r/Overwatch • u/Rossifan1782 • 19h ago
News & Discussion Won a 4v5, our Hog was just unstoppable
Replay code if you are interested 8F1D9X
I played the Juno in this match.
Our mercy spend most of the match spinning in circles then left then came back, spun in more slow circles, and left again.
They missed a really great game. Our DPS did a great job using the space our Hog provided. And our hog put on a class on cycling his cooldowns using his breather.
I was basically a frantic flying squirrel who tried not to make too many mistakes( I made alot of mistakes). But thankfully my team pulled through in a rather convincing fashion.
I hope our mercy enjoyed the notification of the win.
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u/Solid-Shock3541 19h ago
The Soj demolished tho
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u/Rossifan1782 19h ago
A great job to be sure, but I felt it was enabled by our hogs uptime and space management. Basically gave her some choice sightlines that she very much used to great effect.
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u/Solid-Shock3541 19h ago
Yea as a Soj player I can say the space the tank creates either makes me play like a bronze or a masters
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u/Trelyrien Atlanta Reign 15h ago
I agree so hard on this. And the amount of times I’ve had a bad loss with a horrible tank who botched about dps sucking is astronomical. Is impossible to explain to a tank what a complete lack of spatial control does
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u/yXfg8y7f 14h ago
It’s a doubled edged sword, for a tank to be able to maintain space, dps need to help them by picking off the squishy targets of most value to the tank. If they aren’t, the tank can’t maintain that space…
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u/Solid-Shock3541 15h ago edited 5h ago
Yeah I'd be doing terribly because tank isn't fulfilling his role at all and can't even say anything because when I do I end up getting flames BY THEM. Ngl recently game has been horrible, I get such brain damaged teammates it hurts my brain and the amount of tilt makes ME the brain damaged teammates that others get
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u/yXfg8y7f 14h ago
Out of interest, my experience is that matchmaking is very bad when playing at certain times of the day, outside of these hours I get much better teams that have more than 0 awareness
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u/Thermogenic Doomfist 19h ago
Seriously, Sojourn carried that game. The DPS gap (including Reaper) was massive.
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u/raining_phire 13h ago
Why are you dunking on a reaper who matched enemy deaths. He has to play closer to get value and they are at a disadvantage. I think reaper played their role and got value. Theres ZERO chance they would've won if he didnt
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u/Thermogenic Doomfist 1h ago
I didn’t mean that to read as a dunk on reaper. I meant the Sojourn + Reaper dps gapped the. Maybe I need AI to write for me for clarity haha.
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u/Life_Parsley504 Orisa Dicks Me Down Daily 14h ago
enemy shion was on your team lol
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u/Rossifan1782 11h ago
Shion definitely had a rough time of it. At one point I dodged her coming in hot and we ended up trading pot shots at absurd ranges with the robot between us because she didn't want to push up after the wiff and I was holding till my team came back.
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u/ImWatermelonelyy i like balls 12h ago
Shion into hog as well. I just refuse to believe that was fun
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u/Youre_worthless_to_e 9h ago
Wait is captain ult charge from half the map a counter to shion? Dash makes baiting hook easy
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u/ImWatermelonelyy i like balls 9h ago
He basically makes it impossible to ever use her ult and can easily hook her out of bike because of how big it makes her hitbox
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u/Youre_worthless_to_e 8h ago edited 14m ago
I’m not gonna lie, her ult gets me killed half the time anyway, idk why, she first came out id get a few kills with it (3-5), now no matter how I play it I die, or it’s wasted, or if I’m lucky it’s one or two.
Hog shouldn’t have the option to hook you on bike, engage with it, and if he’s getting you stop jumping just send it on the ground, bait hook with the dash and overhealth, ideally be by a health pack if you misplay it but this is more advice to learn how to do it in case you can’t get the cooldowns right, and then bike should be done to leave before hook is, and send it at them as you fly away
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u/Jamesmoltres 16h ago
Juno: Muwahahahahahahahahaha!
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u/PineapplePrice2636 15h ago
oh i heard an enemy jump spam this voice line one day and it was hilarious
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u/VoiceComfortable5737 19h ago
if only more hogs knew how to play like that, most just feed all game
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u/Over_Comparison_7616 14h ago
dude I love these kinda posts, one time I was owning so hard my support typed "Sorry our sigma was just thanos this game"
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u/JusticeDrago Master Moira Bap Soldier 19h ago
Wonder what game mode it was, that also matters in a 4v5, either way good job.
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u/MysticalTh0r 19h ago
I’m guessing Ana was banned?
