article Emimen Defends Kid Rock Collab: "Just Choosing to Make Music with My Old Friend"
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u/-ImJustSaiyan- 4h ago
And not just the Emimen, but the Emiwomen and Emichildren too.
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u/Silent9ine 4h ago
Dont forget the Emithem
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u/KruleDiablo 3h ago
Dying cause I didn't even notice the typo before your comment
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u/AbsoluteGote 4h ago
Ok let's just ignore politics for a second, what about the fact that Kid Rock fucking sucks?
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u/etr4807 3h ago
I mean if we’re completely ignoring politics in this hypothetical, then it would be silly to pretend Kid Rock hasn’t had some very popular songs.
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u/clamroll 2h ago
Politics aside, meth is very popular. It would be silly to pretend like meth hasn't had some very devoted fans.
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u/AgentCirceLuna 2h ago
Philip K Dick in the HOUSE… hey, why are there only a dozen homeless people in here today? Where’s Tom?
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u/OnlineMajor 2h ago
I'm from Australia and even kid rocks good songs, you know it comes from a shit musician. Just like any good DJ Khalid song, they're bangers but you know it's kinda a guilty pleasure cause the artist sucks
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u/eddiestriker 2h ago
DJ Khaled has good songs? Every time I hear him shout his own name over someone singing, I change the song
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u/papasmurf255 1h ago
He also doesn't even understand music. That clip of him trying to play the guitar (not even in tune 😂) is down right embarrassing
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u/Nemonoone67 2h ago
25 years ago. He was popular 25 years ago. If it were 2000, you be saying John Denver has some very popular songs. How is he even relevant to the era? Lmao
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u/eeke1 4h ago
Of course Eminem can say "liberal and evangelical can agree".
They're both rich enough to be immune to anything negative from Maga while one actively grifts and or supports it.
It's easier to remain friends if nothing they influence affects them.
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u/ayoungmanfromtheuk 3h ago
Yeah true in America if you have money you can buy protection from the real world
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u/Noocawe 3h ago
Wait Kid Rock is evangelical? Doesn't he break all the rules? I guess as long as they can declare they are evangelical or Christian and perform the right way nothing really matters.
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u/AgentCirceLuna 1h ago
People are weird as fuck about that. I’m probably the only Christian I know who follows the no sex before marriage rule. Like I’ve been in bed with people, said we’d just stay friends or whatever due to my beliefs, then it would be actual Christians giving me the ‘wtf man’ response while atheists I knew would say ‘ah yeah that’s your own choice’.
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u/Ok-Astronaut2976 1h ago
The funny part of the next line.
Apparently everyone agrees that God is real and #1.
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u/Tricky-Ad7897 3h ago
It does make his persona from the last like 10 years kinda weak though. 10 years of anti trump music and shit and here he is with his number 1 fan in the music industry, that's some fake demon shit lmao.
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u/guysitsausername 🔊 Eclectic & Dyslexic 🤘 5h ago
One of the many things that bugs me about this is the line "Liberal and evangelical can agree," which feeds into the tired, false trope endlessly spouted by right-wing extremists that anyone who is not conservative or Republican must be an atheist or godless. It's not just wrong. It's a deliberate falsehood spread to indoctrinate people into hating the "other side" as a way to gin up votes out of division and anger.
For most people, faith has nothing to do with political ideology. Plenty of people on both sides are believers, and plenty of people on both sides live their lives as if there is no God.
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u/onewilybobkat 4h ago
Jesus teaches shit that is antithetical to everything Republicans believe. If they don't keep painting liberals as godless heathens we might notice that there's nothing Christian about anything they do or say.
If there's a war against Christianity, they are the invading force.
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u/guysitsausername 🔊 Eclectic & Dyslexic 🤘 4h ago
I couldn't agree more. Most so called evangelicals I have known are also the most worldly and ignorant of scripture. They cherry pick things that confirm their existing bias, quote out of context and use only one part of a passage which ignores or contradicts the true intended message.
