r/GoatPunishment • u/yaznasty • May 01 '25

Hopes or expectations for A20?

We know we're getting an album 20 at some point...and at this point it will have been one of the longest gaps between projects since Hurley->ewbaite or Pinkerton->Green. I know those in Rivers' discord have seen some track names, but probably not much else or any indication of the type of sound it'll be. Does anyone have any hopes or expectations about the sound of the album? I feel like with it being album 20, a long layoff since sznz, us being past the Blue anniversary tour, there are going to be a lot of expectations for this to be something special. Personally, I hope there's no real gimmick to the album but there are some themes that can appeal to older fans. I'm thinking along terms of ewbaite and some of the other demos from the ecce homo era.

Any thoughts, hopes wishes, etc?

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u/olivier_wmv May 01 '25

As much as I loved autumn and winter, I just hope it doesn't feel as segmented as sznz

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u/yaznasty May 03 '25

I feel like it would be hard for anything to be as segmented as that was, since it was segmented as part of the goal of the project.  Unless Rivers decided Album 20 is actually going to be twelve 3-song EPs called "MNTHZ"

I liked sznz overall but it was helpful to remember sometimes that apparently Rivers was writing these songs as he was going? Doesn't allow for quite a much time to perfect the songs themselves.  

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u/olivier_wmv May 03 '25

Nah, rivers had all the songs written in 2021, a year before sznz came out

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u/yaznasty May 03 '25

Huh why did I feel like at one point he said he was writing them as he went? The project changed a lot as he developed it, but I must've misunderstood.  Did he write them during the seasons themselves in 2021? 

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u/olivier_wmv May 03 '25

I'm not sure when they were actually written, what I meant was that by 2021 the song writing was pretty much finished.

There was a leak of rivers' demos for sznz (all solo acoustic) and the songs didn't change much from these demos to the final product.

They have the dates on them the majority are from June and May of 2021 with a few being dated as October, February, or July of 2021.

Though I do know that a few songs did change. For example Portia was originally called Dorothy, and thank you and goodnight was called Monday night football which was the song rivers was talking about years ago that he said was about the pilot of the Goodyear blimp (which explains the "from this vantage I can see" line).

Anyway, the things that really changed were the tracklists and song selections. All this love was written for summer but ended up getting recorded for spring, and there are a few songs that were never even used like good morning and bitter moln

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u/yaznasty May 03 '25

Appreciate your insight, I wasn't as knowledgeable about the whole process for this project.  

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u/AbleChamp Mar 02 '26

I'm not sure where they are even headed at this point. I was really expecting something to come of the markers merch drop they did a few weeks ago, but it was just for that crazy priced multi-album vinyl set. Seems like something cooked up by the merch company to just burn some time.