r/Music • • Sep 14 '26

music Macklemore - Otherside [Indie Hip Hop]

https://youtu.be/fvDQy53eldY?si=Aduz11cA_m-Gv_9k
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u/deja_geek Sep 14 '26

It's Macklemore & Ryan Lewis. Put some respect on Ryan Lewis' name. He's the one that brought the polish and gravity to Macklemore's songs.

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u/rorschach_vest Sep 15 '26

I didn’t even know Ryan Lewis was Polish.

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u/pink_faerie_kitten Sep 15 '26

In Chicago, "bringing the polish" would mean you brought a polish sausage. And now I'm hungry.

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u/losthope19 Sep 15 '26

Moved downstate a few years ago and can't find a decent polish sausage anywhere except sniffies 😤😤 I miss Chicago's food scene

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u/ShowOff90 Sep 14 '26

Macklemores stuff really did go down after he & Ryan went their separate ways. was always curious why they didn’t stick together.

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u/bedteddd Sep 15 '26

Money. It's always a money thing. Creative differences. But mostly money.

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u/HonkPopovski Quobuz Sep 16 '26

They made a skit 4 years ago lol.
I ran into Ryan at the store

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u/ashtonpar Sep 15 '26

Ryan Lewis was really a prick and has faded away because of that bad attitude

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u/TakeItCheesy Sep 15 '26

What’s the scoop?

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u/deja_geek Sep 15 '26

The music world is littered with faded pricks with bad attitudes. Doesn’t mean they deserve any less credit for their works.

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u/ashtonpar Sep 15 '26

Mac at least at the max of thrift shop was always a sweetheart and Ryan one of the least nice musicians I’ve worked for

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u/ashtonpar Sep 15 '26

Notice how no one works with him nor is he known anymore?

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u/TriggerHydrant 29d ago

Yeah I wondered what happened, they seemed like a golden duo.

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u/DefinitelyNotaGuest Sep 14 '26

I still pull this one up every couple of years, best Macklemore song by a long mile.

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u/Noteagro Sep 14 '26

Personally I think it is a slugfest between Otherside and My Oh My. Granted I grew up in Washington and listening to Dave Niehaus’ play-by-play of the Marniners all the time as a kid.

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u/BlackLeader70 Sep 14 '26

I’m not a Mariners fan or even keep up with baseball too much these days. But My Oh My definitely slaps and reminds me of childhood baseball games.

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u/I_dont_bone_goats Sep 14 '26

Man when I read about the Macklemore stuff this morning, my oh my INSTANTLY started playing in my head

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u/dspitts Sep 14 '26

This version is great too, but I have a soft spot for the OG version from the original EP that actually sampled "Otherside."

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u/JudahBotwin Sep 15 '26 edited Sep 15 '26

There was an Ed Sheeran banner ad at the top of the page. :(

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u/dspitts Sep 15 '26

Banner ads are personalized, but yeah, unfortunate

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u/vampyro91 Sep 17 '26

the OG is so much better it hurts LOL

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u/vaseline23 Sep 14 '26

otherside sounds way cleaner than his usual stuff

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u/KeinGott Sep 14 '26

Hold ya head up on his first album is that for me

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u/ejensen29 Sep 15 '26

I really enjoy need to know with chance.

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u/sir-camaris Sep 14 '26

It's not just Macklemore - it's Macklemore and Ryan Lewis.

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u/KannehTheGreat Sep 14 '26

And Fences, his part in this song is integral. We can't forget him either.

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u/Kukurio59 Sep 14 '26

This is his best song for me

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u/evan274 Performing Artist Sep 14 '26

Independent artist his entire career btw

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u/planeloise Sep 15 '26

Absolutely based of him. He chose freedom, which is why he's so outspoken 

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u/I_love_duckss Sep 14 '26

Almost as good as his Penis Song

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u/BradBrady Sep 14 '26

So why hasn’t Kanye been banned from stadiums for his anti semitic comments?

I’m starting to think that it’s not about the religion and more about the far right ideology that matters more

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u/Djb0623 Sep 14 '26

Kanye has been banned from stadiums

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u/Dergenbert Sep 14 '26

Kanye has been banned from multiple countries.

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u/MaeSolug Sep 14 '26

Kanye has been banned from his marriage

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u/Wise-Comb8596 Sep 15 '26

Kanye was permitted to perform at Raymond James Stadium in Tampa. They were pressed on the issue and made a statement that they care about “freedom of speech”

One call from Robert Kraft and Macklemore was immediately banned.

