Morality of exterminating dangerous breeds of an otherwise tamed species?

[u/Hro20k]

Dangerous to people, and not just having a better build/jaw strength etc. And also this particular breed(s) are the only dog breeds to have a lobby protecting them in the west btw

[u/KendroNumba4]

Anecdotal

[u/CriticismVirtual7603 → u/KendroNumba4]

Anecdotal, but also factual

The pits that Michael Vick used for dog fighting were rehabilited into emotional support dogs

There is a lot of negative propaganda that goes into painting pits as violent aggressive dogs, but studies show that they are no more aggressive than poodles, labs, golden retrievers, and chows if all receive the same training.

In fact, the dogs that are seen as being the most aggressive are almost all small breeds. Chihuahuas, dachshunds, and Jack Russels are among the most aggressive, with the most biting incidents among all dog breeds

Train your dog well, and you will not have a problem with your dog unless someone else decides to make it a problem.

[u/NextRefrigerator6306 → u/CriticismVirtual7603]

Even a “well trained” dog wouldn’t leave alone with a small child.

[u/Hammermancer → u/NextRefrigerator6306]

a well trained owner doesnt leave a dog alone with a small child for the sake of both

children are known to cross boundaries with dogs

and human children are exceptionally fragile, what a dog would do with another dog to correct it can cause serious injury or death. thats not aggression, its correction. if you know anything about animals you know they're not the same

[u/NextRefrigerator6306 → u/Hammermancer]

We agree with each other. Dog attacks don’t come as a result of “good” or “bad” dogs or “well trained” or “poorly trained” dogs. They result from irresponsible owners.

[u/CriticismVirtual7603 → u/NextRefrigerator6306]

So, the issue is the owners, for leaving the dog alone with the child, not the dog's fault for being left alone with the child?

Thank you for agreeing with me

[u/KendroNumba4 → u/CriticismVirtual7603]

That's crazy because I could leave my cats with a child and everything would be fine

[u/AdversarysVengeance → u/CriticismVirtual7603]

Nobody is dieing from a Chihuahua bite. It is a mix of the aggression and the ability to actually do harm that makes a pit bull dangerous.

[u/CriticismVirtual7603 → u/AdversarysVengeance]

"Mix of aggression"

Pit bulls aren't particularly aggressive, which has been the entire point of this conversation.

Chihuahuas have caused severe injury, and were involved in two deaths, but they are mong the most aggressive dog breeds out there.

Train your dog well, and you will not have aggression issues in your dog unless someone wants to make it their problem.

[u/AdversarysVengeance → u/CriticismVirtual7603]

2 deaths lol there have been close to 100 deaths due to pit bulls in peak years ….

I will agree with you dog training would solve a lot of this but there is a stereotype to people that buy these dogs as much as the dogs themselves. Personally I want the owners of any dangerous animal held accountable for its actions and don’t even blame the dog I blame the idiot that bought the animal.

[u/CriticismVirtual7603 → u/AdversarysVengeance]

You did say no one dies to Chihuahua bites

Yeah, pitbulls lead all statistics in fatalities, because they were bred to be guard dogs. They are, pound for pound, some of the strongest breeds out there.

But the discussion wasn't about deadly, it was about aggressive.

Pitbulls are not overly aggressive compared to other breeds even comparable in size to them, but they are deadly because they were bred to be deadly.

But, like any other dog, they can be trained to be as aggressive as possible, or not. It is 100% on the owner to make sure they train their dog properly.

[u/AdversarysVengeance → u/CriticismVirtual7603]

The thing is only a small percentage of the owners of these animals are training them properly so the general public has to suffer for their poor decisions. Looked up those 2 deaths you mentioned and supposedly other dogs were involved in those incidents and not just 1 animal.

[u/Hammermancer → u/[deleted]]

Because officially recognized pitbulls are only 10%,
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dog bite reports dont properly categorize the breed, anything from a mastiff to a boxer will be called a pitbull based on the random, unqualafide person calling the dog something,

The traits people are looking for to call something a pit are also the exact same traits your mind would exaggerate when perceiving something in a time of stress with a creature that is effectively a subspecies of wolf (Big mouth, strong)

Those "10% of the dog population" of pitbulls are often owned by the exact wrong people, because they are in the same unfortunate category as Huskies or great pyranese where they are Vanity dogs that are often poorly taken care of by idiots who use them as fashion accessories

The 10% number isnt even well founded, most pitbull owners dont declare their dogs at pitbulls, because of insurance and housing reasons.

[u/CriticismVirtual7603 → u/[deleted]]

More than half of the reported fatalities, yes (of which there are between 30 and 50 a year)

Meanwhile of the 4.5 MILLION attacks per year, the overwhelming majority of them come from smaller breeds, and border collies, Chihuahuas, Jack Russells, and Labradors lead the percentages.

Train your dog well, no matter the breed, and the risk of any kind of attack goes down.

[u/Hammermancer → u/KendroNumba4]

Most evidence is ancedotal, the dismissal of ancedotal evidence is peak reddit ignorance

According to the ancedotal evidence arguments, men never get sexually assaulted and the CIA never did anything wrong

[u/WinterAdvantage3847 → u/Hammermancer]

we have data about male victims of sexual assault. we have ample material historical evidence of and data on the cia’s reign of terror. the plural of “anecdote” is still not data