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u/AgentCirceLuna 1h ago
For instance im a Christian who doesn’t believe in casual sex but I also have an emotional revulsion to it (you could end up making someone pregnant and then screwing up lives) which I feel is my own personal choice, I don’t force it on anyone else, and I don’t feel anything but ambivalent about it. Most the people pushing me to sleep with people have all been religious people for some reason. Just weird.
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u/SerHodorTheThrall 1h ago
American Evangelicals are post-Christian. Its the end result of Protestantism where the laity experience secularization, but there is no foundational church to help reckon with such a seismic shift in worldview. So everyone kind of just goes...schizo.
England has long had the Anglican Church, and Germany had federal State Churches...that is until 1919 when they were all dissolved. 30 years later, the Godless German people committed atrocities untold under the motto of "Gott Mitt Uns".
With regard to the US, the WASP aristocracy long controlled Protestant Church life of America until Reagan shattered the WASP aristocracy and replaced it with the White Scotch-Irish Evangelical aristocracy you see today. The power of America shifted from Anglican/Lutheran Protestantism of the Yankee North to Baptist/Calvinist Protestantism of the Dixie South.
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u/wagon_ear 5h ago
Well I think specifically that evangelical Christian ideology is pretty conservative.
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u/Daredev44 4h ago
Funny enough this is due to CIA actions during the first red scare
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u/guysitsausername 🔊 Eclectic & Dyslexic 🤘 4h ago
I have been watching documentaries about world history and politics. If you have any books or documentaries to recommend, I will check them out.
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u/Daredev44 4h ago
I’d highly recommend the Devil’s Chessboard by David Talbot which tells the story of Allen Dulles and the formation of the CIA. Also Errand into the Wilderness of Mirrors
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u/SBY-ScioN 4h ago
Plenty of people chose to keep prioritizing conversion therapy, xenophobia and abortions instead of actually think on the best for everybody.
You just can't pardon a group of people just cause now they want to be friends after a decade of destroying the world practically and basically just cause they mixed "by accident" Christianity with Kukluxklanity.
Oopsy my bad, let's be friends.
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u/Adebisis-Hat 5h ago
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u/Junglism32 4h ago
He loves cheese pies?
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u/AgentCirceLuna 2h ago
I’ve actually fucking met someone like this - outright told me what their friend had done. Asked how I felt about it, like I was gonna reassure him, and I did the whole ‘yeah… now I’ve got TWO people I don’t wanna be around anymore’
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u/mahki25942 4h ago
So…remember when he made that whole speech about F@%# anyone that voted for Trump….
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u/NickWangOG 3h ago
The guy is just an opportunist clinging to relevancy. People shouldn’t idolize these celebrities they don’t know at all.
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u/MyGoodDood22 1h ago
Lets not pretend Eminem needs to cling to relevancy. A goat in the industry is always relevant. To be clear, this isn't speaking on the collab but rather your comment "cling to relevancy"
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u/jim45804 5h ago
Choose better friends
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u/ben010783 4h ago
Even before the Trump stuff, Kid Rock was a tool. I don’t understand why he would defend him now.
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u/Xylamyla 4h ago
Is he defending Kid Rock and his political opinions? Or is he just defending doing a music collab with a longtime friend? Because those are two different things.
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u/Greenman_on_LSD 3h ago
That's like saying "I know friend is a shitty person who treats others poorly, but we're still cool because he hasn't done it to me."
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u/BeforeTheEmpty 3h ago
Hypothetically, if you willingly choose to sit at a table with or befriend a Nazi, what do you think that says about you?
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u/Fragrant-Anywhere489 2h ago
He's amplifying Kid Rock's message by lending his credibility to his projects. Kid Rock is on Fox & Friends calling El-Sayed a terrorist. Kid Rock doesn't live or vote in Michigan. Eminem does. Kid Rock is so irrelevant that his Trump shows fail miserably. Remember the Trump Super Bowl Halftime show that no one watched? The Freedom concerts that were cancelled? Just by having Em attached to this album gives it attention. Eminem is the G.O.A.T. Kid Rock is a goat. There's a big difference.
