r/NBA_Draft • • 2d ago

I’m concerned about AJ’s shooting

His 3 point shooting has been TERRIBLE, his jumper is terrible. He’s like 2/20 since Summer League. Was it this bad in college? I find it hard to believe such a glaring weakness was overlooked when taking him with the 1st overall pick.

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u/Joshottas 2d ago

He does so many other things well. He’ll put in work and be fine. Anthony Edwards had much worse splits and now he’s an efficient shooter on high volume. No one is worried or concerned about a guy who has 3 preseason games under his belt.

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u/Christian_Bale23 2d ago

I mean Anthony Edward’s is a high outlier.

AJ will most likely will be an average shooter at his peak and a inefficient shooter for most of his career

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u/AyAySlim Wizards 2d ago

And that’s absolutely fine. If he is elite at getting to and finishing around the rim then he never needs to be anything better than around average

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u/MyTeamsSuck99 2d ago

It’s fine, it’s just the difference between him being an mvp winner and an all nba guy. Those margins matter a lot. 

Everyone know dybantsa will be at worst an all star, it’s just how high he goes. 

It’s the same question for Flagg imo, if he can’t consistently shoot his mvp ceiling is diminished. 

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u/AppointmentItchy5119 2d ago

giannis?

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u/MyTeamsSuck99 2d ago

He doesn’t have the physical profile of Giannis. 

Giannis is a true 7 foot , 7-3/4 wingspan guy. 

AJ is 6’8-6’9 7 foot wingspan. Hes more similar to a LeBron or Ben Simmons than a Giannis physically. 

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u/Youngcheeese 2d ago

Dpoy,elite rebounding and better playmaking would be the difference

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u/AppointmentItchy5119 2d ago

no 3pt shot would be the similarity everyone is talking about here are u dumb

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u/Youngcheeese 2d ago

Yeah my point was he was able to make up for the lack of the shot because he has so many other things he is elite in.

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u/IcyAuthor1 1d ago

He needs a shot or at best he would be like Ben Simmons before his back problems

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u/AppointmentItchy5119 2d ago

thats what is being auggested here abt AJ no?

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u/aflickering 1d ago

...except AJ will not be DPOY or as good at rebounding or playmaking, which is the point of the comment you replied to

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u/No-Fee-2174 2d ago

Giannis

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u/BlueHundred 2d ago

That's fine though. Also, Flagg was averaging like 25% from deep for the first half of his rookie season. Started getting better as the season went on. I'm not too worried about AJ's struggles from deep so far

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u/Joshottas 2d ago

With his tools and work-ethic, No reason AJ can’t be either.

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u/salamanderman10 2d ago

AJ had the best mid range jumper in college basketball last year. People act like hwas not threat outside of the paint.

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u/Repulsive-Award9483 2d ago

Believe or not BYU was AJ's first year of being efficient in the midrange. he shot 35% on midrange pullups in hs but he was around 32% from 3 at utah prep on a decent number of attempts

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u/salamanderman10 2d ago

Those are solid numbers for a high schooler.

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u/Repulsive-Award9483 2d ago edited 2d ago

From midrange? Its not good for a prospect of his caliber but from 3 on a decent amount of attempts that isn't terrible but it isn't good either

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u/36everyday 3h ago

NBA defense vs HS defense is like saying the 3 acre soccer field in the inner city is the same thing as Glacier National Park

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u/InTheMorning_Nightss 2d ago

He'll be a good player regardless of his shot, but I think people focus on the success cases and ignore the countless counter examples of a player becoming a good 3 point shooter. Ant becoming THIS good of a shooter is truly one of the greatest shooting growths we've really ever seen. There's no guarantee any prospect gets even close to that.

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u/North_Concern_7266 2d ago

Ant also took a ton from deep range. Similar to Egor and Maxey.

Draftcasual on Twitter figured out that guys with high deep 3pt rates are underlying good shooters. They're just taking really hard ones and clearly have the mechanics to cleanly get into the motion from range.

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u/EducationFiender 14h ago

Thank you i hate when people bring up a super rare outlier to make a point its annoying af

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u/okaypaI 2d ago

I’m really impressed with his playmaking. It’s stood out a lot this preseason.

