r/Music • u/ebradio • 14h ago

article Taylor Swift sparks chart-blocking accusations with new “Patient Zero” alternate versions

https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/taylor-swift/taylor-swift-sparks-chart-blocking-accusations-with-new-patient-zero-alternate-versions
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u/AnAussiebum 14h ago

Charts should just ban alternative versions from being listed. Or give them one remix/deluxe edition, only. If the majority of the album has not changed it just shouldn't be considered.

There, problem solved.

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u/hotlibramess 12h ago edited 9h ago

I agree. multiple variants being sold should not count. Adele didn’t need a hundred variants of her music to sell the amount she sold. She just made good music.

If you rewound it to the times before streaming and everything else, and you took away the multiple variants, TS wouldn’t be breaking records. That’s why it’s disingenuous to compare her to people like Michael Jackson.

ETA: I want people to read what I said. I did not say that Adele did not have variants. I said she didn’t need a whole slew of them. Right now life of a showgirl has like what? 35 variants? Roughly? TTPD had over 30 variants.

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u/ajmkv 12h ago edited 12h ago

I think the worst thing for me is that she WAS having those incredible accolades and achievements before her descent into petty chart manipulation. I already WAS hearing way too much about her in the early 2010s. I remember when Speak Now was released and it was a HUGE deal for an artist like her to achieve a million-plus selling album in one week. Fearless was the album that spent the most weeks at #1 in the whole DECADE. Everything was a hit for her, she was everywhere, she was the nation’s darling.

Success is her worst ally. If she didn’t need to continue these constant empty victories at the expense of everyone else’s time in the spotlight, I think she would still be very, very successful. Not breaking EVERY longstanding record, but still selling healthy amounts as a female performer close to her 40s, and hopefully being more authentic in her writing.

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u/ChosenCharacter 10h ago

At the end of the day, she's just a petty little person that was bullied in school and has carried that chip on her shoulder through adulthood, and now that she finally has the opportunity to be the bully herself, she's embracing it 100%. And it's been like that ever since Bad Blood where she literally threatened another singer and nobody (or not enough) said "yea maybe she is the bad guy."

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u/Chaavva 9h ago edited 8h ago

that was bullied in high school

Nah, she was the bully.

And that's according to her own words.

Just because some other kids probably found your average rich mean girl insufferable doesn't mean she was bullied or unpopular.

Actual bullied kids don't go around town in their Hummer harassing people with their friends. And then laugh about it on camera.

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u/OneUpAndOneDown 8h ago

Ok that link doesn’t make that point.

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u/Chaavva 8h ago

How so?

"You know what we haven't done in a while? Driven around with the top down and harassed people."

Her own words that she says to her "extremely supportive" friends to great laughter.

She was in no way a social outcast and all of the footage of her in school only shows what bs that narrative about her being supposedly bullied and unpopular is.

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u/Road_Whorrior 8h ago

Well, her fans were the preps picking on the emo kids in my high school experience, so the apples fell straight down.

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u/ChosenCharacter 8h ago

I heard she was bullied in middle school, took off in high school

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u/Fractal-Infinity 5h ago

Making a joke =/= actually bullying people. Are you telling me you never talked shit when you were at school? Be for real. Post actual proof that she bullied people, not some school banter. You're really grasping at straws.

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u/Fractal-Infinity 5h ago

Exactly. These TS haters are making some wild claims but post false proofs. That says everything about the quality of their arguments and their not so hidden hate agenda.

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u/ChosenCharacter 5h ago

Bro nobody woke up wanting to hate on TS she just gives us increasingly fewer reasons to like her. We don’t fundamentally care about her and we just want her to go away. This whole thread is because she’s fucking with the charts. Like. That’s her choice.

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u/LadySnarfblat 9h ago

People who went to high school with her have said she actually was a popular rich girl and a bully in high school. So it’s just always who she’s been.

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u/hotlibramess 10h ago

Yep and it’s still happening. The lyrics to “father figure” in her latest album are a great example.

People want to paint me with a broad brush as a simple taylor hater and it’s not that. I used to be a fan. I own most of her albums.

I stopped being a fan because of compounded issues that resulted in me realizing that not only is her character questionable, the music she’s been putting out is mediocre at best.

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u/tswiftdeepcuts 9h ago

father figure is about scott borchetta. you know the guy who owns a jag and has a scotch brand? her former label owner? who she in her own words saw as a second father figure?

seems a fan would click that easily

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u/Remarkable-Tap7139 5h ago

I also feel it's about Scott Borchetta. Unfortunately and ironcially Taylor becomes 'father figure' to the other female pop singers now.

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u/The_Thane_Of_Cawdor 8h ago

I mean she’s like Michael Jordon, she has to win even at the expense of looking shallow and petty

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u/Fractal-Infinity 5h ago

Is this the gathering of Taylor haters, ffs? You're talking nonsense about an artist you barely know about. She is petty for playing her cards at her best ability (doing her popstar job) and standing up for herself? Do you hear yourself talking?