r/Invincible • • Apr 27 '26

MEME Cecil MIGHT solo the seven

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u/DerekRayy Viltrumite Invincible Apr 27 '26

Cecil and it’s not even close. Managing super heroes and villains is all that Cecil does, whereas Stan is managing a money making product.

That being said, the GDA has a lot more tech to do this than Vought does so Cecil would have his work cut out for him

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u/Lord_of_Seven_Kings The Immortal Apr 27 '26

Cecil ran a prison from the inside I think he’d be fine

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u/andre5913 Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

I think the most important factor is the Cecil would have never allowed supes to become so wild and unchecked.

The issues Edgar has are not something Cecil would ever have to bother with bc under his command they wouldnt have risen in the first place.

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u/InsideHousing4965 Lucan Apr 27 '26

Yeah, Cecil would 100% recruit some supes with the right characteristics and form an anti-supe strike team to erradicate any who steps out of line.

The supe-killing virus? He'd put the best scientist to work on a contained version of that in case Homlander or some other supe gets too out of line too.

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u/Screen-Healthy Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

He’d absolutely “Noah’s Ark” all supes if needed and start over.

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u/Firestorm82736 Apr 27 '26

He'd put the virus in a little capsule in the supes's heads so he can remote infect them if they step out of line

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u/teslawhaleshark Ursaal Apr 28 '26

Allen: Hey king of 2-eyes, catch

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u/Nerx Robot Apr 28 '26

homie would have a bomb chip in the brain or nanite cancer

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '26

Bro was that dude with ZERO resources.

Villains were his lap dogs ffs

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u/teslawhaleshark Ursaal Apr 28 '26

Still he can’t even run Titan

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u/ThrogdorLokison Thokk Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

Vought could probably have a good chunk of the stuff the GDA has if it invested it's money into the tech instead of a stupidly lavish tower that serves no purpose other than status.

Edit: grammar

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u/Psychological-Toe397 Apr 27 '26

Technology is not that advanced in the Boys universe.

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u/Steridire Apr 27 '26

He's saying it could be. Vought has the scientific ability to make regular people immortal, to let them breathe underwater, to explode heads etc. if they put all their resources into tech like the GDA does they would have some pretty crazy stuff.

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u/lefeuet_UA The Immortal Apr 27 '26

Vought only has the watered down compound V rn. I don't remember them being able to control what supes do, they just grow up and their powers kick in and they instinctively know how to activate them

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u/Affectionate_Sir_154 Apr 27 '26

But Vought is first and foremost a pharmaceutical company, with a big history of investments into pharmaceutical RnD.

Its not as easy to just say "we're converting all of our budget into engineering today" and expecting flying cars by tomorrow

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u/khronos127 Apr 27 '26

Tell that to the flooring company(I think. But it wasn’t tech based) that just decided out of nowhere that they’re an AI company now. Stocks increased like 600’percent despite having no technology for that at all.

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u/LovesRetribution Apr 27 '26

That was a shoe company and the stocks shooting up is more a testament to the craze around AI than specific to that company.

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u/khronos127 Apr 27 '26

Tell that to the flooring company(I think. But it wasn’t tech based) that just decided out of nowhere that they’re an AI company now. Stocks increased like 600’percent despite having no technology for that at all.

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u/aDrongo Apr 27 '26

Shoe company, and the stocks plummeted after reality set it. It was nothing but a pump and dump announcement.

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u/Psychological-Toe397 Apr 27 '26

No, it couldn't.

They made ONE invention in this world that gave people Super Powers.

Everything else is the same technology we have irl.

In the invincible universe earth has satellite lasers, teleportation, cloning and robot Even Made suits that can fight Viltrumites. There's just no comparison

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u/shinsekai-kurama Apr 27 '26

Per quel che si e capito il potere che ti da il composto V e puramente casuale.

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u/blueisthecolor13 Apr 27 '26

Because Vought spends its money on vanity, outfits, concerts, and making sure their top execs make money and have everything they could need. Place that money into tech development and Vought could be way more advance.

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u/Xciv Apr 27 '26

The GDA wastes massive amounts of money, too. Cecil abuses the teleporter just to aura farm, and he's addicted to the convenience.

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u/ndetermined Apr 27 '26

Gotta spend money to get clout. Don't underestimate aura in a management position

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u/GreenDemonSquid Apr 27 '26

Eh, everyone has their vices. His is just an absurdly expensive one.

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u/ThrogdorLokison Thokk Apr 27 '26

Well yea, its already been invested in. If you dont use it every chance you get, what was the point of creating it?

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u/MassiveStrikez Apr 27 '26

No it burns money every time you use it. I think it's 5 million usd per use

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u/Odd_Ingenuity2883 Apr 27 '26

The GDA will have a budget of hundreds of billions, even trillions of dollars. 5 million per use to them would barely even register. It’s the most efficient way for Cecil to move around, so that’s what he does.

