r/Marathon • u/TotalSoft4931 • 9h ago
Marathon (2026) Feedback Open up ranked !
I’d rather spend 10 minutes waiting for a ranked game than use my good loot in outpost. Feels pointless farming all the gear from cryo with nowhere else to use it.
Literally done hella keys and stomped some green/blue teams in outpost, perim and dire marsh. How is this a good idea for anyone?
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u/Over_Direction4885 8h ago
Removing ranked was just such an awful idea in the first place. Totally wrecked the endgame loop and offered literally nothing in return except an extra day of cryo. Hard not to feel like they’re just completely out of touch with the playerbase given this and the recent changes they announced.
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u/shortstopryan 8h ago
It’s abundantly clear they considered the current state of the game a failure and aren’t really concerned about what the current tiny playerbase wants, they’re looking to change the game to something that appeals to a wider audience. I don’t think it’s really a secret at this point. Whether it works or not, they are prioritizing making the game more accessible and less sweaty bc there’s not a lot to gain by just going the route of making small adjustments to keep 10k people happy.
That said I’m not sure what harm it would have done to just leave ranked in until December instead of removing it since not a lot else has changed. Only thing I can think of is trying to push the playerbase to only a few diff options for queue time reasons
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u/Dauntless_Light 6h ago
Ranked has a different loot pool for quality of loot, they want an experiment this gap to see how loot progression feels.
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u/Over_Direction4885 8h ago
Yeah, but they’re wrong to think so. The game absolutely works, it was marketed poorly and it’s unclear whether or not there was a market for it in the first place. Making it into a lowest common denominator PvE slopfest won’t bring in new players, the numbers barely even move when VB is up. Like Sony said in their earnings report, the retention of those 10k people is insane, myself included. The smart move would be to make the core game more accessible, not move away from it.
But yes, removing ranked makes zero sense. Queues are fine and if anything ranked made day marsh and perimeter get played more, not less. Atm the game is just cryo/outpost/sometimes night marsh simulator which really sucks
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u/ChuyChavez 7h ago
Holy cope dude, the marketing did a number on the game but it’s been like 9 months. There was never a market for this game because there is no market for a $300 million dollar extraction shooter. There’s barely a market for extraction shooters in the first place. This game desperately needs to become an FPS with and extraction mode rather than just a straight up extraction game. If the marketing truly mattered then arc raiders would have retained wayyyy more players.
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u/UndercityCuckster 5h ago
No… You’re wrong on every front here. Listen man, I love Marathon, too, but this game needs to change significantly in order to be more broadly appealing and the depth of retention that we, the odd 30-50k DAU players on this game have doesn’t matter unless we’re converting our playtime into MTX purchases.
Think about it, this whole Nightfall Reboot is basically them turning the live servers into a test environment so Bungie can figure out how to balance the pvpve extraction mode and make it less painful for the new influx of pve players that will come try the game in December and March. The Ranked endgame loop simply doesn’t work for them, and the last thing you and I want is for those players to bounce off the game. Because if they can’t get an invested pve audience we don’t get more marathon updates.
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u/MuddleWard 2h ago
Yep with you on this. I think they have mixed two games here to be honest, BR and Extraction. Nobody does any PVE until its safe, and then with the exception of compiler its trivial to do all of it as a Trio. In my experience, people that do ranked just do the BR bit of it and don't bother doing PVE to get additional credit cap, they're just in it for the PVP gear and arent trying to maximise their rank gain.
So many cryo crews ive gotten in with dont seem to push their progression, for many, getting the compiler trace and some shotguns from lockers is all they go for because they havent the time to farm 06 keys and are missing their sub routine to ever play their DNA cards.
If you watch the worlds first compiler kill it actually looks like a really intense PvEvP game, but watch a streamer do compiler now and they're just completely fixated on lobby wiping.
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u/BigMikeXxxxX 3h ago
It's been confirmed that the daily active users sit around 50k on average across all platforms. If you consider that tiny then more power to you I guess.
