[Game Thread] Charleston Southern @ Clemson (12:00 PM ET)

[u/CFB_Referee]

GAME	Charleston SouthernCharleston Southern @ ClemsonClemson
Location	Clemson Memorial Stadium (Clemson, SC)
Time	12:00 PM ET
Watch	TV: ACC Network
	Flair ¦ Discord

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LET'S TALK FOOTBALL!

[u/soccercta100]

Of course he's the son of Danny Pearman. The nepotism in this program...

[u/bbqlyfe]

Gg Charleston Southern. I don't think VT is too worried about us. We'll see next week.

[u/DrippyBurritoMD]

Our offense is embarrassing.

[u/Midren]

I don't feel good about our team. We can't even score a passing touchdown with 3 different QB's. It's just sad at this point

[u/Megalomanizac → u/Midren]

I don’t think they were really trying all that hard after the first quarter

[u/Midren → u/Megalomanizac]

Dude if we can't score a passing TD against GS with our 2nd string that is bad. Doesn't matter if we weren't trying hard or not. We aren't a top 25 team maybe even not a top 50

[u/Megalomanizac → u/Midren]

Wasn’t even our second string. We were playing our 3rd string QB for pretty much all of that second half. Not getting a passing TD wasn’t on Tait, he throwing dots but TJ Moore didn’t fight for the ball at all.

I’m not all that concerned with the second half offense all things considered as none of them are starters anyways. They called a conservative game and intentionally kept the ball low to the ground.

[u/bbqlyfe]

Take a knee. Let's end this.

[u/AG_Aonuma]

Dave Clawson is depressing to listen to

[u/freddie_pope]

I get why we are trying to get our freshman QB to start throwing down field but why are we trying to get our 5th year with 2 INTs already on the day to throw down field?

[u/DrippyBurritoMD → u/freddie_pope]

That is a really good question

[u/DrippyBurritoMD]

Pearman is total cheeks.

[u/phatboy5289]

…are they not going to tell us what the penalty was?

[u/freddie_pope → u/phatboy5289]

I came here in case someone caught what it was lmao

[u/Megalomanizac → u/freddie_pope]

Apparently illegal substitution

[u/tmt22459]

So can we cool it with the pearman hypotheticals? Put Bradley in

[u/Megalomanizac]

Pearman is buns

[u/Midren]

Also, Tajh needs to go. Our QBs are all terrible.

[u/bbqlyfe → u/Midren]

Should've gone somewhere else to learn how to develop QBs however that's on Dabo for hiring him.

[u/Palmettor]

The dang yellow camera butterfly is back

[u/AG_Aonuma]

Reynolds better stay healthy because Pearman is garbage

[u/Midren]

Pearman isn't it lol

[u/bbqlyfe]

Running the offense from 12 years ago isn't a ringing endorsement

[u/crazylinebacker-55]

We have a white RB???

[u/VCURedskins]

I am sure the Rhoback clothes are nice but I would have a hard time paying $145 for a shirt or a hoodie

[u/Palmettor]

Nominative determinism strikes again with Burley.

[u/bbqlyfe]

That looked like vintage Clemson Defense

[u/Its_Normal99 → u/bbqlyfe]

Against Charleston

[u/Megalomanizac]

That’s why Pearman isn’t starting

[u/bbqlyfe]

That wasn't a good play

[u/CIemson]

THATS HOW A WHITE MAN RUNS THE FOOTBALL

[u/CIemson → u/CIemson]

Alright fuck yall it was a reference to the longest yard because we had a white RB come in

[u/Wandering_Mallard]

If i was a 5* reciever there is no amount of money you could pay me to come here

[u/HugeJoke → u/Wandering_Mallard]

It’s a shame too because we were like the WRU of the 2010s. Watkins, Hopkins, Williams, Higgins, Renfrow, Ross, Scott, and I could keep going!

[u/Midren → u/Wandering_Mallard]

Well when Tajh Body is the QB coach, what do you expect?

[u/Megalomanizac]

How is that incomplete?

[u/mescad → u/Megalomanizac]

He didn't have control when it hit the ground. It was clear from the review, sadly.

[u/chadwip]

I know he just got hurt but has Tristan Smith ever been in the correct place doing the right thing?

