r/ImmigrationPathways • u/JurgusRudkus • 7d ago
For all the people saying it’s just about illegal immigration…
This has dire consequences for our economy in the near and long term.
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u/D13_Phantom 7d ago
Bunch of idiots in the comment not realizing that a ton less people spending money hurts the economy.
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u/Aspectdude09 7d ago
MAGA is pivoting to they want all immigration gone unless it is white South Afrikaner refugees
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u/copeaesth3tic 7d ago
We've literally learned multiple times that pushing out immigrants hurts the economy.
Multiple times shithole states like Mississippi and Missouri have done this at a state level and had issues in the last 20 years. The problem is your average American is genuinely stupid and they're twice as smart as your typical Trumper.
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u/Resident-Banana-7883 7d ago
for all the dolts disagreeing, the multiplier effect explained
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u/LongIslandThorn 5d ago
This is not a new plan. It was the plan all along if we read between the lines and followed the policy positions to their natural conclusions. The goal is a smaller economy with less people, less GDP, less of everything. They never said that, but that's what I heard. Example 1: JD claims that high housing prices are the result of too many immigrants purchasing homes. Deport them all and stop immigration and Americans will be able to afford homes. How many people would need to leave to affect the housing market. Enough to shrink the economy! Example 2: Construction 🚧 Less labor= higher costs => less construction. If not for the enormous investment in A.I., we'd be heading to a recession.
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u/Latinbelle2022 7d ago
You make too much sense. Racists are scrambling to create profiles to comment on your post as we speak. Lol
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u/StopTheMeta2 6d ago
They also don't grasp how those kind of politics turn out. They rely on the fact they created a bogeyman to stay in power. Once immigrants are gone, they'll start going after homosexuals, the disabled, the poor, the unemployed, political adversaries and anyone they think they can get away attacking. It's very likely it will come a day they will turn against the very people who voted for them.
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u/dragcov 7d ago
What do you mean? I thought immigrants are getting free money from the government to spend it all on buying the houses available???
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u/salsafresca_1297 7d ago
**AND** stealing our jobs, to boot! I'd love to go steal peoples' jobs and get government money to buy a nice house! Where do I sign up? /s
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u/HashRunner 7d ago
Republicans remove and obstruct all the legal avenues for immigration, then demonize those that are now "illegal" as a result of republican efforts.
Republicans manufacture issues, they never solve them.
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u/PreparationKey2843 7d ago
The same bots, paid operatives and/or unpatriotic "patriots" coming in early. Like if they're waiting for a post to drop. It's not subtle at all, very obvious.
Same ones, comment after comment, post after post.
Pre midterms interference or running batshit scared.
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u/Burt_Macklin___ 7d ago
They aren't all bots, some are just racist.
And all this talk about illegals etc, is just an excuse to legitimise their racism. They hate legal immigrants, they hate people of colour's who've lived for generations. The driving force behind it is white supremacy. Even Right wing people of colour, their talking points and opinions are formed from white supremacist arguments
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u/JurgusRudkus 7d ago
And some are just really ignorant. They don’t understand how their own economy works, so they are easily manipulated with lies, like that tariffs are “to level the playing field because other nations have been taking advantage of the US” or “the job market is limited and Americans are competing with immigrants.”
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u/GhostRappa95 7d ago
We had a service based economy and took in workers from all across the world to make that work. MAGA in their bigoted rage has ruined all of that.
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u/jc_kilgannon 7d ago
Stop trying to convince already racist MFS about this. They're already ignorant racist.
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u/NES_WallStreetKid 7d ago
“The people here can do the job.” Then why is it that so many farmers do not have anyone to work their crops? That’s just one industry.
“Immigrants don’t assimilate.” Most first generation immigrants don’t assimilate as well (ie it’s not easy to learn a new language when you’re old”). It’s usually the second generation (American born) and every successive generation. Every American is a descendant of an immigrant, unless you’re Native American, and most Americans have assimilated by now.
“Form enclaves throughout the country.” Every single American does the same thing. Most people want to live around “their own kind” because they feel more comfortable around what is familiar.
