r/CriticalThinkingIndia • u/Oppyhead • Nov 07 '25
Ask CTI Who is right in this context?
It’s the end of 2025, and somehow we are still fighting about languages. The reason isn’t that people dislike diversity. It’s that language is personal. It shapes how we think, how we connect, and how we see ourselves in society. When a language feels ignored or disrespected, the speakers feel the same. There’s also a practical side. Education, government services, and technology all work more smoothly with common standards. Balancing that efficiency with cultural identity is tough. The real challenge is that every language carries history, pride, and belonging. So language debates continue, not because we want conflict, but because everyone wants to be heard in their own voice.
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u/Over_Effective4291 Nov 07 '25
where is the audio? Where are the english subtitles? Such a low effort post
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u/bongtin Nov 07 '25
Audio is very much there. In the words of the passionate Mr Mamdani, "turn the volume up".
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Nov 07 '25
What about english... Are we doing the same for english too... All have a problem with one of the Indic language but for English we don't have any issues right? Complete nonsense...
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u/LeatherLegitimate914 Nov 07 '25
English is a link language which is used all over the world there is no point for a non hindi speaking person to learn Hindi when English is there nd english is useful everywhere only cow belt gawars oppose it ...also the day your cowbelt folks start learning other people languages too that day non hindi people will support hindi too till then either get your people educated or fight among eachother till u people understand that only One language don't matter.
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u/Interesting-Appeal35 Nov 07 '25
What is our national language?
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Nov 09 '25
I never understand the people who perceive language as their identity. Language is meant to communicate. If the goal of the communication is to spread the message faster, one should opt for a widely accepted language. In this context, one should ask what is the scale and objective of the communication. Is it specific to a group of locals or a majority of native speakers? If so, stick to the local language.
Linguistic identity is more suited for a collective and a larger scale. On the contrary, interpersonal communication is very subjective.
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u/Illustrious_Monk_960 Nov 07 '25
Fighting over language? Seems like it's Hindi every time. So you know who the problem is
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u/Conscious_Class3080 Nov 07 '25
I stand with the hindi imposition.
But this act clearly looks staged. If the speech was circulated to every member y didn't he dissent then? And in a house I think they are allowed to use their language and it is all translated for everyone.
Politicians are using this language rage for their own benefits more than anything else.
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u/Bitchinh Nov 10 '25
Brother please return to the cow belt. We truly don't want uncouth people from the north anywhere near us. Is learning english that hard or yall are just that thick?
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Nov 07 '25
The audacity to continue in Hindi, while ignoring and not addressing the request put in front of him ! - tells things in magnitude, the respect and consideration these people have towards the diversity of this country.
Why worry about china or terrorism, while the Northern Hindi colonialism is eating up this country from inside.
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u/Apprehensive_Sleep14 Nov 07 '25
Speaking in the colonizer s language and declaring ourself independent is crazy
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u/Jeenekhainchardin Nov 07 '25
Lol dude u r commenting in english on an app developed by west, u use a chinese mobile and 100% of ur home’s appliances come from china designed by either west or japan/korea. The day u stop speaking a global language will b the day u’ll loose any opportunity to work in any MNC or even startups 😹
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u/NoHandle9608 Nov 07 '25
Being diverse has always been an identity of India, remember unity in diversity. Why would you push a non local language, respect the local culture and language and let them speak the local language.
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u/totallyhellfell Nov 09 '25
This is just a PR stunt at this point, rather than to facilitate each other they make an issue about the language barrier
India is a country who despite having two official languages as English & Hindi still doesn't impose those languages where other scheduled languages are spoken by the majority. But they still moan & bitch about hindi imposition like Hindi is supposed to be a crude & unfamiliar language to them. They desperately create the barriers between local languages and Hindi speakers which were not there at all a few years ago all this to create negative propaganda and alienate people of central region.
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u/Coffee_Senior Nov 07 '25
The audacity of the governor to ignore every single word he spoke and continue in hindi!
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u/Palladiumgold1996 Nov 07 '25
Is it an ignorant behaviour or a foolish behaviour exhibited by the honourable governor? It is not just about imposition of a particular language on a state that largely speaks another language. It is about basics of communication- speaking in a language understood by the masses. Or else the message gets lost in translation, leading to ineffective communication. Communication is a two way process between speaker and listener, and if the speaker doesn't respect the language that listener belongs to , it is better to not speak at all.
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u/This-Ad3084 Nov 08 '25
Known by the masses haha. What about english? Never will you hear someone from ne disrespecting english.