They don’t care about antisemitism. they don’t care what you say or think about Jews. They just don’t want you questioning Israel - thats the line.

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u/S3ndNud3s Sep 15 '26

He is banned. He’s banned from the entire country that is the UK lol

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u/IDespiseBananas Sep 14 '26

I had never heard this version before. Just the normal one over the RHCP Otherside instrumentals.

Fun to hear a different version, probably still prefer the other one though

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u/PlasticBag-ForA-Head Sep 14 '26

the og rhcp version is so fucking good, he couldnt have choosen a more fitting instrumental to sample.

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u/WorldBoofingChampion Sep 14 '26

Amazing song. Music therapist showed up this and starting over when i was in rehab.

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u/kruzix Sep 14 '26

thats the song where in the chorus you can hear the singer's jaw cracking , right? i kind of could never stop hearing it after realizing it first way back then

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u/TundieRice Sep 14 '26

After reading about him being dropped from that tour, I literally just thought “everybody’s gonna pretend they love his music now,” lmao.

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u/CaptainOvbious Sep 14 '26

i pretended i didn't like it to sound more cool lol, im sure im not the only one on this sub either

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u/ds11_ Sep 15 '26

That's the only reason he was posted here in the first place lol who actually listens to Macklemore?

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u/IDespiseBananas Sep 14 '26

Meanwhile Ive been bopping some of his stuff since Heist dropped, he has some bangers

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u/plausibleturtle Sep 14 '26

I need this record, I wish it would get pressed.

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u/Gleb_Twankenfrister Sep 14 '26

lmao no amount of him being based will get me to say his music isn’t corny

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u/Diesel_D Sep 14 '26

You’ve been psyopped into thinking being authentic and caring about the world around you is cringe and corny. This is a lie. You are the corny one for thinking this.

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u/BlackieTee Sep 14 '26

I think he’s allowed to have an opinion on Macklemore’s music that has nothing to do with being psyopped or not. There are plenty of musicians who I believe to be genuinely good human beings but I would never willingly listen to their music

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u/Diesel_D Sep 14 '26 edited 16d ago

I completely agree. I think there is a big difference between saying "Mackelmore's music isn't for me" vs. stating "Macklemore makes corny music" like it's an objective fact. The word "corny" is very specifically used to knock down people who speak about the injustices of the world. It's dismissive and demeaning on purpose. An artist expressing themselves in an authentic way is never corny. And by continuing to use that language, we are perpetuating the idea that caring about our fellow humans is lame.

People can hate Macklemore, hate his music, think he's bad, whatever. I don't care about that. But when a guy makes art about equal rights and everyone lines up to call him corny, I think they are saying more about themselves and their shitty world view than they are making a valid artistic criticism.

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u/Jskidmore1217 Sep 14 '26

You can be corny about supporting good causes

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u/BlackieTee Sep 14 '26

Ahh ok I understand more of where you’re coming from. To me when I initially saw the word “corny” I just assumed it meant that the music is lame or for people trying to be cool but just aren’t. I wasn’t thinking about the connotation that calling Macklemore “corny” had more to do with his speaking out on human rights than it has to do with the type of music he makes. That’s fair

Though I’m still not completely convinced that when the person made the comment you replied to that that was exactly his intention, to make fun of Macklemore b/c of his speaking out on issues. That’s why he said “no amount of him being based…”

But I’m not here to defend anyone so I’ll just leave it there

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u/Gleb_Twankenfrister Sep 14 '26

how dare you actually have reading comprehension!

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u/Gleb_Twankenfrister Sep 14 '26

no dude his music is just not sonically good. it has nothing to do w the fact he is a good person and outspoken about politics, that’s what im saying. you know the whole “separate the art from the artist” saying, generally it’s used to excuse people’s shitty behavior but in this case i am using it to excuse his shitty music lmao

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u/MinorThreatCJB Sep 14 '26

Or the music just sucks. He could be the greatest guy in the whole world but his music isn't good

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u/Crayola63 Sep 14 '26

What? Macklemores music is corny as fuck

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u/Diesel_D Sep 14 '26

Found another cornball.

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u/StatuatoryApe Sep 14 '26

Youll enjoy life more if you try and enjoy the corny stuff from time to time.

Hell, I rip "no handlbars" every once in awhile and thats corny-incarnate. Love it though.

