r/CriticalThinkingIndia • u/Oppyhead • Jan 23 '26
Ask CTI Is there anything in India he isn’t involved in anymore?
A joint venture comprising Adani, Ashoka Buildcon and Akshaya has secured a ₹1,816 crore contract from the Brihan mumbai Municipal Corporation for Package III of the Mithi River Development and Pollution Control Project. The scope covers the river stretch from CST Bridge in Kurla to the Mahim Causeway, including the Vakola River.
The project will be executed under a design, build, and operate model, with a construction timeline of around four years, followed by ten years of operation and maintenance. Major components include intercepting polluted inflows, building pumping stations and transfer sewers, river training works, service roads, and retaining structures.
This intervention aligns with Mumbai’s larger urban renewal plans, including the Dharavi Redevelopment Project. Its primary objectives are flood mitigation, improved water quality and enhancing the livability and redevelopment potential of surrounding areas.
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u/Haunting_Display2454 Jan 23 '26
Adani is India, India is Adani..
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u/Interesting_Hat_338 Jan 23 '26
Mr. Ambani is looking for you after this statement of yours 😂😂😂
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u/Disastrous_Joke5898 Jan 23 '26
Theyre both Gujaratis so he's fine w it.
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u/Haunting_Display2454 Jan 23 '26
Or may be he has just accepted his fate..and trying to dry his tears with silver lined hankerchief...!!
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u/simpleliving100 Jan 23 '26 edited Jan 23 '26
Ambani usually doesn't get involved in such infrastructure projects whose repayment is a long process.
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u/Interesting_Hat_338 Jan 23 '26
He has multiple 10 -15 -20 year deals signed with many countries.. Also I meant, Mr Ambani is offended by the comment. The country belongs to him more than it does to Mr.Adani
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u/0ompa1o0mpa Jan 23 '26
Un dono ne dhanda 50:50 baat liya hai, to usko koi problem nahi honi chahiye.
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u/mother_love- Jan 23 '26
He wants to become tata
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u/n0noob Jan 23 '26
He can never be Tata. He just has a typical Gujarati business mindset. Tata had ethics.
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u/Mentaikopastalover Jan 23 '26
I swear, i read in the UPSC sub someone preaching where are the days of "Study hard to earn hard".
I wonder what kind of studious kid this Adani is😂
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u/batmanxgin Jan 23 '26
1000 crore in pocket 500 back to bjpee and remaining finds ka shoddy work but nobody will bat an eye
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u/Negative-Slip5216 Jan 23 '26
If you bat an eye you are anti nationals, but that 1800 cr funds is our GST collections and Tax on petrol and TDS and surcharge And Income tax.
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u/CardiologistIll8485 Jan 23 '26
Is there anyone who can do it in less? If yes then why is he not bidding?
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u/curious_mindquest Jan 23 '26
So the thing about tenders is that the government has certain criterias or requirements that need to be met. They make these criterias such that only adani can meet them. So the lowest bidder might not be adani, but there's something on adanis tender which is a must not being provided by the lowest bidder.
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u/Training-Quit9705 Jan 23 '26
oh yeas the great tender to make Kerala port since 1970s that made companies bankrupt Kerala islamic and finally Adani came and made it in couple of years. It is infrastructure giant in India it will do infrastructure development and project when no one does . Plus this is corporate. Before people want to topple Adani from ceo or chairman the Board of Directors always got an eye or chance to overthrow him. There is no money going to abJP
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u/Anywhere_Warm Jan 23 '26
I don’t know about any other project but one of the project i know personally is the solar power project in the barren tough terrain of desert. No company wanted to develop and invest in that infrastructure but Adani took it and is doing very good
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u/CardiologistIll8485 Jan 23 '26
They make these criterias such that only adani can meet them.
If this is true then every other company will form a board to fight against the government. The government will face lawsuits which it can't afford as the judiciary isn't under them. Every other company will gang up on Adani and bring him down. Hell, every other company will donate to other political parties to overthrow the current government.
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u/seriaI_chiller Jan 23 '26
Instead of saying this you could have said "Modi ji ne kiya hoga to kuch soch smjh kr hi kiya hoga" 😇
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u/Mr_vort3x The Curious One🐟 Jan 23 '26
As long as the company can get the job done tbh
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u/REDperv-2802 Jan 23 '26
Yupp, he’ll get the job done just that 1/3rd of the money in his pocket, 1/3rd to bjp’s pocket and 1/10th used for the project
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u/JholBabaKoLathMaro Jan 23 '26
Yes Mumbai was jungle before 2014 noone was working...