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u/Palladiumgold1996 Nov 08 '25
I am confused by the statement you're making. Which side you are in? I had simply stated that a constitutional head of a state, which is addressing a house where predominantly English language is used for official transaction of the house ought to be addressed in that way. When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
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u/tannatuva_0 Nov 07 '25
Singapore avoided all this conflict between ethno-linguistic groups (Chinese, Malay, Tamils) by simply adopting and promoting english as the main offical language and a secondary "mother tongue" which could any one of the languanges (Mandarin, Malay, Tamil, dialects of chinese or one Indian language),even though Chinese speakers were the majority (76% of population) during independence and could have easily dominated everyone else.
They choose a foreign language over a native one because they knew if you picked one native language out from a multilingual society to favour it as the offical language it would create ethnic tensions and possible civil war
While in India hindi speakers are just 40-50% of the population they don't have the foresight that favouring a native language in a multilingual subcontinent over a neutral foreign one due to nationalistic ideals will inevitable lead to ethno-linguistic tensions, this isn't a recent issue drummed up by oppostion parties, strong anti hindi sentiments existed since the 1960s
There was civil war in Pakistan/Bangladesh and to some extent Sri Lanka due to ethno-linguistic faults, east pakistan tried breakaway due to Urdu imposition/supremacy on bengali speakers, is this the path India should choose to follow?
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u/Severe-Succotash-119 Nov 11 '25
Hindi should be used as a link language..but when a non native speaker settling in a state for long duration..then he or she should learn native language like kannada..marathi..or bengali..tamil etc
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u/Omnibobbia Nov 07 '25
This is what happens when the parliament is like a museum. Old relics
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u/dukemall Nov 07 '25
Just make English and the state language as official language. One of the language must be used for all government function. If two people can't communicate in state languages then they must use English language as mode of communication.
Simple.
But this has nothing to do with language as communication but language as a political tool and for that there is no remedy.
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u/Jazzlike-Rock6705 Nov 07 '25
Just make English and the state language as official language.
If only it was easy for illiterate Hindthi speaking northies to learn English.
When are you people gonna understand that? It's about the inability to learn something because they are severely limited with less than two brain cells? It's really not about imposition.
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u/General-Midnight89 Nov 11 '25
It was under Modi govt, the entire manipur burned for 2 years, so no to hindi imposition
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u/Lady_Lava_2k Nov 07 '25
After watching the whole video I came to the same conclusion that I've been getting for some time. 1. Starting from the beginning he explains that the governor should speak in a language that they'll understand or else he'll shout. 2. The governor starts to read his pages in hindi and the guy begins shouting in english and his native language. 3. A third member intervenes and says everything that the governor is saying is given to every member in writing so they won't have any problem understanding whatever he is saying. 4. The guy gets angry and leaves with his supporters.
---- From my point of view There should be a translator of native language or if there are multiple languages then english or whatever language they are comfortable with. And that's it. ---- If they want their language speaking chairman then in that case they should elect a person who's capable of speaking their language as well as tackling various geographical, political, economical etc problems as well.
-----Like the current problem of the identity crisis in western countries of he/she/they/them. I don't care if you identify yourself as a helicopter or some other thing. Just explain calmly.It is always the loud and obnoxious ones that get on the nerves.
----Just like that, rather than focusing on problems like corruption, unemployment, overpopulation, education quality, brain drain, cost of living, inflation, etc. they're focusing on which language to speak... I mean what the hell.
---- I don't even care.. hell they can choose a donkey as a chairman but if that'll help in the development of the nation and removal of these different problems I've said above while being ethical (I don't mean that overpopulation should be tackled with a massacre) then in that case I'll support him too.
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u/MexITS Nov 07 '25
The reason Hindians are so arrogant and don't learn local languages is cause of "bollywood" hindi industry. People must stop speaking and playing hindi movies/songs in their states. This way the hindians will hopefully get it.
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u/norsefenrir8 Nov 07 '25
Every single person that speaks Hindi in india is speaking second language. Hindi is not anyones first language. So, take take you lie somewhere else.
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u/MexITS Nov 07 '25
People from punjabi, bengal, karnataka, assam,... are too kind and speak Hindi with Migrants BUT most of the migrants dont five a damn about learning and speaking the state langauge of the land. They like to make money for their families but not blend in.
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u/norsefenrir8 Nov 07 '25
Those migrants are making effort by speaking in hindi. Their native language is NOT Hindi. They are not imposing their native languages on anybody. To understand this, these are their native languages: Bihar(Maithili, Bhojpuri, and Magahi), UP (bundelkhandi, braj, khadi, awdhi, bhojpuri), Rajasthan (marwadi, dhundari, shekhawati, mewadi etc), MP (Bundeli, Malvi, Nimadi, Bagheli, Gondi, Bhili, Marathi).
Don't fall for language based hate propaganda. Hindi is for people to connect, that's it. That's what our constitution says.