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u/Repulsive-Award9483 2d ago

Anthony Edwards had good shooting priors tho he didn't just become a good shooter outta nowhere man

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u/Joshottas 2d ago

Look at his splits from UGA.

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u/Repulsive-Award9483 2d ago

Ik thats why I said priors cause his hs splits were actually pretty good on volume

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u/Downtown-Tax-997 1d ago

I won’t even need to look at the numbers cause I was a fan of his game when he got to Georgia ..The guy scored from all over the floor including Beyond the 3.

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u/noknownothing 1d ago

David Robinson grew 6 inches in college so that means everyone will grow 6 inches in college.

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u/Joshottas 1d ago

U thought u cooked with this one. Great job.

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u/Marckennian 1d ago

Damn, dude got burned!! Haha

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u/Downtown-Tax-997 1d ago

Anthony Edwards had a jumper before he got into the league tho

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u/Piranha-Kassapa 2d ago

It was baked in. This is why there was discussion about who the top pick might be instead of him just clearly locking it in.

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u/Coolcat127 2d ago

Yes if he had a good jumper right now he would be on the short list of best prospects of the century. Probably 3rd after LeBron and Wemby genuinely 

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u/killaura123456 2d ago

There was no real discussion from educated people

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u/Knighthonor 1d ago

Yeah there was. Just anything like that got shot down here and on the Wizards sub.

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u/gdk_dinkleberg 23h ago

Yeah everyone educated just had boozer easily 1

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u/Rafael_Doge-Schmutz 2d ago edited 2d ago

the short answer is it's not really concerning.

the longer answer: it's a lot easier to get in a shooting rhythm when the offense is built around you, way more shots and AJ in particular gets to the line so much to help with that rhythm. not only is it always gonna be harder in the NBA, but he's in a unique spot as a #1 pick where he's at most a distant 3rd option. and probably most pertinent to the question, he's reportedly working on retooling his mechanics entirely. which supports what we already knew about him coming in: he wasn't a great shooter to begin with. the learning curve was gonna be sharp without overhauling the mechanics, and it'll probably be some time before we see things settle.

but with all that said, he was I think a 77% free throw shooter in college? he's 10/17 from the stripe in three games so far, 59%. that's the concern for me. I'm pretty sure it was much better in summer league so I'm not worried yet, and it's still so early. but if that doesn't stabilize we'll have a problem.

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u/GGdpcGaming 2d ago

Maybe its just me but I always thought of him as an elite downhill driving forward and that the shot would be a nice cherry on top. It would surely limit his upside if it sucks but he'll also still be fine if it does.

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u/rayquan36 2d ago

They're trying to fix his jumper and say it's a 2 year process.

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u/rayquan36 2d ago

Houston has a good one. He fixed Kawhi.

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u/1kennet 2d ago

Not even the only person most of these players work with

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u/Cassandrae_Gemini 2d ago

its always so hilarious to me when people who dont watch college ball at all freak the fuck out after a few weeks of nba play.

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u/noknownothing 2d ago edited 2d ago

5 months ago someone posted this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/s/yXazk8WrQ1

Some concerns in the comments section, including this downvoted gem:

noknownothing • 155d
Whoa! He's not missing like it's short/ long in n out. He's bricking like his shot's broken.

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u/Youngcheeese 2d ago

People getting offended by anyone even mentioning the fact he hasnt shot it well is very telling

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u/OwnYourChildren 2d ago

Classic Reddit. Sucks when having good draft debate requires tolerance for skepticism.

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u/Knighthonor 1d ago

Were you on the Wizard's sub? Because that was an experience. I just left to talk about other prospects for other teams for that reason

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u/North_Concern_7266 2d ago

He has a clunky two motion shot. Good for mid range. Not good for 3pt shooting.

It's highly likely he's just a bad shooter.

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u/According-Witness-80 2d ago

Rookies always struggle with three point shooting right out the gate. It’s definitely gonna be a project but once he gets more comfortable against an nba defense I’m sure it’ll look better. He hasn’t really been taking many of the middys he would be taking in college as well which probably helped him get into a good shooting rhythm.

