Let's be honest. Kid Rock's political opinions goes beyond just being conservative or a democrat. He's waved his colors and thoughts about politics to the point where any person/friend with some kind of spine would sit down and talk to him or cut him off.
Cutting someone off, while necessary sometimes, also just silos people in their own point of view. The truth is that changing someone’s mind takes work that most people aren’t willing to do, and cutting people off is the alternative.
If you really want to change someone’s mind build a relationship and trust with that person on any other topic/activity. Then make sure that person feels you have understood THEIR point of view accurately, and always show you respect that person’s autonomy. Be someone that makes others feel good about themselves, and also be someone people want to be. Do that, and you’ll be pleasantly surprised how that person responds over time when you can disagree with but respect that person’s opinion.
Im speaking about people in general, and from my personal experience with many in my family. Im genuinely just trying to help give people a guide to better understanding. I could give two fucks about these guys, so why all the hate?
Because people like you only ever seem to devote your energy to getting the left to look more kindly on the right when they don't deserve it. You couldn't care if the right changes their attitude to us, you just try to browbeat us into giving in to your silly, repeatedly failed kumbaya nonsense because you think we'll fold more easily than the insane fascists. Sorry, but no, the stakes are way too high for that.
We're not going to spit on our own dead and swallow lost rights and safety for your kumbaya fantasies that have failed every time the USA has tried. Most recently in 2020-2024.
I don't disagree with you, but it's also important to note that we're all dealing with shit in our lives and it's not anybody's task or burden to sit down and talk to these people and try to change their opinions on basic and fundamentally wrong shit like racism or just treating other people terrible in general. We can respect and admire If someone has the interest, willpower and/or stubbornness to sit down and try to talk to these people, but it should in no way be expected nor should someone not doing this feel like they're less of a person than someone who does.
I completely agree, but we also shouldn’t turn people willing/able to engage with the other side into pariahs, which is exactly what’s happening here, to me, and is my experience broadly speaking.
It's up to each individual person to determine whether or not they want to "deal" with such people. Nobody owe these people any seconds of their time if they don't want to. The person spewing and brewing hate is the one who got themselves in this situation in the first place.
If people want to treat these people like a pariah then so be it. For someone in Kid Rock's case the list and magnitude of terrible things is too long/big for many people to ever accept. It's usually a dealbreaker.
I have a lot of experience with my family, I was born in a Cult, like an actual one. I have people still in it, I’ve helped people leave. So believe me, I know the good, the bad, and the ugly. I also know you get nowhere if you don’t try.
I have no interest in making morons feel good about themselves. I have no respect for anyone’s belligerent MAGA opinions. The fact that they think they’re owed respect and have earned an audience for their piss poor political opinions is a big part of the problem. Coddling idiots is a disservice to everyone involved, not sure when we lost the plot on this as a society. There have always been idiots, but the entitlement of modern idiots is baffling
Calling an idiot an idiot doesn’t change they’re an idiot. And cutting them out doesnt mean they cant vote anymore.
Civic engagement is a thing, it’s actually how elections are won. I dont care if you all want to downvote me to oblivion, but consider doing the work to make things better, instead of just taking a moral high ground.
You can’t MAKE someone change, this is absolutely true. But you CAN make it easier for another person to make the choice, this is also absolutely true.
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u/Sulinia 5h ago edited 5h ago
Let's be honest. Kid Rock's political opinions goes beyond just being conservative or a democrat. He's waved his colors and thoughts about politics to the point where any person/friend with some kind of spine would sit down and talk to him or cut him off.