The ACTUAL issue, if anyone cares, is the fact that they spent 250 million dollars in development and haven't recouped even 1/3 of it.
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u/TotalSoft4931 8h ago
Yup, feels like they’re abandoning the people who play daily to attract PvE players who aren’t even playing the game.
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u/Over_Direction4885 8h ago
I hate to say it but I don’t think this leadership has any idea what they’re doing. The changes are 50% just implementing whatever bullshit people say on reddit, then 50% literally random choices no one asked for. I don’t think they realize that the people screeching about spawn rushes on cryo have probably never even opened a vault, much less done compiler or ranked. They’re cultivating the wrong audience. Improving the competitive experience would be much smarter.
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u/David-J 8h ago
You're clearly not seeing the big picture
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u/Over_Direction4885 8h ago
Which is? Why are you being condescending instead of explaining your reasoning
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u/David-J 8h ago
It's not condescending. Did you watch the latest vid doc! Everything is explained there. The game needs to be more and all the changes, which are great, are so Marathon can live.
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u/Over_Direction4885 7h ago
“You’re clearly not seeing the bigger picture” is textbook condescension lmfao. I did see the vidoc and there aren’t really any changes even mentioned in it. It’s almost exclusively just showing off future content, not balancing. My comment was specifically addressing the shipped/future balance changes as of late, all of which have been abysmally stupid. I still don’t understand your point, though, I don’t know what “more” means. Marathon is very much alive and it will thrive if they recognize what makes the game great and improve on it.
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u/David-J 7h ago
It's condescending but whatever.
Extraction mode is not enough for Marathon to survive. Being so punishing is not helping the game. Hence all the changes and the new modes coming. Adding depleted heals, self revives, more ammo, buffing up the loot, etc etc. Plus the news modes, Rook safe pocket. All of that is making the game less punishing, better and adds more ways to play.
Put everything together and Marathon should be in a much better place.
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u/J-Dawgzz 8h ago
Hard agree here, we are literally propping up the game right now, come January when the PvE babies get bored of Sybmiosis, it'll be us PvP folk holding up the game again..
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u/ChuyChavez 7h ago
Bruh the PvP people are 100% not holding up the game. It’s been sinking deeper and deeper with every passing month. You PvP people are nowhere near enough. You’re not what’s holding the line. Sony and their desperate need for this game to succeed is what’s holding the line. And they will do whatever it takes to make that so even if that means grabbing all the PvP players and drowning them to cater this game to whoever will make them the most money. How are you not self aware enough to see this
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u/J-Dawgzz 6h ago
PVE babies bring in an extra 400ish players. Not amazing in the grand scheme of things. We are 100% holding up the game pal, we are the DAU who return every single day, not PvE players who play a few hours of Vault Breaker a week.
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u/LOOKaGorilla 37m ago
It’s pretty clear based off of Bungies actions that the current playerbase is not what they wanted lol. It sucks, but you are not the demo they want returning.
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u/Over_Direction4885 8h ago
The PvE babies barely even move the needle on the player count, I have no idea why they’re catering to them so hard. I get more and more depressed with every new tweet/blog post. Better matchmaking? Good balance changes? Economy balance? Nah, here’s the worst rook change humanly conceivable and also the worst possible cryo change. Also we nuked two guns no one was complaining about and made hit registration worse. See you in December!!!
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u/TreyChips 8h ago
Legitimately such a stupid decision, Bungie being Bungie.
It needs a rework, agreed, but there is literally not a single upside to removing it whilst they rework it for December. There is literally nothing else to do in the game if you don't enjoy Cryo and I'm already getting bored with the refresh when I WANT to still be playing.
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u/J-Dawgzz 8h ago
Same this refresh is really weird. It's week 2 and I'm more stacked than I was before reset.
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u/RidgeMinecraft 7h ago
I imagine the reason for the temporary removal is queue health for the other maps over weekdays. That'd be my guess
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