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u/Hefty_Blacksmith_266 Nov 07 '25
THE WORLD HAVE 99 PROBLEMS LETS MAKE 1 MORE is the motto of all language imposing parties. They don't fulfill their promises but they are always ready to fight for this bullshit. Language is something that humans made they will sort that out on their own we dont need them to teach us what to speak and what not. if a bihari goto punjab he will eventually start speaking punjabi because everyone will be speaking that only. if a Haryanvi goto assam he will eventually learn assamese because that will be the common language. we dont need war over language we need war over basic human amenities that these politicians fail to provide. increase our gdp per capita you fools dont teach us what to speak.
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u/ManofTheNightsWatch Nov 07 '25
Using translator would have been respectful and leave no room for argument. What the governer did was plain disrespect.
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u/scabsilicon345 Nov 07 '25
The way you make racist remarks against other languages is exactly the reason people are against hindi speakers. Entitled brats like u think everyone must adjust to your comfort. Pathetic.
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Nov 07 '25
It's not oppose to native language but welcome doors for global economy. There are hundreds of country focused their language to English and India will lose their impact on the global market.
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u/Sea-Attorney-1526 Nov 07 '25
Hindi speakers can use translators too for other languages. Goes both ways.
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u/No_Turnip_5650 Nov 07 '25
This MLA demonstrated what its like having a spine. Our esteemed MLA says “मराठी माझी आई आहे आणि हिंदी माझी मावशी, आई मेली तरी चालेल पण मावशी जगली पाहिजे “ which translates to : ‘Marathi is our mother and Hindi is our (maternal) aunt, its fine if our mother dies but the aunt should survive. This guy would do anything and everything to cater to his northie votebank.
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u/Worldly-Pie9205 Nov 07 '25
Marathi politicians give bytes to media in Hindi these days, how many north politicians have we seen talk anywhere in marathi or other languages in their own state.
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u/sleepbot63 Nov 07 '25
Honestly in my opinion all government employees should learn to speak English not only for standardization of communication, but for easy usage of software and forms which are almost all written in English.
However no government should have the power to impose what language a normal civilian speaks except for it is their choice.
That being said language is a very strong weapons for all governments as it makes sure they have a safe vote bank.
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u/Darth_Saber07 Nov 07 '25
I would really hate it if English is given more importance than native but i guess they have to now
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Nov 07 '25
We have to give more importance than native. We cannot stick longer duration for our cultural and moral values.
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u/T3hHarv3y Nov 07 '25
Not a member or the sub but an NRI (Punjabi American born here) I always wondered why India never took the Singapore route of making English the main language for Economic reasons, and still allow local languages to be taught within their regions.
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u/Worldly-Pie9205 Nov 07 '25
Because according to Hindi speakers English is a colonial, white bootlicker language and they would rather impose and imperialise their own countrymen than allow white people to do it. The fact that we can take that is not native to us and use it to our advantage (and globally) eludes them.
Hindi speakers are brainwashed into thinking Hindi is a national language (we have none) and confidently spout this nugget everywhere.
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u/madhan4u Nov 07 '25
Bold of you to assume that the Hindi speakers have the intellectual ability to learn English or any other extra language
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u/NoCommunication5140 Nov 07 '25
I hope you are just trying to ragebait atp because this is just pure hate
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u/pentium77 Nov 07 '25
Hindi is not the language of the Meghalaya & many other states across India. Why the fcuk is that Bimaru guy speaking in Hindi & forcing his stupid language on rest of India ? The Meghalaya guy is absolutely right in his stance.
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u/_zoro1012 Nov 07 '25
I hate the confidence of these cow belt people! Just because they are majority in India, they think everyone should learn their language!
Like stop breeding like rabbits, which is causing unemployment in their own state and so the migrations happen! lol they think instead of improving their own state which gets too much cut from tax money which we working class pay, they should impose Hindi on others
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u/Happy_Independent620 Nov 07 '25
the mods are clearly biased they removed my comments yes these politicians are cruel hypocrites just want us to fight over languages instead of developing our country
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u/Greedy-Can-9352 Nov 07 '25
3 language policy is such a waste of time for government, teachers and students. Central government should enable building solid math, science and social value foundations in their native language for primary and higher primary schools. instead of giving them one more unnecessary subject to study.
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u/Brave_Thing_862 Nov 07 '25
Mature people will know more than fighting to impose majority’s mother tongue why don’t we have a all over different one where no one is affected like English, or north people are not ready to get educated so they don’t want English??
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u/VermicelliWild8840 Nov 09 '25
All cultures and languages are beautiful. Each one has a right to be accepted across India. This is just a political strategy to misguide people and take away attention from the core issues. For people supporting/not supporting the incident, ask yourself, is this a real issue? Are you being provided with proper infrastructure from the local language speaking leaders, are they working tirelessly on improving education, health metrics in your area? How is your connectivity to the world? Do they support local businesses and entrepreneurs? How is the crime rate in your area? This is what should be important to us.