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u/NoMakeSenseOk 7d ago
The irony being that many farmers are paying their workers SUPER high wages, and yet they can't find any non-immigrants wanting to work the field.
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u/02cdubc20 5d ago
I bet in the same breath you blame billionaires and want to tax them.
Simole supply and demand you flood the US with cheap labor … you can figure it out.
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u/Scared_Brilliant6410 5d ago
I’m not worried about farm labor. The one that annoys me is companies like Microsoft who apparently laid off 6,000 workers and brought in 6,100 H1B workers. People are hurting in the job market and I think tech companies should be hiring US workers first. Those jobs could be huge opportunities for a someone that’s already here.
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u/antisemitiCat_ 4d ago
So you’re in favor of importing cheap labor so they don’t have to pay Americans a “living wage” ?? Isn’t that what you guys always say? Living wage
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u/nonubiz 7d ago
I believe our border should be secure. I don’t believe in cruelty should be the point. That is just evil and unnecessary. Please do get rid of the violence criminals but to destroy families that have established generations and a home. Is just plain cruel evil and wrong. They were lured here for cheap labor both sides let them in for years. Now the political tides have turned. To treat them like enemies combatants is wrong ,evil, and racist. (Do better America )
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u/LuckyPlaze 7d ago
I agree completely. Sadly, the people who voted for Trump would be happy with that graph.
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u/Soggy-Dragonfruit171 7d ago
No one supports illegal immigration but guess which party has blocked any attempts at creating a coherent immigration policy for decades? The same party that has blocked all attempts to provide decent healthcare…..the Republicans!!
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u/Least_Art5238 7d ago
There is also the demographic aspect. The only population growth that the US anticipates is due to immigration. Fertility is well before replacement in the US. If immigration is curbed to the point of reversing population growth, that will recess the economy.
Nobody considers Japan a world leader economically even though they were the second largest economy in the world 30 years ago. The US stands to go exactly down that path.
All the Americans salivating over more jobs and cheaper homes if we were all to magically perish? They have a terrible work-life balance and a near broken social security system to reckon with. You think healthcare insurance is a crisis now? Wait until bankrupt seniors who make up 30% of the population happens.
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u/TechCynical 6d ago
brah you think these people care. What you just said is literally music to their ears hearing that less people would be race mixing. None of this was ever about their economic policy beliefs.
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u/reluctantpotato1 7d ago edited 7d ago
Even caravans and carloads of illegal immigrants are more of a net positive to this country than billionaires. That isn't to say there doesn't need to be a coherant immigration policy, just that our anger in largely misdirected away from the right people to blame for our economic circumstances.
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u/Almaegen 7d ago
Just so you know the CATO Institute is owned by the Koch brothers who Bernie Sanders famously said "Open Borders is a Koch Brothers Proposal". Don't trust billionaire funded "studies".
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u/According_Pass_2348 4d ago
All the criminal aliens are just great
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u/A_gadfly_on_the_wall 4d ago
If you think criminal aliens are bad, wait til you get a load of this convicted fraud.
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u/TopicThunder2000 3d ago
No, they aren't. If illegal immigrants made the country stronger, their home countries would be in better shape.
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u/Autodidact2 7d ago
Meanwhile in reality we desperately need immigrants for demographic reasons. We are aging ourselves into non-existence and the solution is immigration.
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u/gokdbarsgold 6d ago
“GDP MUST ABSOLUTELY GO UP AND TO THE RIGHT NO MATTER WHAT SO LET US IMPORT INFINITY INDIANS!”
Japan looks chill, I’ll take that.
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u/Dilapidated_girrafe 7d ago
Because it never was about illegal immigration, it was about brown people in general.
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u/StillMostlyConfused 7d ago
I’ve never been under the impression that it was just illegal immigration. From my impression, ICE’s removal was for illegal immigration but cutting all immigration to some point was a goal.
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u/No_Departure_1878 7d ago
Isn't illegal immigration illegal? How do we even know ho much of it there is? Also, much of that legal immigration were legal loopholes that should not have existed to begin with.