Air Force one costs 200,000 an hour to run. I don’t think 5 mill is an unreasonable cost for literally teleporting. Probably better for the environment too.

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u/Weird_Devil The Mauler Twins Apr 27 '26

Don't mess with us Invincible fans, we dont watch our own show

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u/M3rkat0r Apr 27 '26

8 billion

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u/MassiveStrikez Apr 27 '26

Wait what? No I think it was 5 million

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u/M3rkat0r Apr 27 '26

more than gdp of lichtenstein, hence already more than 9 billion

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u/ThrogdorLokison Thokk Apr 27 '26

Yea, but if you don't use it then all the money that went into developing it is completely wasted. Its a simple matter of using it gives it purpose, not using it makes it the world's most expensive paper weight.

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u/TheAngriestPoster Apr 27 '26

Vought is still just a company in the beginning, Cecil holds control over the world’s militaries and their budgets

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u/zaepoo Apr 27 '26

If Cecil ran Vought like the GDA they'd be in bankruptcy in under a year

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u/Equal-Ad-2710 Omnipotus Apr 27 '26

Also

Soldier Boy with ac jam discipline would be solid, especially with his blasts

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u/Shloopy_Dooperson War Woman Apr 27 '26

Cecil might even be able to get Homelander the help he needs to be a functioning human being.

Might even manipulate him into being a friend.

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u/Cerulean-Knight Apr 27 '26

And of course Homelander is much easier to handle, Cecil would have many plans against him

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u/Nerx Robot Apr 28 '26

also on bigger scale

vought despite being multinational mainly focus on usa

cecil got people over the globe

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u/Iristrismegistus Apr 28 '26

I think people also forget that The Boys was written as a story critical of Superheroes. (Garth Ennis hates the genre. Like genuinely - if you've read his work in superhero comics, you'll know how much he hates the medium) In contrast, Kirkman really loves superheroes. Invincible may seem to be edgy and gorey, but a lot of it is also a love letter to some really great superhero comic stories and tropes.

Stan, like the character he was based off, is just an executive who wants to make a profit. He's based off the idea the superheroes are a "bad product", a cynical way of looking at the medium. In contrast, Cecil is closer to what Nick Fury and Amanda Waller were in Marvel & DC respectively. Do they have questionable ethics and a grey moral agenda? Sure. But they get shit done.

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u/MapDesperate7012 Apr 27 '26

Stan focuses more on making a profit than he does actually managing the Seven. If he was in charge of Omni-Man, Omni-Man would have just conquered Earth right then and there since Stan couldn’t control him like he does Homelander.

Cecil, on the other hand, wouldn’t tolerate all the BS that the Seven do. A-Train wouldn’t be hooked on drugs, Maeve wouldn’t be depressed because the airplane incident would never have happened on Cecil’s watch, and Homelander would have been reined in a long time ago. Maybe he wouldn’t be a paragon of virtue, but at least he would keep his more narcissistic side in check. Cecil would be harsh on all of them.

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u/MassiveBuzzkill Ursaal Stan 👾 Apr 27 '26

Cecil would probably be able to manipulate Homelander very easily. He’d see the overwhelming need for praise and love then use that to his (and Earth’s) advantage.

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u/smurfkipz Apr 27 '26

Yeah but unlike Madeline Stillwell, Cecil doesn't produce breastmilk

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u/MassiveBuzzkill Ursaal Stan 👾 Apr 27 '26

It would be super easy to add some honkers on Donald

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u/Dark_WulfGaming Apr 27 '26

Donald's big naturals

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u/frgrefut Apr 27 '26

*Big mechanicals if he’s mostly robotic atp

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u/hyzmarca Apr 27 '26

"Sir, I would do anything to serve my country.... except that. "

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u/Arbaces Apr 27 '26

You can't spell Donald without DD.

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u/Barritar Apr 27 '26

Tbf, Cecil's probably making him go to therapy, and if he can't, he's locking in a scaled up indestructible replica of the box he was raised in.

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u/hey_uhh_what Apr 27 '26

Cecil would also have a huge stash of anti-V drugs in a billion different forms just in case

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u/bryn_irl Apr 27 '26

He'd also have even more migraines than he currently does. Poor guy can't catch a break.

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u/CaptjnurRegisClark Apr 27 '26

Cecil wouldn't have let Homelander be raised in a lab. he would have given him a specialized tutor like he did for Oliver.

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u/MassiveBuzzkill Ursaal Stan 👾 Apr 27 '26

Definitely, Cecil has more humanity in his little finger than in the entirety of Vought Corp and would have seen him as John first instead of a product. If they swapped and he inherited the mess he’d probably focus on keeping that in place for Ryan.

