I know itâs a different show, but I just pictured Donald, Cecil, Nolan, and Debbie in The Good Place if they all were to beef it or something, thatâd be hysterical. Maybe Damian Darkblood or Satan as the manager/overseer
If weâre talking about murderous protective parents, gotta mention Joel Miller from TLoU he sacrificed the cure for humanity just to keep his adopted daughter Ellie alive.
Hell she stayed at his bedside when he was in a coma. She may be a shitty mom and admittedly does have her own shitty reasons but she loves Archer to death.
Sheâs a bad mother in the other sense. Instead of being hateful and neglectful, she overly smothers him. Plus, when your antics horrify ROGER of all people, then youâve gone too far.
Pretty sure Francine is canonically turned on by the idea of her husband killing people, so she'd be a lot more comfortable with Nolan being a Viltrumite.
In my opinion, the worst mother in cartoons is Lois Griffin.Sure, she cares about Stewie, but damn, she's so awful at Meg.Well, come on, what's your problem? Your husband is farting in your daughter's face right in front of you...And that episode where she admitted that she was the cause of her troubles and that it was all her fault, it was just awful, I donât understand the point of that episode and especially what the message was.
That's exactly it, yes. Francine is a perfect example, I haven't watched much Rick and Morty so I can't say for sure, but even from what I've seen, Beth loves her children.But Francine, with the exception of the surreal episodes, really cares for and loves her children, like the episode where she ran away... what's her name... well, in short, Velma. And Stan, well, I think he's one of the best fathers in animated series.I think Steve is even luckier than Bart.
Family Guy is a weird one because it's gotten so meta now that all the characters know they're just cartoon characters and act accordingly.
We judge characters as if they were real but if they know they're not real and none of what they do has consequences, can we still judge them as if they were real?
Some People really think that not wanting a lying mass murderer back into their life back means they are as bad as well whatever this adult animated sitcom mom's do
anyone would be so wildly traumatized by what she went through with nolan that they should never have to even SEE that person again let alone forgive them and spend time around them again
I would say maybe rejecting any chance to stablish common ground and some rules with cecil, given he is the only one that could help then with the problems that come with been a super family, but i do get why she didnt want him near her sons.
I guess technically telling Paul that mark is invincible? But even mark got over it pretty quick and thatâs nothing compared to whatever the rest of this list is doing
Itâs Lois by a mile. Debbie is a saint. Francine is actually ride or die for her kids even if she is a bit on the wild side and just a tiny bit neglectful.
Beth Smith is all kinds of fucked from being Rickâs daughter; her marriage has been a dumpster fire in its entirety that she would rather fuck an alternate version of herself than her loser of a husband. If it wasnât for Rick coming back into her life and providing some âvarietyâ in her and her kids lives she would have ended up as neglectful single mother a long time ago even if said âvarietyâ involves life threatening situations.
Lois has shown open contempt and neglect for her kids. Sheâs been in an unhappy marriage for as long as sheâs had them, tried to fuck her daughterâs boyfriend while going through a midlife crisis, slept with Bill Clinton, tried abandoning meg at a fire station, and nearly drowned stewie in a toilet bowl. She is by far the worst mother here.
Debbie is perfect except for her slight drinking problem but that was perfectly reasonable after finding out the love of your life and father of your children considers you a pet.
But I think itâs important to note that she used to be much more strict in early seasons.
So if you see it from an average viewer perspective she might have landed in the âparent who doesnât let their superhero child be a superheroâ trope.
I actually like they made her fairly reasonable through out but still open to it as the story progressed.
Itâs much more believable and also opens up more interesting character dynamics.
Best to worst: Debbie, close if not tie between Beth and Francine, then Lois. Imo, Beth is slightly better than Francine, at least in the context of the situations they get into.
I don't know much about the other 3 in their respective verse but Debbie since day one was there for Mark, something that can be a little thing but at the same time so important in life.
The worst has to be Lois because she treats Meg like trash. Meg has died and she has been like "Oh so sad, moving on ...". Beth treats Jerry (her husband) like trash, but she is a decent mom to Morty and Summer. Francine is kind of an ass to Haley sometimes, but nothing near as bad as Lois is to Meg. Francine treats Steve really well with a few exceptions.
Conclusion: Debbie is the best mom. Beth and Francine are okay moms. Lois is a terrible mom.
I thought Debbie was pretty universally liked. Like its honestly a miracle she could go through what she has and still be such a good, loving mother, and not become completely overcome by trauma and grief
Nah, for all her flaws, Beth still cares for Morty and Summer. Lois gives zero shits about her kids and actively hates one of them with the rest of the family.
It's one hundred percent lost griffin , the all the other mom genuinely try ( besides debbie she's the best mom on this list) not only did Lois allow physical abuse, mental use and emotional abuse.She does the abuse anyway
Hot take: Francine isnât that bad of a mom. Sure she is probably the most unstable, but she at least makes an effort to support her kids and husband. Itâs better than being stable and still being horrible.
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