r/Music • u/Commercial_Avocado86 • 7h ago

article Andrew Watt denies Tony Iommi’s claim about final Black Sabbath album

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/andrew-watt-interview-madonna-mccartney-the-stones-gaga-1235644128/?utm_source=edit-vip
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u/chrisslooter 7h ago

I don't get the hype about Watt. I remember hearing about how great he was in California Breed and that guitar work is the most boring simple basic non inspired lame guitar work of all time. And his production is just running drums and vocals through a saturation plugin. Makes the vocals sound like you are singing through a tiny Peavey practice amp.

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u/Union_5-3992 5h ago

I like him because he's very good at extracting good music from a lot of these older bands. Ozzy, Elton John, McCartney, and the Stones all had some of their best recent stuff with him. Though I do agree that his production style really isn't very good. But I'd ultimately rather have good songs with bad production than bad songs with good production.

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u/chrisslooter 5h ago

Yeah, he does have a few OK things. He got Ozzy to sing higher for the last 2 albums vs. another producer I am not crazy about rick ruben who let Ozzy just talk/sing on Sabbaths 13.

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u/decoy79 1h ago

Not to mention Pearl Jam

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u/Consistent-Pitch-585 3h ago

The songs aren't even THAT good though.

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u/stevefuzz 4h ago

When I saw Iggy pop he played guitar and was so main character that it was very annoying. Not a huge fan of the albums he's worked on either.

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u/DerevoMusic 2h ago

I’m assuming you’ve seen him playing guitar with Ozzy while Zakk was also onstage playing guitar. It was quite the sight to behold

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u/_Wrecktangular 2h ago

He’s absolutely abhorred in music production circles for his production style.

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u/baurcab 6h ago

I don’t think this is the answer you’re looking for but he convinced Pearl Jam to go back to letting Mike McCready play solos on their last studio album and that was pretty fantastic.

That said, people didn’t seem to like the actual production of the album.

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u/GordonShumway99 6h ago

I think that complaint had more to do with the mix. I am patiently awaiting the 10 yr anniversary of Dark Matter so we can get a Brendan O’Brien mix haha

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u/GTHobbes 5h ago

I liked Dark Matter, Earthling, and the new Stones albums.

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u/nightingale-nitemare 5h ago

And then he made it all sound like dog shit. At least there are the bootleg live recordings of the songs off the album.

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u/GordonShumway99 9m ago

Well the mixer on the album is Șerban Ghenea, who is generally a pop oriented mixer, which I think is a big reason why all the drums sound compressed AF. If I could really change anything about Dark Matter, it would literally only be the final mix as I do think Andrew Watt (as a producer) has some energetic infectious ability to get performances out of Pearl Jam, the Stones, Iggy, McCartney, Ozzy, etc. The bands he works with clearly love him. From everything I’ve read, he’s a fan first, so I think he just reminds these guys who they are. It just sounds too polished and clean for my personal taste.

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u/juanster29 6h ago

lots of folks on the Rolling Stones subreddit agree with you

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u/m149 5h ago

I'm with ya.....I don't love his productions. Serious lack of dynamics.

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u/Charles0723 6h ago

Does he get a brand new off the rack leather jacket for everything he does?

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u/AnointMyPhallus 6h ago

Click bait, there's no actual disagreement, the album didn't happen because Bill Ward couldn't do it and they didn't want to do it without him.

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u/theraggedyman 4h ago

"Brummies in Taking-The-Piss shocker. Film at 11, babs."

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u/Commercial_Avocado86 6h ago

What are you talking about? Iommi said the album didn’t happen because Watt was “too excited”, watt denies it

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u/AnointMyPhallus 6h ago

Did you yourself actually read the article? He doesn't "deny" anything, he says Tony was joking and the album didn't happen because of Bill. The clickbait headline implies a conflict or disagreement that doesn't exist.

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u/Commercial_Avocado86 6h ago

Learn to read

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u/AnointMyPhallus 6h ago

Apologies, I just realized you're a bot that just spams the same RollingStone articles on various subs. Please carry on with your noble work.

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u/Commercial_Avocado86 6h ago

Yeah I’m definitely a bot, idiot

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u/AnointMyPhallus 6h ago

If a human being is actually spending their one life on this earth spamming rolling stone articles on reddit then that's just sad. Do you come up with the clickbait titles yourself or get them off a list?

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u/LucifersPromoter 6h ago

So why do you only seem to mass post Rolling Stone content? Even if you're not a bot, your posting history doesn't appear organic at all.

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u/moistplumpin 3h ago

I do not understand why anyone thinks his work is credible. I’ve been in the studio with him, and there’s just nothing there.