r/Paranormal • u/Loretta7299 • 10h ago

Question What is the relationship of belief to the liminal world?

If entities create physical manifestations what is the relationship of human belief to those manifestations?

Where does the line shift between real and human belief? And also beliefs of a whole group?

Did we create them or are they co created or just objectively there? Do they depend on our belief?

Is it a spectrum in between those things?

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u/Jack_Shid Paranormal Researcher 6h ago

Where is the proof that entities create physical manifestations?

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u/Loretta7299 4h ago edited 4h ago

Oh well considering you are a paranormal researcher I assume you must have a reason for rejecting the ufo/uap research on that?

I’ve seen plasma looking blobs myself. They flew outside of my window in 2015 (for three months) and then it never happened again.

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u/NinjaGrrl42 7h ago

I've wondered similar things. People who expect haunting to be terrifying get scary ghosts. I get calm ones, not expecting any issues.

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u/Loretta7299 4h ago edited 4h ago

Yes I only had one experience with a ghost when I was at university . The landlord was hoovering and then the doorbell went off like mad ringing and ringing and ringing. I think first I went to answer and no one was there. The landlord then told me matter of factly that his ghost didn’t like the hoovering so it did that!

I wasn’t scared. I found it fun at the time. I looked outside everywhere. No one was anywhere near and we were sort of in the nearby countryside neighbourhood it wasn’t a city or apartment

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u/NinjaGrrl42 4h ago

I've never found our spectral visitors scary, either. People laugh at me because my response to them is ask them to stay out of the bedroom and don't scare the cat.

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u/Loretta7299 31m ago

Not scaring the cats is most important of all!

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u/jackelesei 10h ago

Sounds like you’re talking about tulpas.

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u/Loretta7299 7h ago

Do you think UAPs could be tulpas? It’s mind bogglingly confusing for sure.

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u/Loretta7299 7h ago

Yes that’s interesting Thankyou

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u/Loretta7299 7h ago

One thing I find interesting is that Annie Besant speaks about thought forms and tulpas but her group were known to have been deceived by voices they were hearing.
I’m wondering if humans don’t realise the extent to which it happens.
Maybe we are deceiving ourselves because of the thought forms.