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u/ramen_driver Jan 23 '26
Yes, no one was working tbh. I grew up there, have a house there and left when I was 27. In school, I used to go for quiz competitions at a nature park on the banks of the Mithi and every year despite our commitment and pledge to be environmentally conscious, not once did anything happen.
Government apathy, the people, the politicians and a whole lot of other factors are in play here. If corruption can clean a river, then so be it.
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u/TryJolly1473 Jan 23 '26
Better than no job done at all.
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u/REDperv-2802 Jan 23 '26
Yeah sure, its not like we’ve seen so many bridges and tankers collapse due to “Better than no job done”
Is this really “Critical thinking sub”?
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u/Cress-Used Jan 23 '26
Has any bridge or tanker collapse made by Adani or any of his company?
I am just asking for my knowledge, i have not read much into this.
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u/nowneat Jan 23 '26
Considering 2000Cr+ has been spent and nothing has been done, I prefer they give it to someone who can actually get it done. Corruption is a given all across India, at least the work should be done.
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u/North_Ad_9999 Jan 23 '26
Woh saaf kar bhi denge toh apne desh walo ko wapas ganda karne se kaise rokoge 🤦🏻
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u/gyanchand_baba Jan 23 '26
For your kind info, this company got ganga cleaning project and results are still awaited
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u/Jeetu_From_Videoconn Jan 23 '26
This is what the govt is banking on. Ppl are so fed up with incompetence ki ab koi bhi kar le, bass thik se kar le.
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u/Dean_46 Jan 23 '26
Adani has won most of their recent projects in opposition run states, or abroad.
In this particular contract, the Adani led consortium, outbid 2 other strong contenders.
The bid was invited, after the BMC tried for 15 years (and spent 2000 cr) to do the same thing and failed - they started work on this after the flooding of 2005.
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u/Suspicious_Waltz1393 Jan 23 '26
If he does get it done and puts infrastructure to prevent getting dirty again , it will worth it.
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u/Sea-Recover-6717 Jan 23 '26
You know the difference between capitalism in the USA vs India? In USA there's 1-2 giant corpos in tech, 1-2 successful startups in say some research field X, some in clearing river bodies such as these. All in all very inviting to new to startups and innovations. Companies actually innovate and made the USA for what it is
While in india, there's 2 guys at the top controlling the food you eat, road you walk on, building you live on, city you live in, media you consume, real estate agents you buy properties through, big govt contracts, railways, transport, vehicle manufacturing, laws, policies, rivers, now even fucking mountains.
With no labour laws, no quality assurance. They are at the top by not innovating shit and providing shit to the world but just by capitalising on the mere scale of cheap labour that's available to be exploited.
They are at the top for tech and Innovation, ours are at the top for just capitalising on natural resources and exploiting the whole country's population while holding hands with the govt.
TCS is not innovative, TCS just has sheep to fill in the barn at 10x less rate than sheep from any other part of the world
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u/Redosaurous Jan 23 '26 edited Jan 23 '26
If they can really clean the river, it’s a great initiative.
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Jan 23 '26
Yeah, nothing to see here folks. No cronyism or corruption /s
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u/Redosaurous Jan 23 '26
Alright Mr.Saint, please go ahead apply for a tender and clean it. Since you have insane capital, feeding thousands of families and abundant resources at your disposal. Please help us out! Your wisdom and capabilities will definitely help our country grow. Awaiting your instant action 😝 /s
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u/Intelligent-pass85 Jan 23 '26
If ppl can follow civics sense then this could have been avoided.
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Jan 23 '26
If the government provided proper garbage disposal then this could’ve been avoided. Stop blaming common people for the failures of government bootlicker.
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u/silent_riser Jan 23 '26
It's a collective responsibility of government and citizens. There are over-bridge but people still cross railway track. There are street but still people drive bike on footpath.
It's a collective responsibility. Citizens have more power than government. We choose government based on our liking but we never cross question. Even we question we question on social media or reddit.
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Jan 23 '26
Tell us details how anyone got this project.. what was the process.. dont give half info.. which govt was controlling bmc that time? Use brain then preach
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u/mistu4u Jan 23 '26
He'll be involved in everything doing work for 1000 which can be done in 100 and then giving some part of it back by media loyalty and donations to a particular party
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u/Quick-Explanation-33 Jan 23 '26 edited Jan 23 '26
Contracts are allotted through a bidding process
Oh sorry so critical thinking is only name of this subreddit
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u/Sad-Armadillo-8889 Jan 23 '26
Get your own Company to do the job which he is doing. He has been doing job given to him on the deadline and before deadline also.
