r/Flights • u/OrganicSherbert1788 • 1d ago
Help Needed Travel agency is refusing to refund my already cancelled ticket. Advise needed.
Let me start by saying I have learned my lesson. I will never book through a third party agency ever again. Only directly through the airline from now on.
That being said, I booked a flight through traveloka back in July. It’s a Malaysia Airlines flight.
Sometimes when there’s a schedule change, they let you change your ticket or allow you a refund, even on non-refundable tickets.
When I received a notification that there had been a schedule change, it allowed me the options to change or cancel. I opted to cancel the ticket. I did this through the Malaysia Airlines app (my ticket was already added there).
The cancellation was accepted by the airline and it stated I needed to call for assistance in receiving the refund. When I called, they said the ticket has been cancelled but the refund needs to go through traveloka. Makes sense.
I called traveloka. They said to start the refund process through the app. I did this, it got rejected. I called them again. They put through the refund request manually. Got rejected again. They told me ‘the airline rejected the refund request’. Even though I spoke to the airline and they said this isn’t the case.
I’ve called the airline directly and traveloka directly, at least 10 times at this point. Traveloka keeps repeating the same thing, and now says that if I can get the airline to give me written confirmation of the cancellation, they will reconsider. The airline has told me they won’t do this. They said that traveloka needs to contact them by email and then they will provide traveloka with the confirmation. But traveloka refuses to contact them.
I’m now stuck and so extremely frustrated. They’re refusing to refund me, but the cancellation was accepted, so I no longer have a ticket either.
Where do I go from here? I really need the money at this point and can’t afford to just drop it. Any help/advise is appreciated.
Screenshot included
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u/RomanColosseumExpert 1d ago edited 1d ago
Your screenshot already shows the important part: Malaysia Airlines accepted the cancellation and sent the confirmation to Traveloka's own e-ticket inbox, not to you. On an agency booking the airline returns the money to the agency, not to the passenger, so Traveloka has the confirmation, and whether they also have the money is the question to put to the airline.
Call Malaysia Airlines on the number in your screenshot and ask whether the refund was approved and released to the agent. Then email Traveloka and ask them to look at that confirmation. If they still refuse, their answer plus the screenshot is what your card issuer will want for the chargeback, and don't wait on it, because card disputes have time limits.
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u/OrganicSherbert1788 1d ago
Yep I did this. Malaysia airlines won’t tell me if the refund has released to them. They said they can only communicate about it with the agency not the passenger. I have also called and emailed traveloka telling them to look at the confirmation email. They don’t care.
I’ll contact my bank now I guess.
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u/Meh-blah-Ommph 1d ago
I had the same experience, but booked directly with Malaysia Airlines.
I chose the cancellation and got the same message. No email confirmation, and when I tried to look at my booking again it just shows a screen “this booking doesn’t exist”.
Not a peep from Malaysia Airlines- it just disappeared. It has been 1 week and no refund.
Until I saw this post I had no more access to that page with the phone number (I know I could’ve looked it up online…), so decided to give them a chance, and wait to see if the refund would drop.
I’ll be calling today, and if no movement I’ll be doing a charge back on my credit card.
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u/rocketwikkit 1d ago
If you're in the US you could file a complaint with the DOT. You could also look at small claims court, but you'd have to figure out the correct jurisdiction and also see if you already agreed to arbitration. If you're not in the US then look into your local consumer rights organizations.
It's a pretty typical !ota story though.
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u/AutoModerator 1d ago
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Some OTAs, such as Kiwi, will combine separately issued tickets appearing like real layovers but in reality are self-transfers - requiring a lot more planning and contingencies. This includes dealing with single-leg cancellations of your completely disjointed itinerary. See #1 #2 #3 #4
Other OTAs, including Trip.com, don't always issue your tickets immediately. There have been known instances where the OTA contacts you 24-72h later asking for more money as "the price has changed" or your ticket is no longer available at the lower price. See #1.
More reputable OTAs like Expedia, Priceline, and travel portals like Chase Travel, AMEX Travel, Costco Travel, generally have fewer issues issuing tickets and marginally better customer service. They are also more transparent regarding cached stale prices - as you check out and pay, they will do a live refresh of the real ticket price and warn you that prices have changed (it is not a bait and switch).
In short: OTAs sometimes have their place for some people - but most of the time, especially for simple itineraries, provide no benefit and only increases the risk and can end costing a lot more than what you had saved by buying from the OTA.
Common issues you will face:
- offering you a cheap separate-ticket self-transfer itinerary causing various problems down the road
- not subject to the DOT or airline policy 24h free cancellation. See #1
- missing communications from OTA or not being notified of schedule changes #1 #2
- paying the OTA to add baggage but not communicated to the airline or OTA incorrectly indicating included baggage #1 #2 #3 #4
- paying the OTA for overpriced baggage compared to the airline
- paying the OTA for baggage that's already included
- paying the OTA for seat selection that's not communicated to the airline #1 #2
- your ticket not issuing or delayed issuing or transaction being reversed
- your name being incorrectly spelled on your eticket?
- difficulties changing flights or getting rebooked correctly #1 #2 or finding anyone competent enough to help
- charging you for a check-in service that is free
- enrollment in a subscription program like edreams or opodo Prime that is hard to cancel #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7
- not honouring free changes or cancellations when airline reschedules
- Secretly booking your trip as two separate tickets for the outbound and return so that if the airline cancels or reschedules the outbound, only the first leg is eligible for a refund (or free change)
- not refunding you promptly (or at all) #1 #2 #3 when the airline cancels #4 #5 #6
- not refunding ancillary fees or other extra fees #1
- unuseable kiwi credits after the airline declines issuing a ticket instead of a refund
Things you should do, if you've already purchased from an OTA:
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u/Consistent-Sea-8923 1d ago
The thing is most of those DOT regulations only apply if you bought directly from the airline
Which is why there’s a common refrain on here- don’t buy tickets from a third-party site.
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u/guernica-shah 1d ago
credit card dispute.