Uhh no because if you look at competitions (hosted in and by Europe) the US is consistently the majority of the top ten and usually the top three as well. Mind you we have access to said cheeses as normal people btw
maybe lol we've been programmed with clever real california cheese commercials for at least 30 years. as well as states like wisconsin, who have a well known cheese reputation here
I think there is something about them that makes them forget everything and anything around them when they see an âUSA yeah baby đŠ đŠ đŠ !!!â Answer which forces them to press it.
true education and maturity means learning "how to think" by choosing to be a little less arrogant. This requires active mental discipline to recognize that a huge percentage of what we feel "automatically certain of" is often flawed, biased, or completely wrong. If I were you, I'd try and be more interested, rather than judgemental.
Iâm not American but I do love cheese, and Iâve had some very good cheese in the US. Itâs so very easy to tell whoâs never actually visited or cared to find quality products.
The comments on this page are reminding me of the time I took my sister's Parisian boyfriend on a tour of chesemakers in northern California and straight up blew his mind. Such adorable ignorance you display.
I think you're right about hard cheeses but I'd put Gorgonzola and Roquefort on the same level. I'd say France's edge is in the semisofts like Brie and Camembert
Guaranteed you donât have a place like Wegmans or HEB in your country. The US has tons of fancy ass cheese, most major grocery stores have endless fresh cheese of all varieties behind refrigerated glass that you can pick out and have weighed. Sliced and shredded cheeses are just a few types from an endless cheese selection.
We have a lot of problems, but a lack of selection and variety of good food is not one of them.
Supermarkets? Your supermarkets are not actually cheese mongers. They have fancier cheeses than most Americans are used to but you need to actually go to specialty shops.
America has a ton of dedicated cheese and charcuterie shops. I have one minutes from my house that has essentially nothing but cheese, meats, wine, and various cheese plate snack items like bread, dried fruit and nuts
A large grocery chain (Kroger) bought Murray Cheese Shop, a cheese monger, and now has what are essentially branches of that shop in their stores. That means I have ready access to a variety of cheeses from both Europe and the US.
I meanâŠwe have tons of specialty shops for really well curated cheese selections, but even regular grocery stores carry a pretty wide array of rather nice domestic and foreign cheeses.
Not really true. Just like standalone butchers in America are rare, so are cheesemongers and fishmongers. Why? Because we integrated them into our grocery stores decades ago to simplify the shopping experience. You go to one place and get all your food needs met rather than having to go shop at a half dozen different places.
Cheese tasting competitions are 99% marketing, as are other taste competitions. There are so man of them because producers finance their own so they can win one
Nobody in Europe eats them because the US doesnât export the good cheese. Much like European countries donât export their good cheeses to the US - European cheese in the US is all mass market grocery store brands.
Uk is missing as well. As much as i like shitting on UK their cheese are very good. I means those things are so stupid, italian cheeses are not worse or better than the french ones, they are different and used differently. You would have to be insane to prefer camembert in your pasta to parmeggiano. Camembert still rocks.
We always do shit in cheese rankings for some reason. Cheddar is better than people pretend but we have banging options for most varieties. People slamming US cheese is a bit silly cause kraft slices are obviously shit but there's some pretty good stuff coming out there
Gouda is the shit we export and nobody eats that shit in NL, go to a Dutch cheese shop and you will find so many good hard cheeses. The US being on the list and not NL is insane.
There's a thing called American Cheese which is a pretty crappy blended cheese, but then there's cheeses made in America, which are as diverse in style as anywhere on earth and capable of being exceptionally good.
Look, I grew up next door to Americaâs dairyland. We have amazing cheese in the USâŠ. Which is seldom exported and generally stays in a tri-county area of hyper localized distribution. Sort of like our beer.
Thereâs little chance folks around the world know of the options that exist here, and quite frankly, I would be surprised if there were average, everyday Americans who are aware of a lot of these local varieties.
The European countries listed here have amazing international distribution of their top of the line products. With all that said, I donât think itâs fair to place the US here and not the UK. No one is going to be aware of the stuff going on in Wisconsin outside of midwesterners and everybody loves cheddar.
Agreed, criminal not to include the UK.
I'd love to try some of the good stuff you talk about. Although I was kind of traumatised as a child in the US but we won't dwell on that đ
The good stuff here is in Wisconsin in my experience. I swear you can find local varieties at a gas station there. Thereâs just a crazy amount of variety, to the point that some of it is bound to be amazing.
I forget the name, but my favorite was a deep orange hard cheese. I wish I was better at describing cheese past âit was really good.â
What is this red stuff in the middle? Looks a lot like Brazilian goiabada (guava sweet), which we often eat with cheese, but I donât think it is, is it?
That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a long time. US would be like 5th (7th at worst) in reality. There is some amazing cheese in the US.
They're no match for France, Italy, Netherlands or UK. (I'd put them 5th behind those countries) But still have cheese that wins international competitions somewhat often
Redditor who thinks Antarctica (and can't spell Antarctica despite the fact that Reddit would have highlighted it as wrong) is a country is also ignorant about other subjects. Imagine my surprise.
