Arch Manning and Bryce Underwood are making a strong case for NIL refund policies

[u/Acceptable_Paint_455]

Arch Manning just lost to Florida after a late strip-sack, and Bryce Underwood has 5 TDs and 4 INTs through five games while Michigan sits 17th out of 18 Big Ten teams in scoring offense.

Two of the most hyped QB recruits in recent memory, with millions in NIL money attached to their names.
At this point, the best players on both their teams might be their agents.

[u/CertainCanary1588]

Blame the schools who gave it to them. Underwood is actively losing Michigan games so who cares. Let the free markets work

[u/Set-Admirable → u/CertainCanary1588]

I'm all for paying players, but these coaches need to learn that a talented 17- or 18-year-old probably isn't worth blowing a team's NIL budget on.

[u/tlopez14 → u/Set-Admirable]

Yah I don’t know why top schools wouldn’t just go pluck a Darius Mensah type of guy instead of rolling the dice on a high school kid. I think top recruits will have to start setting for less money or going to tier 2 schools

[u/Adams5thaccount → u/tlopez14]

Then when they do prove themselves, most of the time theyll get plucked by the bigger budget schools. Sometimes they'll fall in love with the school and stay. Occasionally the smaller schools will use these moments as their opportunities to convince their respective boosters and departments that now is the time to go to the next level and they keep the players that way.

Sometimes those players who move to a bigger stage will be stars. Sometimes they'll still bust.

No matter what outcome happens though, there will always and forever be people who are using this topic as a thin disguise to bitch about players being paid at all.

[u/Many-Use-1797 → u/tlopez14]

Or teams could go back to the old days and give seniors/juniors priority playing time. By letting the new kids sit on the bench and learn for a year, they will develop skills needed down the road.

[u/tlopez14 → u/Many-Use-1797]

Yah I think that will be an option. Take a little less money and go to Ohio State/Texas or take more money and go to an Oklahoma St/SMU with an eye on transferring to a bigger school later. Unless transfer rules change I don’t see the upside in top schools offering big money to high schoolers.

[u/BigOlPass → u/Set-Admirable]

You say that but then someone gets the next Johnny Manziel, Trevor Lawrence or Jameis Winston

[u/dmazx → u/BigOlPass]

Letting someone get one of those players for 4 years while also sprinkling busts in there, that absolutely burn the program evens things out a bit. At some point, the donors will stop writing blank checks.

[u/Gazzarris → u/dmazx]

Troy Aikman complained that he wrote a big NIL check, and the guy who got the money transferred out after a season. He swears he won’t write another check.

[u/professorlust → u/Gazzarris]

In all fairness, it was “only” 100k. Like that’s definitely serious money but it’s also not starting QB money

[u/BigOlPass → u/dmazx]

You say that but I see no evidence that's true. Being a booster is already irrational

[u/Adams5thaccount → u/dmazx]

International soccer indicates otherwise

[u/hunkachunkamunka → u/dmazx]

You must not know any texas oil billionaires if you think the blank checks are gonna stop.

Perhaps after we all transition to solar.

[u/dmazx → u/hunkachunkamunka]

I’m willing to be introduced if you know any

[u/Patrick2701 → u/BigOlPass]

Arch manning got paid because his last name is QB royalty

[u/Thorlolita → u/BigOlPass]

Those are once in a generation talents though

[u/BigOlPass → u/Thorlolita]

Which what people thought or hoped Arch and Underwood would be.

[u/anonymous_otter28 → u/Set-Admirable]

who are they spending it on then? a 30 yr old freshman?

[u/Misdirected_Colors → u/Set-Admirable]

Yea, i think the way to go is poach proven players from other teams or the G5. Unfortunately, that was always gonna be the way open transfer and NIL was gonna work

[u/Lithops_salicola → u/CertainCanary1588]

Not the player's fault the schools signed bad contracts.