This is noise, period. Don’t fan it further 🙏🏼
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u/fullMetalUchiha Nov 11 '25
No worries they learn it anyway when they move to other states for jobs.
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u/popatopssssssssssss Nov 08 '25
The caption and framing of the issue is misleading all! Next time use ChatGPT to form an opinion on current issues rather than Reddit fkbsp.
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u/Melodic-Lab2710 Nov 09 '25
Guy looks like a Jesus freak...even Jesus don't know what english language is
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u/Weak_Distribution822 The Curious One🐟 Nov 07 '25
If governor only knows hindi then, firstly why appoint someone to a state they do not know the language of, second, why not use a simple translator? Both are wrong. Governor should have realised he is not in a Hindi speaking state and the other guy should realize that not everyone is obligated to speak his language. Machines are made to solve this exact problem. Dragging this on is nothing but creating controversy.
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u/VeeKay46 Nov 10 '25
Imposing any language is a problem. Not just Hindi.
You're forced to speak other languages in other states. F*ck everyone.
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u/kochurshak Nov 07 '25
You gotta understand: language imposition stems from disrespect. If I don’t have respect for your identity, your land or culture, I'll put no effort in helping you preserve it or treat you the same way I'd like to be treated. In my mind, I’m the center, the default identity of India and you're the other, the exception. It's you who has to conform to my whims because I don’t respect your individuality.
Pluralism and cultural diversity are always opposed by conservatives because what they want are conformism and consolidation. They push for it because they benefit from it. It's utterly selfish, narrow minded and halts progression.
Hindians will do well to come out of this entitlement but they've been coddled and pampered for decades. So it's the only victims who have to keep pushing back
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u/00DarkSpark00 Nov 07 '25
Let sign language be a common ground. Teach sign language to all, right from school, when two people with district mother tongue meet they can interact using sign language. For governence, management or authoritarian position, English should be used as it is widely taught and used in the country. Mother tongue to be used where it is based and spoken .Local people too need to embrace literature, theatre,cinema,and art in their mother tongue without belittling others. There shouldn't be any need to force others to speak myriad of Indian languages. We need to focus on growth and making progress. Language politics is just an example of divide and rule policy.
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u/r_kumar89 Nov 08 '25
Who named this sub "Critical Thinking"? It’s more like Brain Dead Sub. The number of people here supporting Hindi imposition really says a lot about the “quality” of critical thinking in this place.
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u/Anujmehta_28 Nov 09 '25
Would change culture and religion totally foreign to the land but wouldn't accept the indic language
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u/naikabhi Nov 08 '25
Haha but won't build bridges because they want kids to fetch next Gold medal in swimming.
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u/Equivalent_Cat_8123 Nov 07 '25
Hindi imposition is how you are made the second class citizen in your own motherland and continue to work for Hindi leaders and landowners. So you’ll always remain a slave to these ahols
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Nov 10 '25
Yet speaking in the foreign language. If the logic is like this, then we should not speak in English in companies. Why English is the said business language. Let's promote our local language in companies.
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u/EasternDrink_2999 Nov 07 '25
Ya because these NE states mostly is taken by missionaries and majority are christian now, all 7 states have christian tribals. Hard but true almost all NE tribals have converted to Christianity, few are left , soon to be taken over fully in coming years
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u/Excellent-Money-8990 Seeker🌌 Nov 07 '25
What's your point? What difference does it make? If not English then it will be khasi, garo or something else but not Hindi, so christian or no it won't make any changes
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u/Illustrious-Cause487 Nov 07 '25
English a language that doesn't even belong to this country is fine, but Hindi which is an Indian Language is not fine. Kudos meghalaya mlas
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u/knowing_proceeding Nov 07 '25
Hindi is neither their language nor that of South Indians. The Sino-Tibetan, Dravidian, and Indo-European language families are all distinct. We are not all one, buddy. Learn to respect diversity, you don’t own them.
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Nov 07 '25
Please don't fight over the languages guys. All languages are Indic and have a great history. Let us respect each other and learn well to know each other. Note taking any side please. Education has been worse because of this fight.
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u/redCornur Nov 07 '25
The Hindi imposition is mainly by the people who cannot speak English. So, why don't they just learn English instead of expecting the whole world to learn Hindi?
I am surprised we have Governors who cannot speak English. If he could speak English but chose to speak in Hindi, this is just being very disrespectful.
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Nov 07 '25
english imposition is mainly by the people who cannot speak hindi. so why dont they just learn hindi a indian language.
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u/Eshu25 The Rebel🐉 Nov 07 '25
The problem is hindi speakers don't want to learn other languages , also declaring it as national language will give north Indians an unfair advantage, you will have to give almost 70% reservation to compensate for it , will you not opposse it ?
Also why aren't funds allocated to local languages ? Sanskrit gets allocated 2000 crores but hardly any funds for local languages?
