r/DenverBroncos • u/logicblender1 • 1d ago
Aqib Talib destroys Ryan Fitzpatrick in defense of Bo Nix
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u/MultiPass21 1d ago
It’s great to see our players, current and former, rallying around their QB.
It’s weird that I read a comment today on our sub from a lad who wants Bo to play poorly the remainder of the year so that’s his 5th year option will be cheaper to pick up.
What is you doin, baby girl?
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u/Unifiedxchaos 1d ago
Thats the same type of dude who wants to make less money so his taxes are cheaper. Some people would cut off their legs so that they can save money on buying pants. It's crazy.
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u/thunder_cats1 Demaryius Thomas 1d ago
Lol. 4-2 after playing 5 of the best teams in the NFL. And, some nephew wants us to tank? Because Fitzpatrick, a journeyman QB who couldn't even stick with the Bills when they were an absolute dumpster fire of a franchise, talks some.post game shit?
Alex smith was 4x the QB Fitz ever was and Smith was 2x the game manger that Bo played as. Jfc.
There are real concerns for this offense and for Bo. He doesn't seem healthy and his confidence does seem jarred. He's still had more success as an NFL QB than Fitz ever had and is only year 3 though.
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u/MileHiSalute 1d ago
Hey now, Fitzpatrick has a six pick game to his name, Bo hasn’t even come close to that
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u/thunder_cats1 Demaryius Thomas 1d ago
Fitz has more picks than starts in the NFL.
He moved around to bad teams could tank for picks, which kept him in the league for 14 years.
That's a disgrace to the QB position.
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u/logicblender1 1d ago
I don't think Bo has played well but this was hilarious. I love Talib, he always has our back.
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u/punjabkingsownersout Garrett Bolles 1d ago
Talib has consistently been the voice of reason. Wish I saw this legend play
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u/A1rizzo 1d ago
It was great, specially against Brady.
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u/Bee_Rye85 GOD BLESS BO NIX 1d ago
I prefer the Crabtree chain snatch game(s) lol
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u/thebigtoebone 1d ago
It was always entertaining. If you haven’t, look up him vs Crabtree that beef was legendary. If I remember right he snatched his chain twice.
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u/punjabkingsownersout Garrett Bolles 1d ago
Isn't that same guy Sherman trash talked
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u/swirldad_dds 1d ago
Yes lol.
Crabtree was a pretty good receiver who was unfortunate enough to be really hated by two HOF level Corners.
It never turned out well for him.
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u/oldmantrusty 1d ago
Why didn’t you?
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u/punjabkingsownersout Garrett Bolles 1d ago
Became football and broncos fan in 2022
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u/Bovine_Joni_Himself Broncos D 1d ago
in 2022? Damn do I respect that. Those were some of the darkest days as Broncos fans since like the early 80s.
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u/punjabkingsownersout Garrett Bolles 1d ago
My first broncos game i saw was Hackett choosing to kick from 65 yards. I didn't fully understand why it was such a bad decision
Now I do
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u/green-chili 1d ago
Neat what made you choose the broncos? Or you from CO
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u/punjabkingsownersout Garrett Bolles 1d ago
I am a denver nuggets fan. After russell Wilson trade all my fellow nuggets fans were so happy and telling me to jump into football. So I did.
That season was ass but one of the best decisions I made
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u/Visual-Floor-7839 1d ago
Chain snatchin! The No Fly Zone was incredible. Some of the most fun I've had watching football
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u/TylerDurden6969 1d ago
If I remember correctly, he snatched some dudes chain right off him during a game (it’s been awhile I could be misremembering).
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u/darbs-face 1d ago
I liked when Talib played in Denver big fan. Bit hard to take a man who shot himself in the leg at a strip club seriously though. Oh and fuck Fitzmagic. Dude was never magical once in his career lol.
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u/NerdyBear73 1d ago
Are the concerns about Bo valid? Absolutely. But if someone bagged that hard on a dude on my rec league ultimate frisbee team - to borrow a line from a great American - my foot would be so far up his ass the water on my knee would quench his thirst.
