Does She Need Her Artifact At 30?

[u/Daken612]

I can get hers to 30 or Haru's. I didn't know which one needed it more

[u/D_Lo08]

The more i play and see Mei Lin, the more fond i am of how well you can rotate her skills. Some have the idea that Haru is uncontested between them in viability, but i think it’s much closer than we thought initially.

In general, Haru has a crap ton more use, because of how great she is in pve as well, especially the current events and new mode. But Mei Lin’s arti needs to be maxed much more than Haru’s, and there’s always a chance at another bulky thief comes out that can make great use of it, or Kayron gets a good buff, so slim odds. Decide between that, i do consider either options worth maxing.

[u/Xero-- → u/D_Lo08]

Some have the idea that Haru is uncontested between them in viability, but i think it’s much closer than we thought initially.

Haru is stronger in a more ideal draft than Mei Lin, thus people right off Mei Lin. I do agree that Haru is stronger, but aside from outright defense pen and fixed damage, which are problematic for many tbh, the ways you stop Mei aren't different from the ways you stop Haru.

Haru, however, has injury being a constant pain to weigh her down, while facing the same problem Notos does: You have to hit Estelle. She's also very reliant on unremovable buffs and allies that can apply them more than once because casual strips will take away her ability to cleanse and use her S3, and at that point she becomes hot garbage.

Haru's main draw is that she has someone that turns her into an absolutely idotic unit, Nurse. Mei doesn't have anyone that just outright makes her better right away, but she does have units like Byblis and Iseria to turn her into a menace if your opponent just lets you have that. There's also Ivana making her a must ban for Lady and Estelle drafters if they have no one to delay, if not kill, her, and it's pretty funny how many people will quit once Ivana pushes her.

[u/VerivusFS]

Her artifact is useless if not at 30, but Haru is the better character and you can use her artifact on other heroes.

[u/Aktom49 → u/VerivusFS]

Mei lin > haru

[u/VerivusFS → u/Aktom49]

Gameplay wise not in a thousand years

[u/Aktom49 → u/VerivusFS]

Maybe because you don t know how to play Mei lin ^^

[u/Aktom49 → u/VerivusFS]

with haru you kill one player in one turn. With Mei Lin you kill the whole team ^^

[u/t3mplex → u/Aktom49]

Just loud and wrong.

[u/VerivusFS → u/Aktom49]

What is this ragebait

[u/Aktom49 → u/VerivusFS]

Have you heard of soul burn ? Quite usefull

[u/Linosek279 → u/Aktom49]

With mei lin your s1 isn’t one shotting anyone who isn’t absurdly squishy and the amount of souls you’d need to cycle enough to take out an entire team is honestly absurd

[u/Aktom49 → u/Linosek279]

Juste 40

[u/Linosek279 → u/Aktom49]

That’s 2 extra turns. That is NOT killing a whole team that isn’t cleave that somehow failed to kill

[u/Aktom49 → u/Linosek279]

S3 s1 sb s1 sb s3 s2. Go learn how to play

[u/larizap → u/Aktom49]

Hmmm Haru can kill 2 actually, Mei lin too with her ult, I didn't get the point...

[u/Aktom49 → u/larizap]

Non t1 haru n’attaque qu’une personne

[u/larizap → u/Aktom49]

lol then she kills another with extra turn

[u/Aktom49 → u/larizap]

T2 pas t1…

[u/Aktom49 → u/larizap]

Poor kid ☺️

[u/larizap]

Haru is better than her, she fits in most teams with bulk, Mei Lin is situational

[u/ARGHETH]

Haru's definitely better and Mei Lin is fine on Photo, I'd say bottle Haru arti.

[u/Maxiuss456]

Haru's is a lot more useful

[u/Xero--]

If you're using Mei Lin regularly, not having her artifact at +30 is a "may as well slap yourself" case. Having her shrug off debuffs is part of what makes her (somewhat) usable against all these problematic units, and if she gets controlled then you're hurt more by her cycling becoming worse with the absense of an S1, and her outright dying if she can't S3.

Haru's artifact is universally better, but you're not fiending for 10 souls, if you are then you're using Blue Rose on a unit instead. Haru, or whoever uses it, can always get the souls from the team itself, and with evasion heing so awful, there's rarely ever a time you want to soulburn into someone turn one unless it's Estelle, someone Haru is forced to attack.

[u/Allanunderscore21]

I have both at 27.

When Haru can’t SB, you can just pick another target or force it on a shielded unit and rely on pen for damage.

DCorv is the other unit who can use the arti and he really wants that SB. However, he can also use Fire Krau’s arti and just have a bridge unit.

When Mei Lin gets debuffed, you still have a chance of cleansing it on the opponent’s next attack. She also has an extra turn so 1-turn debuffs are a non-issue.

For a 2-turn blind, you “skip” your turn by doing S3>S1 x2 and then SB S1 on your next turn to unleash her killing combo.

If she gets silenced and her turn is next, then you’re out of luck. Feared? No dual attacks or counters with Monarch which means only 1 stack of Zeal.

So my next bottle goes to Mei Lin because it’s a lot more debilitating if it fails. It’s also a lot easier to gather 10 souls to SB Haru and Haru’s true killing blow, her modified S1, doesn’t need any at all.

[u/Xero-- → u/Allanunderscore21]

I'm sorry, why is Haru's soulburn being given so much attention here when it's just a hit chance boost?