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u/Galant1992 4h ago
He's besties with 50 Cent who is a homophobic Trumptard.
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u/antiduh 4h ago
Wait what? God damn it. Fucking money ruins everything.
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u/Effective-End-964 3h ago
I mean, people have personal agency. He makes his own choices. He chooses to be a POS.
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u/Sad_Minute_3989 3h ago
Eminem has always been a POS and so has fifty, I don't know were the idea that they are moral paragons came from.
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u/labiagargantula 3h ago edited 3h ago
You can be friends with people who you disagree with.
People on Reddit are fucking weird
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u/LowIssue3445 2h ago
He supported a president who let Elon Musk cancel USAID, which has caused hundreds of thousands of deaths among the most vulnerable people in the world, many of them children. As far as I can tell from googling, he hasn't said anything abt it or renounced Elon and the Trump administration over it. And that's just USAID. There are all sorts of other horrible and corrupt things this admin is doing (see the recent betrayal of Ukraine and support of a genocidal dictator. There are obviously limits to agreeing to disagree, and I would think supporting mass murder goes way past that limit. But what do I know. I was raised by decent ppl to be a decent person.
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u/Loitering_ 1h ago
But have you considered Hillary’s beige laptop?
/s
That people think the current administration is the status quo is confusing and most likely a bot.
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u/gRizzletheMagi 3h ago
Sure you can be friends with someone you disagree with.
You can also lose fans and face backlash for publicly collaborating with someone who VERY publicly and ceremonially joined hips with the Trump administration.
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u/HazyMirror 1h ago
I don't think Eminem has cared about fans for a long time tbh.
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u/HMTMKMKM95 3h ago
Some shit is so fundamental that it isn't just a disagreement. If you hang with Nazis, I'm not going to want to be around you.
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u/Eother24 3h ago
That first sentence is really too vague to be intelligent or insightful. Disagree with on what? Finish the thought. Favorite colors? Best holidays? Human fucking rights?
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u/Jirachibi1000 3h ago
When that disagreement is "I dont like olives on pizza and you do" or "I like cats more than dogs and you don't" then sure :) But when its "I think trans people should be killed and i support bigotry" then no you should absolutely not.
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u/imreallyreallyhungry 2h ago
When did kid rock say trans people should be killed?
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u/Loitering_ 1h ago
He hasn’t that I know of, but he has chosen to be the poster child for people with a clearly “purge the other” mentality.
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u/postinganxiety 3h ago
Sure, if we disagree on pizza toppings. Not if we disagree with whether or not certain people have the right to exist.
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u/Loan_Wolfie 3h ago edited 3h ago
Tom Morello is as left wing as it gets, and he is friends with Kid Rock, and Kid used to give Tom's mother Pistons tickets.
Frankly, it's nice to see people who are different politically that can be friends and work together. It moderates people and moves them further from right or left wing extremism.
Russia has a long running social media campaign with the aim of dividing America into 2 groups that hate each other. Anything that works against that is a good thing.
It's a shame America isn't a 3 party system with a centrist party.
Edit... 3 party system. Everyone has a different idea of what centrist is. If Democrats are centrist, then a left wing party.
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u/EmeraldJunkie 2h ago
If this was 20 or so years ago I'd be inclined to agree, but the state of the modern Republican party and how they're choosing to run the United States. I'm fairly left wing and I can certainly see the appeal and logic of certain right wing views, but then I look at the Republicans, ICE, embezzlement, corruption, the list is endless. It's little about different opinions but more about how one party is seemingly hell bent on dismantling any checks and balances in favour of fattening their wallets and removing the rights of their citizens.
When I was a kid I wanted nothing more than to move to the US. I fully believed in every bit of Bush and Obama era propaganda that told me that the US was where dreams could come true. The last decade shattered that dream with a mallet.
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u/InstructionFinal5190 3h ago
We are at a point where one political party doesn't believe certain groups of people have the right to exist. That same political party is executing American citizens on the streets and is applauding it.