[u/StreetReporter → u/chadwip]

He forced the fumble on the kickoff and caught a jump ball touchdown against SMU last year

[u/CIemson]

Better jump ball than our entire first team has thrown all year

[u/Aggravating-Mind-657]

Hoping Clemson has been just mid since they don’t want to expose to much to Virginia tech

[u/Megalomanizac → u/Aggravating-Mind-657]

That is certainly why theyve had conservative calls

[u/bbqlyfe]

Why pull Peerman out after 1 play?

[u/Larry-Haboobi]

How are we still letting edge rushers get free runs in the back field

[u/CosmoMorris]

Why is Chad Powers a tv show?

[u/tagillaslover]

god this is embarrassing

[u/Megalomanizac]

Most predictable run play ever

[u/CIemson]

I’ve seen enough Start Pearman immediately

[u/tagillaslover]

For all Tait's issues he seems to do a pretty good job of picking up pressure and evading it, pretty big guy to so he can slip out of some tackle attempts

[u/CIemson]

One passing TD?? Jesus christ

[u/StreetReporter → u/CIemson]

He should’ve had one against Miami, but Wesco got tackled at the 1

[u/tagillaslover]

Oh and I see Tristan Smith forced a fumble on a kick return. At least he's finally doing something, no idea why we went through all the trouble of getting him back only to not play him at all when he was decent last year

[u/tagillaslover]

Checking back in we still haven thrown a passing td and tait has 120 yards...oh dear

[u/RipRaycom]

I mean I’m pretty sure Dabo’s reasoning there is that we’ll have no other reason to use those timeouts up 34-0

[u/DisgruntledAlpaca]

Not being able to throw against Charleston Southern is a bad fucking sign.

[u/StreetReporter]

Punting is bullshit, let Nolan go for the record

[u/CIemson]

Tait doesn’t have any semblance of a deep ball dude just 0 accuracy on any pass over 25 yards

[u/VCURedskins]

When you give up a sack like that you have to at least help your QB up afterwards

[u/StreetReporter]

There is good news, even in one of our worst years we’re handling our FCS opponent. Many teams can’t say that

[u/DrippyBurritoMD]

TJ Moore is playing like someone with a ton of talent and zero heart. Watching the replays of him just basically give up on balls as soon as the defender engages and not have that passion and drive to push through that much smaller defender and get to the damn ball is really frustrating.

[u/Wandering_Mallard → u/DrippyBurritoMD]

Feels like years since I've seen a clemson receiver fight for a 50/50 ball

[u/DrippyBurritoMD → u/Wandering_Mallard]

Honestly, at this point, I would rather see an offensive passenger interference, penalty for a guy fighting for the ball then seeing them give up five seconds before the ball lands

[u/Wandering_Mallard]

Damn Jimbo Fisher is on ACC network these days?

[u/StreetReporter → u/Wandering_Mallard]

Clemson alumni Jimbo Fisher

[u/bbqlyfe]

Leave the starters in until they get the passing game together

[u/Stevonius → u/bbqlyfe]

Agreed!

[u/DrippyBurritoMD → u/bbqlyfe]

That is my thought. This team still has a chance to play their way into the ACC championship game. We need a lot more work if we’re gonna make a run at it. This team has not earned a second half rest.

[u/mflynn00]

Who's ready for a maddening second half??

[u/BigTimeHate]

I know that kicks gonna only say 59 yds but it’s windy as all hell here and that was into the teeth of it

[u/crazylinebacker-55]

Hauser better get fucking drafted or I'll be mad af

[u/StreetReporter → u/crazylinebacker-55]

He still has two more years at Clemson if he wants

[u/Megalomanizac → u/StreetReporter]

He might as well take the nfl payout after this season.

[u/tmt22459 → u/Megalomanizac]

He prob makes more here than he will as a rookie kicker

[u/lumpybarnacle27]

May not have a passing attack past 5 yards but we do have a kicker

[u/mflynn00]

Man, imagine if we were good and had a kicker

[u/Pyrozooka0]

Lmao we had no reason to attempt that that was just mean

[u/Midren]

Our kicker is actually our best player this year.