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u/Ritz7375 23h ago
Aqib is a Bronco for life! Love that dude
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u/CuteMountain6514 23h ago
Absolutely. "We" don't win the Superbowl without his big interceptions that year. Dude never backed down and constantly came up big at critical times. Huge fan.
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u/Ritz7375 23h ago
Absolutely. Bo and the offense are struggling at the moment, and that's ok. We're 4-2 right now, and I have no doubt they'll get things figured out. Go Broncos!
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u/Leather_Network4743 1d ago
Ryan “More Interceptions Than Starts” Fitzpatrick talks about disrespecting the QB position
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u/MultiPass21 1d ago
Yeah but he’s Amazon’s version of Pat McAfee. Engagement bait. Meme-able. Takes his shirt off because [reasons].
Obviously a human who should be taken very seriously.
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u/Abomb91 1d ago
Lol gotta love Aqib Talib man.
Bo has played badly but he's right, Fitzpatrick is a scrub who never played winning football in his life.
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u/gwumpus-lumpus 1d ago
As bad as Bo has been this was my exact reaction to Fitz’s comments
Can’t believe we let Fitz and Dan Orlovsky critique NFL players in any kind of disrespectful way, if Tom Brady wants to say Bo is an insult to the position then fine I’ll accept that. But Bo did more in one game against the bills than Fitz did his entire career
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u/Far_Excitement6140 1d ago
Didn’t Orlovsky go 0-16 one season?
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u/bankskowsky 1d ago
TIL Orlovsky was a QB.
I legit thought he was a washed former kicker.
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u/rossta410r Shannon Sharpe 1d ago
I've seen some pretty disgustingly bad games from Ryan Fitzpatrick. Much worse than I saw by either QB last night. Orlovsky is the worst situational QB in the history of the game.
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u/Kuros_Of_Sindarin 1d ago
Exactly. Fair criticism is ok but this disrespectful shit is just trash.
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u/GrogRedLub4242 1d ago
exactly: Bo's 1st season as pro: playoffs. Bo's 2nd season as pro: playoffs.
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u/Wise_Carrot4857 1d ago
THIS. Like I feel like you have to earn the right to say that shit. Lmao
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u/Misterrbisterr 1d ago
It's just talking heads trying to make headlines, the media doesn't care that the whole offence is bad, they just want to single out the mid qb who's always been mid as if he's the worst for not making miracles with a garbage supporting cast.
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u/themagicalcake 1d ago
he outplayed josh allen in the playoffs and then cant buy a first down this week. this is definitely a regression
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u/Aro00oo 1d ago
Idk i dont think ad hominem is a good response to what's clear to everyone watching the game: Bo's not playing well and analysts and former players are right to critique him, that's their job now.
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u/punjabkingsownersout Garrett Bolles 1d ago
Critique is different to attacks
If russ said the same thing everyone would clown on him
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u/swirldad_dds 1d ago
Russ wouldn't say that though. Even with the beef he has with us.
Also, even washed Russ was still better than Fitz at his best. So at least coming from him it would mean something.
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u/orangefrido18 DT 1d ago
The weird thing is bo played very well the first half. He didn't play well the 2nd half. I know there's been talk about his play this year, but he's hardly the first quarterback to have one good and one bad half. There were probably multiple quarterbacks who did that last week. Bo does it himself most weeks, just the inverse with the 2nd half being the good one.
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u/separeaude DT 1d ago
Ad hominem is a personal attack that’s inappropriate when we’re talking arguments not based upon personal qualifications. What Fitzpatrick did was “I was an NFL QB for years so I can say what I see is disrespectful…”
In which case his qualifications are absolutely up for debate.
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u/rossta410r Shannon Sharpe 1d ago
Ryan Fitzpatrick started the ad hominem. Dude lives in a glass mansion and is throwing stones.
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u/johnnynutman Broncos 1d ago
Yeah surprised this didn’t come up more at the time, especially from broncos fans
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u/712Jefferson 1d ago
Agree, it's almost always the scrub QBs that yap the loudest to get attention. Those that actually had success are typically much more humble in the media.
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u/onewonyuan 1d ago
By that logic, zero people in this sub are allowed to critique and/or have opinions on the NFL, since we’re not NFL players ourselves. That’s utterly nonsensical.