In some states hindi is as foreign as english
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u/PerceptionRealised Nov 07 '25
if the governor is not fluent in english, he should be allowed to speak in the language he is comfortable with. his speech was already distributed to everyone in english anyway.
people really find anything to just waste time instead of getting shit done.
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u/uselessidiot12634 Nov 07 '25
A common language for a country as big as india is a must. There's a fine line between diversity and discrimination. If not hindi english as a common language would work.
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u/AfraidRelation1198 Nov 07 '25
Why not common language for whole world? Let's agree on English and everyone can switch to that.
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u/OkAttention6663 Nov 07 '25
Let's agree on English and everyone can switch to that.
Who is this "everyone" that you are talking about?
Northeast people or southie people?
Or whole world where majority don't speak english (Google it).
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u/PurpleExcellent9518 Nov 07 '25
Can you explain the logic behind why "one" common language for 1.4 billion people is a must?
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u/arunkumark21 Nov 07 '25
India is getting more deals - largest importer is America. India’s major revenue is pivoted towards service sector. ITES is growing and keep growing. India is getting Billions on banking and technology sector from round the globe. So if you want to learn a language - how about python?
I am still in disbelief we are discussing whether to learn a 3rd language in this day and age when we can do a real time translation using a smart phone! People are fine tuning LLM to have real time verbal communication in any language, whats the point of spending more time in another language for everyone? If the individual is interested they will learn!
Rather than asking people to learn Hindi. Ask them to learn first! That is the need of the hour. That is what takes India forward.
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u/InternationalAsk9295 Nov 08 '25
Bhai ye impose kaun kr rha hai mt bolo ..jiyo khao mast rho🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻...na mere hindi failani hai na tumhari bhasa hadpni hai...
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u/CharacterBit5048 Nov 07 '25
Hindi imposition is not done. Stop it
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u/mace_guy Nov 07 '25
You literally saw it happen in the video. Despite multiple protests the Governor still continues to speak a language that the people of the state he is serving does not understand.
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u/Silly_Mee_ Nov 07 '25
Seems like my opinion would be unpopular here, but I do support Hindi as a common communication language. Let the official language of the state be the regional language and English. Teach Hindi till class 6 maybe and not beyond if one is not interested. No one has to learn the purest form of Hindi or be fluent, just the basic reading and speaking ability should do. It just has to be treated as a common language for communication across the country so one does not struggle when they travel. The reason for choosing Hindi is because the majority already understands this and it belongs to us. In case of any other language, there is no guarantee that even people from adjacent states can understand each other. A Kannadiga may or may not understand Malayalam. So learning Malayalam will not benefit across the country, however Hindi will, in many states.
Also, the outrage is mostly political and specifically on SM. No one is asking anyone to sideline their local language or have their day to day conversations say, at home, in Hindi. I have been to different states. People down south either willingly study Hindi or due to it being a 3rd language in school, have basic knowledge. This doesn't mean that they have discarded Telugu or Kannada. And it is definitely an advantage that they have. Let me give you an anecdote from my office. We had people mostly from the south, everyone spoke English, or their religion if they happened to be from the same state. Never Hindi. One day I was writing on my blog in Hindi, thinking no one would understand a thing anyway. Turned out, a couple of people stood behind me, reading everything I wrote and asked me about it. I was surprised and felt the disadvantage as I could not learn each and every language from the regions everyone was from.
People in my society can communicate with us, in broken language maybe, but still can, while we are mostly helpless in such a case. Also, some are such good Hindi speakers as they do sales jobs and travel a lot. Cab drivers, landlords and other professionals are also amply benefitted by knowing other than native languages, especially Hindi, so they willingly learn. Having said that, I do not mean that Hindi people should not try to learn any other language. If you are staying somewhere for the long term, you should try to at least learn the basics of the local language. I happen to live in Bangalore which is such a metro city that whatever language you speak already, it works for you, so I didn't find it absolutely necessary but my kids are studying Kannada as a 3rd language and I feel happy about it. They won't be limited the way I am. I even take it as an opportunity to learn it with them.
We all are sitting in our comfort zones and fighting over languages, considering English to be a common language for communication across the country probably just because of spite, however, the fact is that our rural population has more chances of learning Hindi than English, if they are not too proud. I have worked in Tamilnadu in a relatively smaller city for only 2 months and even the office people were really struggling with English. They expected me to learn Tamil and they were very vocal about it. I tried but I could only do so much in just 2 months. They had some Hindi staff too and they had learned the local language because of the permanent nature of their job. Out of every city/state I have been to, I have found Tamilnadu to be the least welcoming, only because of their 'too proud of our language' mindset. Signboards were only in Tamil, people will speak only Tamil; the first day when I was trying to reach the guest house from the office in a bus, was a nightmare. It was dark, I did not know the place exactly and I did not know whether the driver really understood where I had to get down. Signboards were not helping, people were speaking only Tamil. The bus passengers knew I was panicking and the stop I should be deboarding at but they kept speaking in Tamil. They did not know English because most were factory labour and were probably too proud to utter a word in broken Hindi or anything other than Tamil. Eventually I got down 1-2 km before the actual stop and called my employer to arrange for something. I cannot express how scared I was.
