I know this is going to sound salty, but it’s so extremely /r/CFB brained to think that anyone outside of social media (least of all, Michigan fans) are still concerned about that scandal in 2026
This proves my point exactly lol. You’re an Ohio State fan on /r/CFB, of course you keep up with all of Michigan’s scandals. But the question was which fanbase is going through a worse time, so my answer is that none of these scandals are influencing how people feel about this current team (and ESPECIALLY Michigan fans, who this question is about). Pretty much everyone outside of Reddit is solely (and fairly) focused on Michigan being a shitty team, not the scandals that Redditors love but everyone else has moved on from
Yeah, but I’m pointing out that Michigan and Penn State fans’ levels of “down bad” (the original wording of the question) has literally nothing to do with our respective scandals. But, to be fair, given how much /r/CFB hypes up everything (on top of your fandom), I can see how you might think otherwise.
I think if you’re a fan of a team that’s struggling and you have recent off field issues that is part of being down bad. I’m not piling on Michigan with some agenda - but Michigan fans are even still dealing with warde being AD and getting a golden parachute. That’s not enjoyable unless you disagree
It’s not really about OSU fandom - I hate both teams haha. My experience with shitty teams that also have recent scandals that suck as a fan is informed by being a Cleveland Browns fan lol
I guess my assumption is that the vast majority of Michigan fans have genuinely zero opinion on Warde Manuel (and if you asked them to name the AD, most couldn’t). So that’s what I mean: I see his name mentioned constantly on /r/CFB, but never anywhere else outside of this subreddit (and so I’m applying that logic to the other scandals, where the level of discourse here isn’t representative of reality). That being said, I could be wrong. But (anecdotally tbf) as a Michigan fan, I don’t see really anyone still feeling bad about the scandals now that we can feel bad about team itself
The scandals didn’t bother you at all over the past couple years and affect your feelings as a fan negatively?
I’m not even saying it’s all fans - but there are plenty of fans beyond Reddit who know about all this stuff. Of course there are fans willing to ignore/overlook/move on from all sorts of shit (again - deep experience seeing that in another fan base). But if given the choice - which is the hypothetical here - I’d rather be a fan of a team not on the heels of that than one that is
That’s all my first comment said. If you’re gonna have to compartmentalize some past scandals they might as well be old
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