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u/cuu8 1d ago
I think anyone is allowed to critique, we all know Bo needs it right now, but to proclaim that Bo is disrespectful to the QB position is just wrong, especially coming from Ryan Fitzpatrick
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u/SkinnyGenez 1d ago
He should have just said that his play is disrespectful to the defense and leave it at that.
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u/Puffy_Ghost Nice 1d ago
No one here is on a national program getting paid to throw opinions around.
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u/strokan Champ Bailey 6h ago
We're allowed to critique and have opinions, the issues is when it gets disrespectful. Which i agree, we shouldn't be allowed to be disrespectful to other people.
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u/ByronLeftwich 1d ago
None of us have ever “insulted the quarterback position” before either. Most of Fitzpatrick’s career was an insult to the quarterback position.
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u/HookedOnBoNix 1d ago
I think anyone can point out someone isn't playing up to standard. But yeah if someone random redditor says someone's play is disrespectful to the position or something I'm gonna mock them.
Only time that's called for is when the player is legitimately clearly given up and trying to lose or something. Not just in a rut
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u/Mackinnon29E 1d ago
My issue is that I don't get why people are hung up on who said it. He's absolutely right and it makes zero difference if Fitzpatrick says it or Tom Brady. Just because Fitz wasn't amazing doesn't make it not true....
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u/AdGroundbreaking7171 1d ago
I get that but if Bo is disrespecting the position with his play, then Fitz must’ve been practically spitting on it
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u/dhopisthename 1d ago
I do think this is probably a good difference for a player thinks about the qb position. fitzpatrick was a gunslinger who threw a ton of picks and made a ton of mistakes as talib points out always on bad teams. its kind of like last night sam darnold had a much better statline, but his two picks probably cost his team the game. Bo has to play way better though. its been really bad this year.
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u/tomfoolist CJ 1d ago
Fitz would have preferred 300 yards and 3 turnovers in a loss. "Disrespectful to the position" is such hyperbolic garbage from a guy who lost a lot more than he won
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u/natziel 1d ago
Yeah you know who knows ball & who doesn't depending on which quarterback people are complaining about this game. The discussion should be 100% about Darnold getting desperate and sabotaging his team while Bo actually understood the assignment and protected the football. Sorry he didn't score enough fanduel points or whatever
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u/Raisinbrahms28 1d ago
And also completely unprofessional. This isn't a youtube show, man, this is an NFL broadcast. You have a duty and responsibility to uphold the integrity of the game. If broadcasters are out here saying this stuff, that's a bad look. They're all part of the same product.
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u/OneWildAndCrazyGuy17 1d ago
Stephen A. Fitzpatrick saying Bo playing is playing awful would not be crazy, or unfair, to say his play is disrespectful to the game is so fucking asinine click bait bullshit coming from a guy whose absolute peak was mediocrity as a beard longer than his career as a starter.
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u/holdmybeerbelly 1d ago
Complete aside from whether or not the criticism is valid, I find it really disappointing that the media hasn’t let the broncos enjoy any of their wins this year
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u/OrangexCrush09 1d ago
Talib is a better fan of the team than 90% of reddit Broncos “fans”
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u/King_Tathaniel 1d ago
How is it not fair for us fans to say Bo Nix needs to be better AND that Fitzpatrick needs to humble himself
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u/OrangexCrush09 1d ago
Nobody owes anyone shit one way or another. Fairness has nothing to do with it.
Anyways, I’d give you the benefit of the doubt if you weren’t calling for Nix to be traded almost immediately after he outduelled Josh Allen in a playoff game but… yeah.
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u/fbritt5 1d ago
Bo is having an issue. He needs to open up on offense more of course. He does seem to be a little flustered back there. It's fixable. Get Peyton Manning in there as a qb guy and see what happens. If it's the injury, Peyton did a great job working on playing again after multiple neck surgeries. Call the man!
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u/photonsponge 1d ago
Who ever thought Aquib would be Bronco Country's voice of reason??
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u/waspocracy Broncos 1d ago
I remember when people were on here begging for Fitzmagic to be our next QB when he was available.