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u/bacan9 Jan 23 '26
Congress only knows how to point fingers. They were in power for 50-60 years and couldnt do it. Now that someone is doing it, they are crying for attention
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u/Cantdigestmilk Jan 23 '26
If he gets the job done, what's the problem? It's a proven fact that private participation increases efficiency and reduces cost. L&T does that in most of the infra work.
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u/bail_gadi Jan 23 '26
Read about South Korean chaebols and their effects on the country's socioeconomics.
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u/REDperv-2802 Jan 23 '26
Check the raffale deal
Private participation can only reduce cost when government does not take BRIBE from them
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u/MoronSlayer_786Lolwa Jan 23 '26
Can someone else do it?
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u/JholBabaKoLathMaro Jan 23 '26
How can anyone else do, Mumbai didn't exist before 2014, wait Earth itself didn't exist before 2014...
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u/MoronSlayer_786Lolwa Jan 23 '26
Wait, nobody cared before 2014.
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u/JholBabaKoLathMaro Jan 23 '26
Sure you had to or father had to swim in gutter to go to office and come back...
Before 2014 on one unfortunate and evil rape Delhi went on andolan
then 2014 happened and Rapists were garlanded, the public taking took out march for the release of rapists and killers ...
Yes we have changed and going back to our roots ...rather human roots of being monkey 🐒
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u/Possible-Ad-5857 Jan 23 '26
Will they be allowed to try even if they want to?
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u/MoronSlayer_786Lolwa Jan 23 '26
I am pretty sure any such project happens via government tenders and there’s a proper process.
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u/Level_Regret_108 Jan 23 '26
Why don't you go bid lower than adani group for the next project?
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u/iClipsse Jan 23 '26
Do you think Adani won it in bidding
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u/Level_Regret_108 Jan 23 '26
That's how tenders work. The corruption only works in disclosing what your competitor is bidding.
I wonder how these people with no sense of how the real world works come out here becoming political experts
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u/iClipsse Jan 23 '26
I've been in contract business for 10 years so don't teach me how tenders work. Acting like you're some sort of expert, you're not, just a brainwashed it cell guy it seems You don't even know about the backdoor deals and huge donations he's giving to the party. The tender is just a process and front on how it works but the deal is already closed even before the actual tender begins, if you know you know. Acting like everything goes as per process on pen and paper when in reality corruption is running rampant. Now don't come asking for proof next
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u/Level_Regret_108 Jan 23 '26
They are corrupt. But you can bid 30 rupees for 100 Cr project and they are obligated to give it to you... You can go to court otherwise
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u/iClipsse Jan 23 '26
Nobody's talking about suicidal underbidding here. We're talking about how the system gets massaged BEFORE bids even drop so that when the "lowest" one comes in, it's from the guy who's already set up to win. For this Mithi Package 3 (₹1700 cr-ish):
Tender bounced around for years (cancelled twice since 2023, reissued post-2025 floods with scope gutted—no promenade, flood gates down from 25 to 18, etc.) to make it doable only for mega-players with fat balance sheets and JVs.
Pre-bid, they jacked the pump manufacturer turnover req from ₹50 cr to ₹210 cr—straight violation of CVC rules that say you can't tighten eligibility AFTER publishing to squeeze out competition. Congress's Sachin Sawant called it out with docs and letters, saying it's blatant to hand it to a "BJP-close industrialist." BMC's excuse? "Good faith" because pumps worth ₹700 cr sub-part... but Sawant roasted that as BS since earlier versions of the same tender stuck to ₹50 cr.
Final three in the ring: Adani JV (Adani Road Transport + Ashoka + Aakshya), HCC, and Afcons. Adani's initial quote? 7.7% ABOVE BMC's base estimate. Negotiated to 7.1% above—still over budget, not some magical underbid. The others were apparently "well above" too, so yeah, a contest... but after all the pre-bid rigging and thinning, surprise, Adani edges it.
Point is, no one's saying bid 30 bucks and sue. It's that the backend tweaks (delays, scope cuts, rule bends) create a playground where only one conglomerate can consistently show up with the "lowest" realistic bid. Coincidence? Every damn time? Nah, bro.
If it was as simple as "bid low or court," why doesn't every small contractor do it and win airports, Dharavi, rivers? Because the field's already cleared for the favorites.
(Links for the curious: TOI on the award and bids https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/adani-group-now-bags-bid-for-1-7k-cr-mithi-river-rejuvenation-project/articleshow/125618938.cms
Indian Express on the CVC pump turnover fuckery https://indianexpress.com/article/mumbai/cong-leader-alleges-violation-of-central-vigilance-commission-guidelines-in-mithi-river-tender-10286124)→ More replies (1)→ More replies (16)2
u/AarXsh Jan 23 '26
I'd say there's a difference between 10 crore projects involved with local governance bodies and politics opposed to a 2000 crore projects. No denying the system is rigged, but for such huge projects I'd say that it wouldn't happen at the scale that it otherwise happens. Though I don't know much about this so only you can tell me for sure.