[u/Aggravating-Mind-657]

Hauser is team mvp

[u/TheRealSlamShiddy]

Holy crap haha

[u/custombimmer]

omg he nailed it lol

[u/chadwip]

Tait does not look anywhere near ready to execute a viable offense

[u/IronSmoltz → u/chadwip]

He isn’t. I get he’s a freshman and he’s a gamer, but man, he’s just not ready for this at all. TJ Moore and this shit OL aren’t helping him, but we really can’t complete a pass past 5 yards downfield with any consistency.

[u/chadwip → u/IronSmoltz]

Yeah when Clawsen pointed that out on the broadcast it was jarring to hear. This is Charleston Southern

[u/KingBroseidon5 → u/chadwip]

I feel like it’s clear he has a high ceiling, but he’s just so green that he misses the easy stuff way too frequently to be reliable

[u/chadwip → u/KingBroseidon5]

Is it clear? Felt like Klubnik had a higher ceiling early in his career

[u/KingBroseidon5 → u/chadwip]

I agree with you there. Cade looked like the savior we needed when he came in during the ACCCG as a freshman. Reynolds just looks like the better of two bad options rn, but an option that can grow into something good.

[u/Wandering_Mallard]

94 passing yards in a half.... on Charleston Southern

[u/custombimmer]

59 yards in this wind? Dude just throw it

[u/DrippyBurritoMD → u/custombimmer]

Aged like milk.

[u/custombimmer → u/DrippyBurritoMD]

yep lol

[u/Revolutionary-Ruin]

Fun fact: I've just been called for rushing the passer in this game. Refs weren't having my excuse that I'm on a different continent

[u/DrippyBurritoMD → u/Revolutionary-Ruin]

You are a menace. :)

[u/Dreadbound1]

These passes are awful.

[u/DrippyBurritoMD → u/Dreadbound1]

Yea. Tait looking a bit too nervous when faced with pressure.

[u/Midren]

just put flags on QB's at this point if you can't hit them at all

[u/Iolkos]

Equally soft lol

[u/custombimmer]

ahh yes the make up call

[u/DrippyBurritoMD]

Soft penalty but at least they are consistent.

[u/bbqlyfe]

Ban the bubble screen

[u/IronSmoltz → u/bbqlyfe]

Sure, but can we complete any passes downfield? Between Tait’s inaccuracy, Moore’s refusal to fight for the ball, and an OL that simply can’t block, downfield passes are quite an endeavor for us.

[u/custombimmer]

can't wait till the election is over so we don't have to see the ads anymore

[u/Palmettor → u/custombimmer]

At least there haven’t been a lot of gambling ads this game

[u/DrippyBurritoMD]

If we could get a few guys for the O line this team could be a solid 10-2/9-3 team next year

[u/Wandering_Mallard]

Mr Brightside is a just okay song

[u/lumpybarnacle27]

I get its ACC network but these announcers are just brutal with the player names today

[u/TheRealSlamShiddy]

that hit made me wince, glad dude seems to be alright enough to walk off field

[u/Wandering_Mallard]

31-0 never fails to bring a smile to my face

[u/custombimmer]

good to see he was able to walk away

[u/MidlandsBraves]

Hope he’s ok and feel for him but I don’t think it was a dirty hit at all.

[u/MidlandsBraves]

I can’t wait for Moore to transfer and look like a solid wide out somewhere else. Is it coaching, attitude? Idk but he’s been disappointing

[u/IronSmoltz → u/MidlandsBraves]

He looks like most Grisham coached WRs. Inconsistent, lazy blocker, takes routes off, but you see the talent there.

[u/MidlandsBraves → u/IronSmoltz]

And they never get more physical. I mean my god Williams Watkins Bryant Renfrow Hopkins Higgins etc. all got to be huge by year 2-3 …. Our wide outs start out stick and bones and never put on much weight.

[u/StreetReporter]

We might’ve killed that returner

[u/DrippyBurritoMD → u/StreetReporter]

It didnt look that bad in the replay but he is clearly in a bad way. Hopefully he just got the wind knocked out of him.

[u/custombimmer]

ok then

[u/Aggravating-Mind-657]

Clemson needs these type of games for season opener. Not lsu and georgia

[u/DrippyBurritoMD → u/Aggravating-Mind-657]

Agreed. There is no incentive to do it.