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u/salamanderman10 2d ago

good lord, people are so obsessed with wanting his jumper to be terrible.

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u/okaypaI 2d ago

Do you see a future superstar in him with that jumper?

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u/-Johnny_Utah- Wizards 2d ago

Young players fix their shot all the time. AJ has innate talents that you can’t teach/fix.

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u/Youngcheeese 2d ago

Young players also never develop one and have problems caused by it way more than they fix it

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u/zbites 24m ago

No I just think all of the GMs in the most loaded draft in ages thought he should be first overall because they don’t believe in him

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u/hardenoverjordan 2d ago

Do you realize he shot like 50 percent from mid range in college? You know how hard it is to do that? His 3 needs work but I’m confident he will be elite from the middy at some point

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u/North_Concern_7266 2d ago

He's a two motion shooter. There's a reason DeRozan can't shoot 3s despite being automatic from middy.

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u/YakFull8300 Jazz 1d ago

So was Bird and he's one of the greatest shooters of all time.

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u/North_Concern_7266 1d ago

Ok. But he's not Larry Legend.

The good 3pt shooters with two motion shots are all time "touch" guys like Larry and Kd. AJ has good touch, but it's not elite enough to overcome wonky mechanics IMO

I think he can probably be better at spot ups, but I don't see pull ups in the future

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u/RayKitsune313 2d ago

Is Giannis a star?

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u/YakFull8300 Jazz 2d ago

obviously

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u/Power-Fantastic Wizards 2d ago

Bruh he’s 19 and hasn’t played a game in the nba yet. Look up Jason Kidd and his shot early in his career.

Better to get his feet wet in the league and then tinker with the shot after his 1st year.

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u/laz191 2d ago

Recently in practice he’s been seen shooting with a higher / better arc. His shot is flat right now and is a reason why it’s short when he takes 3s.

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u/cheesebabychair Wizards 2d ago

He's 19, good Lord, relax

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u/North_Concern_7266 2d ago

Shooting is pretty innate. If your form is a little janky to begin with (AJ's is), it's usually over.

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u/ShotgunStyles 2d ago

He was good in the midrange so that's why execs are optimistic that he could develop the 3-ball. It was not ignored.

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u/FFTactics 2d ago

He shot 33% from 3 in college, which alleviated a lot of concern.

There should have been more scrutiny if his shot will work in off the dribble situations, since he’ll be a primary on the ball guy.

But take into account Peterson was scouted #1, AJ only moved up due to how little Peterson played.

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u/RayKitsune313 2d ago

I mean Peterson only just jumped AJ in Hs rankings based on the latter half of their senior year. AJ was number one for years before that

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u/Repulsive-Award9483 2d ago edited 1d ago

Aj was number 1 in the 2026 class for years before he reclassed up not 2025. Boozer was actually #1 and Coop was #2 Koa was over DP at 3 in 2022 when the rankings first dropped then DP just kept slowly rising

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u/Professional-Doubt14 2d ago

It is interesting that Wilson seems to have developed a comfortable NBA range shot much faster than AJ.

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u/Rafael_Doge-Schmutz 2d ago

that's got a little more to do with Caleb not taking any outside shots at all, we just didn't have a sample size to work with. and fwiw, it's still a small sample size, in four preseason games he's 7/24 (29%) from three and 10/18 (56%) from the stripe. I'm a huge (and biased Carolina) fan but so far all we've actually seen is a willingness to take those shots

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u/HavoK76 2d ago

He’ll be alright. He’s a rookie ffs. That jumper will eventually come.

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u/Wavepops 2d ago

To be expected. He has the type of jump shot that’s good for middies but needs refinement into a one shot motion for threes

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u/rueiraV Wizards 2d ago

You should be. I can’t imagine why a person, assuming they cared at all, wouldn’t be at least concerned. We’ve seen this movie before where a player is mostly great only for their lack of a shot to lessen their impact

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u/gnalon 2d ago

A) Rome wasn’t built in a day, it was clearly not gonna be a year 1 thing when guys like Trae and KD were sub 30% as rookies. The extra distance and how much harder you have to work for those looks (when you’re athletic as Dybantsa in high school/college defenses are begging you to take threes) are no joke

B) I don’t know what you really could’ve expected, I had him 3rd and thought his upside was more of a Giannis lite where he’s not gonna be an all-time finisher/transition threat but have more of a midrange game. If he is the midpoint of RJ Barrett and Giannis that’s good enough to be a star, and I’m sure RJ Barrett was a terrible shooter as a rookie as well.