I'm gonna have to go with England since they invented cheddar
I would have chosen Italy because of parmesan and mozzarella. But then I was in Italy and got to try more Italian cheeses. Most of them I did not like but oh dear... it was called something like 'Picorino' I think it's from goats... I regret I will never be able to unexperience that
I ran a cheese shop that only sold Wisconsin- made cheeses. The diversity of what I sold was stunning and represented both local and international cheese styles. We had goat, sheep, and cowâs milk cheeses. Soft cheeses, hard cheeses, alpine cheeses, goudas⊠you name it. Most of it was made within 100 miles of my store. There is a reason that European cheese makers come here when they want to set up US operations, namely we have great milk.
Most of the cheeses I sold are not widely distributed nationally much less internationally. I think in NYC, they probably get out Pleasant Ridge Reserve, Marieke Gouda and a handful of others. Youâre probably only getting our shitty cheese wherever you are.
Oooh you should try some Irish milk! The dairy over here is pretty incredible. Best part of an Irish Coffee isn't the coffee or the whiskey, it's the fresh County Kerry cream!
I'm sorry to say that my family had a terrible time there in the 17th century and we haven't been back. Just kidding, (though it happens to be true). Personally, I'd love to visit some time. I don't think I've had milk from County Kerry, but I've had some butter from there that was quite tasty.
Come visit. Stop by the Tullamore D.E.W. distillery for a tour (buy online ahead of time, it's scheduled and limited), and they'll give you an Irish coffee as the first taste. Ask where the dairy comes from, they'll point out the window at the dairy farm down the road. Not County Kerry (it's County Offaly), but still delicious.
Or come to Dublin and have a Belfast Coffee at Bar 1661 - you get amazing Irish dairy AND you get to try poitĂŹn!
I love how dipshits who don't know how to find a specialty cheese counter in a grocery store think that they seem cultured. You don't even know how to properly navigate to the good cheeses and I'm supposed to think your opinion is worth anything? Lmao
Yeah what is with all the comments claiming that good cheese in the US is localized solely around Wisconsin? I donât deny that Wisconsin makes some of our best cheese, but my mid Atlantic grocery store chain has a âpremiumâ cheese section of the open display fridges with hundreds of varieties of cheese from around the world and Wisconsin. The same store also has the deli counter to get your lunch meat cheese and the Kraft singles and their ilk are in the dairy section with the over a hundred different packages of sliced, shredded, and grated âbasicâ cheese.
Iâm not hurting for any kind of variety and Iâm not exactly in Wisconsin or Europeâs backyard. With a little more effort I could easily find more specialty cheeses/shops within a reasonable drive. And I live in a âSparse Suburbanâ semi rural boundary area 1.5 hours from the nearest major city. So itâs not like everyday Americans are having a problem getting a variety of high-quality ingredients if they have any interest in doing so.
The funniest part is that all these European nations that tout he world's best cheeses are roughly the size of Wisconsin so even if it were true it'd be a pretty even matchup
Jaysus, there's like 80+ in Dallas alone. I've been all over the world and I live in Ireland now, and the beer over here pretty much totally sucks.
Sure, there's occasional exceptions - Ambush Juicy IPA is pretty good, Guinness is Guinness, Beamish is a good stout, and so on - but broadly the beer selection pretty much everywhere you go is the same shit ten piss beers. Fucking Moretti is NOT GOOD BEER. What's next, Heineken and Carlsburg? BORING.
Having moved to Europe from America, I can confidently say that the beer and cider in the US is, with a few notable exceptions, infinitely better than the horsepiss served in most pubs in the UK and Ireland, and at bars in Spain and France.
Y'all got some great cocktail joints though, I'll give you that one. Little Red Door in Paris has this rhubarb concoction that's fecckin delightful.
Quit being ignorant. We've got tons of passionate people who take their craft very seriously. Try something that wasn't made by a megacorporation and you'll shocked at how wrong you are.
Thereâs great cheese here, but much like our beer, itâs generally only produced for local distribution. I think we have amazing cheese here but because basically none of the good stuff is exported, itâs pretty foolish to include the US in this poll.
Iâm not going to be upset or indignant that folks donât know some variety thatâs distributed in the tristate area surrounding Wisconsin. But not including the folks who invented cheddar? Thatâs criminal.
Hard to say, really, because they can be so varied in so many categories, like, cream cheese, mozzarella, and feta are all classified under the same category, yet are so different. Feta might be my favorite, but parmesan and mozzarella are really good too.
"I'm going to be cool and jump on the anti-American bandwagon on the internet and assume that a nation of 350 million people the size of the entire European Union that produces enough food on its own to feed the entire planet only has Kraft Singles for cheese!"
French cheese is ass, i tried good authentic brie and Camembert and they tasted bad. Dutch cheese and German cheese are the underdogs that should be on top. Gouda, bavarian emmental and alpine cheese.
For me its british, then french then italian then netherlands.
I am a british cheese monger i specialise in british cheese but used to specialise in french cheese.
And honestly we are starting to beat them at their own game, the french are very much traditionalists while the artisan cheese industry in the uk only really restarted in the 80's (with some major exceptions, montgomary for one), so we tend to be more willing to experiment leading to some fantastic new cheeses from small produces.
Not including the UK is insane, they're probably the second best cheese makers behind Italy. Putting French cheese over American cheese is criminal. I don't know how the French convinced the world that their rotten carrion smelling bullshit was special.
I answered that under another comment i think, but basicly i made this poll in the middle of the night while my Melatonin gummies were hitting and Just thought about which cheeses i had so fsr in my life and added them in the poll
Completely forgot the UK even exists during that process
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u/pupappau 11d ago
Americans are joking, right?