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u/flowerpanda98 Monster Girl May 01 '26

Idk, we saw how kate said she was raised in a similar way, and Cecil made a bad joke to Debbie about oliver where he said they paint clouds on the ceiling for superkids

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u/HelixFollower Simba Apr 27 '26

Wouldn't Cecil just see how unstable Homelander is and kill him?

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u/UnnbearableMeddler Viltrumite 'stache Apr 27 '26

Not the way Cecil does business. First he'll use him as much as possible, and only when the danger becomes imminent will he actually push the button to have Homelander killed

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u/HelixFollower Simba Apr 27 '26

I think the tricky thing with Homelander is that he has the potential to go from submissive to bloodbath in the blink of an eye due to his mental instability. It makes him very unpredictable even with countermeasures. Someone like Sinclair is much easier to handle in that regard. Keep in mind the GDA already doesn't use every villain they catch. The mauler twins for example were just kept locked up.

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u/andre5913 Apr 27 '26

Cecil wouldnt have allowed Homelander's psyche to deteriorate like that in the first place. He most likely would have had homelander raised in a loving, but supervised enviroment. He would never become the monster he is in The Boys

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u/Few_Category7829 swearing doesn't make you cool Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

He doesn't even have to have intervened/been swapped with Stan Edgar when Homelander was being raised, though if that happens he's just straight up not the same character at all and is probably an ACTUAL superman/all-might-like character, but Homelander wasn't the complete unstable monster in the main show just right out of the gate, as the Boys: Diabolical shows, even though he was always very flawed, he was trying- tenuously- to be an actual hero on his first mission. If Cecil was there around THAT point, I think Homelander turns into a fairly decent person, and can be rehabilitated from his completely traumatizing upbringing.

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u/HelixFollower Simba Apr 27 '26

That's a good point. As pragmatic as he is, he is still ultimately a good person. Just one that sometimes makes the less than heroic decisions.

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u/Pasty_Tibbles Apr 27 '26

Cecil could have probably taken care of the airplane situation without supes and just used the GDA tbh.

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u/Chemical_Cut_7089 Apr 27 '26

without a doubt. they can already solo lower tier villains, rebuild city blocks or put them into lockdown. they would absolutely run through the seven if they had to put them down too

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u/GUM-GUM-NUKE Apr 27 '26

If Cecil had Homelander from the start, he would’ve turned him into someone like Black Noir.

Homelander also would’ve been treated better, because despite his bullshit Cecil has morals and wouldn’t want to torture a child like that.

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u/c0horst Nolan Grayson Apr 27 '26

Stan might not have even cared if Omni-Man decided to take over the world. Hell he might help, as long as it caused Vought's share price to go up.

A decade long online campaign to make the Viltrum empire seem amazing by using Vought's online trolls, get the US to elect Nolan as the President, and then he just declares wars of expansion on other countries while stoking nationalism. Vought is right behind them, scooping up money from defense contracts, while Nolan unites the planet under the American flag. Thragg and the other Viltrumites show up to a population that welcomes them, and they interbreed with willing humans.

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u/Pitiful-Humor291 Apr 27 '26

Ah, a good old dystopia with corporates collaborating with Space Nazis, Breen seems much better than this

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u/matehiqu Apr 27 '26

I'm not sure whether Nolan would find the human techniques of Empire expansion impressive or pathetic

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u/BGMDF8248 Apr 27 '26

Stan would've preached submission to Omni-Man and try to make himself useful and monetize the new empire.

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u/Few_Category7829 swearing doesn't make you cool Apr 27 '26

Cecil ESPECIALLY saves the day if he's swapped in at the point of or before the Homelander Boys: Diabolical episode, because we know he was trying to be an actual hero.

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u/DisMFer Apr 27 '26

Cecil was once sent to prison and, within 2 years had that place running so well he was given the top position with the organization that sent him to jail. He'd not only control the Seven well he'd likely actually make them something close to functioning people.

Stan meanwhile would sell out planet Earth to Viltrum so fast that Nolan would honestly not even finish telling him about the offer.

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u/JayPet94 Apr 27 '26

Cecil also respects Debbie for raising Mark to be a good man, I can't see a Vought that he runs experimenting so badly on the future strongest man on the planet that he goes insane, he'd probably take the Ryan approach and try to set up Homelander with a caring mother

It's very possible Homelander is a well-adjusted man in Cecil's Vought

If he comes in late when Homelander is already crazy, it'll be harder but I still think he handles him better than Stan

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u/666Emil666 Apr 27 '26

It's very possible Homelander is a well-adjusted man in Cecil's Vought

Or at the very least has a better contingency plan than just hoping they could control him psychologically

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u/Margareine Apr 27 '26

Cecil would have known homelander is an idiot and a menace the second he would have met him.