In other news, I rewatched the game on all-22 and Bo did flub a few plays, but no one is giving Seahawks defense enough credit. Like, everyone is shitting on Bo, but why is no one pointing out how good the Seahawks defense is?
Several plays had a ball blocked on line of scrimmage or defenders just flat outplayed the WRs. That one ball to Waddle should’ve been a PI.
I’m more worried about the trend than one game. He has been playing scared.
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u/Pazo_Paxo 1d ago
Its been a common thread this season that people don’t seem to be able to comprehend that Bo is struggling and we’ve been playing against top tier defences who not only exaggerate Bo’s issues but shut down other areas of our offence.
Two things can be true: Bo has the yips and clearly needs to work on certain habits and is also having to play against top tier defences in a brutal slog with few mini byes. But everyone would rather absolve Nix and the offence of all responsibility or pin it solely on Nix.
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u/HumongousMelonheads Barrelman 1d ago
I got torn to shreds saying the same thing in the nfl sub thread yesterday. Bo has already had a better career than fitz. He can criticize his play, but you can’t say he’s disrespected the position when you weren’t shit
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u/CheapParking2944 1d ago
That's fair. Criticism is completely justified imo but the "disrespected the position" piece when Fitz was just chaotic and unreliable is a bit rich.
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u/LameSignIn 1d ago
Just listening to them during the game last night was to much. I don't know how many times they said Nix to to take care of the ball while ignoring what we were doing game plan wise.
Yes we all can agree it was bad play. Let's not include the penalties, dropped passes and the horrible run game. Feels like that injury is really in Nix head just by how he ran when he did.
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u/Ibetterdont 1d ago
God, I love Aqib Talib's takes. Just when I'm feeling down, he's got that reverse card 😂
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u/separeaude DT 1d ago
Lib is never afraid to keep it real and he knows how to generate attention. He’s not wrong and he’s going to print money on the back and forth this is going to start.
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u/TheMightyHornet 1d ago
Aqib Talib is an all-time Broncos legend. Maybe top 10 all time. I will die on this hill.
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u/TheMoonMoth TD 1d ago
I love to imagine that he's wearing Crabtree's chain. LMAO
He's right though.
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u/BiggestBallOfTwine 1d ago
The second I heard Fitz say that, I thought to myself, "Oh! That's rich, coming from you!"
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u/DenverTechGuru 1d ago
Fitzpatrick needs to shut the fuck up. I like the guy, but pearl clutching about the sanctity of the QB position from a dude who was the other option on half the teams in the league is .... absurd.
We know what Bo can do. I'm willing to wait for now.
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u/Bright_Efficiency_87 13h ago
This is the right take. It’s not the criticism that makes no sense, it’s this self righteous attitude that fitz has when he was a mockery at the position his entire career. Literally named fitztragic because he blew games
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u/VorpalBlade- 1d ago
I was actually shocked at the media dog pile on Bo. It’s like the script writers needed something to latch onto. Shit talking bo for playing careful and not getting turnovers? Jackass Darnld had two terrible interceptions and got sacked 6 times and LOST.
Who’s the disgrace here now? Bo did his job and didn’t fuck up and we won. If he had thrown two bad interceptions well then that would have been disrespectful to the defense who was balling out but he didn’t and he managed the game to a win.
I’m sure he’s still not 100% after his injury and is working through it. You think Sean P is going to tell everyone gee hey Bo is a little ginger in his ankle still so take it easy on him haha. SP is a master of deception guys.
And we’re 4-2 after a gauntlet and now we have some steam running down hill. And we have injured players that will come back and have gotten some experience for replacements and younger guys thereby strengthening our team.
This whole shit storm over Bo smells like Thursday (worst day) night football manufactured drama to me.
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u/MistakeAmbitious3287 1d ago
Yeah it’s funny you have the career backups coming out saying Bo is bad when they didn’t do shit.
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u/milehighrukus 1d ago
He’s certainly made a career out of being mediocre…except he isn’t even that.
He started 16 games in 3 of his career seasons.
He threw more TDs than Nix one time.
He threw greater than or equal INTs to Nix 8 times.
Hes 28 games under .500. Never won a playoff game and he choked in the biggest moments.