You are either for or against that, and I for one am not going to let by gones be by gones if someone is for it. Fuck em and the horse they rode in on.
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u/Pyyric 3h ago
lol, what would a centrist party in america be even? Support both Ukraine and Israel? Only slightly fascist? Support trans people's right to exist but only if they stay in their own houses forever?
Democrats on a global scale are right of center already. We do not have a left wing party.
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u/FormerShitPoster 3h ago
It's a shame America doesn't have a left wing party. Democrats are the centrist party but anything left of Reagan makes American conservatives shit their diapers.
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u/SketchAinsworth 2h ago
Yea I don’t support people who think statutory rape is fun. It doesn’t matter what side you’re on, what Russian bots say, etc.
I’ve got a strong moral line against pedophilia.
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u/bong_residue 1h ago
Yeah I’m so glad to see those people working with people of different political ideologies like kid rock…https://fox59.com/news/national-world/rolling-stone-journalist-says-kid-rock-brandished-gun-used-racial-slur-during-interview/amp/
So insightful he is.
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u/clashtrack 2h ago
Tom Morello's also kind of a tool though.
He's pretentious af, then yelling about down with the system all these years, death to huge conglomerates, and then posts pictures of himself at Disney World cause Disney now owns Star Wars and he likes Star Wars :)
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u/stingeragent 5h ago
They have been friends long before trump came around. Being conservative or democrat didn't used to mean you would be lifelong enemies. Unfortunately the current political landscape has made it so.
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u/NorthernDevil 4h ago edited 4h ago
It’s not like that happened in a vacuum. It’s easy to be friends when you disagree on things like foreign and fiscal policy. Less easy when you disagree on things like rounding up every immigrant and keeping them in camps for months in violation of the Constitution, or whether we should ban books in school libraries, or whether hospitals should be permitted to provide every effective treatment to at-risk pregnant women without fear of criminal reprisal.
Or, more pointedly, when you disagree on the importance of an underage sexual trafficking ring that heavily implicates a political leader.
When what’s considered “political” focuses so heavily on a lot of people’s ability to live a safe, healthy life, that changes the dynamic. Escalation always changes things.
You can’t really expect people to write those kinds of disagreements off just because they’ve now become “political” disputes, can you?
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u/megalodondon 3h ago
Thank you. I am so sick of people gaslighting this shit CONSTANTLY because they either agree with this or can't stand to admit their 'rap God' is a fuckin tool
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u/PuttingInTheEffort 1h ago
Back before this administration, people could be friends regardless of beliefs and political stances. It was like "I can't agree with you on xyz, but I'll vote how I want and you vote how you want and that's that"
Now? A lot of the current agenda is to drive a wedge between people and unfortunately it's working. Why would I want to be or stay friends with someone who voted for waves hands around this?
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u/Sulinia 4h ago edited 4h ago
Let's be honest. Kid Rock's political opinions goes beyond just being conservative or a democrat. He's waved his colors and thoughts about politics to the point where any person/friend with some kind of spine would sit down and talk to him or cut him off.
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u/sacrecide 4h ago
Kid rock wrote a song about how he loved commiting statutory rape
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u/Gay_Giraffe_1773 4h ago
When "one side" of the political landscape promotes or enables the elimination and/or extermination of people I love and care about, it ceases to be about "disagreements". Yes, we probably have common ground on certain things, but those hateful viewpoints are dealbreakers for me to consider them "friends". I will work and interact with them because I have to for my livelihood, but I will never trust them or count on them for anything personal in my life again.
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u/DialecticalDeathDryv 4h ago
Kid Rock is basically single handledly responsible for all of the public hate and backlash against Dylan Mulvaney.
It’s weird to me that you’d look at something like that and be like “why can’t we just put our differences aside?”
Well exactly. Why did kid rock have to launch an international hate campaign against another person? Why didn’t he just live and let live?
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u/gnufoot 4h ago
I'm close friends with someone who has always considered himself a republican. But he hates Trump. There's a difference between being Republican and being MAGA.
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u/Sure_Selection_443 4h ago
Because one of them has become a literal Nazi party. It's not that complicated.