He aslo probably would have found a way to control/kill him pretty rapidly, the same way he did for Invincible

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u/ConsciousPatroller Apr 27 '26

Within 2 days of Cecil realizing how unstable Homelander is, he gets a sonic earpiece installed and the walls of his room are secretly lined with zinc-coated uranium canisters. If Homelander tries to pull the same shit he pulled with Edgar, Cecil clicks a switch and Homelander just collapses.

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u/Margareine Apr 27 '26

Just imagine Cecil knowing about flight 37

On way or another he would have known that Homelander did something wrong, the same way he kwen about Omniman and the guardians.

Giving that poker face to homelander "yeah sure you did your best, take some rest, I'm here if you need to talk" but preparing a solution to destroy Homelander, no matter the cost

Nolan was smart enough to realise Cecil was a menace, Homelander is just a very powerful idiot

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u/Chemical_Cut_7089 Apr 27 '26

they dont really need to prepare for anything because homelander would be dispatched by a few superheroes. he's just kinda bummy

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u/Steridire Apr 27 '26

The zinc isn't the gotcha you think it is, you don't think Homelander is gonna realize "Huh suddenly I can't see through my own walls, must be zinc" immediately?

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u/ConsciousPatroller Apr 27 '26

No, he's going to see "blank" spaces where the uranium canisters will be. And being Homelander (=stupid), he'll probably assume it's a zinc-coated pipe. Nothing to worry about, after all, he's invincible, right?

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u/Str8t_chels Apr 27 '26

HL isn't a idiot, he's just naive.

Hell realise something is up because why is their zinc in a place where he normally is?

Hell likely out two and two together and confront Cecil head on foolishly, but by then, Cecil would know he knows and would apply the contingency he has for him

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u/stormy2587 Apr 27 '26

Cecil wouldn’t have made the mistake of torturing a child his entire life. Homelander would have been raised like ryan.

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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 Loves Comic and the Show Apr 27 '26

Stan would die very fast. The man thinks it’s a smart idea to insult and belittle superpowered beings who could kill him and not expect any consequences. Also, he wouldn’t be brave enough to manage things by risking his own neck like Cecil does.

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u/Carbuyrator Adam Wilkens Apr 27 '26

He also doesn't get the grace that Cecil does because Cecil isn't profit driven. Stan is not there to keep the earth safe.

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u/night4345 Apr 27 '26

The man thinks it’s a smart idea to insult and belittle superpowered beings who could kill him and not expect any consequences.

As opposed to Cecil doing the same thing to Mark? Actually Cecil does much worse and the only reason he's not paste on a wall is that Mark is a good person.

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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 Loves Comic and the Show Apr 27 '26

Cecil has contingency plans in case any of the superpowered beings want to hurt him. Stan just assumed that Homelander would always do what he told him to do.

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u/Nerx Robot Apr 28 '26

machinehead would turn stan to an italian table

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u/memerminecraft Apr 27 '26

Homelander realizing how it feels to actually help people under Cecil

https://giphy.com/gifs/a0n4MOhzZab5cz3hWi

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u/memerminecraft Apr 27 '26

Omni-man watching Stan Edgar remain calm after seeing 500 random people die for no reason

https://giphy.com/gifs/vepZGN82BUU14vp3l9

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u/BatBeast_29 Cecil Stedman Apr 27 '26

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u/cyke_out Apr 27 '26

Cecil, Amanda Waller, Nick Fury... any of them would have the 7 on lock down.

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u/Carbuyrator Adam Wilkens Apr 27 '26

Amanda Waller would get herself or other people killed. She's mostly just a worse, less successful Cecil.

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u/PlainSightMan Superman vs Omni-Man Apr 27 '26

I don't really think so. She knows how to be tricky and often makes very shady deals for her own benefit.

I'd say she's a much more successful Stan Edgar.

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u/cyke_out Apr 27 '26

Yeah she's obviously the worst amongst her, Cecil and fury. But all 3 of them are way better than anything else at vought.

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u/Mandingo_Obama Apr 27 '26

Amanda Waller can barely control D-tier metahuman rejects or her team of computer nerds. If a pencil-pushing office clerk had the balls to KO her, imagine what a psycho like Homelander would feel emboldened to do. 

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u/115_zombie_slayer Apr 27 '26

I wonder if Cecil would have Billy and the Boys under his payroll to keep things in check in secret or if he views billy as a liability

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u/Bay64 Apr 27 '26

Cecil would’ve stopped Comic Billy from going rogue, or at the least stop him before he kills most of The Boys

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u/Mandingo_Obama Apr 27 '26

He'd have Comicbook Boys on speed-dial, they were an actually competent, experienced and cohesive team. He'd def keep an eye out for Billy.