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u/Holiday-Leading2113 4d ago
They do pay taxes you know… the IRS separates tax collection from immigration enforcement, thats why they know
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u/Calm_Fact_1135 5d ago
I helped to manage a restaurant for many years. I paid full taxes on all our illegal labor and no one ever complained. Tried like the Dickens to get legal labor to wash dishes and bus tables and prepare food; never even got any legal applications for those jobs. Illegal immigrants are a source of free money for the government. We need to punish employers rather than employees before real change in immigration can happen.
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u/Skete_5959 3d ago
While it is true that increased immigration leads to economic growth, generally speaking, the economic benefits described by increased immigration are captured by 1%, billionaire, corporate, interests. And while it is true that increasing immigration would lessen the burden of the national debt, I am unconvinced that this is more significant than investing in productivity gains. In fact, despite my earlier views, I am increasingly concerned that the trade offs involved in immigration are not worth it at the present time.
Republicans are representing the worst forms of just idiotic racism-based reactions to immigration while democrats are doing their best to 1. Boost what they hope, probably incorrectly, will be a reliable voting demographic, and 2. Increase the labor reserve to reduce their donors labor costs.
I think a general formula for immigration policy in the future should be to clamp down on mass migration, legalize those who are already here without a criminal record, end the H1b program and replace it with a (this time actually, not just “someone cheaper from abroad”) genuine talent program to recruit the best and brightest. Student visas should be handed out like candy for both the immense economic and foreign relations benefits.
This is of course all an economic perspective, ignoring the fact that the country is a tinderbox and immigration one of the most contentious issues.
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u/Ryotys 7d ago
This does not have any dire consequences for our economy. We have an excess of labor, which is why people can't negotiate their pay whatsoever. We want housing costs to go down? We need less people wanting to buy houses. Immigrating in 15 million people every 4 years, legal or not, is not the way to fix our economy for the American tax payer. Just because the gdp goes up, does not mean the actual economy for the middle class or lower class is improved. In fact, it is probably just the super uper class that it actually helps.
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u/Over-Support-7086 7d ago
>We have an excess of labor, which is why people can't negotiate their pay whatsoever
I mean sure, if you deliberately ignore the history of labor struggles in the US so you can make your pro-Epstein Class point. it's definitely just a supply and demand issue and has nothing to do with years of crushing organized labor. Look away from the billionaire chomos, get mad at your Honduran lunch lady
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u/Geedeepee91 7d ago
I have the same ideals as the European countries with strong social welfare, they are extremely hard on illegal immigration
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u/Over-Support-7086 7d ago
Funny you should say that, given that the most anti-immigrant parties in the Nordics are also pushing for cutting their social welfare system.
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u/Geedeepee91 7d ago
The countries that implemented strong social welfare programs understand that the system would get overrun without strong immigration policies.
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u/Ryotys 7d ago
You're pro epstein class for pushing to bring in more illegal labor that will be used effectively as slave labor, or child labor, by the wealthy, as it has been for decades, and will continue to be the longer y'all push for illegal immigrants.
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u/Modsluvcensorship 7d ago
A lot of people don’t know Epstein was actually a registered Democrat before his 2008 conviction, he also donated over ten times more to democrats than he did republicans. So letting migrants in would more than likely be Jeffery’s take.
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u/Over-Support-7086 7d ago edited 7d ago
Are you ever going to notice that the people pushing your preferred immigration policy are also the very people who use the slave labor? Are you one of those people that thinks Trump has a purely innocent or totally coincidental decades long friendship with a convicted human trafficker? Have you ever considered that the goal is to terrorize immigrants into not organizing for higher wages, which would totally destroy this whole 'import cheap labor' trick?
edit: oof, seeing a lot of pro-israel stuff in the comment history too. How vile! That's another thing you agree with ol Eppy on. I guess there are good kinds of illegal immigrants that you will support, as long as they're of the right race.