[u/Wandering_Mallard → u/Aggravating-Mind-657]

Don't worry, with 24 playoff teams those games probably aren't happening anymore

[u/custombimmer → u/Aggravating-Mind-657]

yeah let Miami play those

[u/StreetReporter → u/Aggravating-Mind-657]

Well we’re playing Georgia State in week 0 next year before going to NC State on Labor Day

[u/Wandering_Mallard]

Just got in front of my TV, how has Tait looked so far?

[u/Megalomanizac → u/Wandering_Mallard]

He’s doing great outside of that one fumble

[u/Aggravating-Mind-657 → u/Wandering_Mallard]

Tait shows lots of raw talent. Worked thru progressions, evading sacks.

Can connect with receivers in end zone and fumbled ball.

[u/StreetReporter → u/Wandering_Mallard]

Tait can throw, TJ can’t catch

[u/HugeJoke → u/StreetReporter]

He can’t even run his route

[u/SectionDry1227 → u/Wandering_Mallard]

All incompletions have been to Moore

[u/custombimmer → u/SectionDry1227]

and they have mostly hit his stone ass hands

[u/DrippyBurritoMD]

At some point, we just stopped trying to throw that path to Moore? We seem like we’re able to run the ball pretty much at Will. Let’s just run the damn ball.

[u/ForceGhostVader → u/DrippyBurritoMD]

I think we’ve all recognized that we need that type of play in bigger games. Think they’re just trying to get game reps on it because it used to be our go to for that 4-8 yard TD. Haven’t connected well on it in years and is one of the reasons we’re 135th in the redzone. I’d rather get Moore some confidence on it than run up the score on Charleston Southern

[u/Dreadbound1]

One of these commentators seems to despise Clemson lol

[u/West_Rise_3330 → u/Dreadbound1]

Every one of them does

[u/StreetReporter → u/Dreadbound1]

If it’s Dave Clawson it’s probably because we owned him and his offense. He once bitched about Tiger Band being too loud at Wake Forest

[u/Pyrozooka0 → u/StreetReporter]

We shoulda brought the full band to the next away game at Wake just to troll him lmao.

[u/McGallon_Of_Milk]

Maybe this team will score 50 after all

[u/custombimmer → u/McGallon_Of_Milk]

we are going to see some backups in the 2nd half for sure

[u/DrippyBurritoMD → u/custombimmer]

I hope not too many. This first string squad needs a lot more work.

[u/Megalomanizac]

Bench TJ. He’s not even trying, let the freshmen get their shot

[u/LeReddit9GagXD]

He panicked so hard there, protect the ball man

[u/SectionDry1227]

Take Moore out

[u/custombimmer]

this camera guy is drunk

[u/CIemson]

We really don’t have a single deep threat 50/50 ball receiver do we?

[u/IronSmoltz → u/CIemson]

Even if we did, Grisham would surely coach it out of them like he has since the last of Scott’s WRs left. He can recruit, but he produces WRs who take plays off, don’t block, and run bad routes.

[u/jerkinmylurkin → u/CIemson]

I don’t think our O line gives them enough time to run down field

[u/SectionDry1227]

5 incompletions all to Moore

[u/Iolkos]

Can we please throw a single fade to Wesco

[u/JHP-23]

Dude are we fucking serious

[u/custombimmer]

Bentancur is a monster

[u/bbqlyfe]

Wide outs should be scorching this secondary.

[u/StreetReporter]

A Swinney wouldn’t have dropped that snap

[u/tagillaslover → u/StreetReporter]

I suppose that’s the one bright side of Dabos nepotism is us having competent holders

[u/StreetReporter]

The ball didn’t lie, Charleston Southern shouldn’t have been in field goal range to begin with

[u/bbqlyfe]

10 looked like he didn't want to take the hit.