Show Boys are a gigantic liability. They're disorganized, unfocused, unreliable, sloppy and half the time can barely work together. He'd probably use them then dispose of them. 

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u/mrmonster459 Apr 27 '26

Stan Edgar was terrible at his job.

  • Was so careless with Compound V that he allowed A-Train and Pop Claw to use it as a steroid.
  • Allowed Homelander's mental state to deteriorate for years unchecked.
  • Was so shitty to Victoria (his one personal asset) that she betrayed him for Homelander at her first opportunity.

By all accounts, the only thing this man was good at was winning arguments.

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u/Mandingo_Obama Apr 27 '26

And winning arguments against people that were either really dumb, overconfident or emotionally underdeveloped. Usually all 3. 

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u/Razorray21 Apr 27 '26

Cecil Day 1

C: So do we have a contingency for if Homelander goes off the rails?

Crickets

C: well why the fuck not? Lets go people!

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u/VonDukez Conquest Apr 27 '26

Cecil would have gotten homelander therapy. He literally knows mental health is a problem for supes

Also he at least would design contingencies

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u/SuccessfulEmployee9 Cecil Stedman Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

I don't even watch the Boys but if Stan Edgar talked reckless to Nolan like he talks to HL? Forget it man.

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u/zoroddesign Apr 27 '26

The man survived an encounter with Omniman. Homelander doesn't stand a chance.

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u/DarthEinstein Apr 27 '26

Don't forget, Stan Edgar was involved with Vought for a LONG time. HE was the guy they sent to order the assassination of Soldier Boy because of Homelander's birth, he's the fundamental architect of the vast majority of Vought's entire deal. If Cecil was taking over vought instead in those early days, he would have been whipping everything into shape. Homelander would have gotten actual parenting and support, not just a lab environment designed to make him needy. He also would have gotten real training on how to safely use his powers, and other heroes that killed people would be taken out, not ignored.

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u/Successful_Basket399 Apr 27 '26

Wait, does Homelander go to the Invincible universe and Cecil oversees him?

Or does Cecil go to the Boys universe and oversees Homelander?

I think things turn out very differently depending on what scenario

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u/AardvarkRich3678 Apr 27 '26

Homeland wouldn't even be a factor in Invincible

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u/Originaltenshi Clearly I'm the Original Apr 27 '26

One reanimen would cook him lmao

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u/stefanomusilli Apr 27 '26

I only watched the first episode of Season 5, but MM, a normal ass person, manages to kill a Supe with his bare hands somehow. Supes are nothing compared to what they are in the Invincible universe, with the exception of some of the Seven. 

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u/DreadDiana Apr 27 '26

There is a range when it comes to how powerful Supes are, with some being about as durable as baseline humans, but your overall point is right: The Boys does not have anyone who should be able to give the Invincible universe trouble.

Of course, there are the occasional writing issues which could somehow make Homelander a brief threat even though he shouldn't be.

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u/Syphari Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

Cecil would literally have a FOXDIE style custom made via CRISPR virus that is genetically targeted for each of the Seven and probably inject it into all GDA/Vought employees so if they kill anyone they’d be exposed and dead before they knew blood exposure was the vector. It wouldn’t do anything to folks it’s not genetically targeting.

Hell he may even have it laced in their outfits 24/7 with an activating agent that makes it go from inert to deadly and airborne or something.

My point being they’d be under his thumb like how Amanda Waller had base charges in the back of the head of the Suicide Squad dudes lol

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u/Demonking3343 Cecil Stedman Apr 27 '26

Definitely Cecil. When he sees they are out of control He would shut that down so fast.

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u/Wooden_Climate2212 Apr 27 '26

Edgar runs Vaught like a corporation and does well. Cecil runs the GDA like a government sanctioned department of global security and does well. But they couldn't handle each others workloads so tbh just swap their hero lineups that'd be interesting

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u/Mandingo_Obama Apr 27 '26

Cecil thrived on a super-jail as a regular dude. Running Vaught would be child's play. He'd have supes turned into actual heroes or worm-food inside 2 months. 

Edgar was actually fucking terrible at his job. He's just a smug sociopath that's good at pushing insecure people's buttons, but half of Vaught's problems are directly his fault. 

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u/zaepoo Apr 27 '26

Yeah that's what I'm saying. Cecil is in the defense industry with a pretty much unlimited budget. He'd quit in a week if he had to deal with earnings reports and stock prices.

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u/UnnbearableMeddler Viltrumite 'stache Apr 27 '26

Cecil is incredibly competent at surrounding himself with competent people. If he realized money-making was necessary to keep the lights on, he'd find someone to do it for him.