He had 13 4th quarter comebacks and 18 game winning drives in his entire 17 year career
Nix has 11 fourth quarter comebacks and 13 game winning dives in 2 years and 6 games.
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u/MileHigh_Mac 1d ago
This is what I was waiting for. Aqib is that dude!!!! Ryan is poverty. Buns. A true leader in being ass at football. Dude turns into gibby anytime anything exciting happens on Thursday night football
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u/Trevans 1d ago
I mean, Fitz was not wrong, but I think his comments were a bit over the top. It's been driving me nuts reading all the comments supporting him and nothing really laying into him for being as ass as he was. Sure he had his moments, but overall he was a terrible QB. There is a reason he played for half the league - because he was a great backup, terrible starter. If he was a good starter, teams would have kept him around. Talib probably could have said this more eloquently rather than just repeating "you suck", but fucking THANK YOU for saying exactly what I was thinking when I heard Fitz going off last night 🙄👏👏👏
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u/guillermomcmuffin Demaryius Thomas 1d ago
You guys remember 2 weeks ago when Drake Maye was washed and some Pats fans were calling for a change?
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u/samuelalexbaker 1d ago
Bo has 2 years of good not great play and clutch moments, opens a season off an injury, firstborn and play calling change, and some how those 6 games define his whole career? Let's see how things settle out, I get the need for criticism but it's not a reason for pessimism.
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u/ByronLeftwich 1d ago
Ryan Fitzpatrick was a literal meme of a player and now people eat up his emotional, twitter clickbait rants like they mean anything
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u/Aka_Machina_ 1d ago
I fuckin love how much Talib clearly loves this team. This dude is without a doubt one of my favorite Broncos ever.
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u/Swagtagonist 3 Time World Champs 1d ago
Me and Talib. The last of the true Bolievers
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u/OrangexCrush09 1d ago
Our faith will be rewarded 🫡 but even if it isn’t… at least I’m not as miserable as the doomers that infest this fanbase
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u/TheMightyHornet 1d ago
Crazy to see the fans turn on a guy who just went 4-2 over the most difficult six-game stretch to start a season, ever.
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u/Griffdog17 1d ago
Damn right Aqib. Fitz took a cheap shot, and he has no fucking place to talk lol
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u/BigBackFinalBoss 1d ago
Both Ryan and Aqib aren’t wrong tho. Right message wrong messenger lol
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u/Salty_Helicopter9356 1d ago
I like Fitzpatrick overall. Obviously the dude is very smart and his job is to sensationalize for clicks.
That said, he crossed a line with his comments last night. Especially when Bo has arguably achieved more in 2 years than Fitzpatrick did in a decade+.
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u/Antique-Atmosphere-4 1d ago
You know, Fitzpatrick or Amazon had this video removed from YouTube?! That's kinda sayin' they want NO part of his controversy, or they want to support Fitz?
As a novice Reddit post-er, how can you make this more A PART OF THE CONTRAVERSY?!!! It's insane that Fitz made the 'low ball' comment, when the fact that BOTH QB's SUCKED !!!!
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u/bigdonnie76 1d ago
The guy to the left of Talib made millions of dollars by negatively talking about one of the greatest basketball players of all time. That discourse changed the sports talk landscape and he never played professional basketball.
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u/CanSoft2130 1d ago
I'd rather take a 66% completion percentage with low yards and no picks than throwing for 300 yards with 2 picks that clearly cost Seattle the game.
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u/godofsword45 1d ago
I'm okay with Fitzpatrick having his opinions and trying to generate buzz, but hot damn that might've been too explosive a commentary. You can't say a QB's play is disrespectful to the game and then try to throw in a caveat of he might be injured. Did he say the same thing about Drake Maye during his slump? Bro, you played with Tua and understand what injuries can do to a person physically and mentally. Absolutely not giving Bo an excuse, of course. He needs to heal up if injured and regain his aggression. I need the "I fear no one!" Bo back...
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u/BlackHandKUR 1d ago
Bo had a bunch of plays where he really chickened out and I was a huge Bo-liever. But this Bo doesn’t have the same spine.