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u/Crayola63 Sep 14 '26

I do enjoy corny. I still listen to ska and stuff like electric callboy.

Macklemore is corny

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u/tanktronic Sep 14 '26

For people who get uncomfortable with sincerity, yes. Perhaps you'd be more comfortable with "gangster" rappers

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u/Crayola63 Sep 14 '26

Why are you acting like you’re enlightened if you listen to Macklemore?

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u/ripyourlungsdave Sep 14 '26

This is just the saddest thing regularly hear.

Movie characters are corny. Human emotion and artistic expression is human. Just because you've been inundated with a million different version of these human emotions doesn't mean the human emotions are any less real or deserve to be expressed any less.

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u/Gleb_Twankenfrister Sep 14 '26

but a movie character is also someone’s human artistic expression

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u/iamnotazombie44 Sep 14 '26

I'm reassessing him after this stunt, yes.

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u/Dry_Bet_3813 Sep 14 '26

You’re reassessing him now after this stunt back in 2014?

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u/iamnotazombie44 Sep 14 '26

Call me unconvinced of his current stated motives based on his past actions.

I don't really care that he "apologized."

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u/Dry_Bet_3813 Sep 14 '26

He has a documented history of caring about human rights… if one action 12 years ago makes you doubt someone’s beliefs, they you must not trust very many people

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u/iamnotazombie44 Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26

How many times have you dressed up as racist caricature for your public event?

I'm guessing zero?

Zero for me too.

In fact, it's zero for all people who aren't racist pricks.

Apologies mean nothing without reform, and I see no evidence of reform. Do you?

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u/Diesel_D Sep 14 '26

I dressed up as a gangsta obama back in 2008 for Halloween and it was super racist in hindsight. Does that mean I can never say genocide is bad? Is there anything I will ever be able to do to redeem myself enough in order to have the perfect track record that is apparently required to say genocide is bad?

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u/iamnotazombie44 Sep 14 '26

You honestly want to compare yourself dressing up "gangster Obama for Halloween" to defend a band frontman performing in flagrant Jewface at packed concert?

Both aren't great but uhhh.... really something buddy.

Did you enjoy your time in blackface circa 2008?

Macklemore sure looked like he enjoyed his Jewface experience.

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u/Eother24 Sep 14 '26

You’re really gonna act like one is worse? And pretend “jewface” is a thing?

C’mon bud. Bit of a reach.

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u/iamnotazombie44 Sep 14 '26

Yes, Jewface is real and one is definitely worse.

Y'all really are a bunch of racist fucks, aren't you?

My god this is a depressing fucking thread.

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u/blenderdead Sep 14 '26

Fences is great

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u/sector16 Sep 14 '26

I don’t listen to his music much but damn…Have so much respect for what he stands for. Preach brother, preach.

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u/Happybadger96 Sep 14 '26

Ahem, Im pretty sure it is Macklemore and Richard Lewis.

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u/johall Sep 14 '26

The intro gives me such goosebumps every damn time

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u/KennyBlankenship_69 Sep 14 '26

We don’t have to act like his music is good because he got kicked off a tour lmao

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '26

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u/KennyBlankenship_69 Sep 14 '26

Whoa that’s quite the achievement!! certainly that directly correlates to their quality of music right??

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u/MinorThreatCJB Sep 14 '26

The hive mind here is crazy lol. His music is ass

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u/Ok-Lobster-919 Sep 15 '26

He knows his grift, it's very lucrative right now.

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u/KillerConfetti Sep 14 '26

Did he save Palestine yet?💀😂

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u/TomatilloLower4932 Sep 14 '26

Everyone pretending to like Macklemore now?

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u/FNC_Loki Sep 14 '26

Ive always liked this song, and saw him perform live in 2018.

Most people may not have heard anything beyond Thrift Shop and Cant Hold Us. Hes in the news right now, so maybe others are now finding out about his other songs.

Whats the big deal?

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u/2PumpPatriot69 Sep 14 '26

True. I only know those two songs

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u/d4nowar Sep 14 '26

Feels like 2013 again.

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u/Dragon_yum Sep 14 '26

People like his politics so they feel the need to pretend his music is actually good.

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u/IDespiseBananas Sep 14 '26

Ik not saying all his music is good. But his ryan lewis heist era was great.

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u/worstnameever2 Sep 14 '26

You're not wrong 

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u/IDespiseBananas Sep 14 '26

Who needs to pretend?