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u/CJtheHaasman Apr 27 '26

Edgar would 100% figure out that omni man is a viltrumite planning on conquering the earth, and would help him do it if it meant making his company more profitable

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u/fellaneedahandpls Apr 27 '26

Cecil handles supes far better. He doesn’t make them movie stars or propaganda like Vought does. Cecil manages heroes who understand their primary objective is to protect the world because it is necessary, not because it brings fame and control like Vought does.

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u/Gekidami Apr 27 '26

Stan Edgar isn't the Cecil of The Boys universe. That was Madelyn Stillwell's job. That's why her death was a big deal; it was the beginning of Homelander becoming free to go off the rails.

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u/SpiralDesignn Apr 27 '26

Had Cecil initiated the creation of Homelander, He would have had countermeasures to neutralise Homelander if he ever snaps. He would even hire a married couple just to be parents to homie just so he wouldn't end up becoming a manchild.

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u/Kevinlevin-11 Apr 27 '26

Cecil is ending Homie in a day. He won't put up with his shit.

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u/AuntThony Apr 27 '26

Cecil's sonic Viltrumite disruptor would work numbers on Homelander; we saw that in the season 2 finale of The Boys with the nest of Vought speakers that Homelander lasers

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u/Nachooolo Apr 27 '26

Stan Edgar would be vaporised at one point or the other.

He would literally be a supervillain in the Invincible Universe. None of the main heroes would taje dhit from him.

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u/Carbuyrator Adam Wilkens Apr 27 '26

Stan might actually get murdered by a Supe for being a piece of shit.

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u/Individual-Mud262 Debbie Grayson Apr 27 '26

Stan would not survive the first conversation with Nolan.

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u/-Rapier Allen the Alien Apr 27 '26

I'm trying to imagine Stan in Cecil's role. He'd probably agree with Nolan and keep things as they are so long as he stays as the figurehead, but actually die when the viltrumites arrive and don't accept his "I can smooth things over".

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u/Vellarain Apr 27 '26

Stan does not manage Omni man at all, Cecil did not either and I have a vast amount more respect for his ability to manage super powered heroes and villains.

Cecil more than likely would have seen the dysfunction of the entire Vought franchise and more than likely would have rebuilt it from the foundations to actually serve the country and not corporate interests.

Cecil also would have bolstered the ground level support and actually had a skilled team of unpowered people with some high grade tech. You bet your ass Cecil would have had a special hit squad with V injectors on the ready if one of their heavy hitters got out of control. Imagine actually trained super killers that all got amped like Billy because Cecil would screen for their temporary traits for maxium lethality. Homelander would get humbled and terrified by Cecil right fucking quick.

So you got a guy that would funnel the money in the right places with efficiency that would make the government nervous. Have plenty of fall back measures in case shit went south, not just a premier leauge of the seven. He would also keep the supers on a tight leash, so no fucking A train drug abuse or homelander freakouts trashing his PR. He more than likely would also be making damned sure that the supes are mentally stable and have people to offer them therapy and actually help them because you dont have reliable heroes if they are having PTSD panic attacks.

The Boys simply would not happen, it would be kinda boring with the absence of drama as Vought suddenly becomes extremely competent at what it does. Who knows maybe Cecil starts to think the entire world should be under his thumb since he does not gave to deal with all the monster of the week bullshit.

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u/Obsessively_Average Apr 27 '26

If by "better" you mean making the world an overall better place and channeling the resources at their disposal towards a poaitive outcome dor as many people as possible - Cecil, but not because he is more competent (even tho he is imo)

The bottom line is that no matter what challenges Cecil would have to face, he would do his best to make the world around him better and safer, even if he fails.

Edgar as GDA director would be fucking catastrophic because he is an immoral monster. What I haven't seen anyone mention in this thread is that the moment he realized what Omniman really is about, Edgar would 100% start a plan to sell the planet to the Viltrumites in exchange for being made king of Earth or some other bullshit of that nature.

There's many ways Cecil can succeed or fail, but Edgar will invariably fail because he is a monster

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u/asexualincubus Apr 27 '26

Cecil is running a government agency. Edgar is running a pharmaceutical company. Of course Cecil would do a better job

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u/Jojo-Nuke-Isen Lucan Apr 28 '26

“Donald, humble this star spangled jackass.”

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u/Shinygoji09 Cecil Was Right Apr 27 '26

ok better question would Cecil be able to change the seven? like he did with Sinclair and darkwing 2

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u/BeautifulStretch978 Apr 27 '26

no but he would for sure have bombs in their head since they were a baby or a virus already waiting he'd probably be the reason why v1 use was discontinued

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u/stonks1234567890 Apr 27 '26

Imagine an AU where Homelander and Rex get raised together and Cecil manages to get Homelander to a somewhat healthy mental state.

