You can help prevent another camp tragedy and protect the children from floods!

The entire nation knows about the many tragic deaths at Camp Mystic during the 2025 flood of the Guadalupe River. The heartbroken grief of parents and their determination to see safety reforms for 'youth camp' businesses has motivated state officials and legislators to pass new laws.

Unfortunately, the consequences of one camp's safety failures won't be enough to encourage voluntary compliance with those laws going forward.

Even now, Camp Mystic supporters continue to argue that the owners of the camp did nothing wrong. They repeatedly claim Mystic did not have to evacuate anyone because none of the river camps evacuate.

Yes, you read that correctly.

Camp Mystic's supporters say none of the river camps ever cared about the safety of children, and they all put the lives of little kids at risk as a matter of doing business.

The National Weather Service defines Flash Flood Warnings as:

Flash Flood Warning: Take Action! A Flash Flood Warning is issued when a flash flood is imminent or occurring. If you are in a flood prone area move immediately to high ground. A flash flood is a sudden violent flood that can take from minutes to hours to develop. It is even possible to experience a flash flood in areas not immediately receiving rain.

If you ever find out that a river camp in Texas failed to evacuate during an announced Flood Warning or Flash Flood Warning then you should take action.

Report every violation immediately to the Texas Department of State Health Services (DSHS) as well as the Texas Office of the Attorney General.

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Information on how to submit reports of safety violations to DSHS is available on the state agency's website:

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/youth-camp-program/complaint-process-youth-camp-program

From now on, when the owners of a camp put children in danger, make it your responsibility to see they get shut down and face swift prosecution for putting the lives of children at risk.

Your vigilance can help prevent another disastrous loss of life and ensure laws that require safety are enforced from now on.

Forgive me if this has been discussed before but I was told the other day that the mulched organic material was taken somewhere near San Antonio.

Seemingly unrelated, I bought some Hill Country Fair Potting Soil the other day which I had to redistribute for my originally planned use because it’s completely full of large pieces of uncomposted mulch. There are all kinds of wood debris in there from chipped wood, root material, and twigs. As I’m angrily sorting through the unwelcomed giant pieces of wood pieces in my soil that I initially planned for root vegetables, I remembered something I had heard about the mulch from the July 4th flood being shipped to Bexar County, I stopped what I was doing and said “Wait, is this…no…did I just buy this crap imposter soil harvested from my own back yard?”

I did a little more research and on top of the reports that flood debris was chipped and transported to the San Antonio area, I’ve also seen claims that New Earth and Second Nature Compost(both in Bexar County) received some of that material. Both companies manufacture commercial compost, mulch, or soil products. Coincidentally, although I couldn’t find where the HCF Potting Soil is sourced from, I did find that the New Earth brand sells the organic soil mix sold at HEB that I actually have at my house. So yes I bought soil derived from debris my family signed away for someone to take away for free to “help”. Meanwhile the acres and acres of gravel with no top soil sit by my house.

For a few reasons I do regret allowing the non profits to remove the wood debris from our land. One of the reasons I hesitated was because everyone so desperately wanted a sense of normalcy again but yeah, it’s not. This years July flood was devastating to nearby areas because of no top soil. Ours was damaged but not as significantly as nearby neighbors.

I can kind of understand the state wanting to make some of its money back for the enormous costs of the flood but then at the same time, that seems unethical.

Furthermore, I know local farmers and ranchers asked to use some of that material and they were told no because it wasn’t safe. But somehow it’s safe enough for me to buy, put my hands in it, and grow root vegetables out of it for my dinner table? 😡

I have so many questions….

- Can these things be verified?

- Where was the mulch taken?

- What was paid for the mulch?

- If it was safe enough to put into bags and sold to the public, why wasn’t it put back on the river banks where it is desperately needed?

- Do these companies that revived the mulch have political ties?

- Do these companies that bought the mulch make financial political donations?

I love HEB but if I find out that HCF “Potting Soil” came from the flood I’m going to be very disappointed, even more disappointed than I already am that businesses might actually be profiting off of our tragedy.

Does anyone know what will become of Casa Bonita? Will property owners be allowed to rebuild? Will the property be condemned (not sure if this is the right word)? Are there any lawsuits pending which include any of the Casa Bonita homeowners as plaintiffs?

Can someone explain this argument to me? I routinely see the pro-Mystic folks suggesting that somehow h27 is insensitive to the other fams who lost loved ones in the floods.

One example is below, but there are dozens of them. The implication is that by suing the people who they believe could have kept their daughters safe or seeking new safety requirements, the H27 families are somehow blocking other areas of inquiry. Even sillier is the idea that by using public support and sentiment as tools in their efforts, they are taking something away from other tragedies on or off the river.

From a Facebook comment posted this week:
Immense compassion and love for the grieving families, not only for the 27, but for all 140 souls who perished. Compassion and support for all grieving, including survivors and first responders, rescue and recovery. All stories deserve to be heard. So many have been driven to silence their grief because the H27 machine demands all the focus.
The H27 machine is well staffed with a publicist, paid influencers, lobbyists (some with their own agenda), and attorneys who are twisting truth to fit a false narrative unfairly demonizing one family. While not all families under that umbrella agree or participate, H27 has become a fire ball of untamed rage that leaves no room for compassion. You either rage with them, or you are deemed to be against them. If you grieve for anyone else, your pain is denied. Your story doesn't count or matter to the machine. By controlling the narrative calling the a Mystic flood, there are those unaware that 113 othe lives were lost that night.
You cannot have a complete investigation without exploring all of the facts, including especially the actual flood - which has been labeled an inland tsunami. When 140 souls died, 119 in Kerr County alone, the investigation must include all of the residents, camps, and businesses along the river. Must include the survivors, witnesses, first responders, othe camp directors, business owners where people were sleeping to get the whole picture. Focusing on one place, after showing glowing support of their bravery from Trump, Abbott, Cruz, Cornyn, and especially Patrick, raises more than an eyebrow.