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u/happyColoradoDave 1d ago
Nix is struggling. It looks to be a lack of confidence or he is worried about getting hurt. Someone might need to do some coaching
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u/JabbaDuHutt69 1d ago
If we can get to, and win, the super bowl with 2015 Peyton Manning and a good defense, we sure can with Bo Nix. This defense may not be 2015 level, but its good.
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u/Georgia_Jay 1d ago
My man Talib! Now, go up there and snatch the gold chain off Fitzpatick… take a few extra chest hairs with it. Why? Because he sucks.
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u/neomal OVERDOGS 1d ago
Hey this is r/DenverBroncos. We DO NOT defend our quarterback here. We talk mad shit and beg for the QB carousel here. Get with the program!
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u/thewebsiteisdown 1d ago
Ryan "Never won a fucking thing in the NFL ever" Shitzpatrick can go fuck himself
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u/Funny-Junket1066 1d ago
Nix's average pass went 3.0 yards downfield Thursday, a stunningly low number. His furthest completion downfield was 8 yards, and he's averaging 4.9 air yards per attempt. That's not just the lowest in the NFL; it's the lowest by any player through six games in the last 20 years.
The Broncos finished with a measly 168 yards, their fewest in a win since Week 1, 1983 -- John Elway's first start. Denver is currently 31st in yards per game and 32nd in yards per play this season but has a 4-2 record after Thursday's win, a remarkable testament to the defense.
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u/methtical13 1d ago
So in that case, literally everyone on here needs to sit this out and can't make any criticisms of an NFL players play. There can only be maybe a few dozen people in history that can make a comment on Bo's play by that standard if they needed to not only be a an NFL QB, but an above average one. I love Aquib but he's defending the person, without acknowledging the points Fitzpatrick made that were on most everyone's mind already.
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u/Didgeridewd 1d ago
Saying he is “disrespectful to the qb position” is not criticism. It’s a headline that only exists within dipshit hot take culture. Aqib is right
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u/fromdowntownn 1d ago
I think Bo is a bad QB and I agree with this, Fitzpatrick wasn’t critiquing his play he was mocking him and attacking him. At that point it’s perfectly valid to point out Ryan wasn’t a competent QB himself
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u/bicyclechief Elway 1d ago
Acknowledging that you can criticize Bo is fine but “disrespectful to the Qb position” is the issue here. It’s just an attempt at getting shock value for a headline and it’s a dumb statement. Especially when Fitzpatrick himself has been more than disrespectful to the position.
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u/fromdowntownn 1d ago
I happen to think Bo Nix sucks but completely agree with this if he’s gonna say his play is disrespectful to the quarterback position then he’s going beyond the pale of criticism and effectively slamming/mocking the guy. At that point it’s totally fair game for Talib to point out that Fitzpatrick wasn’t a capable NFL QB himself
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u/SHOUT-WoT 1d ago
It’s one thing to have criticism and to point out flaws. It’s another thing to say what Fitzpatrick said. Ryan straight up came for Bo’s throat with that comment, it’s an attack for the sake of relevancy.
Forget the fact that this kid is coming off of a broken ankle 9 months ago and has zero run game to lean on, forget the wins and comebacks and amazing play against Josh Allen. No, Ryan just wants to shit on this kid without considering the fact that he himself has failed where Bo has seen success. No need to call Bo’s play disrespectful because it’s anything but that. He’s out there putting his body on the line and taking more critique than Darnold who literally threw the game away.
Give him time to heal and try is stretch of games agains weaker teams and yall will be eating your words
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u/Anhedonic98 1d ago
I get that Fitz is not who should be saying this, but regardless of who says it, it needed to be said, Bo has not been good enough
Doesn't change much if it was Fitzpatrick saying it or Tom Brady
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u/Apprehensive_Ad6 OVERDOGS 1d ago
Nah, nothing about what Bo's doing is disrespectful to anyone, let alone the position. The media is just dogpiling on a struggling qb because that's the thing they do, and Fitz is just doing his stupid act. The media doesn't know how to criticize players
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u/digbychickcaesar 1d ago edited 1d ago
I might be reading into it but I think Aqib thinks Fitzpatrick sucks