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u/Belphegorkingofsloth Apr 27 '26

depends on if Cecil figures out the virus as a contingency for Homelander. otherwise he's kinda powerless against him and that'll be problem for him

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u/lightlysssalted Apr 27 '26

If Cecil was in the boys universe and he wasn't able to teleport, I think that Homelander would end up killing him

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u/BGMDF8248 Apr 27 '26

Cecil would've developed a Homelander countermeasure, and he would've activated it already.

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u/No_Communication2959 Apr 27 '26

Cecil knows how to hedge his bets. That's the difference.

If Cecil made a Homelander, it's because he already has an anti-Homelander in his back pocket and a contingency plan in his other pocket.

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u/ohyeababycrits Apr 27 '26

Thing is, the boys is just a normal world with no real supernatural threats, and Stan Edgar's only job is to make profits as high as possible. Invincible's world is full of constant attacks, conflict, and super powered beings tearing the world apart, and Cecil's job is to save the planet from destruction. The biggest threat to earth in the Boys are the supes themselves, and Stan Edgar's experience would not help him run the GDA at all. Cecil would probably have the virus made and released globally in a week, and Stan Edgar would probably not be able to handle the pressure.

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u/vvddcvgrr Apr 27 '26

I’m not too familiar with the boys but Cecil also burns a lot of money

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u/LordDedionware Show Fan Apr 27 '26

Well that depends. Are they swapping at some point after Homelander is full grown psychotic supe or do they swap at some point before that?

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u/Joshiewowa Apr 28 '26

Cecil would've raised Homelander in an actual home and had no issues

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u/TreeckoBroYT Apr 28 '26

I'm glad people are seeing Cecil's value here. He would absolutely have contingency plans for Homelander.

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u/CaptainQwazCaz Apr 28 '26

“So I made the Supe virus already”

https://giphy.com/gifs/pCJcExvbKdSeyyv8zP

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u/Therealsteverogers4 Apr 28 '26

As a United States sailor, that navy comparison is not the compliment to Cecil it is intended to be.

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u/TheOfficialSuperman Apr 27 '26

Cecil would’ve been the dad Homelander needed

Or would Cecil even create HEROS? Especially with the uhh..”history” of V?

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u/jorhey14 Apr 27 '26

So Homelander as a reanimen would Be interesting.

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u/jorhey14 Apr 27 '26

And Stan would be switching sides to the Viltrumites first chance he gets.

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u/silveraxe_kyo Space Racer Apr 27 '26

Oh definitely

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u/Jax_-Teller Viltrum Empire Apr 27 '26

Stan Edgar was tricked by a fool like Homelander, so he'll just be a fool in Nolan's plan. Cecil, on the other hand, won't tolerate a super-fool like Homelander, so he'll work to eliminate him immediately.

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u/OldPerception1573 Apr 27 '26

One satellite laser and the Homelander problem would be resolved. Then Cecil could coach Ryan into becoming an actual hero/government asset.

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u/No-Mulberry4487 Apr 27 '26

Cecil wouldve dropped a uranium cage on homelander a long time ago, hit him up with that sleeping gas, and put a bomb in his head just to keep him playing nice. Then he'd give him a gda baddy like he did with Sinclair to keep him docile

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u/PlatinumDust324 Apr 27 '26

If he had been switched when Stan joined he probably would have raised Homelander with a caring family and stuff that would have changed the course of the show and perhaps reined in Soldier Boy and that would of changed the course of the world and with Vought being under his control you know for a fact it wont be marketing the Hero's but what does Cecil do when there's no big bad or anything to fight against probably clear up the world of crime and the American agenda

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u/aninsomniac_ Apr 27 '26

Are the managers or the Superman parodies swapping places?

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u/DetectiveNumerous775 Apr 27 '26

Cecil also deals with MUCH more powerful threats and individuals.

EX: I really don't see the Seven dealing with a Thraxan invasion very well.

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u/Drummk Green Ghost Apr 27 '26

Cecil mostly gruffly berates people. That approach seems to work with guys like Mark and the Guardians, but Homelander would probably fly off the handle and laser him.

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u/Monkey_King291 Duct Tape Man Apr 27 '26

Cecil is absolutely turning the Seven into a competent superhero team, he ain't letting none of it slide

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u/Demetri124 Apr 27 '26

The Seven would be 10x more afraid of Cecil than they ever were of Homelander (who would’ve had killed immediately)

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u/ddanuu Apr 27 '26

stan doesn’t have any power over nolan. so the one thing that let him control homelander wouldnt work on nolan

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u/SasparillaTango Apr 27 '26

Cecil has contingencies.

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u/yobaby123 Nowl-Ahn Apr 27 '26

Cecil. Stan makes too much bad product.

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u/Horse625 Apr 27 '26

Cecil would be excellent at Stan Edgar's significantly easier role. He already manipulates the markets in Invincible, we just don't see it on screen because it's not fun to watch. You're telling me he gets to step down and just run a propaganda business for profit? Easy mode for him.

