r/Harvard • • 15d ago

Is this one of Harvard’s faculty or staff? She presents herself as a “Harvard Educator” according to her website and responses

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u/Satisest 15d ago

She’s a student, not faculty or staff. She’s doing an M.Ed. degree at Harvard GSE. She’s also appointed as a TF (Teaching Fellow), as are many graduate students.

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u/IntelligentRosie96 14d ago

She finished her degree at HGSE. There are TAs and TFs and CAs. Proctors/Tutors and RAs are similar but vastly different.

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u/jordanf1214 15d ago

Should we just shut down all the schools? Shut down Harvard? How do you think YOUR educators got where they are today? 🙄

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u/jordanf1214 15d ago

Yeah as far as I know there’s no student teaching practicum at all - though some classes have observations/practicums for just a couple hours a week. Honestly BU has much better masters in Ed than Harvard does

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u/vmlee & Retired HGC Exec 14d ago

It depends on the track one is taking.

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u/jordanf1214 14d ago

Yeah definitely. For teaching itself BU is better, but for Ed policy and administration Harvard might be better. It’s just that Harvard’s Ed program is more theoretical than practical in its teaching strategies

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u/IntelligentRosie96 14d ago

The programs are different. There is a TTL program which does involve a teaching practicum. The strands are different with Harvard indexing in leadership development and community engagement. Go read the website. Go visit the school.

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u/Strong_Welcome4725 15d ago

Believe it or not it’s good for teachers

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u/Santillana810 15d ago

Why do you say that? Are you aware that fully licensed teachers in Massachusetts are require to either have or eventually earn a master's degree? Are you in the education field?

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u/localhost87 15d ago

This is also a terrible policy.

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u/abughorash '20s grad 15d ago

No, a TF is what Harvard calls what would be called a TA at any other school. Just like we call our RAs "proctors". This is some craaaazy exaggeration lmao, with the Mamdani font and everything

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u/Puzzleheaded-Pea2426 15d ago

Probably ran it thru Nano banana lite lol

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u/sarindong 15d ago

she was a TF for one of my courses last term and she was fine. but the criticism on the post on r/milton is brutal

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u/Select-External-72 5d ago

Its fair criticism…..Her dad is a real estate agent who is known to scam people in Milton. And she isn’t exactly involved in the community….she joined a couple things as an exec member when her campaign started in May….the organizations she joined …we have not heard from her since she joined the committees and she has not contributed.

Also a prof from your program Dr. Marshall Ganz is endorsing a nepo baby. Zainab’s campaign isn’t exactly the grassroots organizing Dr.Ganz writes books about. This is embarrassing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Milton/s/Jmzzcw5MsR

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u/LopsidedEntrance8703 15d ago

She’s got a textbook authored under her name on her campaign materials which looks like AI slop, lol.

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u/IntelligentRosie96 10d ago

You mean the textbooks published with THIS GUY? https://www.gse.harvard.edu/directory/faculty/fernando-reimers Come on, bro.

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u/rjoker103 15d ago

I’m surprised Milton.com domain wasn’t taken.

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u/Lie-Straight 15d ago

Local politicians gotta start somewhere. I applaud her ambition and willingness to take the lumps, even if I don’t agree with her ideas (I know Milton Ontario well)

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u/abughorash '20s grad 15d ago

I for one don't admire the blatant lying she's basing her campaign on. She may be new to politics but she's got the ethics of an expert!

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u/Select-External-72 5d ago

I mean she slapped her face next to Zohran so seems like she is an expert at lying.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Milton/s/Jmzzcw5MsR

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u/IntelligentRosie96 14d ago

How is this blatant lying? She IS a a TF for this course.

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u/abughorash '20s grad 14d ago

She's lying by calling herself a "Harvard educator," which implies faculty, and definitely lying when someone in the AMA asks her whether a TF is the same thing as a TA and she says no.

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u/IntelligentRosie96 12d ago

They are not the same. Hence the difference in title. They are also dramatically different across course/school/discipline.