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u/nukkawut Sep 14 '26

Same 9/11 that the Palestinians (same Palestinians Macklemore is rooting for) celebrated in the streets after, giving out candy?

Macklemore is adding fuel to this fire.

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u/OKC89ers Sep 15 '26

People lose their right to life and security when their relatives 25 years ago celebrated a tragedy.

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u/nukkawut Sep 15 '26

Or vote in a terrorist government, or rip up all of the water pipes to make into rockets, or attack the kibbutzes that were the only place Palestinians could earn a living wage before Oct 7...

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u/nuckle Sep 14 '26

That song right there fucking suck. Jesus christ. Horrible.

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u/TurboRetardo Sep 14 '26

Y'all glazing this dork after shitting on his cultural application and music because he's now a Gaza bro ...y'all are not serious people

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u/CaptainOvbious Sep 14 '26

relevant name lmfao

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u/TurboRetardo Sep 14 '26

Another Run of the mill gaza bro how white are you?

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u/CaptainOvbious Sep 14 '26

acab isn't in my username dumb fuck

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u/TurboRetardo Sep 14 '26

You sure about that Captain acab.. again, how white are you? Let me guess your favorite streamer is Ludwig

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u/CaptainOvbious Sep 14 '26

my username is captainovbious.

you looked through my profile before you said that lmfao, you're not slick lil guy

he also isn't even my favorite streamer lol

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u/TurboRetardo Sep 15 '26

Dude, you're white

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u/CaptainOvbious Sep 15 '26

so? i never denied that. your point is shit.

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u/gnufoot Sep 16 '26

Racist much?

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u/everybodydumb Sep 14 '26

You think the strand effect is going to work here? He's not that popular or that good a musician

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '26

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u/Pepston Sep 14 '26

This is your hero?

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u/BlaxicanXIX Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26

Completely indefensible and I can't believe he was stupid enough to undermine his own points with this racist ass costume. What a fucking idiot.

That said, there IS a genocide happening in Palestine right now, Israel IS waging an illegal land grab in Palestine and Lebanon right now, etc. 

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u/Driller_Happy Sep 14 '26

Man, even the anti defamation league said this was nothing more than poor decision making when choosing a disguise

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u/BlaxicanXIX Sep 14 '26

Yes, it was extremely poor decision making. Do you disagree?

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u/whichwitch9 Sep 14 '26

They are pointing out he came out in what was meant to be a random disguise and did immediately apologize after it happened in 2014.

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-27483970

Whether you believe it or not, he did address and acknowledge it as ignorant at the time, as well as pivoted it to promote the ADL after.

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u/pr0tag Sep 14 '26

The irony is how the ADL suddenly becomes an authoritative source when it helps absolve Macklemore, but gets dismissed as biased or unreliable the moment its conclusions on antisemitism become inconvenient.

You can’t selectively treat it as credible only when it supports your argument.

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u/whichwitch9 Sep 14 '26

Just pointing out their own hypocrisy in posting the photo- especially because the people posting seem to love pointing towards the ADL when it fits their narrative

If context upsets people, they should reevaluate why it does

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u/Driller_Happy Sep 14 '26

I'm simply pointing out that even Israel's strongest defender said this was a nothing burger

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u/AugieDoggieDank Sep 14 '26

Downvotes coping

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u/SSBBW_SLAYER Sep 14 '26

Thanks for posting, I love Israel now!

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u/Water_sports_666 Sep 14 '26

I really don’t understand why people defend artists or celebrities for having the most bare minimum “humans should have rights” message. Most “normal everyday” people also believe that and it doesn’t make us special. Also him doing this racist caricature actually helps the idea of Israel more than hurt it. Also his music is fucking trash and is on par with Taylor Swift’s “bland chicken do me missionary” basic-ness.

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u/theeulessbusta Sep 14 '26

Oh wow, this still sucks

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u/Affectionate-Salt356 Sep 14 '26

Are we pretending to like Macklemore now because we agree with him politically?

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u/JBNothingWrong Sep 14 '26

Thrift shop was fun

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u/Affectionate-Salt356 Sep 14 '26

Agreed

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u/JBNothingWrong Sep 14 '26

Then why’d you leave such a shitty little bitch ass comment?

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u/Tinokotw Sep 14 '26

Because it's true r/music and reddit in general were not fans of him until last week.