So yes, a common communication language is very much needed. English will not do. We should still learn any global language because of the opportunities it might offer, but that is a different thing. My vote goes to Hindi because it is already a language that many understand. It is not as glorious as Tamil sure, but here we are not comparing glory. And no, you are not supposed to surrender your identity, you just have to let go of your unnecessary pride. Language is supposed to help us communicate, we are instead creating barriers and stopping our growth because of politics. A common communication language will benefit us all as we shall not be limited at least within our country.
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u/2loquaciouslobsters Nov 07 '25
You seem to be contradicting yourself: You say:
People down south either willingly study Hindi or due to it being a 3rd language in school, have basic knowledge.
But then you also say you had a lot of trouble in the south because they did not know Hindi? Which is it? If they already learn it, why does it need to be imposed? It cannot be both.
Also, there are poor, rural people in South India too. If you as an educated, decently privileged person who can travel to multiple states could not learn enough of the local languages for easy communication, then how do you expect the poor South Indians to learn Hindi? Why do you expect more effort from poor disadvantaged people than yourself?
Are poor South Indians not human enough for you to think about them? Why is that? Even richer south Indian kids struggle with Hindi too, because a anguage is not learnt in isolation, it needs more to stick. Poor people from the south and other non-Hindi speaking states will be mostly against learning Hindi mandatorily and will struggle.
Your entire argument for Hindi is that when North Indians come to South Indian states, they don't have to struggle. Not for any benefit of South Indians. South Indians who want to shift to North India learn Hindi of their own accord. How entitled does one have to be to demand millions of people mandatorily learn your language so your life is made easier?
Your only argument for Tamil people's advantage in knowing Hindi is that more people could have read your Hindi blog? How do you even come to that conclusion lmao.
Calling Tamil people "too proud" to learn their own language as you complain about 100% of people in an entire state not knowing your language is the most entitled thing I have ever read. And disguising your own desire of ease of communication as something for the sake of poor people is honestly disgusting and hypocritical. Your entire comment is about you, a privileged person, struggling to learn other languages, but to push your point, you randomly state that akshuallyyyy it's for the sake of poor people. Be for real, lol.
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u/Gullible-Basil-2281 Nov 07 '25
So by your logic every other country other than Pakistan and Bangladesh would be least welcoming to you as the signboards would only be in the local language and not hindi.
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u/MexITS Nov 07 '25
Hindi/Hindian states are the least developed and now they want the whole India to become Hindians.
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u/Ramen_Muncher_1093 Nov 07 '25
Language is the new divide and conquer. Do petty politics on language from both sides and keep fighting amongst ourselves. Thats what politicians want. Thats how vote bank politics works
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u/Agent47legend Nov 07 '25
What’s ironic is that a lot of this “anti-Hindi imposition” anger is actually a colonial hangover. The British deliberately isolated the Northeast, created administrative barriers, and pushed English as the “neutral” identity. That legacy still shapes how many people see Indian languages today not as a shared cultural link, but as some kind of threat.
And the hypocrisy is hard to ignore:
Nobody calls it “imposition” when English becomes mandatory everywhere, even though it’s neither native nor culturally rooted.
But the moment an Indian language is mentioned, suddenly it becomes an existential crisis.
Every state promotes its own language strongly — Tamil in Tamil Nadu, Bengali in Bengal, Assamese in Assam — yet only when Hindi enters the conversation does it become a national issue.
The truth is, languages aren’t the problem. Colonial mindsets and political insecurities are. Hindi isn’t trying to erase anyone’s identity — the real erasure happened when English became the gatekeeper to education, jobs, and upward mobility. At the end of the day, demanding space for regional languages is valid. But pretending that Indian languages are “impositions” while accepting English unquestioningly is the exact hypocrisy the British left us with.
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Not at all, using a foreign language as a connecting language is way better, simply because then no one in this country gets an undue advantage or doesn't get special preference. English is foreign to everyone in this country, thus doesn't feel threatening to anyone, while for Hindi, it's not the same.
Plus the Hindi belt and hindi speakers often show an entitled attitude even when they are in other states, that makes push against Hindi even more.
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u/ManofTheNightsWatch Nov 07 '25
Hindi as a second language is fine if english wasn't required as it is today. Forcing people to learn 3 or more kills native local languages.
