r/DJs • u/Educational_Wolf1575 • 16d ago
Need advice
Hello people. I am not sure if this is the right subreddit for this post/question but:
I was DJing at this club past week and I was recording my set with a 360 camera. I took out some clips and edited a crowd reaction one, from a random guy who reacted really excited for a particular song (It was his tune by the reaction).
It was a pretty nice clip and I posted it on Instagram.
The vid itself got some traction (25-26k views in 24 hours), and then this guy got my number somehow, called me and asked me to take down the video due to his personal issues of his image in front of the internet..
Has anyone ever had a situation like this?
How do I proceed?
How can I ‘protect’ my future content in this format?
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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u/maxx0rNL 16d ago
Just delete it
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u/Bohica55 16d ago
Fuck that ass hat. He was in public, no expectation of privacy. Post it everywhere. Try to make it viral.
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u/ziddyzoo House 16d ago
a nightclub is not “in public”.
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u/Bohica55 16d ago
Yes it is dipshit. Don’t expect privacy anywhere but your bathroom.
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u/Nachtraaf This will make a fine addition to my collection! 13d ago
I'm giving you a warning. Behave yourself.
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u/ziddyzoo House 16d ago edited 16d ago
Standing on a public street is public. With no expectation of privacy.
A nightclub is a private venue, which you have chosen to enter and where vastly different contracts covenants rules and expectations may be applied by the club owner. These may range from “no cameras whatsoever allowed” to “you consent by entering this club to be posted as our marketing content” in the fine print of your ticket.
This is one of the many things that sets apart a private establishment from the public street, dipshit.
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u/Exidose 16d ago
I had a very similar experience about a week ago, i record all my sets at the club using a 360 cam, and a girl reacted nice way to a word play i did, so i posted it and obvs i zoomed in on her at some point to highlight her reaction, and uploaded it, it was one of my best performing videos, got like 5k views in about a day, she asked me to take it down, but i always said if i posted a video and it was focusing on someone and they asked me to take it down that i would, so i just re-edited the video and didn't focus in on her and posted it again and obviously it got like 600 views.. lmao. oh well.
I would take it down and just post the video again but not focusing on the person, just the crowd in general instead.
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u/jimmer109 16d ago
This is the way. OP still got all those views. Being cordial and delete it will not make those people un-see it.
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u/scoutermike 🔊 Bass House 🔊 16d ago
Please do not post videos of other people to the internet without their permission.
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u/peterthedj 16d ago
You might want to check with a lawyer on this one, and even though I am NAL, they would probably advise you to delete the video out of caution. Even if the person can't go after you legally, they have your number and who knows what else they've been able to dig up on you.
There's also the legal aspect -- the club's customers technically haven't given you their permission to use their likenesses to promote your brand or your business as a DJ. Not unless there was a sign at the door with legalese to advise them that the club and/or DJ could be taking photos/videos at any time, and by choosing to enter the club, people are hereby giving their express permission for their likeness to be distributed in any format for perpetuity.
If the facial reaction was the focal point of the video, too bad.
But if the video would still be "post-worthy" with a little blurring (so people can't be identified), maybe do that and repost it.
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u/Bipedal_Giraffe_2187 16d ago
There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a bar, it’s considered a public space.
If you want to give people notice (as is generally required of filming for commercial purposes) you could post a sign near the booth. Generally with language along these lines, you might want to check with the club owner/manager before posting anything though, because it could scare off customers who might expect more privacy:
“NOTICE: PHOTOGRAPHY AND FILMING IN PROGRESS By entering this area, you acknowledge that you are entering a space where photography, audio, and video recording may occur. Your entry and presence on the premises constitute your consent to be photographed, filmed, and/or otherwise recorded, and to the perpetual use of your appearance, voice, and name in any and all media without compensation or credit. This material may be used for [organization name] news, webcasts, promotional purposes, and social media. If you do not wish to be subject to these terms, please do not enter this area.” Not legal advice, but I work in commercial film production & we always have to post notices.
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u/cats_r_better 16d ago
how do you proceed? you take down the video of a stranger you posted on the internet when they asked you to.
why is this a question?
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u/ryanjblair 16d ago
One other user made a good point that if you focused on the individual I would take it down if they asked.
But if it was just of the crowd generally…. Bars/clubs are public spaces. There should be no expectation of privacy unless the venues already have a strict no filming policy (though that generally doesn’t apply to performers).
If it was the crowd in general I honestly probably wouldn’t take it down.
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u/CygnusEpsilon 16d ago
This is why people don't dance and have fun anymore. There's always this constant threat of being filmed without permission and posted on some fuckwit's social media for clout. It's bad enough when it's done by other punters, but the fucking DJ too?! No, just no!
And don't come crying to me that "bUt iT's a pUbLic sPaCe". Fuck right off! It's creepy and rude to film somebody without permission when they go to the grocery store, public park or the goddamn dentist. Why the hell would a nightclub be any different?
Just have people have fun. Don't bother them with your social media bullshit. Your perpetual need for clout and external validation is not their problem.
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u/6lagigesKlopapier 14d ago
It's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. I'd say just out of human decency - take it down. And if people in your videos complain in the future and want them taken down - take them down. The odds are that such a video wouldn't have any consequences on their personal life and that they are just being annoying. But you don't know that.
Whether it is ok to film people depends on the event. There are certainly parties (e.g. fetish parties etc) where attendance should be confidential. Here you should definitely talk to venue and/or promoter first. However, other than that... Content has gotten so important, everybody films their gigs nowadays.
Personally, if I'm attending in the crowd I'm not a fan of filming and if I see a camera pointed at me I won't dance freely. However, If I find myself in a festival after movie and look cute I'm happy.
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u/righthandofdog Pop punk, hot funk, disco and prog house junk 16d ago
just edit the video with his reaction and drop a big red circle over him and subtitle it with "went too hard" of whatever fits your vibe.
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u/ziddyzoo House 16d ago
What country are you in, privacy and related obligations change significantly depending on jurisdiction.
But broadly: what signage is up at the entrances of the club and/or on the ticketing for the night that discloses to people they are entering subject to expectations of filming and for what purposes (eg marketing and promotion) and possible posting. That is where you establish the consent to being filmed and posted online. And the venue potentially should have an opt out zone, ie part of the club that won’t be filmed.
Regardless, again depending on your jurisdiction, a punter may still have the right to withdraw that consent later and request removal from posted video.
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u/WaterIsGolden 16d ago
Don't record and repost the crowd.
You can use a heavily lit side stage with overt cameras on tripods as an option to attract people who prefer to be recorded. This is not very different from how we used to set up a backdrop with heavy lighting and flashes for people who preferred to have their photos taken in the club. Noone wants someone snapping surprise shots with a creep cam and posting things online.
Place the lights and camera on you and your setup if you plan to post gif videos. Blur the crowd heavily so people can see the crowd size and energy without doxxing people.
Consider that people go out to party so they can behave however they want, which might be the opposite of how they have to behave in their family or professional life. What if the 'random guy' you chose to record had a few drinks or was feeling in a unique way for any other reason that caused him to do something outside his normal character? Not something illegal or harmful grant you - what if he was just hyped and dancing even though he absolutely isn't a person who dances?
Taking videos of unsuspecting club patrons getting loose is as inappropriate as taking videos of unsuspecting diners shoving food into their mouths. People are not asking you to do this.
Of course there is no privacy in a public club. But there is a realistic expectation that the people there will focus on being present, instead of trying to get some clips for The Gram.