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u/abughorash '20s grad 12d ago

They are absolutely the same.

TAs duties differ fairly widely across course/school/discipline, this is well known, but there is a general core of responsibilities as well as a range of responsibilities considered acceptable. This is exactly the same for TFs because, guess what, they're the same thing.

The "difference in title" is absolutely meaningless because Harvard has no "TA" concept; the naming is one of those Harvard naming things like proctor and BLGTQ.

Did you even go here?

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u/IntelligentRosie96 12d ago

The all knowing Harvard College grad…they are not the same. Proctors are NOT RAs. TFs are NOT TAs. —signed former TF, TA, Doctoral Student, Research Assistant, and Faculty across three different schools. You reek of elitism.

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u/abughorash '20s grad 12d ago edited 10d ago

A proctor is an RA, as commonly understood, except they're a grad student. House culture in particular might result in additional duties, here, something not present for the TA/CA/TF divide.

A TF is quite literally a TA, as commonly understood, except they're a grad student. They lead sections, hold office hours/review sessions, and grade assignments. Such a person is called a TA at 99.99% of universities in North America.

Without exception, every single harvard webpage I can find on this subject supports this (1, 2, 3). Do you have any statements supporting the opposite? Hell, do you even care to elaborate on how they're different (according to you)? Because you just keep saying "they are!111".

It's "elitism" to call TFs TAs and not their own special thing just because they go to Harvard? If anything it's the opposite lmao

Edit: lmaooo u/intelligentrosie96 with the respond-then-block. peak redditor nonsense

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u/IntelligentRosie96 10d ago

Have you held any of these roles? Doesn't sound like it.

Since you asked for a source, here’s the 2022 HGSU-Harvard collective bargaining agreement. Article 2 is literally titled “Titles and Classifications.” Harvard classifies instructional workers based on duties and eligibility and assigns distinct titles and pay classifications accordingly.

Are the roles analogous? Sure. Do they overlap? Absolutely. I never said otherwise. But “similar roles” and “the same role with a Harvard-specific name” are not the same thing.

You asked for a source. Here you go.

https://harvardgradunion.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Clean-version-of-new-CBA-no-red-lines-1-25-22.pdf

IWTTYL.

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u/Plastic-Pattern-8993 10d ago

I personally have been a TF and I agree with u/abughorash. It is a TA role. It is okay to admit being wrong!

The TA/TF naming split at Harvard is entirely bureocrsatic/organizational specificities in nomenclature (i.e. most Harvard insinuations do not have a role called "TA"). The document you link to supports this in numerous locations

Give anyone at a non-Harvard college in North America a list of TF responsibilities and it will exactly match their perception of a TA.

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u/nebulous_undefined 12d ago

Particular demographic lying about qualifications to spearhead their way into political power. Fork found in kitchen

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u/waffles2go2 11d ago

The label is disingenuous and knowing a few people who have been through HGSE, it seems to be one of the programs that accepts a ton of people for the Masters (35-50%)... not the PHD...

And anyone who's been a TA knows the drill so please "the harvard horror story"... like no, just no...

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u/vmlee & Retired HGC Exec 15d ago edited 15d ago

Not faculty or staff as a Teaching Fellow, but Teaching Fellows are educators at Harvard. "Harvard educator" would be technically correct, especially if the Teaching Fellow role involved direct instruction.

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u/Alternative-Blue 14d ago

It's legally correct but deeply unserious.

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u/Master-Rent5050 14d ago

You do realize that most of actual teaching is done by adjuncts ?

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u/IntelligentRosie96 14d ago

The role of TF/TA role is unionized one that is varied across the university with several courses involving direct instruction. The school runs on the back of TFs. Unless you’ve been one you have no idea of the amount of work being performed by one. In my time there, I completely developed great portions of the courses or completely managed the assessment portion. Many of us managed the sections on our own, especially with the larger classes. The professors at Harvard are brilliant but many times courses (and students) survive because of TFs/TAs.