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u/Agent47legend Nov 07 '25
I actually agree with you that forcing 3+ languages in school can put pressure on students and sometimes sidelines local languages that’s a real concern. But the issue isn’t Hindi itself; the issue is how such language policies are implemented. English is absolutely necessary today, no argument there, but the reality is that English + regional language alone doesn’t work for everyone because only a tiny minority of Indians are comfortable using English in day-to-day communication. That’s why Hindi naturally became a second link language in many parts of the country not because it was “forced,” but because people needed a common Indian language to communicate. The solution isn’t to demonise Hindi or abandon English so let English stay for global mobility, let regional languages remain the core of identity, and let Hindi stay optional based on region. The goal should be flexibility and preserving linguistic diversity not turning one Indian language which is Hindi into the villain for problems that actually coming for politics.
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u/Anklet786 Nov 08 '25
So you are telling me that there's no difference between Brits who imposed English and the Indian Govt which is imposing Hindi rn?
English will stay as the gatekeeper as long as our languages dont add new vocabulary for technical and scientific words. Can Hindi or any other Indian language survive independently today without a single English word? The answer is No. English is the new Sanskrit/Persian which has entered our languages.
Speaking of colonial hangovers, the Hindi language contains Perso-Arabic words added by Mughal invaders. Now isnt that hypocrisy?
Because, the states were divided based on ethno-linguistic factors, however the country wasnt. And no they arent promoting it strongly, considering that a lot of states have only recently made it mandatory in their states.
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Then don't cry when people hate you in other parts of india
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We speak when we are in mainland. Stop the double standard bs of mainlanders. Get out of that superiority complex.
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Leadership should be such that it uplifts people.
By imposing restrictions on using certain languages, the leader is imposing control and will also isolate people from other states.
This is not good.
By bringing in religion, caste, language into politics, they create chaos instead of focusing on upliftment and development.
It's a game to stay in power. It's not good.
There are more pressing issues that need immediate attention than caste, religion, superstition and language
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u/AzureAD Nov 07 '25
The very reason this is even an issue is because politicians don’t want people to get involved with issues that actually matter. Despite OPs drivel, English already does a fine job of keeping the disparate regions of India united. And it’s a great language cause it enabled most Indians to explore a larger portion of the whole world !
There is no need to to bring this nonsense about
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u/Melodic-Lab2710 Nov 09 '25
This people don't want to learn one language but except the governor to speak in what not 100 languages of this country..no doubt the British ruled for 300 years and left their language to be national language
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u/norsefenrir8 Nov 07 '25
Same old language based hate politics model. It has worked wonders in many states in India, specially those states where religion based hate model doesn't work.
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u/IamSam1103 Nov 07 '25
All this unnecessary bullshit can be prevented by just having translators that translate government officials and their speech to the respective regional language live.
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u/Eshu25 The Rebel🐉 Nov 07 '25
The problem is hindi speakers don't want to learn other languages , also declaring it as national language will give north Indians an unfair advantage, you will have to give almost 70% reservation to compensate for it , will you not opposse it ?
Also why aren't funds allocated to local languages ? Sanskrit gets allocated 2000 crores but hardly any funds for local languages?
In some states hindi is as foreign as english
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u/logical_thinker_1 Nov 07 '25
The governor is right as business of the government can be conducted any of its official languages. It's your job to learn.
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u/D1RKN1TUR3 Nov 07 '25
Then should the vice president speak in Tamil in house now ?
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u/crazybudweisernoob Nov 07 '25
Are you suggesting that it should be the responsibility of elected representatives of a state's legislative assembly to learn Hindi so that they can speak with a (more often than not) non-local governor in order to get business done with the central govt? If this isn't an imposition then what is? Don't you find it contradictory that the country is moving towards "majority wins" but when the majority of a state demands that discussions be held in their assembly in a certain language, a singular entity i.e. the central govt/President's representative and their language choices must prevail? The fact that we're still squabbling over which language to speak in within each state in this diverse as fuck country, and can't even find room to arrive at a negotiated middle ground is an absolute travesty! And people cry that national unity and integration is of utmost importance... what a joke
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u/Visual-Maximum-8117 Nov 07 '25
A person who is so uneducated that he or she can't even speak in English, should not be a governor.
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u/izzatti Nov 07 '25
English should be encouraged.
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u/izzatti Nov 07 '25
Hinthi is the most spoken does not mean it's not foreign to us. In the NE most people speak Tibeto-Burman languages which is a completely different family than your Indo-Aryan language. Why should Hinthi speakers have an advantage over me if we are equal citizens? Just because there are a lot of panipuri sellers who only know how to migrate to other states does not mean their language should be the national language.
Also Hinthi is not the national language. It's an official language along with English.
Countries like Singapore adopted English and it was what caused them to develop. India will only develop if we adopt English. Let the panipuri walas start learning English just like the rest of us.
