cowardice and malice.

[u/Bruinrogue → u/DottoreDavide]

Hello fellow flair!

[u/DottoreDavide → u/Bruinrogue]

I’m not alone! 👊

[u/JBOZ758]

Football is a violent game, and plays happen fast. Trying to be objective here, and while the hit looked intentional to me, under normal circumstances the USC player probably could make a case that it wasn't - the old tried and true "plausible deniability" card. But the celebrating tells me a very different story, and it comes down to "what exactly he was celebrating?". This wasn't a sack, a TFL or a broken play. Dante Moore had just successfully rushed for 10 yards and a 1st down, and Oregon was inside USC's 13 yard line ready to score...so that is not a reason to celebrate. Dante Moore slid, so it's not like the USC player made a great play or contributed to the down...so that is not a reason to celebrate. But there he was celebrating, even tanuting. The only explanation I can come up with is he was celebrating taking the opposing QB out of the game, which proves to me that it was 100% intentional...and possibly even stealth-encouraged by the coaching staff.

[u/Lazy_Check732]

Just want to tell you guys, this is standard medical reporting with any head injury with loss of consciousness, and there is absolutely no reason to believe there is any cervical injury in my opinion. I am as confident that he does not have a cervical injury as I am that you the reader do not have a cervical injury. Mechanism and response fully consistent with head injury and inconsistent with cervical injury. He will be ok.

[u/biomannnn007 → u/Lazy_Check732]

I mean, he was hit in the head and could have hyperextended the neck. We don’t know the degree to which his movements are intact, we just know that he’s moving the fingers and legs. He can still have weakness in those movements, even if not paralyzed. If he does have weakness, this would all be consistent with central cord syndrome. His helmet, age, and physical fitness probably protected him, making central cord syndrome less likely, but you can’t rule it out without the imaging in the hospital.

[u/Original-Teaching326]

Wow. Chris Simms blaming Dante Moore for getting hit was not on my 2026 bingo card…

What a POS

[u/HonoluluMaizeandBlue → u/Original-Teaching326]

Simms made his statement, and then somebody else spoke as well and then Simms felt the need to clarify that although Dante Moore slid late, there was no excuse for the celebrating on the sidelines. I don't know if someone was literally in his ear asking him to address it, or if he wanted to just clarify.

[u/Schmenza → u/Original-Teaching326]

Fuck the dude celebrating but QBs need to start sliding earlier

[u/Aggressive_Intern778 → u/Original-Teaching326]

Did he blame him for getting hit or did he accurately point out a late slide on a bang bang play?

USC player might be a piece of shit for the celebration but let’s not act like he’d been down for a long period of time. Just a very unfortunate outcome. 

[u/2chainzzzz → u/Aggressive_Intern778]

They cut to commercial, came back, and he was still laughing and dapping on the sidelines.

And, it was helmet to helmet on a slide. Any defender should expect that this day and age

[u/alfooboboao → u/2chainzzzz]

yeah the laughing and celebrating was the problem.

it was clearly a shoulder to helmet hit, not crown to crown, but that distinction doesn’t matter AT ALL when someone’s in the hospital your whole team’s body language screams “oh hell yeah! we KOd their best player”

it’s awful, I would be so fucking upset if the situation was reversed. this is no fun anymore

[u/bartspoon → u/Original-Teaching326]

It absolutely was his fault. It sucks, but it happened because he slid late.

The celebrations were garbage. But the hit was all on the QB.

[u/purplebuffalo55 → u/bartspoon]

Yea I was gonna say from the outrage I thought he would have slid super early … it was pretty late. The celebration afterwards makes it clear the hit was intentional, but it was still a late slide

[u/fadingthought → u/bartspoon]

VLC media player lets you count frames and the video posted is in 60fps. I think Moore obviously starts a slide about 12 frames before the defender hits him. You could argue that he starts a slide at as high as 20 frames before impact. So the time from slide to the defender hitting Moore is between .2 and .333 seconds, depending on your reading of the slide.

And if I'm arguing with myself over when the slide starts frame by frame, a guy on the field with a helmet on running is also going to have a delay in recognition.

[u/junghooappreciator → u/bartspoon]

Stephens bounced his own head off the turf targeting Moore. Moore slid late but Stephens is still a piece of shit and the reason this happened

[u/JRUprising]

Karma is gonna catch up to Desman Stephens

[u/Grippy1point0 → u/[deleted]]

If you're kicked out of the game you should be sent to the locker room minimum. Preferably removed from the stadium to the bus until the game is over.

Edit: Not saying this is the rule. Saying it is how it should be.

[u/InspectorDapper8012]

Tons of respect for Dante Moore and Oregon. I became a fan last year. This is heartbreaking, and I hope he fully recovers.

[u/pew_pew420420]

And here I was worried our dudes dumbass sack celebration was gonna be the worst thing to happen today 🫣

[u/SpaceMinerFighter → u/pew_pew420420]

Dude that celly is just dumb harmless college ball. Stupid and inappropriate sure but he’s not hurting anyone.

[u/pew_pew420420 → u/SpaceMinerFighter]

We can all agree, Fuck Usc

[u/_kehd → u/pew_pew420420]

Honestly: the crotch whiff and passing out after the TD was more crude than the “dicks out” one

But yeah. What the fuck was all of that from the longhorns today

[u/Ok_Profile_4092]

Anyone celebrating this injury needs to re-evaluate their life.

[u/cambn]

Scary stuff. A reminder how fragile good health is and appreciation for what the players do to their bodies as part of our favorite entertainment on weekends. Speedy recovery to that dude and fuck celebrating hurting other people…

[u/w6750]

Nightmare season for Oregon. Prayers up for Moore

[u/NotaFTCAgent]

They done fired Mahomes Jr up. Mans playing ball.

[u/Leepanator]

Classless behaviour from Riley and the entire USC program.

Late slide, not targeting, whatever. The entire program should be ashamed of their reaction.

I hope the B10 punishes them

Oh, and fuck Chris Simms

[u/alfooboboao]

thank god. what a miserable day for the program even if we somehow win the game

[u/Bayarea0 → u/alfooboboao]

I'd be more ashamed of your coaches lack of response to it. Clearly a teamwide behavior issue with no accountability.

[u/alfooboboao → u/Bayarea0]

say what you will about clay helton’s “team discipline” but he would’ve never let that happen

man, I feel like the oregon rivalry was heated in good fun up to this point but now it’s just sad. what can you even say as a USC fan, if I was an oregon fan I would want to drop a nuke on LA. we weren’t able to go to the actual game but all the oregon fans were so fun at the tailgate today too

[u/Warm_Shoulder3606]

Fuck Desman Stephens

[u/dino_castellano]

I hope he’s okay. Stephens is a POS for celebrating after doing something like that where the guy is down and hurt.

[u/altaleft]

i don’t like O but loath usc

[u/OkayishMedic15]

Suspension for that hit. No doubt.

[u/dino_castellano → u/OkayishMedic15]

💯

[u/-Nohan-]

Fuck USoCal. Team of dirty scumbags who injure people and celebrate it. And fuck them for destroying the PAC as well.

[u/tigernike1]

I used to get Lincoln Riley and Lane Kiffin mixed up.

Now I’m convinced they might be the same person.

[u/Prior-Doubt-7021]

Desmond Stevens is a genuine sociopath. Should get a major suspension.

[u/JoeTrojan]

praying for a speedy recovery.

[u/CardiacCat20]

As a Houston Astros fan I've been taking shit from southern california fans for the better part of a decade non stop.

These guys can't take shit for 30 minutes without getting bailed out by mods lol

Ten ply soft.