[u/LeReddit9GagXD]

Literally just give them flags football at this point. The sport has been destroy in a lot of ways the last 5 years, but the way that they throw flags on hits is one of the biggest culprits. They care about “player safety” SOOO much that they just expanded the season, by the way 😆

[u/Iolkos]

Soft

[u/Wandering_Mallard]

Let's get some good tape, this could be an opponent in the 2029 256 team CFP

[u/custombimmer]

soft ass call

[u/AG_Aonuma]

Horrendous call

[u/StreetReporter]

Garbage call

[u/tagillaslover]

Tj moore is so frustrating. Like he’s a very talented receiver that has hands, good speed and can get open but he just doesn’t give a shit most of the time. Was this way last year too. Not sure if it’s related to the team sucking or he’s just lazy 

[u/custombimmer]

ankles broke before the snap

[u/Iolkos]

They’ve done that exact play successfully like 3 times already

[u/CIemson]

Our passing offense before under Morris was fairly electric (minus the screens) so is this a talent issue?

[u/tagillaslover → u/CIemson]

I think the game has adapted, but also yeah the oline kinda stinks and Tait is still a true freshman 

[u/AG_Aonuma → u/CIemson]

Lack of talent on the OL is the primary issue, although Moore doesn't look like he cares at all

[u/jthomas694]

I think they really want to get Trait Reynolds some pass TDs today to boost his confidence

[u/custombimmer → u/jthomas694]

WR's have to catch the ball

[u/StreetReporter → u/jthomas694]

I mean, he’s been making the throws. I’m more concerned about the confidence of the WRs

[u/HugeJoke → u/StreetReporter]

I don’t understand how Grisham still has a job

[u/Revolutionary-Ruin]

TJ, just batting the ball in the endzone doesn't count...you need to actually catch it

[u/JHP-23]

Someone on the staff put a bet on Moore to score a touchdown. Only explanation

[u/jerkinmylurkin → u/JHP-23]

Probably won’t him to get some confidence since he keeps dropping them

[u/Midren]

Bench moore at this point. He's had is chance

[u/custombimmer]

get off these in game interviews

[u/Megalomanizac]

They’re treating this like practice more than a real game. Which fair, try the fancy shit and other stuff now but usually you don’t do that until you have more than a 10 point lead.

I guess I can’t complain too much though, the game is going as these types of games should

[u/StreetReporter]

The worst thing about that Georgia Tech game last year is that Dabo will never again break out purple for games other than Military Appreciation

[u/AG_Aonuma → u/StreetReporter]

It was always the week of Veterans Day. Why are they doing it in October?

[u/dmazx]

Hate to say nice things about Clemson but the purple uniforms always look so good

[u/Steelman__007]

CSU gonna comeback. I can feel it. Go Bucs

[u/JustHereForCatss]

God these dooms day prepper commercials are so fucking creepy

[u/CIemson]

Unfortunately this game will tell us nothing

[u/JustHereForCatss]

There we go

[u/MidlandsBraves]

Ball looked to skip on the ground

[u/Midren]

Can we just ban screen passes for 1 game? I just hate watching us play when that's all we do. It's not fun

[u/Stevonius → u/Midren]

That's our only option until Reynolds learns how to throw the ball more than 5 yards.

[u/West_Rise_3330 → u/Midren]

I would be down for that if ee had oline

[u/Uhdoyle → u/Midren]

I’m sorry, pal, but we just re-hired the Screen Queen at OC

[u/JustHereForCatss]

For the record I want Clemson to do well. I have a few friends who are Clemson fans, one of my favorite games I've ever seen was at death valley (the real one), and y'all deserve more than what you're getting. I just want that on the record in case I start to get critical of this Clemson team because of how bad they're playing

[u/bbqlyfe → u/JustHereForCatss]

Back atcha. Hope y'all beat 'Bama!

[u/SectionDry1227 → u/JustHereForCatss]

Thanks orange friend

[u/Apart_Selection7722]

Should have gone for it

[u/StreetReporter]

Why would you kick it there? 4th and 1 as a heavy underdog, not to mention the wind has been crazy all day

[u/niners0101]

One of the worst decisions I’ve seen attempting a long field goal there

[u/ItBeLikeThat19]

You're Charleston Southern and you're playing Clemson. Go for it.

[u/MidlandsBraves → u/ItBeLikeThat19]

It was also like 4th and 1 not like 4th and 5

[u/MidlandsBraves]

Absolutely perfect weather today. It was like in the low 90s this week in cola. Now? Absolutely beautiful day today.

[u/Incognito_Joe → u/MidlandsBraves]

Clear skies and some wind but a fine day

[u/JustHereForCatss]

You can't coach scared especially when you're this out matched