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u/Humble_Human666 Jan 23 '26
Bro has too much in his hand and hope he gives good service and cleans the river
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u/DeJuris Jan 23 '26
Governments float a tender, adani fills it and quotes the best price for them. Should the government take a financial hit just to give the appearance that adani isn't everywhere?
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u/Wise_Finish6703 Jan 26 '26
This is the pattern that I’ve seen so far 1. Make weak policies 2. Resulting in bad environment for the public 3. Blame the past government for not doing anything 4. Don’t do anything to improve either 5. Make public sector weaker 6. Give contracts to private sector by saying that public sector is weak and can’t handle stuff 7. Give contracts to private sector 8. Tell people you solved the problem and also get donations from the private sector 9. Increase taxes to support these contracts because private companies run on profits, hence are much expensive than public companies 10. All the wealth accumulates with a few individuals who can now control every aspect of your life, making the laws and constitution obsolete
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u/amolpandit Jan 23 '26
Free country. Anyone can apply for and win contract.
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u/Tomthegoatboi Jan 23 '26
Yeah being an online activist using dad's Wi-Fi, that role is reserved for you
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u/REDperv-2802 Jan 23 '26
Like being a defender of corrupt people is a role for you?
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u/St_ElmosFire Jan 23 '26
Isn't there a tender process for these things? Why didn't any other company show interest/outbid Adani?
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u/Key_Journalist_2898 Jan 23 '26
BMC couldn't do it. Do you want to do this project?? Seating in sofa and criticising everything these businessman are doing
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u/iceb3rg3r Jan 23 '26
Hello IT cell
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u/ok_olive_02 Jan 23 '26
No, he is right. See things which require a good amount of man power, resources, equipment etc. is better to outsource. Otherwise, bmc has to invest in a lot of equipment, hire a lot of people and then their salary etc.. For the same reason, IT companies get projects from other countries, For the same reason, you call someone else to build your house... Even though you can hire them for 10 years, give them salary but you don't do it because your home will be finished in 1 year and then you have to bear all equipment cost, labour for another 9 years. You cannot just fire people. And the guy you will give your home project will also be profitable because he has to make his earnings too
I agree, 1,800 crore is too much, so until we get the full contract clauses I cannot say. It could be a 10 year contract..
So, if you try to think logically, it is best way to get the task done however I am skeptical about the amount. Even though if it is for 10 years, 1,800 crore is almost 150 crore per year. Way too high.
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u/iceb3rg3r Jan 23 '26
I don’t trust a single word from accounts that are 2 months old and hide their post and comments. Good try, IT Cell.
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u/Cool_Decision_8873 Jan 23 '26
One of the few nationalist businessman in India ❤️
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u/Rough_String_3185 Jan 23 '26
It's called crony capitalism. Not new to Asia as a continent. India is following the same playbook as other East Asian countries. Especially South Korea
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Jan 23 '26
Idk why people bitch about adani & ambani. Atleast they give something back to the nation. Their projects are well planned and durable.
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u/Electrical-Dog-4558 Jan 23 '26
Why people of mumbai are not holding accountable towards mumbai nagar palika. Or maharashtra govt, when comes to language they sout like hell now a gujrati shows them mirror how u are so stupid that u even cannot keep ur city clean or river I came here to do this and after he will show his supermecy over the people of mumbai this they can accept.
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u/fintrent_litho Jan 23 '26
Because "Adani - Hum karke dikhate hain". ROI Modi pe invest karne ka bohot jyada mila hai usey. But he actually delivers and we need that as a nation.
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u/InbetweenTwoThighs Jan 23 '26
Honestly, no matter how much corrupted, bureaucratic these deals are, the fact is, Adani has always delivered. And this amount for such a big task seems okay because cleaning & upgrading Mithi river is not an easy task despite this coming under the scope of BMC they haven’t been able to do anything because of encroachment on the river banks throughout the city. Adani is good at kicking people off the land, so I hope that’s the goal here.
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u/LeastBranch7390 Jan 23 '26
First of all I want to see that poor river get cleaned asap...will think about this later! And I expect private players to do better than fckin babus anyday.
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u/playcap0 Jan 23 '26
Looking at comments the biggest problem is people are okay with this corruption and crony capatlism. They can't think how it will destroy india in coming generations. Very sad. It's like they don't care what happens to their own children in future.