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u/GuyAtAnLCS 7d ago
The people you are arguing with are "graph go up" people. They cannot be reasoned with
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u/middle1984 7d ago
Then the millions who walked across in the past 7 yrs sure hasn't helped. Look at things since 2020 till now
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u/seal72 7d ago
In that graphic you can see how ilegal immigration was around 140k (guessing monthly?) in Jan 2024 to around 10k in Jan 2026, that is 130k less. Now legal migration went from 150k on Jan 2024 to 40k on Jan 2026 that is 110k less. Also the graphic caption says, “The Trump administration has cut more legal immigration than ilegal immigration.” So ilegal immigration is 130k less and legal immigration is 110k less. That caption is not accurate, and if something so simple to deduce is inaccurate, what can we expect of the data?
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u/JurgusRudkus 7d ago
Sigh.
Do you see how the chart shows immigration numbers over both the Biden AND the Trump administrations, but the sub heading is only talking about Trump? By Jan 2025 illegal immigration was already falling to 60k. It plateaued around 10k for a net loss of 50k. Now compare that number to the net loss in ALL THE OTHER types of legal immigration (students, asylum seekers etc. )
Now do you understand?
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u/Thin_Emotion 7d ago
Exactly what I was thinking when looking at the graph. The title caption doesn't match the graphics.
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u/Ryotys 7d ago
Yup. Op doesn't know how to read a graph. Also doesn't realize that a lot of illegal immigration results from expired visas, so cutting visas is simply another way to cut down illegal immigration, just further ahead.
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u/Over-Support-7086 7d ago
What reason do we have to believe the immigration numbers coming out of the Trump admin?
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u/DbangRule98 7d ago
Why is restriction immigration for some time such a bad and racist position? This has happened before and plenty of countries do it. I don’t think the economic consequences will be bad considering ai and robotics will take plenty of low skilled jobs in the following decades.
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u/BodhiFish 7d ago
Obama had immigration enforcement. This is Nazi Brown Shirts engaging in intimidation with policy goals of bigotry, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, sadism & cruelty.
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u/DramaticRoom8571 7d ago
The only Nazi brownshirts are the violent ANTIFA filth that do the bidding of the Democrat Party
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u/BodhiFish 7d ago
Hardly. The “filth” is all the right/Reich Neo Nazi wannabes. The MAGAT party has a Nazi problem, and you fascists have had a Nazi problem for a long time.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/04/republican-party-nazi-problem/686055/
https://www.ms.now/opinion/nate-hochman-state-department-desantis-staffer-nazi-imagery
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u/buzzlegummed 7d ago
We lost 5 developers that had h1b paperwork issues. Our company just assigned overseas contractors that can’t speak the language. Gotta love the logic.
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u/independence_dei 7d ago
Outsourcing is going as fast as it can possibly go regardless of immigration. My entire team was outsourced, except for a junior employee, and many were already underpaid contract workers - but you can go cheaper still!
If you want the remaining jobs to go to H-1Bs, that's certainly a choice. I've had great H-1B colleagues, but I've also never seen any attempt to fill jobs with local workers first.
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u/xxxmechashivaxxx 7d ago
Good. No reason to let these big corporations, hospitals, universities, etc to ship in cheap labor over the American citizens. Then look at India and ask those fake degrees, medical, they be giving so they can take American jobs while being highly unqualified since they education was faked. Not to mention how the patients get fucked over. So that's Trump reducing the fraud is another great win for America. Same with ice taking it the illegal trash.
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u/AuthorMediocre4024 7d ago
Cato institute would be perfectly happy if all Americans died tomorrow and were replaced by 3rd worlders. Their data sucks and anyone who believes them is a fool.
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u/Livid-Ganache547 7d ago
The Cato Institute is a libertarian think tank that promotes classical liberalism.
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u/Opposite-Two-8509 6d ago
I don’t think it’ll hurt our economy if we stopped letting people in. We have enough people.
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u/yumyumnoodl3 6d ago
Remember when lefties on reddit claimed you can’t stop illegal immigration anyway and he will fail? Funny how the goalpost moves now
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u/Ok_Telephone42 6d ago
Incredible. Worth the vote every time.
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u/JurgusRudkus 6d ago
Side question, have you found any women willing to date you yet? I saw you’ve been struggling.