The Eastlands are good people. Their quiet contributions don't make for catchy headlines. The thousands of stories of how Camp Mystic was key to their growth in character and leadership, and whose values shaped our lives for the better. Even some of the moms have shared their great memories of camp.
The loss is unimaginable. Unfreakingimaginable. Unimaginable for all "sides".

I am sick to death of Mystic Alum supporting the Eastland's to the moon and back. They want to blame everyone but their beloved friends for the reason that 27 children are dead to the point of making these types of posts public on social media.

From the public page of a "Mystic Alum":
I'm going to be crystal clear here.
I'm listening in to the bankruptcy hearing for Mystic.
If you have any doubt about the intentions of the Heaven's 27 creditors committee, note the amount of time that their attorneys are using to try to establish how "shocking and nefarious" it is that the Eastland Family should be demonized for continuing to live in thier own houses and use their own cars while in bankruptcy. They claim the Eastlands are so cruel and cold and uncaring.... while completely disregarding that they all lost their homes and a family member as well.

This should tell you everything you need to know about how they have long ago passed the line for "grief" and are firmly in the territory of vengeance. This is a group of parents who are throwing cocktail party fundraisers in their gajillion dollar mansions gleefully instructing their attorneys to try to demonize the Eastlands for continuing to (checking notes) use their cars, even though in one of the filings they have said they will gladly pay for whateever should be owed on this, as well as any utilities or rent that is determined to be owed.

These attorneys have completely lost the right to lecture ANYONE about who is really tone deaf here.

They have also lost the moral high ground on who is at the heart of the acrimony.

I get it... because they want to make sure they get EVERY PENNY they believe they deserve (and can we note that at this time we still have NO IDEA how much they "deserve" or are even entitled to), it's important to characterize the Eastlands as freeloaders for (checking more notes) using their cars to take their kids to school.

There is a huge picture here, but yes, let's please hear more about how shocked and offended we should all be that a 72 year old woman who lost her husband, her home, and now her business, should be characterized as a "freeloader" for living in - not a home - an infirmary on the campgrounds.

They would only be happy if the Eastlands were living in cardboard boxes under an overpass.

Of course, what you'll hear in the media will be the type of pearl-clutching clickbait that fits with the narrative of the higher paid publicist...

Decency and shame are out the window with these people. This is what comes from believing your own press releases.

#judgechrislopez

Now official

- stay lifted next month

- there are indeed motions from the defendants to transfer the liability lawsuits to federal district courts; those have to be decided

- from there everything can proceed, including lawsuits against individuals (injunction that debtors asked for denied); mentions explicitly those lawsuits against the individuals estates; judgments against debtors (which dont include the individual estates) have to be collected within the bankruptcy (which makes sense as LLCs will be liquidated by everyone admission)

- bankruptcy and liquidation of LLCs rolls on...trustee decision between now and monday

In 1956, her father planned to run for president. She attended Camp Mystic.

What time will it start? Will audio be available and, if so, how to access it?

* = unless it's the parents of dead children we're talking about, in which case, go ahead and accuse those grieving parents of "hateful & repugnant vitriol" for daring to ask why their children died in a flash flood, during a National Weather Service flash flood warning, at a riverside camp located in the middle of Flash Flood Alley. The nerve.

Reading the words of these Mystic minions (& an Eastland relative to boot!), you'd think it was Heaven's 27 that needlessly got a bunch of kids killed & not the other way around...

I will never understand the mentality of people that deem it acceptable to go after grieving parents. The casual cruelty towards those suffering the deaths of their children - it just makes my stomach churn.

So what we learned yesterday

- wrongful death lawsuits can proceed, sent back to state court (remember hearing "they can never be sent back to state court"?)

- collection against the 4 llc from said lawsuits has to wait for bankruptcy which is standard (likely organized liquidation, so makes sense)

- the lawsuits include the individuals and if individuals are liable then there is nothing stopping collection against them (debtors admitted that in their own filings, especially in case of gross negligence)

- we shall see decision on trustee week after

- becoming increasingly clear why debtors started panicking and offering all sorts of concessions right before this...last ditch efforts to get better outcome

https://kerrcountylead.com/5-things-we-learned-from-the-nearly-12-hour-camp-mystic-bankruptcy-hearing/#google_vignette

For those that watched the proceedings.. did any particular arguments or individuals stand out to you? Why?

The Houston Chronicle has a series of letters to the editor about Camp Mystic today. One is from a Mystic mother who thinks that critics just want to "destroy Mystic altogether." Another letter is from a reader who wants to destroy camp Mystic altogether.

“The problem is, the bankruptcy process is governed by statute and governed by case law. And the objective of the sale of the land is going to be to ensure the highest and best offer. It’s not to provide therapy. That’s not what the bankruptcy process does.”