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u/TheAngriestPoster Apr 27 '26

Coughing baby vs Hydrogen Bomb

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u/bigdave41 Apr 27 '26

The thing is Cecil has access to any number of ways to beat some sense into Homelander - there's dozens of heros in the Invincible universe who could give him a run for his money and a few dozen Reanimen would probably beat him into paste.

Stan Edgar is dealing with basically a manchild with the powers of Superman with nothing but a cold stare and a set of brass balls.

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u/buldoze4747 Apr 27 '26

Cecil Would be soo happy Managing the seven Cuz the strongest heroes on the planet are on the team literally no one is stronger than homelander and he would not have to deal with any intergalactic maniacs conquering the entire galaxy. He would start to look young from all That Cortisol gone From his system.

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u/Iamnobody667 Thragg's hairline Apr 27 '26

If Mr Fring wasn't juggling multiple chicken fast food restaurants and running a meth empire then he could probably maybe do his job better

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u/legit-posts_1 Machine Head Apr 27 '26

Stan is no slouch, but with two big exceptions the guy makes good calls. He's not perfect, and he's certainly not a good guy, but he's deinfetly the guy saving the world.

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u/peon47 Comic Fan Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

Cecil would have had the new Boys virus on ice since s1.

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u/HugBunterIsMyDaddy Apr 27 '26

Homelander would kill Cecil

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u/bofoshow51 Apr 27 '26

Cecil manages heroes to help the world, Stan and Vought manage greedy flawed people that happen to have powers in order to make a profit. The techniques and goals are drastically different, but damn if Cecil would not be able to lock in on what each Supe wants and use it to improve the world. Stan in Cecil’s shoes loses half the heroes after a week because they aren’t greedy slime balls.

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u/TIC321 Apr 27 '26

Cecil is up to par with Batman.

Cecil has contingency plans at his disposal(as he has to in order to save Earth and humanity)

It doesn't make him unstoppable, but it does make him more prepared and incredibly intelligent

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u/holsomvr6 Monster Girl Apr 27 '26

Cecil had tech that could hurt Nolan, who is at least 5 times stronger than Homelander. Homelander would be gone after his first fuck up. Cecil would immediately discern that Homelander is unstable and probably wouldn't even try to keep him under control before going the nuclear option. Homelander is maybe Bulletproof level, so I dont see it being an issue.

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u/Elbarto1600420 Apr 27 '26

Its a pointless question. Vought is a for profit corporation. The GDA is at the end of the day a public organ that protects the population. The Interests of the organisations and therefore their leaders interests are so vastly different, it doesnt make any sense to compare them.

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u/Ni6htninja Apr 27 '26

Cecil might be permanently stressed but 50 rogue space nazis is harder to manage than one powerful manchild

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u/Mega-Humanoid-ROBOT Apr 27 '26

Under Cecil homelander would be a functioning member of society.

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u/matehiqu Apr 27 '26

I just don't think this is a good comparison at all, Edgar is in charge of a Pharmaceutical company that uses superheroes as marketing/secondary product, he doesn't even manage the heroes directly for the most part. Cecil is on charge of a governmental agency and is tasked protecting the planet and aiding superheroes.

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u/themosquito Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

Cecil could've very well curbed the entire culture of superheroes just being drug-addicted violent criminal losers. And since actual supervillains don't really seem to be a thing in the Boys universe (other than the actual "heroes"), he'd be focused on handling the heroes entirely. Edgar would've tried to just market the Invincible heroes as products but I get the sense there are enough genuinely-good and sincere heroes in the Invincible world that they wouldn't have gone along with it.

Also Cecil has countermeasures developed that don't entirely work against Omni-Man but did work against Invincible at least, and other than having laser eyes Homelander doesn't feel like he nearly measures up to Omni-Man, power-wise.

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u/TGB_Skeletor Cecil Stedman Apr 27 '26

Cecil would only have to deal with humans and there would be no extraterrestrial threat like the Flaxans, the Viltrumites, the coalition of planets...

It would be a walk in the park, he'd send Homelander to therapy in an instant

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u/Mandingo_Obama Apr 27 '26

Stan wouldn't last 2 seconds.

Stan is just a smart sociopath that is surrounded by cartoonishly stupid people so he looks like a genius. He'd immediatelly crumble the moment anyone called his bluff. He wouldn't make it past the mid-tier villains in Invincible. 

Meamwhile, Cecil has elite-level management, logistics and strategic skills, an unbreakable will, world-class manipulation abilities and complete fearlesness. He deals with world-ending threats on the regular. He'd run circles on everyone in The Boys' universe, absolute child's play.

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u/LogPrestigious6626 Apr 27 '26

Always great to see my 2 current favorite shows together