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u/Cutsman4057 Concertgoer 4h ago
The current landscape or the current president?
It wasnt this way until he showed up.
Actually, the right lost its mind when a black guy became president.
Funny how that played out.
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u/Subject-Lettuce-844 3h ago
Outside of all the political hypocrisy, this shit is just corny, a Christian album? 🤮
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u/KarlWhitroptkin 4h ago
Regardless of how shitty of a person Kid Rock is and all that aside, Eminem’s verse is fucking garbage.
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u/BBWolf326 2h ago
Let's not forget that Em almost torpedoed his career with his political music and "Line in the sand" freestyle. He used his platform and fame to combat all the maga nonsense from jump. Kid Rock did the opposite and tried to regain his status after grifting off his hip hop adjacent music career was no longer working. They are friends but have always represented two different types of white dudes from Michigan.
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u/spectre78 2h ago edited 1h ago
They seem the same to me if they’re still hanging out. I for damn sure dropped every single one of the MAGA dudes I know, including the ones who thought they were slick and hiding it for years. I can imagine what kind of person you need to be to want to be friends with Kid Rock at this point. Em ain’t dodging the allegations.
Edit: for all the MAGA asshats DMing me that Em is basically Black so he can’t be racist, please ask the doc to double the dose.
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u/gusted 4h ago
Even if the Kid Rock collab was forgivable the line quoted in this article deserves jail time. Holy shit.
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u/EricFredNorris 4h ago
God damn you weren’t kidding. His verse in the article is the corniest shit I’ve ever seen.
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u/Futants_ 4h ago
My question is why would Em be friends with a wannabe rapper who fcked over real rappers in the early 90s?
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u/Frankyfan3 4h ago
He wrote and performed songs fetishizing Domestic Violence, but this is where you draw the line?
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u/dubblebubbleprawns 4h ago
"Young ladies, young ladies
I like em underage, see
Some say that's statutory
I say that's mandatory."
-30 year old Kid Rock
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u/WhutSup74 5h ago
Sorry, but if my old friend slobs knob for fascists, to me, that’s an ex-friend not an old friend.
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u/Helagoth 4h ago
Right, its not that his old friend is a fascist, or has racist views in private, it's that hes a face of the regime. If kid rock was just an asshole and it was an open secret he was an asshole, then the "old friend" defense is understandable.
In this case, it is not.
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u/Lazzen 4h ago
Dolly parton did the same, with the same kid rock person. Why was "saint parton" not given shit over it?
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u/Gradschoolmaybe3 3h ago
Because people outsource their morals. They don't have any standards they apply consistently. They just follow the online mob on which successful and rich person to hate on.
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u/ThatGuyBackThere280 2h ago edited 2h ago
Because people are hypocritical online and generally want to cherry pick when it comes to morals, behind the anonymity. You can immediately tell like clockwork on this site of how the direction of the general online mob will go when it comes to different conversations.
People wants to act about cutting off anyone and anything in a form of Self-flagellation being the only end goal and everything is somehow in a binary 0 or 1 situation.
I certainly don't agree with Kid Rock's political alignment at all, but at the same time we don't know fuck-all about the history behind him with others.
People want to go the scorched earth method instead of the Daryl Davis method. (If you don't know who he is, look up the accomplishments he did)
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u/cliffordlloyd_art 59m ago
she did, but she also didn't made a whole song about how MAGA people are garbage.
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u/brain-out-of-order 4h ago
People worship projected personas and then get pissy when their parasocial relationship gets battered.
Don’t meet your heroes and stop worshiping people. It’s disgusting. Someone makes music. That has nothing to do with the soul inside of the skin suit.
Managing the persona is 99% of the job.
Further, if you think it’s inappropriate for someone to sing about their faith, then get lost please.
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u/GoldenColossus55 3h ago
There is no left wing or right wing
There is just richs and elites and then everybody else...
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u/Sanchezzy123 4h ago
So here's the thing. We all hate kid Rock.