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u/Lucid_Chemist 6d ago
This is because we are finding out big corporations are laying off Americans who are making good wages and replacing them with cheaper h1b immigrants, recently Microsoft and adobe 😂.
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u/Helpful-Pirate-2040 5d ago
Immigrants added 150 billion to the IRS’s coffers in the last 10 years and collect little to no benefits
What’s the problem
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u/Calm_Fact_1135 5d ago
If the punishment were meted out to companies and corporations and farmers who hire cheap, exploitable labor rather than chasing minorities around, the immigration problem could be solved.
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u/your_moms_favorite6 4d ago
Funny how you all get concerned about economics when you wanna tax the shit out of everything
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u/CommanderGO 4d ago
DHS told everyone that they were going to issue less visas anyways. How can you address illegal immigration without also slowing or stopping legal immigration?
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u/SafeForMyGirlFriend 3d ago
damn when you put it that way i guess i am against most migration at this point. Im against illegel. Im against h1b. I dont sse the point student. So fiance asylum and regugeees im for i guess but i could take it or leave it.
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u/JurgusRudkus 3d ago
You against spelling and punctuation too?
Christ the energy of the collective IQ of MAGA couldn’t ignite a pile of pine needles after a drought.
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u/Live_Association7829 3d ago
So liberal delulu land thinks making sure American companies hire Amercan workers instead of discount priced H1B visa holders is a bad thing?
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u/Le_petite_bear_jew 2d ago
Lol no it doesn't, we don't need to import millions of third worlders. Demography is destiny
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u/Jaded-Attention 7d ago
We don't need low & mid-level H1B's in this country. It's clearly been heavily abused by companies like Microsoft. Personally I hope the cuts affects the population of Indians near where I live as they are contributing to the overcrowding & traffic. We need our education system to effectively educate our population so American companies can hire American citizens.
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u/Excellent-Site-5700 7d ago
You can help achieve these things by voting out GOP.
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u/sachiprecious 7d ago
They always say they're not anti-immigrant; they just want immigrants to come in the legal way. And yet, look at this. This takes away their excuse. It was never about "the legal way." That was just an excuse to be xenophobic.
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u/Suspicious_Cancel416 7d ago
Ahhh yes, immigration policy should be set by the economy standards, aka the billionaires.
You’re just admitting that you’re willing to destroy the country for money.
Patsy for the Koch brothers - you know Bernie used to talked about this before he got rich
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u/Over-Support-7086 7d ago
if we're going to do this, you're articulating Epstein's preferred immigration policy
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u/chitownphishead 7d ago
All the people that constantly whine about "affordability", housing costs, inflation, but also less immigrants, don't seem to understand supply and demand economics. Less people, especially unskilled labor, being imported means lower demand. Illegals being removed along with less imports lowers demand across the board, frees up housing and jobs, raises wages, and benefits everyone.
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u/ItsAStillMe 6d ago
Good. Slowing all immigration is a positive at this point. Stopping all illegal entry is a necessity.
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u/Dear_Seesaw_1855 7d ago
That doesn’t include the millions of undocumented immigrants not on that list under Biden. Everyone is saying how hard it is to get a job, why is this bad. Dire consequences? We can always increase immigration if and when needed.
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u/TuorSonOfHuor 7d ago
Basically speed running the destruction of the Us economy’s. Honestly it’s impressive. He’s our greatest modern enemy, and he runs the show.
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u/Electrical_Cap5382 7d ago
Immigration is a privilege and not a right… I’m glad foreigners are being restricted from coming here
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u/Serbban 7d ago
Using the Cato Institute is a dog whistle in of itself but the headline just screams 'my bigotry is higher than my IQ'
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u/JurgusRudkus 7d ago
The Cato Institute leans conservative. Even THEY seem to think the administration are idiots, because they are researchers.
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u/No-Essay-7667 7d ago
The country is going through deep cost of living crisis tho I don’t think getting more people right now is the right move (except family reunion etc) - not a Trump fan at all btw
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u/Kalani49er 7d ago
I'm mad that he has not cut even more of both. Also I was expecting millions deported but we only got thousands.