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u/ShindemoShindaAtomo Jan 23 '26
Mithi river is beyond repair. Not sure how this can reverse the damage
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u/Tatti-Toe Jan 23 '26
We should put this on board in every Airport Welcome to the Private Property of Adani, "India"
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u/DryBox626 Jan 23 '26
If the adani group cleans it & make the infra to stop further damage, then no issue though after that we should ask for fair contract giving
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u/VermicelliWild8840 Jan 23 '26
Sometimes I thank god that India is not so rich in natural resources. Don’t know what all they would have done to acquire and exploit. One must study what they have done in Jharkhand.
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u/RecognitionBright583 Jan 23 '26
He is PM of Ind why wouldn't he be involved. Man you guys are dumb as rock .
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u/Double_Version_3174 Jan 23 '26
Sometimes I really wish that rahul gandhi stops giving stupid statements like revocation of article 371, 100 percent reservation etc so that we can vote for him
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u/Longjumping-Skin-835 Jan 23 '26
Doesn't matter if govt agencies are inefficient.. railway stations aur airpods delhi PPP OR Prioritised Privatisation glt thodi h
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u/psychicsoul123 Jan 23 '26
I think this is better than giving to a no-name contractor who will do an absolutely shoddy job- the way this was done through that dino morea linked firm. Big guys like adani, l&t will do a decent job given that they an image to maintain in front of international/foreign investors.
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u/Desperate-Contract73 Jan 23 '26
First clean the river, than buy the land around it. Build luxury flats and sell with river view for premium.
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u/nsg_1400 Jan 23 '26
At any given point, there are thousands of projects going on at every scale. A few big ones go to Adani, you all start crying. There is no rationality in a sub called "critical thinking"
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u/FederalLook5060 Jan 23 '26
Why facare? we know the river willl not be cleaned why dont theysimply hand over the money to adani directly?
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Jan 23 '26
Adani and Ambani are like Netflix and Prime Video. They don’t compete with each other. . They compete with your sleep and for your screen time. In this case they are competing with government and civic bodies for your tax money. We are the cash cow that keeps giving.
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u/3rroR431 Jan 23 '26
Earlier they used to hide it. Now they don't even take an effort to hide it. That's what scares me the most. They know nothing can be done. Pure mockery
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u/IHaveSeenItAlready Jan 23 '26
Btw.. about 5000 crs have been spent on cleaning this river in the last two decades. If you see the the state of the river over the last 2 decades you'll realise that not a penny has been spent on doing the actual work. 2 decades, different authorities, different governments, different contractors but one common thing. Corruption!
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u/South-Drummer-5894 Jan 23 '26
Or kya he option hain, this wouldn’t have happened but thanks to dehatis of our country to make everything dirty
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u/Ecstatic_Code_9200 Jan 23 '26
Khud ki to aukat hai nahi jo karte hai unko karne nahi dete paj€€ta for reason aese hi nahi bulate tum bhutiyo ko
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u/theblipman Jan 23 '26
Does he can clean nala of whole country no so start your self a company instead of completing
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u/fightwallah Jan 23 '26
At this point, I'm just happy someone is taking this up. Adani ke account mein directly tax bharna hai kya ab se? Kaam karega toh woh bhi chalega
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u/Vivid_Yesterday_745 Jan 23 '26
When microsoft does that shit in US.. everybody is like cheersss. When Adani does that.. everyone be like boooo 😂
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Jan 23 '26
This country is gonna go nowhere lol. No vitality in its citizens. No fighting spirit. No wonder the foreign conquerors subjugated us so easily.
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u/Swimming-Delivery427 Jan 23 '26
Well.. Lets take a contrarian viewpoint. Through all the previous governments efforts, Mithi is now pristine beautiful river, especially near Mahim/BKC area. Mr. Adani is just here to milk taxpayers money? or should we really validate and point fingers at the work done. Why dont we look at the root cause of issues than be pricks all the time
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u/AlmasAhmedMulla Jan 23 '26
Ganda bhi unki factories aur buildings karenge, saaf bhi wo hi karenge. Same hai yeh 2 october ko dustbin se kachra bahar feko, brand new gucci ki jhaadu se do fatke lagao, photo khichao, 5 saal secure.
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u/istarboyi Jan 23 '26
3 companies, its a joint venture. Itni gandagi hai to saaf karne do bhai kisiko🤣🤣
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u/This_Dragonfly_2679 Jan 23 '26
Winning and being handed over in a platter is completely different.
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u/Rastatuollie Editable User Flair Jan 23 '26
Atleast he is trying. U might hate him. But he does more than the govt.
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