However, in the grand scheme of things, he's just a guy who has shitty opinions and is a bad person. He's not trump, and he's not Hitler.
Em and him have a history. They are friends. You probably have friends who aren't exactly the greatest of people, or at the very least have a different opinion on world issues.
We can't expect artists to simply drop all of their personal relationships because we don't like what the individual stands for.
Just my two cents
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u/HalfwayHeroic 4h ago
He's not trump
Sure, but he uses his celebrity status to endorse and amplify trump's politics.
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u/schweddyballsac 3h ago
I’m not parasocial enough to care which people should or shouldn’t be friends with. Same goes with anyone else in my life too. Really none of my business
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u/Rage_Blackout 3h ago
Bold of you to assume Redditors have friends with different opinions. I’m not even sure on just the friends part.
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u/deeplovinz 4h ago
Im from southeast texas. Ive lived in a very liberal city since i was 18 though, and I’m a liberal myself. If I cut out all the people in my life who voted for trump I’d have no family left. They’re good people at the end of the day, stupid but good and misguided maybe.
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u/Imnotyoursupervisor 1h ago
I’m from Utah.
I’ve seen people duped my entire life. Most of them are family and they have the best intentions. They’re certainly not stupid. They believe and they follow.
There’s a reason why we’re the MLM leaders.
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u/donttakerhisthewrong 3h ago
How do good people support molesting children and rape?
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u/CrowdDisappointer 3h ago edited 1h ago
I’m also a liberal from texas, but I went no-contact with my maga family. It was the best hard decision I’ve ever made. Now that the veil of “but they’re your family they can’t be awful people” has been removed, I can see them more clearly and am sooo glad to not have to be surrounded by those miserable twats
Edit: I love all these comments taking me sharing a family dynamic as a personal attack and then telling me I’m a miserable asshole without knowing a single thing about my family other than that they’re maga. Sorry yall prob had ppl in your lives cut you off for being maga as well, but you don’t have to project that shit on me lol
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u/rivlecca 3h ago
Good people don't support hurting innocent people.
Every single Trump supporter does.
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u/Ranier_Wolfnight 3h ago
You absolutely have a valid point.
People who comment on Reddit make very finite comments. I guarantee there are gray areas in their lives they WISH they could have a say about, but can’t.
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u/Lol1250 5h ago
What about emiwoman
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u/saurdaux 4h ago
Not just the Emimen, but the Emiwomen and Emichildren, too! They're rappers and I collaborated with them like rappers!
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u/VikingTensor 5h ago
How do you make music with Kid Rock? I thought it was just farts and beer noises.
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u/ZanthrinGamer 4h ago
when someone becomes a nazi they should stop being your friend. there are limits and lines that once crossed can not be repaired.
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u/PaulaDeen21 4h ago edited 4h ago
Sure, you’re totally entitled to ‘just make music with old friends’ and we just get to judge you for it.
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u/jojomoodie 4h ago
I honestly like the idea of collaborations beyond politics but at the same time Kid Rock has said some anti Muslim shit and that is also beyond politics.
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u/balldontlie3030 5h ago
It’s of course you choice to support or listen to anything you want but I never understand why you expect so much from celebrities, they are just imperfect people like the rest of us
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u/Proof_Rise_3652 3h ago
Not hard to imagine that many people using Reddit do not understand the concept of friendship. One of my closest friend has been spending too much time on Twitter and repeats word for word Kremlin propaganda. I hate it, but he's still my brother, no political bs will come between us. So I just tell him that I think he's a fucking moron and then we pop another beer.
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u/S_Hodgson 3h ago
People are picking and choosing what to be offended by based on what’s fashionable at the time. People on this thread are clearly too young to remember the controversy Eminem caused in the early 00s.
You can’t spend decades celebrating someone for being controversial, offensive and unapologetic, only to suddenly clutch your pearls when he does something that offends your particular sensibilities.
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u/rusty_shackleford34 58m ago
I’m trying to think whether or not these two celebrities coming together and making music affects my life in absolutely any way at all…
Hmm seems it doesn’t. Therefore I don’t care if they hang out.