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u/DataGOGO 7d ago
No one is saying it is "only" about illegal immigration, it is about all immigration. If you have not noticed, the number of people getting laid off, and put out of work is increasing rapidly, and as AI adoption grows, that is only going to accelerate every year at a staggering pace. We are about to see massive increases in unemployment numbers next year. That means that the number of accepted immigrants must be reduced. That means ending all H1B, massively decreasing lottery numbers, etc.
It also means the need to radically increase enforcement of immigration laws has never been more important.
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u/Swimming_Path3353 6d ago
The problem is welfare and indiscriminate benefits.
Immigration to a place where you need to work really hard to survive and later thrive, has a positive selection bias. That’s the kind of effect that built America.
When you have people migrating to a benefit welfare state, you have the opposite effect of attracting the wrong type of people, with the opposite effect: destroying America.
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u/notmyrealnameanon 6d ago
What welfare state are you picturing, exactly, when you say 'indiscriminate benefits'? Are they coming here to abuse the free healthcare we don't have? The paid sick leave and paid family leave we don't have? Our child care, which costs more than college tuition in a lot of states? Or the at-will employment where you can be fired for basically anything?
Undocumented immigrants are barred from SNAP, Medicaid, TANF, and ACA subsidies. Even legal permanent residents face a five year wait for most federal benefits. Meanwhile, undocumented workers pay payroll taxes into Medicare and Social Security they'll never be able to collect.
If anything, the US is the opposite of a benefits magnet. It's a place with thin protections where you work long hours, often for low pay, and hope nothing goes wrong. And they do it. Your own "selection bias" argument describes today's immigrants perfectly. You just don't want to admit that because it undercuts the welfare story.
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u/rootshootsimaging 6d ago
You’re kinda making the point. “Long hours with low pay” benefits ONLY the billionaires and rich. Instead of hiring an American for a job for decent pay, they hire H1B or illegals and work them to death for less money so they become richer. And that doesn’t even take into account all the illegal trades that they get pulled into like sex work or drug trafficking.
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u/notmyrealnameanon 6d ago
Okay, so we've moved from 'they come for benefits' to 'they're being exploited by rich employers.' I'd say that's progress, because I actually agree with the second one. Wage theft, unsafe conditions, and trafficking are real problems.
But look at why employers can do it. A worker with no legal status can't report unpaid wages or an unsafe site without risking deportation, and that fear is the employer's leverage. Mass deportation threats don't remove that leverage, they strengthen it. H-1B workers have the same problem. Their visa is tied to one employer, so they can't walk away from a bad deal.
If you want to stop billionaires from undercutting American wages, then really go after the employers. Real penalties for hiring off the books, strong wage enforcement, a higher minimum wage, and work permits that let people change jobs. Make exploiting immigrants expensive, and the incentive to prefer them over Americans disappears.
As for sex work and drug trafficking, trafficking victims are exactly who we should be protecting, not punishing.
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u/EMNofWA 4d ago
First off we have all those types of benefits and definitely more of them then Mexico and guatemala.
It’s just that you as a regular wage earner don’t qualify for them, but under the table workers absolutely do.
States like California explicitly advertise all these programs in foreign languages to illegals and refuse to ask questions about nationality. Or they assign welfare to Children who are the Wong Americans and then redraw the benefit based on the child’s household. The federal bars on foreigners receiving these benefits are on paper only.
The final claim is dumb. You’re essentially saying they should exist to be exploited for social security taxes and get no benefit? How will that be a politically viable solution long term?
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u/tr3d3c1m 7d ago
The way your phrase it and the way Cato phrases it intentionally tries to make it a controversy when there isn't anything controversial about it.
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u/illonlyfadeaway 7d ago
Fuck it. I may be late to the party but I'm going MAGA...as an American tech worker finally someone addressed the one issue I care about. Been voting independent, now voting hard R this November.
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u/Windman772 7d ago
Can anybody explain why Reddit lefties hate billionaires but are also billionaire's biggest advocates for cheap labor? They complain that jobs are scarce and wages low then turn around and demand that we expand the Supply of competitive labor? Why do lefties reject accepted academic principles such as Supply and Demand?