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u/jowelost 18h ago
You’d be shocked how many support players take it as a personal insult when you ask them to go Ana/Zen when a Hog or Mauga is running the lobby
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u/ImWatermelonelyy i like balls 12h ago
You’re funny if you think any rank below masters or GM is actually asking you to play Zenyatta
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u/lobster_liberator 9h ago
Was gonna say I have been playing Zen for years and when I read that I thought it was finally my time to be requested for once
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u/ImWatermelonelyy i like balls 9h ago
Nah. I’ve had people ask me to swap OFF Zen into hog players before. Mfs don’t want to realize they prefer a healer that can shove a hand up their ass to keep them upright over a support who can help duke it out
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u/Zadecyst 18h ago
I mean legit your team just out-statted the enemy. Your Soj and Hog alone had more damage, not to mention elims, than the other team's 2 DPSs and Tank. You, as a sole Support, did almost the same healing both their Supps did combined.
Crazy team. With the sole exception of that Reaper, of course. Don't know what he was doing...vibing, I guess.
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u/VenusAmari 16h ago
If I had to guess Reaper was cutting off angles and cleaning up kills. The kind of thing that doesn't really show up well on the scoreboard but is instrumental in being able to pull off wins like this
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u/MrBlowinLoadz Damage 15h ago
Yeah he could've been flanking and because of that he will die more. But if he managed to make good plays that disrupt the enemy team then it's all good. Those are the kinda of plays that don't show up on the scoreboard and lead to team fight wins for your team. One of the many reasons why the scoreboard doesn't mean much on its own.
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u/Fast-Artichoke-408 13h ago
Stats ain't everything, the often misrepresent wins or losses bc x person had more damage or more healing does NOT = better.
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u/Chegg_F 3h ago
This scoreboard is doing a really good example of showing how stats are misleading. Both teams have almost identical damage (35.4k vs 33.3k), but one team has twice as many kills as the other. One team was killing people, and the other team was presumably shooting at Roadhog a lot. You don't even need to look at the match to see that these stats are bad info: the stats are showing that the stats are bad info.
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u/Chegg_F 3h ago
I mean legit your team just out-statted the enemy.
Both teams have almost identical damage. 35,426 vs 33,304. The big difference is kills, where his team had 46 kills and the enemy team only had 23. Although we can't see how many kills they got on the Mercy, so they might have more than 23 kills.
The stats are showing a really good example of how looking at stats sucks. Both teams have the same damage, but one team has twice as many kills. Damage is a worthless stat. His team killed people, the enemy team presumably shot at Roadhog a lot.
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u/Fast-Artichoke-408 13h ago
Stats ain't everything, the often misrepresent wins or losses bc x person had more damage or more healing does NOT = better.
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u/Zadecyst 13h ago
I know stats aren't EVERYTHING, but they are certainly SOMETHING, and in such a case alike this, being a member down, the stat disparity is stark.
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u/gabiblack 19h ago
Did your reaper think he was playing widow?
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u/PhatmanScoop64 Ashe 19h ago
All a high damage metric indicates is that the people you’ve shot at didn’t die. Lowish damage and high elims is where the best dps players sit
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u/Ellogan66 19h ago
Or they're landing 1 pellet on Sojourn's kills, impossible to tell from just a leaderboard
Edit: Just seen that OP included a replay code, I will investigate to see which it is
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u/gabiblack 19h ago
Ahah that's the most gold thing i've ever heard. You realize that having that many elims but half the dmg of your team mates means that he was poking from afar and doing nothing? You know how eliminations count? You can do 1 dmg to an enemy and your team mate does 249 and you will get an elimination too. Sure having a lot of dmg but no eliminations is also bad, but it should be balanced.
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u/AntakeeMunOlla 18h ago
A flanker doesn't need to be doing top damage to be useful. Sometimes it's enough that one does enough to be a threat from the sides so that enemies have more limited possibilities for positioning. After all, a big part of OW is just applying and dealing with pressure. I haven't watched the replay but I bet it played a decent part on allowing hog and soj to shine.
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u/Youre_worthless_to_e 9h ago
If you’re shion, shoot him. In the Face. If he’s blocking you can dash or bike behind or force him to turn so your team can shoot him.
If you’re emre shoot him in the face then when he blocks wait till the end and stick your grenades to him.
Support mizuki. Tbag him so he hard focuses you but just use katashiro to bait his ass like a bull into wasting punches, then chain him after he blocks so he has to cry and live at your mercy
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u/Msmart89 6h ago
I see people post replay codes where would I be able to watch these please?
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u/Rossifan1782 3h ago
If you go into your career profile and find replays you can import a replay and that will let you watch.
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u/Greenhound386 5h ago
So you had the MM93 of Hogs?*
*We'll see if I am interpreting your username accurately.
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u/Possible-One-6101 Wrecking Ball 19h ago
Hog... Mauga... even Domina now...
If an enemy team doesn't understand how synergy and coordination work in Overwatch... it's over, even in 4v5.
I'm thinking of a particular friend who is notorious for just pumping those heroes, and then referencing his stats.
If you aren't in on the timing and target prioritization game at the team level... a smart hog is unkillable.
Congrats on the 4-5. It was earned. They all are.