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u/NoTown3633 4h ago
This is reddit they dont understand what friends are.
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u/RampantHedgehog 3h ago
You don’t understand. Redditors have perfect friends, they have a clean record and have voted purely blue on every issue and are the most empathetic people on this planet.
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u/futzingaround 2h ago
God it must be so nice to be so privileged and so wealthy you can stay friends with the maga conservatives who literally champion the very policies that once created the shit infested abusive upbringing you grew up in the first place. To be so disconnected and ignorant that literal oppressive politic beliefs are put aside for friendship. Fuck this entire country and the society it's built on.
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u/RodJohnsonSays 5h ago
Here’s a real hard fucking pill everyone needs to swallow: “His verse speaks to something we’ve talked about and that really needs to be heard: we differ politically and on other things, but we’ve stayed friends through it all…We hope that sets an example for people who’ve lost friends or stopped talking to family because they think differently.”
If we’re going to find a way to make it through, like it or not, we need to learn to reintegrate with these fucking imbeciles one way or another.
Good on both of them.
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u/MambaSaidKnockYouOut 3h ago
It’s hard to reintegrate with people who seek to divide us.
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u/blaqsupaman 4h ago
Yeah as much as I don't like it, these people aren't going anywhere. Don't get me wrong, I hope they stay far the fuck away from political power in the future but we do still have to share the country with them.
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u/jdanielregan 4h ago
Here’s another hard pill for everyone to suck on: KR’s outspoken bigotry towards trans people is disqualifying from my friendship circle.
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u/fattsmann 4h ago
“In America, friends and families that were tight knit for decades can all of a sudden be dead to each other due to political beliefs. And two absolute complete strangers can all of a sudden feel they are blood-bonded just because of shared political beliefs. What a sad time for friends and family.”
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u/Amockdfw89 ask me about Give it Away 3h ago
Could be worst. I have a friend who is an Iraqi Christian (Assyrian specifically) her family lived in territory that was ISIS held. She said the second they rolled into town her Muslim neighbors basically threw them under the bus by walking around painting crosses and letting ISIS authorities know where the Christians lived. Christians under traditional Islamic rule have to pay special taxes and have other restrictions. These were people they grew up with, celebrated holidays together with, kids played with each other etc.
Sometimes when shit hits the fan people do a 180 and let their differences consume them.
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u/mr_glide 3h ago
No, these imbeciles need to be marginalised, because look what it leads to. You can't deal with bad faith actors. That was the mistake that was made last time
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u/imgrado 4h ago
Gotta remember this is reddit and any opinions not matching theirs 1:1 are instead framed as unforgivable offenses. Thank God the normal world doesn't function that way. Nothing would ever get done and no progress would ever be made
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u/Up_All_Nite 5h ago
Is it ok to be friends with someone who has wildly different opinions? Or should we shun our friends completely? I truly hate KR. I'm not a stan either. I'm definitely not a MAGA.
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u/tatianazr 3h ago
If my friends are racist.. then yes. I would shun them. Not that hard
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u/o_o_o_f 4h ago
I mean, there is a pretty clear difference between maintaining a normal friendship with someone who’s become very political in their professional life, and collaborating professionally with that person.
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u/Ceo-Of-TND 37m ago
My parents are MAGA and like Trump a lot. I hate Trump, but they’re the greatest parents ever. They’ve shown me nothing but love and support. I’m straight, but if I weren’t, I would’ve been 100% comfortable coming out to them.
I’ve had numerous lefty friends (I’m not left wing either) act like they don’t understand why I haven’t cut my parents off because of who they vote for, despite them being great parents and amazing, loving grandparents.
It’s honestly scary seeing some of the people I know in real life cut their parents or other family members off because of who they voted for, despite those family members being genuinely good people who loved and supported them. Some of them even straight up lie and act like they were abused or neglected to justify it.
American politics has become very cult-like. It’s not normal to cut off people who love, support, and took care of you over people who don’t even know you exist.
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u/Ben_dover8201 5h ago
But what about the sand and that line that you drew