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u/AceK514 Wizards 1d ago

Tbh he will be fine . He’s 687 FTA at 79.6% Pre-NBA per Synergy (NCAA + HS) and shot high 40’s ( 46% per Bart) on non-rim 2’s at BYU. I think the 3 point has never been good in his life but based on his touch, I think he’s going to figure out to be at least an average shooter in his prime.

He has tweaked a bit his shot since college so only time will tell if it’s hurting him more than it is beneficial.

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u/SoSoSlick 1d ago

People want so bad for something to be "concerned" about this kid. First it was his defense which he's come out and shut people up about. Now its his shot, which just about every rookie has to adjust to coming into the NBA. Granted he needs to not be a liability when left open from 3 for sure, but he also doesn't need to be Kon either. Let the dude develop for more than 3 PRE-SEASON games... Good lord....

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u/jwn0323 1d ago

I’m concerned someone is concerned about a preseason sample size personally.

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u/capitalistsanta 1d ago

shooting takes so much time to get good at man. Damian Lillard this summer shot 100,000 made 3s, he’s at the end of his career. If you look in the news, he was trying to get to 10,000 makes a month a couple years back. He has had maybe 5 years of quality basketball shooting training in his life. He also will improve his hand eye coordination 100x over the next decade+. More worried about decision making and body language and coachability. In a couple years, judge his shooting

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u/AlbatrossKey5736 1d ago

He was okay in college. Pre season is pre season. Really not sure what else to say.

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u/sk932123 17h ago

Small sample size. I believe Alex sarr missed EVERY shot in his first summer league.

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u/AyAySlim Wizards 2d ago

Maybe or maybe he’s Giannis who shot like 30 and 25% in the years he won MVP

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u/Youngcheeese 2d ago

He would need DPOY level defense, better playmaking and elite rebounding as well as shooting better to be giannis

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u/solidsteppa6 2d ago

Check out what Giannisstarted his career as.

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u/siwelis10304 2d ago

Not concerned at all at this stage because he's 6'9" with a handle, excellent athleticism and knows to penetrate or pass.

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u/ThatDudeWay 2d ago

He's 19. Has Trae around leading the charge and will 💯 get AJ easier shots his rookie year. Jump shot isn't a problem at all.

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u/JayyyyyBoogie 2d ago

Shooting can be taught, so if he puts the time in and works on it he can at least be competent.

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u/Accomplished-Habit38 2d ago

Its very unlikely he ever becomes a high high end 3pt shooter based on his profile, but like others said that was baked in. He really doesnt need to be that when the much more important part of the game for him will be defensive disruption/rebounding and general positioning on that end for a young player to not fall into the jaylen brown (popular comp) school of off ball defense. Trae is gonna be there for years. Tre johnson is gonna be there for years. Kyshawn is gonna be there to shoot. Its not his job

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u/Michael-of 1d ago

AJ had bust written all over him. I actually think if he works on his game he’ll be fine but it’s not gonna come for another few years. Caleb Wilson has immediate star vibes.

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u/chaide123 Bulls 2d ago

Most college players need years to develop nba shooting. Tougher defenses, more physical play and far 3 pt line. Neither AJ or Peterson were great shooters. Both are struggling

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u/Lopsided_Ad3341 3h ago

He's gonna be a great mid range shooter

3 ball is definitely a concern but I think he'll get to atleast average , assuming he learns to take the right 3 pt shot selection

But I very much believe in the mid range, and in his ability to get to his spots to get it off

I've noticed he takes tough shots in summer league and preseason. I think he's embracing just growing his game and knowing there will be growing pains.

But would like to see him have a better shot diet, that's a big reason they're not falling in my opinion