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u/JBNothingWrong Sep 14 '26

And you’ve got your finger on the pulse of all of reddits opinions? Lmao shut up

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u/Dragon_yum Sep 14 '26

Because a musician makes more than one song and as a whole his music sucks?

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u/JBNothingWrong Sep 14 '26

You can call him safe or cheesy or buoyed by his whiteness but he’s far too commercially successful to just flat out say he sucks.

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u/Affectionate-Salt356 Sep 14 '26

Because the rest of his music is mid at best and he's an antisemite

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u/JBNothingWrong Sep 14 '26

Lmao saying free Palestine doesn’t make you an anti semite

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u/iamnotazombie44 Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26

No, but wearing this "Jewface" at a concert does make him antisemitic.

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u/JBNothingWrong Sep 14 '26

Twelve years ago and issued a public apology.

And really, aside from the nose, it’s really more middle eastern used car salesman vibe.

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u/dbmajor7 Sep 14 '26

IT'S ANTISEMITIC IF YOU DONT SUPPORT GENOCIDE!

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u/lothartheunkind Sep 14 '26

Saw it at a festival at the height of its popularity and it’s one of the funnest songs I’ve ever seen live, as far as crowd hype goes. 10/10

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u/night_dude Sep 14 '26

Saw him the year it came out and he played it 3 times hahaha, it was heaps of fun!

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u/night_dude Sep 14 '26

And Same Love may have aged terribly (and possibly have a stolen hook i can't remember) but it was a pretty big deal at the time. I had it on repeat for a while.

He's always been a better activist and role model than a rapper, IMO.

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u/Brittig Sep 14 '26

Is this reddit?

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u/pigoons Sep 14 '26

Welcome to reeeeeeeddddddddddiiiiiittttt 🙃

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u/pancakencheese76 Sep 14 '26

Yes. This is Reddit.

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u/fibz Sep 14 '26

Yeh

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u/NaughtAClue Sep 14 '26

Honestly I haven’t heard music from Macklemore since Thrift Shop was inescapable. Today, I blocked Ed Sheeran on my Spotify, followed Macklemore on Spotify, and I’m streaming his most recent album on repeat. It’s not much, but it’s something small that I can do to show my support for him.

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u/Bloomingk Sep 14 '26

This is how the Streisand effect works.

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u/NaughtAClue Sep 14 '26

Well yeah I mean maybe other people will be interested in doing something similar and throwing their support behind him too? Why is that a bad thing?

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u/NaughtAClue Sep 14 '26

Oh sorry dude, I’m getting murked on another subreddit for a similar comment, I’m on the defensive

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u/night_dude Sep 14 '26

"I'm not being passive-aggressively snarky, you're just reading that into it!"

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u/TurquoiseBlue00 Sep 14 '26

That’s exactly what’s happening lmao

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u/BIissful Sep 14 '26

Someone didn't get the memo

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u/BlaxicanXIX Sep 14 '26

Well we were pretending to dislike Macklemore purely because he was white, so I guess this is along the same vein

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u/everybodydumb Sep 14 '26

Seriously? Lol. Society is screwed

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u/PMmeSpreadEaglePics Sep 14 '26

The original version with the RHCP sample is so much better. I was so upset when I first heard this version, lol. Still a banger though.

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u/AgentRadd Sep 14 '26

Matisyahu > Macklemore all day

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u/Angloidrando Sep 14 '26

Zero talent

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u/breddabreddabing Sep 14 '26

as much as I like Macklemore as a human being I can't start pretending his music is good I'm sorry 😭

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u/Dragon_yum Sep 14 '26

It was fun music, I do t argue that. It wasn’t good though.

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u/ekbrooo22 Sep 14 '26

This song makes me emotional every time - and it’s absolutely incredible live!!

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u/the___reckoner Sep 14 '26

yea let's pretend his career wasn't down the shitter until eh started his Palestine shtick

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u/WOLF_BestAlbum Sep 14 '26

banger 10/10

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u/sherbert-stock Sep 14 '26

oh my god people have to pretend they like macklemore now

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u/Djbearjew Sep 14 '26

He still owes a bunch of my friends money from his junkie days

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u/NickInTheBooth Sep 14 '26

I’d go far enough to say this is the (only) good Macklemore song

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u/Jabba_the_Putt Sep 14 '26

Frankly way way better indie hip hop out there than this. Check out Grieves if you like this style but want it with more talent

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u/UkNomysTeezz Sep 14 '26

This sub is the most cringe worthy sub on Reddit somehow.