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u/Darth_Saber07 Nov 07 '25
Not really, people tend to learn better in native languages. Also having an identity is better. Like Japan and Germany and French.
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u/izzatti Nov 07 '25
People tend to learn better in native languages but Hinthi is more foreign to NE tribes than English and Indian govt cannot provide study materials in the native language of all the tribes. Japan, Germany and France are developed countries, they're not panipuri sellers like us. Countries like Singapore rose because of the adoption of English.
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u/ManofTheNightsWatch Nov 07 '25
National linguistic Identity doesn't come for free. It comes at the cost of killing other languages.
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u/ManofTheNightsWatch Nov 07 '25
That's basically saying indirectly that that people of the nation should slowly kill their local languages because they are not the most popular. 3 language policy kills local languages.
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u/Darth_Saber07 Nov 07 '25
So English isn’t killing local languages?
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Nov 07 '25
No, except the uber rich, most people speak their native language in their homes and local areas.
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u/Eshu25 The Rebel🐉 Nov 07 '25
The problem is hindi speakers don't want to learn other languages , also declaring it as national language will give north Indians an unfair advantage, you will have to give almost 70% reservation to compensate for it , will you not opposse it ?
Also why aren't funds allocated to local languages ? Sanskrit gets allocated 2000 crores but hardly any funds for local languages?
In some states hindi is as foreign as english
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u/Sindhupax Nov 11 '25
The white Christian financiers are easily outplaying the Indians. No indigenous single language for administration means delays and isolation. Divide and conquer is best when local idiots to work against their own interests and national unity.
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u/Happy_Independent620 Nov 07 '25
those who fight who fight they will not speak this language or that language they are fools and hypocrits when you are visiting other places where your language is not spoken its your duty your compulsion to understand that language not theirs and yet these hypocrits use slave language English to communicate and not speaking their native languages when giving speech .See the people of china and japan they speak their native language china have different dialects problem yet they overcome their problem by understanding each other india should do the same so its your duty to understand the place language where you are going or use the common language of whole that they both party understand
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u/harj-london Nov 07 '25
Hindi is made language. Can't use it for IT or medicine. Indian was created as one countries by British with English. If you don't like it Indian need to broken up into it old Kingdom before the British. The South Indian agreed to only be part of India if their national language would be English, not Hindi. Look how advanced they have become in comparison to the Hindi speaking belt, most back would uneducated only speak one language with very little civic sense or understanding of globe issue.
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u/shamen_uk Nov 07 '25 edited Nov 07 '25
English is the common language already.
Doesn't make any sense. English as a "slave" language, so they should speak Hindi?
Do you know the origin of Hindi? It's a language introduced by the Islamic/Persian rulers of India during their empires, mixing Persian with Sanskrit. It is also a "slave" language as it was the language of the Islamic Empires ruling the Hindus. I'll say it again, Hindi and Urdu are languages introduced by invading Muslims. If you want an indigenous North Indian language that is Sanskrit. But none of you speak that anymore, so you instead speak an Islamic "slave" origin language.
The other languages that these people are fighting to protect are often indigenous languages of India, as old as Sanskrit (or in Tamil's case likely older).
What makes it even more funny, is that many of the people who fight to impose Hindi are Hindutva. They are fighting to impose a Muslim empire language. Simply because it's the only language they know.
English is no more a "slave" language than Hindi. For other populations, English is a more useful international language. And stops it feeling like they are having another culture imposed on them via language. So let people speak English. If you want to impose a true language of India, at least let it be Sanskrit or Tamil.
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u/Eshu25 The Rebel🐉 Nov 07 '25
India is not homogeneous like china and japan , china has 97% han chinese ( also it has autonomous regions ) and japan has 98% japanese population, it won't work in India , also learning how to treat minorities from china is not a good thought
The problem is hindi speakers don't want to learn other languages , also declaring it as national language will give north Indians an unfair advantage, you will have to give almost 70% reservation to compensate for it , will you not opposse it ?
Also why aren't funds allocated to local languages ? Sanskrit gets allocated 2000 crores but hardly any funds for local languages?
In some states hindi is as foreign as english
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u/ProfessionMoney9624 Nov 07 '25
India should create a new language having extracts from all of our languages
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u/Eshu25 The Rebel🐉 Nov 07 '25
Won't work the language should have literature, history and culture and professionals to understand the language
People have tried this in many countries and have failed , though there is a script which was made by indian researchers which have pronounciation for all indian languages but again nobody knows about it
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u/ProfessionMoney9624 Nov 07 '25
but it doesn't have to be a completely new language though? one only for communication ik it is not prudential, but still
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u/Writers_Kink Nov 09 '25
Toh apna local language loh naa. Why use english?
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u/Loud-Operation-9732 Nov 10 '25
Because English is both the lingua franca of India and of the world.
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