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u/ticktocksuckthiscock 7d ago
Cause their entire worldview is based on feelings and delusions instead of objective reality
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u/Shoddy-Shift-9148 4d ago
Their next post will be complaining about not being able to afford to buy a house
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u/AyMaNShOw 7d ago
If all immigrants in the US could clear the country and guarantee their future elsewhere, i'd love to see what becomes of the country none is around to do anything anywhere in the country. U dont appreciate smtg until u lose it.
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u/ComfortableDare4305 7d ago
Legally imported labor has less rights, are open to abuse, and get less pay compared to the real market value. I think there is a place for some, but we don’t want to encourage a political underclass.
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u/DbangRule98 7d ago
Illegal immigration and vast amount of legal immigration( not all, certain groups of people with higher ratios depending on where they come from) are not negative contributors over a lifetime.
Anyone arguing about the economy when it comes to immigration should not be taken seriously. We are not an economic zone
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u/Niko13124 6d ago
turns out haveing a shotgun approach in removing immigrants from america would scare everyone else from moveing over here.
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u/Master-Tomatillo-103 6d ago
They’re the same ones that say, “I don’t mind them, as long as they come here the ‘right’ way”
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u/Frosty-Bit4667 6d ago
what the h1b was made for skilled labouere payeed , and thmost nworkeeat par , but exploited today, by the body shoppers, hiring h91b for less pay, make more money for the comapny And secondly why didnt it stop at h1b , why green cards became the big thing. Green cards should have been cautiously handed out, not to every h1b on eztension, and why this unhindered extension, after 6 years, what is now usa doing, shouls have done long back. For the americans.
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u/Beginning_Ad8663 6d ago
Except at his own properties he INCREASED H1 visa allocation at Mar A Lago. Said Americans won’t work seasonal jobs
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u/PepperTasty3025 6d ago
"Cut more illegal immigration" what the hell does that even mean? Now you guys are mad that he hasn't completed the wall? His focus is on the millions of illegal immigrants within the country. And yes, we should slow down immigration as a whole for now while we straighten the illegal immigration process out. Ooga booga big orange man bad for having his own process that isn't exactly what you hate-addled psychos expect.
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u/IndependentBorder670 6d ago
I think people say deportation is just about illegal immigration. The others are just reducing the number of legal ways to immigrate currently.
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u/Affectionate-101 6d ago
Less immigration, less government funding for those immigrants which equals less spending. This is why inflation has taken hol, I know small businesses are aren't able to hire anyone right now because there's noone around willing to take these cash paying jobs, their businesses cannot support full-time benefit earning employees.
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u/Successful_Pin4100 5d ago
Extend the graph back pre-Biden and it’s clear this isn’t a change so much as a return to normalcy
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u/Thin_Elderberry_7326 5d ago
“Normalcy” I.E only whites in huh? Why don’t we deport the whites that immigrated 100 years ago. They don’t get the scrutiny and apparently consider themselves “white natives” which is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
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u/AprilBaprilSchmapril 5d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/fDbzXb6Cv5L56
we need to stop until we get the debt and budget under control. press pause for a few years if you will
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u/GhostOfTomJefferson 5d ago
We have enough people here at the moment.
Thank you for your attention to this matter
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u/whattteva 3d ago
It was never about illegal immigration and has been, and will always be about non-white immigration, really.
Trump rallies don't talk about French or British immigrants. Their rallies talk about Mexicans.
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u/Joey271828 3d ago
With automation, AI and soon to be robotics the US does not need unskilled labor. To import unskilled labor is just importing another unemployed person that will drain safety nets.
Germany and france are proof of this. Poland is the complete opposite and is succeeding economically despite a falling population.
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u/WhambulanceWeeWoo 3d ago
After basically not having a border for four years, we kinda need to have a reset.
Trump won the popular vote on mass-deportation rhetoric. Sorry, bro.
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u/Any_Description8327 1d ago
Thank God for trump you all need to wake up! Have you seen France and other countrie with there illegal immigrants and what’s going on there? It’s bad enough Minnesota has turned into a shit hole
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